Talk:Women in the Arab Spring

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Ideas for Modification and Adding a New Section[edit]

“Other Arab countries experienced protests as well..” (1st paragraph, last sentence)

  • Elaborate on which other countries and how effective their protests were.

“Women's involvement in the Arab Spring went beyond direct participation in the protests to include leading and organizing protests and cyber activism.” (2nd paragraph, 1st sentence)

  • Find information on any campaigns or if they created unions/organizations.
  • How were they funded and with what techniques?
  • What were the struggles as well as the support faced/given?

“In a 2012 World Bank Report, they highlighted how greater access to economic resources can increase women’s agency. As the economies of countries in the MENA region have suffered, slowing due to the Arab Spring, then so could the advancement of women's rights.” (last paragraph, second to last sentence)

  • Last sentence to wikipedia page is five years in the past. We can update it with more information and end with a relevant statement.

Potential new section: Recovery from Conflict

  • Emotional & physical recovery

Bibliography:

Abdelzaher, Dina, et al. "Recovering from Conflict and Uncertainty Post Arab Spring." International Journal of Conflict Management (Emerald), vol. 28, no. 2, Apr. 2017, pp. 222-244. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1108/IJCMA-02-2016-0005.

Al-Sowaidi, Belqes, et al. "Doing Politics in the Recent Arab Uprisings: Towards a Political Discourse Analysis of the Arab Spring Slogans." Journal of Asian & African Studies (Sage Publications, Ltd.), vol. 52, no. 5, Aug. 2017, pp. 621-645. EBSCOhost, doi:10.1177/0021909615600462. Daisygmendez (talk) 22:22, 3 October 2017

Starting the article[edit]

I've posted the first part of this new article as part of my Poverty, Gender and Human Development course at Rice University and I would appreciate any feedback on my work thus far. As you can see, I haven't written the "After the protests" section. I will post it soon, hopefully within the next week.

I would really appreciate any feedback, particularly about whether I'm missing any important aspects of the topic or have any misleading/inaccurate information. I would also appreciate any information about the role women have played in Syria- that is the country about which I found the least female-specific information. Thanks! Nadhika99 (talk) 18:22, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, does anyone have suggestions for an infobox I could use? I prefer articles that have them, but I can't find an appropriate template for this subject and I'm not sure what information would be best to include if I make my own template. Thanks! Nadhika99 (talk) 18:26, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You might be able to use {{Infobox news event}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:08, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
With that infobox it seems like using general Arab Spring information would make more sense than using information specific to women because there aren't female casualty breakdowns or anything. Do you think that would be strange? Nadhika99 (talk) 03:38, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic Wikipedia[edit]

After spending this morning trudging through Arabic Wikipedia on my slow Internet connection, I have become convinced that there is very little of value there. There is no specific article for women in the Arab Spring, and even some of the heroines listed here only have articles about them on English Wikipedia, not the Wikipedia of their native language. In all cases, articles were either much less substantial in the Arabic versions or simply non-existent. Having used and edited Arabic Wikipedia myself, I can only say that this isn't surprising at all; I'll stop here to avoid going on a rant. Unless I really missed something, we need to continue relying on English language media only; there's very little on the Arabic language, unfortunately. MezzoMezzo (talk) 12:09, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments & Suggestions[edit]

Nadhika99, “Women in the Arab Spring” is very well done. I have thoroughly enjoyed learning more about the issue while reading this article.

I have just a few comments and advice for further edits:

  • The lead section needs citations.
  • Perhaps you could further divide information by country or region under 1. Background and 2. Women in the protests? You mentioned that one earlier critique was that the information from the different countries was mixed together in a confusing way; maybe dividing it would prevent that. For instance, I especially like how the section 4. Female leaders and activists is organized—very clearly and to the point.
  • I feel that section 5. After the protests could be further elaborated on. Have any governments acted on these protests? What other consequences have occurred for politically active women in the Arab world?
  • A few of the women listed as female leaders and activists are noted as bloggers. Therefore I think it would be appropriate to include an External links section that links to their blogs for further reading on the subject.

The article is overall very well thought-out and definitely a much needed contribution to Wikipedia. Excellent job so far!

JoyceChou (talk) 13:50, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

JoyceChou, thanks for your feedback! I will add citations to the information in the lead section that is not currently repeated in the rest of the section; as far as I know, I don't need to cite information that has citations later on. I will split up the Background section by topic (Education, Role of Islam, etc.) to make it clearer. I like your suggestion to split up the Women in the protests section by region (Middle East & North Africa) because unless I can find more detailed information on each specific country, I don't think there's enough to split it up by country. I definitely want to finish the After the protests section, but I don't think I'll be able to do it this semester. I'm hoping to finish it over the summer since I have a lot of information for it, it's just that sorting through the information and adding in the constant changes takes too much time for now. I love your suggestion for the External links section! I will add links to their blogs and Twitters or at least organizations with which they work. Nadhika99 (talk) 22:40, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I plan to add several new pieces of information to the "After the protests" section. I am linking a copy of my plan here. If there are any suggestions for things I would need to add or change, please let me know.BlueWaterloo72 (talk) 01:46, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

