Template:Did you know nominations/Lake Logan State Park
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:02, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
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Lake Logan State Park[edit]
- ... that Hocking Lake was renamed Lake Logan after Chief Logan of the Mingo Native American tribe....? Source: [1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Interstate 78 in New York
- Comment: Open to any other hooks that could be better
Created by Sixflashphoto (talk). Self-nominated at 21:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC).
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New enough (creation date was May 30, not June 2, but that's still ok, not counting the 2006 false start) and long enough. QPQ done. Earwig found no copyvio, but was unable to pull text from http://parks.ohiodnr.gov/lakelogan to compare, so that doesn't help, and manual checking finds a lot of close paraphrasing that seems problematic to me. E.g. our article "The Hocking River provided water power for sawmills in the area but the region was slow to grow until the opening of the Hocking Canal in 1838, a small branch of the Ohio and Erie Canal." vs the source "The Hocking River provided ... water power for ... sawmills particularly at the falls above Logan. The town of Logan was slow to progress until the opening of the Hocking Canal, a branch of the Ohio-Erie Canal, in 1838." Our article "No less than forty-six furnaces were firing in Ohio's six-county Hanging Rock Iron Region" vs the source "No less than forty-six furnaces were firing in Ohio's six-county Hanging Rock Iron Region." Our article "In 1964, jurisdiction over Lake Logan State Park was transferred to the Division of Parks and Recreation. Lake Logan was originally known as Hocking Lake, until it was re-named Lake Logan to reflect the Indian heritage of the area. The renaming of the lake to Lake Logan also prevented confusion with nearby Hocking Hills State Park and Hocking State Forest." vs the source "until 1964, when jurisdiction was transferred to the Division of Parks and Recreation. Originally known as Hocking Lake, it was re-named Lake Logan to reflect the Indian heritage of the area and to avoid confusion with nearby Hocking Hills State Park and Forest." More than these individual evidences of plagiarism (which are already pretty damning), the whole flow of the article (at least in this part), the ideas and the sequence they are presented, is more or less copied from the source. Wikipedia needs to be written in editors' own words, not copied from other sources with the serial numbers filed off (and I note that although some government sources appear to be copyright-free, this one doesn't). —David Eppstein (talk) 07:39, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein:I've tried to remove anything I think could be considered close paraphrasing from that paragraph. I'm going through every other paragraph myself to make sure the rest was all in my own words as well. I don't know what would be best for things such as lists of animals, fish or plant life. I can't put that in my own words. Should I just remove it all? -- Sixflashphoto (talk) 08:35, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
I would appreciate if someone could take another look at this article. I've tried to address everything issued, as well as double checked all other sources as well. If someone could take another look and give me an opinion I would be very grateful. Thank you, -- Sixflashphoto (talk) 09:51, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are sourced inline and the article is neutral. The Earwig copyvio tool is clear so there are no copyvios as such. However, there has been some close paraphrasing, as mentioned by David Eppstein, but efforts have been made to remove it, and I think the article is largely OK now. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:38, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
