This page transcludes a subset of the nominations found on the page of all the approved nominations for the "Did you know" section of the Main Page. It only transcludes the nominations filed under dates of the second-most recent week. The page is intended to allow editors to easily review recent nominations that may not be displaying correctly on the complete page of approved nominations if that page's contents are causing the page to hit the post-expand include size limit.
Source: Mundelein, Arcadia Publishing, pp. 94: "The Ray Brothers hosted numerous stars of the day as guests, including Jack Benny playing at the pavilion, as did Glenn Miller and Lawrence Welk." (The full quote on page 94 of the book clarifies that the dance pavilion is in Diamond Lake)
ALT2: ... that a bar in Diamond Lake, Illinois, was described by the Daily Herald as "the dart headquarters for the Windy City and Northern Illinois dart leagues" in 2008?
Source: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/26987615/ "They introduced darts, real ones, to the Irish Mill, which later became the dart headquarters for the Windy City and Northern Illinois dart leagues."
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Comment: This is my first one. A bit nervous and I'm hoping I'm doing everything correctly. Some of the sources come from my work in Mundelein, Illinois (especially the education one), but not including it still makes the prose large enough :)
5x expanded by SeymourHolcomb (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Overall: @SeymourHolcomb: Hi Seymour, and welcome to Wikipedia and further to DYK! No need to be nervous, we're a pretty chill bunch. Offline sources are fine, as we assume good faith. Great job on inline sourcing. I fixed a minor typo in ALT2; all hooks are good (although I favor ALT0 or ALT1, as I believe they will appeal to the largest audience).
One small thing: the infobox photo caption calls the church "Vision Church" but the prose calls it "Diamond Lake Church". A quick Google seems to favour calling it "Vision Church", so can this be changed in the body of the article?
I really don't see any other issues with the article to get it ready for DYK, I just fixed a few minor things, so great job for your first go at it! –TCMemoire15:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the photo so the "Vision Church" disrepency won't be shown. The tense for "Diamond Lake Church" is ambiguous because I could not find concrete proof that Vision Church and Diamond Lake Church are the exact same, despite being Methodist churches on the exact same building. SeymourHolcomb (talk) 20:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can confirm that yes, they are the same church, but without using synth (comparing the map on the "Our Gem" PDF and the location on Google Maps), but I am looking into a source to confirm the name change. SeymourHolcomb (talk) 19:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SeymourHolcomb: Works for me. You're right, they probably are the same church, we just need someone to say it! Going to give this one the approval tick. I did also create a commons category for Diamond Lake, so all photos can nicely be consolidated there. –TCMemoire09:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that ten years after publishing a book about Great South African Christians, Horton Davies(pictured) gave a speech criticizing South African churches for their role in Apartheid? Source: Great South African Christians, Oxford University Press, 1951 (verifying the book was published in 1951), in "Horton (Marlais) Davies", in Gale Literature: Contemporary Authors (September 28, 2005); Speaking on "The Church in South Africa: a Warning." and Clearly the churches and the synagogues must take some responsibility for the situation as they are the guardian of the nation's conscience," he said ("he" being Horton Davies, verifying his criticism of South African churches in 1961) "Church Role in S. Africa Outlined", The Morning Call, May 11, 1961, p. 10
ALT1: ... that during World War II, Horton Davies(pictured) was minister to a church in "Flying Bomb Alley", a part of London nicknamed for the many bombs dropped on it? Source: During the war Professor Davies underwent what he calls his "baptism of fire" while a minister in the section of London called "Flying Bomb Alley" because it received a record number of bombs per square mile, in "The Clergy in Fiction", Oklahoma City Star, October 30, 1959, p. 6.
Comment: For clarity on ALT2, Davies probably also earned a different Bachelor's degree (a BA in English, as he's described in a source written by his wife, which I did not cite in the article as being too close to the subject, as having been an English major) before his MA; his BD, or Bachelor in Divinity, though, was earned after his MA, according to Gale Literature.
Created by Hydrangeans (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.
