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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:30, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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Martha Hilda González Calderón[edit]

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5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 05:29, 23 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Comment How is this hook interesting? Edwardx (talk) 13:00, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
  • No issues found with article, ready for human review.
    • ✓ This biographical article has been expanded from 250 chars to 2868 chars since 17:25, 19 June 2016 (UTC), a 11.47-fold expansion
    • ✓ This article meets the DYK criteria at 2868 characters
    • ✓ All paragraphs in this article have at least one citation
    • ✓ This article has no outstanding maintenance tags
    • ✓ A copyright violation is unlikely (6.5% confidence; confirm)
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  • I've edited the hook to make it a little more apparent. There aren't many French-educated Mexican deputies. Raymie (t • c) 17:45, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I propose a shorter version (more alternatives welcome), for brevity, and because the English doesn't lead to Paris:
ALT1: ... that Mexican federal deputy Martha Hilda González Calderón received a doctorate from the Paris Dauphine University?
Solid article on few but good sources, Spanish sources accepted AGF. I think the header "early life" promises too much, - do we know anything about her early life? Or change to just "life"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:20, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: I like your alternative, though it probably needs another reviewer now. I also made the suggested header change. Raymie (t • c) 02:43, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
  • This article is new enough and long enough. The ALT1 hook facts are supported by inline citations and the article is neutral. The Spanish language sources make it difficult for me to consider copyright issues. I like the SIL Legislative Information System source that these Mexican politician articles use. It makes the factual data so easy to check. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:27, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I know, right? The now-banned user who did all the old deputy stubs started with the SIL, and it's great. I usually write articles using the SIL as a backbone and then researching to find other information, such as hook facts. Raymie (t • c) 04:42, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I have pulled this from p5 because the article does not mention Paris Dauphine University, and I didn't have time to confirm "University Paris IX" and "Paris Dauphine" are the same. Gatoclass (talk) 16:32, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • @Gatoclass: - I simply clicked the University Paris IX link when I did the hook move and it came up with article "Paris Dauphine University", I took that as being good enough? Alternately the hook coud use the same term as the article to ensure no misunderstandings??  MPJ-DK  16:38, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Clarification - The link in the article, not hook  MPJ-DK  16:39, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for clicking the link MPJ-DK, it shows you are taking your responsibilities as an updater seriously. This is really an issue the original reviewer should have picked up. Gatoclass (talk) 16:46, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Gatoclass, thank you and I agree it should have at least been brought up. Would this modification fall under the copyediting we are allowed to do when moving hooks? We would basically just add the piped name "University Paris IX" to the hook?  MPJ-DK  16:56, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
MPJ-DK, the problem is that there is no source to establish that University Paris IX is the same as Paris Dauphine University. Without that, the hook is unverified, regardless of whether a piped link is used or not. Gatoclass (talk) 17:02, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
You are right, not even mentioned in the university article. Nominator input is needed here. MPJ-DK  17:06, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
@MPJ-DK and Gatoclass: It's missing from the university article and I cannot find a straightforward source about the name change whatsoever, so we're going to go elsewhere. Raymie (t • c) 18:40, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that under the leadership of Martha Hilda González Calderón, the city of Toluca received an award for leading Mexico in budget transparency?
  • @Raymie and Gatoclass: - I can verify the hook and approve the new hook verbiage, all other original review comments still stand. I will not move a hook I approve though, but this should be good to go to whomever is putting preps together.  MPJ-DK  18:51, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
@MPJ-DK: I got an automated notice telling me this nomination wasn't at T:TDYK. Can we put it back on there so it gets picked up by another admin? Raymie (t • c) 22:47, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
tried, revert if wrong, - put it under July 22 because July was empty, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I think that is fine.  MPJ-DK  22:53, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
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