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This page transcludes a subset of the nominations found on the page of all the approved nominations for the "Did you know" section of the Main Page. It only transcludes the nominations filed under dates of the fourth-most recent week. The page is intended to allow editors to easily review recent nominations that may not be displaying correctly on the complete page of approved nominations if that page's contents are causing the page to hit the post-expand include size limit.

Jake Bates[edit]

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  • ... that the first field goal of Jake Bates's life was the second-longest in professional football history? Source: a bunch for it being second-longest, e.g. [1] - this for it being the first field goal of his life ("So, the 64-yarder to seal the Panthers' 18-16 victory over the St. Louis Battlehawks — the kick was a boomer that split the uprights and might've been good for 70 — was really the first field goal he's ever made in a game.")
    • Reviewed:COSMOS field and Thorpe, North Yorkshire (both donated by user:Storye book to speed things up a bit, due to the current backlog. Note: the article creators and the nominator have no obligations regarding these reviews, and their names are not mentioned on the review templates. Storye book (talk) 16:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)).[reply]
    • Comment: (by BeanieFan11) I did not write the article; however, I had heard about the subject and this seemed like a pretty good hook, so I'm nominating it.
Created by DenverBounded (talk) and Danjobilly1 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 156 past nominations.

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BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thank you for this nomination - it is much appreciated that you have done this.

  • This nomination was late by one day, which I am prepared to overlook on this occasion.
  • I have copied some refs to sit next to the hook facts, in the article. This will not affect this DYK review,

Good to go. Storye book (talk) 16:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've unpromoted this per the concerns at WP:ERRORS (Special:Permalink/1219742233). It sounds like this needs more work to remove several types of ambiguity (American, professional, tied), so sending it back here where this can get hashed out without the clock ticking towards midnight. RoySmith (talk) 15:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Fram, Amakuru, Storye book, RoySmith, Bagumba, and Secretlondon: Since I've been requested to discuss this here instead of the errors page, your thoughts on any of the following?
  • BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • ALT3 seems the safest, to me. Storye book (talk) 16:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Terms like "ever" and "life" seem redundant to me. His first, without qualification, is by definition his first ever or the first in his life. Should the fact that he tied the second longest be mentioned? And do we trust that a site like HawgBeat vetted NFL Europe for their records?—Bagumba (talk) 17:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • As for Rivals.com, I had used it as it was the first source to come up in my googling for the record. There's others, e.g. Detroit Free Press. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Good, less concern with Free Press (though journalism across the board is on the decline)—Bagumba (talk) 18:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Storye book: Can you check to ensure that all concerns have been resolved and this can be approved? Z1720 (talk) 13:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you, Z1720 for the reminder. I see that the Detroit Free Press citation has been applied in the article.
  • Good to go with ALTs 0, 1, 2, 3 or 4.
  • Note to promoter and admin: if you want to remove the word "ever" or "life" from a hook while in prep, that is fine by me; I understand the point made above. However I also understand that the readers will get that the hook is referring to official records of the player's professional life only. So I don't mind either way, but please change it if it worries you. Storye book (talk) 16:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]
    • Suggest inverting all of these hooks to put the bolded article link earlier, which also allows the omission of various unnecessary words. For example, ALT4 would become "ALT4a... that Jake Bates's first in-game field goal was the second-longest in professional football history?" —BlueMoonset (talk) 18:21, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kiro Gligorov[edit]

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Kiro Gligorov
Kiro Gligorov
Improved to Good Article status by StephenMacky1 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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StephenMacky1 (talk) 16:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article recently updated to GA-status. Hook mentioned in the article and the article has no issues with copyright. Good to go. - Toadboy123 (talk) 08:54, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can't promote this as there is at least one section with unsourced content.--Launchballer 09:00, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer, the article has no issues with verifiability. It is entirety sourced now. StephenMacky1 (talk) 19:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added [citation needed] tags.--Launchballer 19:47, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved. I'll promote this when I'm less groggy.--Launchballer 23:35, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mad honey[edit]

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Spoonful of mad honey
Spoonful of mad honey
Created by Gobonobo (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 114 past nominations.

