Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Kenneth Wilson
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:12, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
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Robert Kenneth Wilson
- ... that R. K. Wilson, the surgeon behind the hoax "surgeon's photograph" of the Loch Ness Monster, was later awarded the Croix de Guerre and the Order of Orange-Nassau? Source: '...he was awarded the Croix de Guerre by the French government and the Order of Orange-Nassau by the Dutch government.' Watters (2007)
- ALT1:... that R. K. Wilson, the surgeon behind the hoax "surgeon's photograph" of the Loch Ness Monster, later joined the Special Operations Executive and was decorated for missions behind enemy lines? Source: As above
- Reviewed: Coxton Tower
Created by Iainmacintyre (talk). Self-nominated at 10:39, 9 August 2019 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, very interesting, hook in article and cited with good sources, no copyvio issues, reads well. @Philafrenzy:...please can you check the image in the article? Good work.Whispyhistory (talk)
- I removed it as having no fair use rationale for that article. One is needed for each article in which an image appears. It can go back in if that is added. I notice it is nearly out of copyright. If he took it, it will go out of copyright 70 years after the end of the year in which he died. But as the authorship is uncertain then so is the copyright status. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:55, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thankyou @Philafrenzy:. This is an intriguing story. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:54, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- I removed it as having no fair use rationale for that article. One is needed for each article in which an image appears. It can go back in if that is added. I notice it is nearly out of copyright. If he took it, it will go out of copyright 70 years after the end of the year in which he died. But as the authorship is uncertain then so is the copyright status. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:55, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Whispyhistory: Many thanks for review and tick. @Philafrenzy: Thanks for the comments about the image which are noted. It is an interesting photograph of historical significance in this area and would certainly enhance the article. I've looked at the 10 criteria for non-free content at WP:NFCCP and it does seem to satisfy all 10. My understanding of the authorship question is that when first published in 1934 in the Daily Mail it was attributed to R K Wilson. We now know, from Christian Spurling's 1994 confession that Wilson did not take the photograph but it was taken by Marmaduke Wetherell (d 1939),( although the Wikipedia article states that it was his son Ian without citing a source). The Wikipedia fair use review of the image felt it was OK for the original but I don't want to put it back only to have it taken down again. How best to proceed? Papamac (talk) 13:45, 13 August 2019 (UTC)