More Comments![edit]

Nadhika99, great job so far! I think you've done a fantastic job with this article. Here are a few of my comments and suggestions:

  • I agree with JoyceChou in that you should probably break up the "Background" section, as I feel as though there is currently too much text for one section. Rather than creating new subsections based on country or region, I would suggest you splitting it up into Eduction, Health, Religion (or Islam), and Rights. It would make the section considerably more readable.
  • I also think that the "After the protests" section should be expanded. I realize that the movement is still very recent and in some cases ongoing, but there may be some interesting information out there!
  • There are a few places where your citations are a bit unclear. It is often okay to have a lead section with no citations, but only if the material is references later in the article. If you have information that is not discussed later, such as the Syrian civil war, you should cite it. Additionally, some paragraphs (such as the second paragraph in "Cyberactivism and social media") have one citation at the beginning and a different at the end. You should make it clear which source the information in the middle belongs too.
  • In response to your concern about the background and the confusion of multiple countries, I think the article is fine! I feel like I got a strong background of the Arab Spring and was able to distinguish between countries when necessary.
  • Are there any sort of data on the numbers or statistics of the women who participated in the protests? I would be interested in that information.

Overall, fantastic work! Congratulations on the "Did you know" hook as well! Twoods158 (talk) 01:55, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Twoods158, thanks for your feedback! I like your recommendation of breaking up the Background section by topic since that's the organization I was going for. I will clarify the topics by making them subsections. I definitely want to finish the After the protests section, but I don't think I'll be able to do it this semester. I'm hoping to finish it over the summer since I have a lot of information for it, it's just that sorting through the information and adding in the constant changes takes too much time for now. I will clarify the citations for the Syrian civil war information in the lead and the Cyberactivism section. Unfortunately, I have not found numbers of women who participated in the protests or even were arrested. If I find that information I will be sure to add it. Nadhika99 (talk) 22:40, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to announce that I put some information under the "After the protests" section, adding on to the Saudi Arabian women topic. If you all had any more to add or some tips on what else would need some editing, I would definitely appreciate it and am willing to help.BlueWaterloo72 (talk) 01:16, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have made some grammatical changes that included adding commas, taking out some unnecessary words, and capitalizing words that were not already so. BlueWaterloo72 (talk) 03:52, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Possible Additions[edit]

This article is missing some key "Female Activists and Leaders" who were involved. I would expand on influential women in Yemen and Libya since there are only one or two women mentioned in these categories, as well as rights in Morocco and Egypt. Also, I would expand on these other countries and their protests in which women were leaders. Talking about government backlash against the women, or other struggles as well as the support behind being a female activist on this topic.

Here are some reliable sources I will be utilizing to make these additions possible. Bibliography:

Ãakmak, Cenap. The Arab Spring, Civil Society, and Innovative Activism. Palgrave Macmillan, 2017.

Arbatli, Ekim, and Dina Rosenberg. Non-Western Social Movements and Participatory Democracy: Protest in the Age of Transnationalism. Springer International Publishing, 2017.

Olimat, Muhamad. Handbook of Arab Women and Arab Spring: Challenges and Opportunities. Routledge, 2014.

Terir (talk) 22:30, 3 October 2017 (UTC)terir[reply]

Sounds like a great plan here! Wish I could have seen something written out already in this first draft, as well as more resources cited, but this is a good start. Jarzofjam (talk) 06:05, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This page has obviously had a lot of time and work put into it. Amazing job! However, here are a few of my suggestions within "Female Leaders and Activists: -Citations needed for Nazeeha Saeed -Citation needed for Nedal Alsalman -Link Nabeel Rajab -Rework wording in Aliaa Magda Elmahdy case to make it flow better (especially last two sentences). Overall, this work seems to be really solid, well researched and lacks bias and fringe views. Cassitymega (talk) 18:32, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Additions to Article[edit]

Hello Wiki Friends, Possible information that can be added under Salwa Bugaighis is about her death and why it happend. Salwa Bugaighis - Passed at age 50 on June 25, 2014. She was attached in her home (Benghazi) by an unknown attacker. She was a supporter in the 2011 Libyan uprising against the four-decade rule of Muammar al-Qaddaffi which later led to the death of Qaddafi. Bugaighis was involved with the National Transitional Council.

Bibliography: "Salwa Bugaighis." Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, vol. 33, no. 6, Sept. 2014, p. 77. EBSCOhost, search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=f5h&AN=97444027&site=eds-live.

Add Section: After the protests On the last line it states that the Saudi Arabia government is how allowing women to have the right to drive as of June 2018.

I would like to include details about what women need to do to be able to drive. Will it be different for men and women? Also what else has happened in 2016-2017. Garc liz (talk) 22:54, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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