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gobonobo + c 07:21, 14 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • To be honest, I really don't understand the main hook or ALT1. Why are "giant" and "make" in italics? It kind of looks like the word order got scrambled. Pinging Gobonobo in case this is an accident that passed unnoticed. Oh , my bad, it's a joke, I didn't read the comment. But given that users reading the hook won't have the privilege of seeing the comment, this should probably be tagged with [Humor]. Cremastra (talk) 20:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Full review needed. Striking both original hook and ALT1; parentheses are not allowed as part of hooks (except for "pictured" and the like). BlueMoonset (talk) 03:44, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Long enough, new enough. ALT2 short enough, interesting, and AGF sourced (shame about the other two). No neutrality issues found, no maintenance templates found. There's one quote in the article which is two paragraphs, only one of which is cited; I say it's obvious that the cite covers both, so I would pass this, but for the presence of single-sentence paragraphs which should be expanded per WP:DYKCOMPLETE.--Launchballer 10:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I've added a reference to the first half of the quote and moved a sentence. I'm not sure which other paragraphs strike you as not DYKCOMPLETE, I think the only single-sentence paragraph now is the one on legality. I could find no other (reliable) sources addressing legality, though I think it worth mentioning that it is banned in South Korea. gobonobo + c 16:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the source, that could easily be expanded. I wonder if it's worth knocking it and the paragraph together into a general 'Usage' section?--Launchballer 16:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I could use some clarification. I'm not sure which paragraph you are referring to or which source. Is the issue a matter of how sections/paragraphs are arranged or is there an aspect that is not reasonably complete? This source mentions the 2005 ban in South Korea but makes no mention of legality in other countries. gobonobo + c 17:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did mean that source. What I meant was that the source says "According to a report, South Korea alone imported over 8000 kg of mad honey from Nepal during 2003–04 and then, further import was banned by the Korean government in 2005." The 'imported over 8000 kg' bit could go into the article. I'm not holding the nom up for it though, and given that I've merged it into the above section myself I can pass this.--Launchballer 15:42, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lewis W. Green[edit]

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Lewis W. Green
Lewis W. Green
Improved to Good Article status by PCN02WPS (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 76 past nominations.

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PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: @PCN02WPS: Nice work on this article. The copyvio detector highlighted a few phrases, but they seem to be proper names or common phrases. Everything else checks out policy-wise. Just waiting on the 2 QPQs. Epicgenius (talk) 17:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Missing QPQs are required to be supplied within seven days of a review or comment pointing out that they are missing; it's now been twelve. Please submit your QPQs this weekend. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

George Henry Jenkins[edit]

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Jenkins in 1901
Jenkins in 1901
Created by ITBF (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

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ITBF (talk) 11:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Length, date, hook, image, qpq, close paraphrase checks out. --Soman (talk) 00:33, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agnes Kimball[edit]

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Agnes Kimball (1912)
Agnes Kimball (1912)
  • ... that although Agnes Kimball (pictured) was a popular recording artist of opera and musical theatre, she never appeared as a singing actress on the stage? Source: Kutsch, K. J.; Riemens, Leo (2003). "Kimball, Agnes". In Rost, Hansjörg (ed.). Grosses Sängerlexikon. Vol. Kainz–Menkes. K. G. Saur Verlag. p. 2380.
Created by 4meter4 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 73 past nominations.

