Template:Did you know nominations/Guardians of the Dawn
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:23, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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Guardians of the Dawn[edit]
- ... that some fighters of the Guardians of the Dawn describe themselves as "mujahideen of the cross"? Source: [1]
- ALT1:... that one of the Guardians of the Dawn's constituent groups originated as "local 'monastery defence' force"? Source: [2]
Created by Applodion (talk). Self-nominated at 01:24, 16 December 2016 (UTC).
Basic eligibility such as length and creation date check out; no plagiarism/copyvios, non-free media is used with appropriate rationale. Hooks are cited, and they both are interesting, though I greatly prefer the first hook. However, the article is cited to only a single source, and it is post on the blog of a reputable academic. There is a talk page discussion regarding this source.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 20:59, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- I have actually found another source which reports about the group, though it is German (a journal issue by the Konrad Adenauer Foundation), and added it to the article. As I said on the talk page, one could probably find a lot more in Arabic, but I cannot speak/read that language. I can only say again that Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi is a very reliable scholar, who works for the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism (see here), and I personally doubt that in the nearer future any English works about this group (which is, after all, a fringe topic) are going to be published. I know that more sources would be better, but as of now, I cannot provide more. If that means the article is unfit for DYK, then regrettably it cannot be changed. Applodion (talk) 22:05, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Sources don't all have to be cited, they need merely exist. Since at least one other source is given here, the concerns about a single source are rectified. In this case, for the hook it doesn't matter that the Al-Tamimi source might be considered self-published (even though it is through another academic's blog), since they are quoting a direct primary source (similar to an interview), and not making a statement of their own.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 22:59, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
