Template:Did you know nominations/Tony Mott

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Harrias talk 21:59, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Tony Mott[edit]

Created by Odysseus voyage14 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:03, 7 December 2016 (UTC).

  • Comment only ", featuring the world's greatest musicians" should be trimmed, as the preceding text makes it redundant, and brevity is preferable. Edwardx (talk) 01:33, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Hello Edwardx (talk) yes I agree, for brevity delete “featuring the world's greatest musicians" or delete “on 900 magazine covers” ie.
“... that Australia's premier rock photographer, Tony Mott, has had 30,000 photographs published in 20 countries on 900 magazine covers” or,
“... that Australia's premier rock photographer, Tony Mott, has had 30,000 photographs published in 20 countries featuring the world's greatest musicians? Odysseus voyage14 (talk) 10:56, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, Odysseus voyage14. I would prefer the first of those, and thinking again, another small tweak, changing "on 900 magazine covers" to "including 900 magazine covers". Thus an ALT1 hook:
  • ALT1 ... that Australia's premier rock photographer, Tony Mott, has had more than 30,000 photographs published in 20 countries, including 900 magazine covers?
  • New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. ALT1 hook ref verified and cited inline. I tweaked the hook slightly. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. I read through the whole article and made a few small edits, in addition to reducing the large amount of repetitive linking. I added one cn tag to the last paragraph under "Personal life". Since Wikipedia is timeless, we try to avoid saying "today" and "currently". Kindly add some years to these two sentences. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 23:54, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Yoninah, the nominator hasn't edited on Wikipedia since December 12. If this is going to proceed, someone will need to make the remaining fixes that are needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:36, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
  • No problem, I just deleted the unsourced sentences. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Pulled from prep area - no mention of "20 countries" in the article. The referencing for "premier" is also incorrect, with the wrong author being given for one item, which as the catalogue of Mott's work is dubious as a source for this anyway. Harrias talk 13:39, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
  • If you knew how long I worked on this... But Harrias is right, and I missed those obvious mistakes in the hook. What bothers me most about the article is its promotional tone and WP:PEACOCK phrasing. I have just tagged the article. I'm not willing to work on it anymore; it needs a thorough going-over. I'm going to reject this nomination. Yoninah (talk) 20:37, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Given the tag on the page, the fact that the nominator, @Odysseus voyage14: is not active, and that @Yoninah: is no longer willing to work on it, I've formally closed this. Harrias talk 21:59, 26 January 2017 (UTC)