Approving all hooks on good faith, pref. ALT0 and ALT1. Article is long enough and created same day as DYK nom. Article is well-sourced, presentable, and free from copyvio (where possible, hits on book titles and such). Hooks are sourced, though blocked by login, and the first two hooks are interesting; ALT2 is okay but not particularly eye-catching. Image meets criteria. Thank you for your nomination Hydrangeans! Kimikel (talk) 21:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: [1]The only named train operated by the L.I.R.R., the Cannonball first traveled these tracks in the 1890s as an express train between Long Island City and Southampton.
ALT1: ... that the Cannonball(pictured), a commuter train on the Long Island Rail Road, once operated exclusively with parlor cars? Source: [2]This summer it will have all-parlor car trains on the long runs to the twin tips of Long Island.; [3]...from May to October, the railroad runs the Cannonball Express, which McNamara called the only all-parlor-car train in the country.
Overall: for ALT1 as I think folks will want to click on parlor car and it meets the criteria. For ALT0, the name bit didn't really make me want to read more into it. I'm also not convinced that the source for ALT0 fully backs up the claim, as it says it's the only one known by a name, not necessarily that it is still known by the same name. Seems a bit synthy. Grk1011 (talk) 13:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Grk1011: Thanks for the review. There are a couple of other sources throughout the article indicating other named trains no longer run, plus the 2024 timetable and press release that mention the name, but I'm cool sticking with ALT1. Complex/Rational14:38, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Source 1 doesn't seem to mention the facts in the hook, and the second source seems somewhat partisan and I'm somewhat suspicious of the quality of an article starting with "Did You Know". Does the academic source mentioned in the same paragraph in this article ([7]) mention it in any way? That would be much better. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 06:42, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Flemmish Nietzsche: Sadly, the academic source doesn't back the claim up but it does back up the claim that an area in the Vatican was once a chariot racing track. Though I'm not sure what's Wikipedia's and the DYK's policy on "possibly statements" (i.e. ...that sport in Vatican City possibly started in the 1st century, when a chariot racing track was built in what was then ancient Rome?" I suggest using ALT1 instead if that's the case. Though I can make another hook if it isn't interesting enough. Arconning (talk) 06:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Arconning I checked that journal I suggested, fand you're right about it not being definite that the chariot track ever actually existed there. ALT1 is not the most interesting, but I could accept it if there's nothing else better you can find. How about "... that sport in Vatican City began in the 16th century with the first ever match of calcio fiorentino, an early form of football?" This might not be the "start" of sport in the area that is now the Vatican, but it seems to be the first major event when that area was under the control of an independent Papal State, so I think it would pass. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Flemmish Nietzsche For the hook that you suggested, I'm all for it but with some minor tweaks. Since we can't really determine when sport in Vatican City really started, I think we should put something like "governed by the nation", "started by the nation", or something shorter. (i.e. ... that sport in Vatican City started by the nation began in the 16th century with the first ever match of calcio fiorentino, an early form of football?"). Arconning (talk) 07:38, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Arconning "started by the nation" seems somewhat iffy, as it could be confused with "nation" meaning a group of people sharing a common identity rather than a sovereign state; maybe "state-sponsored" or "officially" would be better? (... that state-sponsored sport in Vatican City began in the 16th century with the first ever match of calcio fiorentino, an early form of football?") Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:45, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Allen Eyles (2003), Brighton and Hove Cinemas, p.71. "At midnight on Thursday 8 January 1948, the world premiere of Brighton Rock took place at the Savoy (no other cinema was in the running, as it was made by ABC's associated production company)." (First sentence from a full paragraph about the premiere. The Savoy was the name of the cinema at the time, as noted in the article.)
...No copyvio issues, neutral. Hook is followed by a citation to a reference i cannot see, though a copy of the text is provided above. Reads well and hook and article are interesting. Thank you for your work. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that prior to being appointed as mayor of Guangzhou, Sun Zhiyang worked as a senior engineer and deputy general manager of the Chinese state-owned automobile manufacturer FAW Group?
