Template:Did you know nominations/Avengers (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 21:53, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Avengers (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

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... that the Avengers franchise is the sixth highest-grossing film franchise of all-time at the worldwide box office, grossing over US$7.7 billion with just four films? Source: CBR
- ALT1: ... that after the successful formation of the Avengers in 2012, other film studios announced plans to create their own superhero shared universes including one for the Justice League? Source: LA Times and /Film
- ALT2: ... that a series of attractions at various Disney Parks called Avengers Campus is inspired by the Avengers and set in the MCU multiverse? Source: Marvel and Polygon
- Reviewed: List of Green Bay Packers to win a most valuable player award

Improved to Good Article status by ZooBlazer (talk) and Dcdiehardfan (talk). Nominated by ZooBlazer (talk) at 02:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Avengers (Marvel Cinematic Universe); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Other problems:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - ?
Interesting: - ?

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Overall the article looks mostly good but there are a couple tweaks needed. It's a recent GA with no apparent copyvio. The plot is a bit long but I don't think it can be cut down much, it's just aa long page. The lede describes them as "Earth's Mightiest Heroes", can we add that to the body of the article so it's supported? The only problem with sourcing I saw is that some of the newsarama links seem to be broken, even the archived versions. Do you think this is fixable? ALT1 doesn't seem to be supported by the LA Times article, which doesn't say that DC is imitating the MCU per se. I'm wondering if there are any more interesting hooks than this though, ALT2 isn't very interesting imo and ALT0 is just box office numbers. BuySomeApples (talk) 05:28, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

@BuySomeApples: What about Alt3 ... that Kevin Feige first envisioned a shared universe featuring the Avengers in the mid-2000's? Source

That's pretty good @ZooBlazer: and we can always have multiple options for the promoter to pick. BuySomeApples (talk) 03:05, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

These might also work:

ALT4 ...that Roger Ebert compared the Avengers to the winners of the Westminster Dog Show? ([1])

ALT5 ...that the success of the Avengers inspired other film studios to try launching their own cinematic universes? ([2]) (Basically ALT1 minus the JL)

ALT6 ...that the Russo brothers spent months lobbying for Spider-Man to meet the Avengers? ([3]) BuySomeApples (talk) 03:05, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

@BuySomeApples: Of those three, I think 5 and 6 work best. So, I guess one of either ALT3, ALT5, or ALT6. If 5 or 6 are used, "the" doesn't need to be part of the wikilink. -- ZooBlazer 03:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Awesome! I'm gonna give the article another look now. BuySomeApples (talk) 03:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

@ZooBlazer: One thing that probably should have been caught in GA review is that the lede still mentions stuff that isn't in the article, like the upcoming films featuring the Avengers. We probably shouldn't call Endgame a "perfect conclusion" in the lede, since that's not necessarily a universally accepted opinion. Instead, we can say it "received praise from critics as a conclusion for that iteration of the team". In "Cultural impact", we should add a source that explicitly says that the DCEU was imitating the MCU (even though it's obvious). BuySomeApples (talk) 03:56, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

I wonder if in AOU we can use different phrasing than "Whedon noted the diversity of the characters," because it might imply a different kind of diversity than is meant here. Maybe something like "the differences between the characters". Also this sentence is hard to understand: "with problems which Whedon 'had on the first one' for strong powers; those powers are superspeed, and spells and telekinesis, respectively, which 'they can do that will help sort of keep it fresh'". BuySomeApples (talk) 03:56, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

@BuySomeApples: I think I addressed everything. -- ZooBlazer 04:32, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I think this is ready now. BuySomeApples (talk) 05:50, 22 January 2024 (UTC)