Template:Did you know nominations/List of writers who have returned the Sahitya Akademi Award

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The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 16:48, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nominator

List of writers who have returned the Sahitya Akademi Award[edit]

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Surjit Patar's Sahitya Akademi Award which he returned.

... that Surjit Patar, a Punjabi poet, has returned (pictured) his Sahitya Akademi Award?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Owen Thomas Rouse

Created by Jim Carter (talk). Self-nominated at 11:44, 8 November 2015 (UTC).

Article/list is new enough.(expanded). copyvio unlikely, QPQ done. However, article/list seems to lack WP:NPOV. Image is in public domain and used in article. Lead of the list class article has 2098 characters which is good thing to describe the list, but in so vast explanation there is lack of "other side". There is news coverage regarding "criticism of the award returners", it seems that various well known people have criticized award returners including officials of Government of India. Lead do not mention about those things. So work on NPOV is needed for this article/list.--Human3015^TALK 12:51, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Well, you see, Human3015, this is not an article, this is a list. And the only area where we can add the "other side" is in the lead. However, per WP:LEAD, we can only add a brief summary of all the broad aspects of the topic. Yes, I can see few criticism from well known people, but they are just too superfluous commentary. It shouldn't be added in the lead. FWIW, there is a mention, "Expressing solidarity and condemning the killings of writers, the Sahitya Akademi, admonished the protesters to take back their awards" in the article. Can you point me to a source where officials of Indian Government criticized the award returners? Thanks, Jim Carter 13:52, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Jim, Either it is article or list, no policy stops us from creating content with WP:NPOV, it dotesn't matters it is brief or lengthy. Even if 2-3 lines are written still it should be written with neutral view. That is intergral part of DYK checklist. Current version written like there is "really" "intolerance in India". But we don't know the reality, we should present both views. Finance Minister of India criticised them. Top Indian English writer Chetan Bhagat also criticised them. [1], [2]. National award winning lyricist Prasoon Joshi also critisised them. [3]. There are several sources I can provide, there is enough debate and coverage regarding criticism of award returners which is missing from brief description of the topic.--Human3015^TALK 14:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

No worries, Human3015, I'll be adding some contents from the sources you discovered. Meanwhile, you must note that intolerance in India and such words are inside quotes, and they are directly taken from the immediate inline source. "we should present both views" - note that we can't write anything without sources, and until now, I wasn't aware about this sources. Thanks for understanding, Jim Carter 16:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Questions

Whats so special about Surjit Patar returning the award? Is he the first one? Had he done something noteworthy while returning his award?
Mostly importantly, why do we need a separate list for all these writers and why cant it be mentioned in the parent article? I see that the list is also at FLC. - Vivvt (Talk) 12:17, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Withdraw Currently, I have no time to settle this. Vivvt Make yourself familiarize with WP:SAL. Cheers! Jim Carter 09:21, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Well, it seems that nominator has withdrawn the nomination as he don't have time to work on NPOV related issue of article. Anyway, still I will work on article accordingly to restore NPOV in article. Article is not going to feature on main page, still it doesn't mean that article should not have NPOV. Either it will be on main page or not, it should be written with NPOV if it is on Wikipedia. I will work on it. Regards. --Human3015^TALK 14:12, 24 November 2015 (UTC)