Template:Did you know nominations/Owen Swift
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Victuallers (talk) 12:16, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
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Owen Swift
[edit]- ... that the bare-knuckle prize fighter Owen Swift (pictured) killed at least three fellow boxers?
- ALT1 ... that the bare-knuckle prize fighter Owen Swift (pictured) killed at least three fellow boxers, and this led to the rules of boxing being rewritten?
- Reviewed: Kyle Jean-Baptiste
Created by Edwardx (talk), Philafrenzy (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 19:57, 3 August 2015 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, meets core content policies except that the paragraph about London Prize Ring Rules is mostly unreferenced. Awaiting QPQ. I would suggest an ALT hook adding the fact that this led to the rules of boxing being rewritten (I can write the alt, but another reviewer would then need to be called to sign it off). --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 15:51, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
QPQ still not supplied over four weeks from original nomination, and despite talk-page notification. Also, review issues still unaddressed, and need to be. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:54, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Changed to cropped image. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:00, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
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- I can't seem to find the second part of the hook fact in the given source. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 22:55, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comment The article includes the following, which would seem to address the latest query: "This event led to the rules of boxing being rewritten.[1] The London Prize Ring Rules were introduced by the Pugilists's Protective Association and replaced Broughton's rules of 1743.[2] There were 29 rules, built on Broughton's rules, but with more depth and detail.[2] These rules more clearly defined the range of fouls and introduced certain safety measures. Butting, gouging, biting, scratching, and kicking were all forbidden as was the use of stones or any hard object in the hand. Thirty-second breaks were introduced between rounds, at the end of which each fighter had to walk to the scratch unaided within 8 seconds.[2] The wearing of spiked boots was prohibited, and boxers who went to ground without being hit were disqualified. These rules still form the basis for the modern sport of boxing." 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:53, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- ^ Paths of Glory. Friends of Kensal Green Cemetery. 1997. p. 96.
- ^ a b c Barry Jordan (23 November 1992). Medical Aspects of Boxing. CRC Press. p. 5. ISBN 978-0-8493-4281-3. Retrieved 3 September 2015.
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- Comment I assume that the "Image: Image is freely license, used in the article, and clear at 100px"? Ordinarily reviews (using the DYK Review Template) include that phrase. While Earwig's Copy Violation detector opines there is a violation, I believe that the compared source is itself an unattributed lift from the Wikipedia article, not the other way around. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:07, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes I think it is them copying us. That post was created on 11 August 2015, after our article was complete. I note that it also includes a bracketed note [3] in the same place as our article but without any corresponding footnote on Boxing Asylum. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:56, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I very much like to use Earwig's Copy Violation detector—I think it is integral to the WP:DYK process—but it doesn't answer the question of who is copying whom. Tools have both uses and limits. I don't want to go off half-cocked. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:05, 12 September 2015 (UTC)