Template:Did you know nominations/Mirza Zulqarnain

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:14, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Mirza Zulqarnain

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• ... that 17th-century traveller Peter Mundy, described Mirza Zulqarnain as the "chiefest" Christian of the Mughal Empire? (Husain 1998, p. 263)
  • ALT1:... that in 1632, Mirza Zulqarnain presented five elephants to the Mughal court as nazr?
  • ALT2:... that Mirza Zulqarnain, an Armenian official of the Mughal Empire, was brought up in the royal harem until the age of 12?

• Reviewed: Pwllpriddog Oak

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 08:46, 3 November 2018 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Excellent sources and interesting hooks. Nomination is posted at the incorrect date, but is still new enough. Some minor problems need resolving:

• The main hook is the opinion of a historical figure, and this should be indicated.
• In ALT1, the term nazr should be briefly defined inline, as it will otherwise distract from the main subject.
• Please also add the citations immediately after the cited hook in the Wiki article per DYK guideline, and since the "chiefest Christian" is a quote, you should add the page number in the citation as well.

Pending the suggested improvements, all three hooks seem very interesting and worthy of nomination. Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 14:22, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the detailed review. All done apart from explaining Nazr in the hook. It's difficult to define with accuracy anyway and is linked so readers can easily find our more by clicking. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:38, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Okay, great. Two remaining comments:

• The comma after Mundy is not required (I could remove it myself, but then a third reviewer needs to review the hook, which is a waste of time.)
• If you choose not to define nazr, I am afraid you do need to make ALT1 more "hooky" for it to be approved: See Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide#Review the hook for an overview with some tips.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 09:23, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

• It is hooky, precisely because it is not explained. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:14, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

• Okay, i guess we agree to disagree here. Approving ALT2. I'd prefer the main hook, but the comma is a little odd.