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4meter4 (talk) 02:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting life and work, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF. The hook works for me. The image is licensed and an excellent illustration not only of the person but also the period at a glance. I have a few points about the article that you may consider, irrelevant for DYK.
  1. Her name. I would not call her Kimball until she is married.
  2. I would - as you know - whenever a composition has an article, mention the composer only by last name without link, to avoid two links in a row, and to link the more specific thing. People who really don't know Rossini can find that in the Stabat Mater article, - Stabat Mater as a standard Latin phrase like Magnificat not needing italics.
  3. GSL - I would link to Großes Sängerlexikon, - as written, with the two authors, it sounds as if two people had arrived at the same view independently. I strongly recommend to use the actual link to page in the latest edition.
    Kutsch, K. J.; Riemens, Leo (2012). "Kimball, Agnes". Großes Sängerlexikon (in German) (4th ed.). De Gruyter. p. 2380. ISBN 978-3-59-844088-5.
  4. I have a hard time with the wording "They had one daughter together" - why not "They had a daughter"?
  5. Second image: I'd find it better on the right side, making her "turn in" (the posture rather than the eyes), and use standard upright size.
  6. I am not sure that "beautifully conducted" is the right term for "schön geführt" talking about voices, but am too unfamiliar with such technical terms in English to recommend something better.
Again thank you for much detail about a forgotten singer! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda Arendt Thanks for the review Gerda. I incorporated most of your suggestions. In terms of the translation of "schön geführt" would "beautifully executed" be a better translation than "beautifully conducted"? You are after all a native German speaker.4meter4 (talk) 15:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I'm a native German speaker, but unfamiliar with the terms to describe voices in English. "geführt" suggests "in control" and an even production of lines without register breaks, but is there one word for it in English. I heard "gut geführt" more often than "schön geführt", btw. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:42, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think "beautifully controlled" would be a fine translation for English speakers. I've made that change per your input.4meter4 (talk) 15:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

William F. Fiedler[edit]

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William F. Fiedler
William F. Fiedler
Created by Toadboy123 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 30 past nominations.

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Toadboy123 (talk) 06:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article eligibility and quality check out, as does the hook itself. No evidence of copyvio. You do need a second QPQ though, as DYK is currently in backlog mode: editors with more than 20 past nominations need two QPQs at the moment. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 06:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mounir Akbache[edit]

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Akbache rabbiting the 2022 FBK Games 1500 metres
Akbache rabbiting the 2022 FBK Games 1500 metres
  • ... that after failing to qualify for prestigious races as an athlete, Mounir Akbache (pictured) became a rabbit? Source: In "Mounir Akbache, un coureur au service des autres" (in French), "Why did you choose to be a hare rather than a runner? I was a good athlete [...] but it didn't allow me to enter the world's biggest races. Today, I have the opportunity to be on the starting line alongside an Olympic or world champion. I'm living exceptional moments that I could never have experienced as an individual."
In L'Equipe (in French), ""Since what they had done two years ago, it was no longer a myth to aim for the world record," jubilated Mounir Akbache, whose first world record as a hare was set."
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: This is my first DYK nomination, open to feedback.
Created by Habst (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Habst (talk) 00:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is just barely long enough, but satisfies other requirements. I don't see any copyvio or outstanding issues (though I would recommend adding a second sentence to the lede). The hook checks out in its current state, but I think it's a bit excessively in length. How about something like "... that after failing to qualify for prestigious races, Mounir Akbache became a rabbit?" I think you can make this a great quirky hook by playing on the rabbit line without actually explaining what that is. Makes people wanna click to learn more. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 06:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Generalissima, thank you for your feedback.  Done I expanded the article lede, and edited the hook (only part I added onto your suggestion is the phrase "as an athlete" to emphasize the distinction between running solo vs as a rabbit, but you are free to remove it if you think it's awkward). --Habst (talk) 10:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like the contrast created between athlete and rabbit here, it's good wordplay. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 13:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Li Zhaoxing[edit]

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Li Zhaoxing
Li Zhaoxing
5x expanded by Toadboy123 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 31 past nominations.

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Toadboy123 (talk) 13:33, 10 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: 5X expanded recently; all cited; hook is very interesting; picture is under CCA4; waiting for QPQ so this should be afterwards GTG.Makeandtoss (talk) 16:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GTG now . Makeandtoss (talk) 09:31, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

287 Broadway[edit]

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287 Broadway
287 Broadway
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 649 past nominations.

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Epicgenius (talk) 13:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Newly 5x expanded. Article is well-sourced, presentable, neutral, and BLP-compliant. Earwig looks fine and no close paraphrasing was detected. Images are freely licensed. The hooks are all cited and interesting. The hook image renders well. For ALT3 and the related quote in the article, the version of the AIA Guide that I'm looking at reads "most succulent cast-iron street-show in all New York". QPQs are needed. Excellent article. gobonobo + c 16:54, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks for the review. I will do the QPQs within the next few days, but for now I've fixed ALT3. Epicgenius (talk) 20:07, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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