Template:Did you know nominations/Helen Woodrow Bones
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:16, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
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Helen Woodrow Bones[edit]
Helen Woodrow Bones, Woodrow Wilson's cousin and surrogate First Lady
- ... that Helen Woodrow Bones served as Woodrow Wilson's "surrogate First Lady" for 16 months between the death of his first wife and his second marriage? Source
- ALT1:... that Helen Woodrow Bones, Woodrow Wilson's first cousin, became his "surrogate First Lady" for 16 months? Source
- Reviewed: Only my second DYK submission, but I reviewed Brownie (folklore)
5x expanded by TheSavannahRoller (talk) and HouseOfChange (talk). Nominated by HouseOfChange (talk) at 14:51, 26 August 2018 (UTC).
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- The last paragraphs of the "White House years " and "Later life" sections lack citations. - Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - The quotes, especially the second one, are problematic with MOS:QUOTE. The second quote contains much that can be paraphrased to say the same. Try to limit the quotations to sentiments that would be lost by paraphrasing. What Bones did and how popular she was for example can be written as passive text cited to the source instead.
Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - The reliability of the National First Ladies’ Library is unclear. Can you find a more reliable source please?
- Interesting:
| Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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Overall: 
see above. The image on the left of the article should also be moved to the right per Manual of Style. SoWhy 10:19, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: Biographies of people should make use of Template:Infobox person, with the photograph inside it. Flibirigit (talk) 20:13, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
- Many thanks to SoWhy for this painstaking and helpful review. I have shortened quotes and added citations. The National First Ladies Library is a research organization whose scholarly output on their website qualifies as WP:RS, in my opinion, expressed in more detail Talk:Helen_Woodrow_Bones#National_First_Ladies_Library_is_WP:RS here.
- Thanks also to Flibirigit for advice aobut Infobox, advice I also tried to implement. I hope the article is ready for DYK now? You do not mention a hook preference, but I slightly prefer ALT1. HouseOfChange (talk) 04:09, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- HouseOfChange, what typically happens on a DYK review is that once any issues are fixed, the reviewer then approves one or more of the hooks. Since SoWhy is the primary reviewer, it is up to him/her to give the final approval. I'm helping out where I can. Flibirigit (talk) 04:15, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- @HouseOfChange: Actually, the NYT article only confirms that the house it overseen by the NPS, not that the society is). Here's some RS I found that basically say the same: "Wilson's cousin, Helen Woodrow Bones, served as the White House hostess during that time.", [1], [2]. Maybe you can add one of those to the NFLL source to augment it? Rest looks good now. I would prefer ALT1 as well but both check out and the user building the set might want to have a longer hook. Ping me when you are done and I'll checkmark it. Regards SoWhy 07:23, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks again, SoWhy. I added the Mashable source you cite but could not see any text on the two Google books mentioned. Let me know if more is needed before it earns a checkmark.HouseOfChange (talk) 16:24, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- The article is undercategorized. I added a couple, but more should be added. Also, key terms should be wikilinked, there are too few in the article. Flibirigit (talk) 17:02, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