Article is long enough and new enough. Article is presentable, sourced, and free from copyvio. Hooks are interesting enough and sourced using Chinese sources (hence the good faith). Some sources are state-sponsored (i.e. Xinhua) but acceptable. QPQ done. Thank you for your nomination Toadboy123! Kimikel (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Newton Lower Falls Branch was operated with a single electric railcar (pictured) nicknamed the "Ping-Pong"?
Source: Boston Globe, April 6, 1909; Humphrey, Thomas J.; Clark, Norton D. (1986). Boston's Commuter Rail: Second Section. Boston Street Railway Association. ISBN 9780938315025.
Interesting article. All parts of the article are cited with no problems with copyright. The stated hook is also mentioned in the article with proper sourcing. Good to go. Toadboy123 (talk) 14:34, 1 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]
... that despite plans for multiple concentric invasions, the only fighting during the First Bishops' War was in north-east Scotland?
Source: Brooks 2005: "The only fighting was in northeast Scotland" and Kenyon & Ohlmeyer 1998a: "Between his allies inside Scotland and the concentric blows from outside the country, the king felt confident of victory."
Overall: I assume good faith on the references that I can't access, and it's helpful that the nominator included the relevant text. The promoter can choose the hook. SL93 (talk) 00:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Upon second review I consider ALT0a to read a little better. It remains consistent with the sourcing, though I welcome further feedback. ResonantDistortion21:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Thank you for this interesting article. Just one minor issue:
Neutrality can be a delicate thing. The "nasty, brutish and not short enough" review balances the other reviews, so the body of the article is neutral in that respect. But the header only says "critically well-received", which is not neutral, and sounds like an advertisement. So please neutralise the header?
I have given the article a minor copyedit, and added a missing reference. That does not affect this DYK nomination.
Thank you for the review Storye book. Fair point - as ever I have aimed for neutrality, however this was not wholly reflected in the lead. I have edited the section to try and resolve this. Furthermore your copyedit improvement is most appreciated. ResonantDistortion22:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Can we say "co-consecrated" instead of "consecrated" in the hook to reflect the citation more accurately? Sohom (talk) 03:32, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: (Than Tun 1959: 122) and (Than Tun 1964: 137) provide the starting and ending dates of the siege: 25 January 1301 and 8 April 1301, respectively.
(Harvey 1925: 77) for the amount of bribes given to the Mongols.
Article created from a redirect one day before nomination. Can't seem to notice any issues, will AGF on the inaccessible & Burmese sources for article and hook. QPQ done. Nice work. B3251(talk)20:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Got GA status 5 days ago, so the article and its hook is okay. I omitted the word "rare" because the sources don't exactly state that this type of protest is rare in Singapore. If the nominator can provide source for the claim then I will reverse it. Mehedi Abedin13:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think you don't understand. You need a source that clearly states or indicates that "the act of putting eight white cardboard elephants for Buangkok MRT station's opening is a 'rare' form of public protest in Singapore". The two sources you provided talks about rare protest in Singapore but nothing about eight white cardboard elephants for Buangkok MRT station's opening. Mehedi Abedin05:36, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Ornithoptera, review follows: article created 1 July and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I made a small edit that moves one sentence a little away from the source, there is some similarity left but I think on the right side of acceptability given limited options for rewording; hook is interesting enough for me, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; image is nice and freely licensed; my only query is on your QPQ, you say you'll be doing it on 7 July but the one you've linked is from 2012 by another user? - Dumelow (talk) 14:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Dumelow:! Thank you for taking the time to go through this article and with this review! It is greatly appreciated! To address your concern, I messed up and linked the original QPQ link when it should have been Template:Did you know nominations/Three Dikgosi Monument (2nd nomination). Hope that properly addresses your concerns!
Substantial article on its way to higher quality, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. All hooks work, I like ALT1 best, but am told regularly that I have now idea what our readers find interesting. The image is licensed and impressive. Just waiting for qpq. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well sourced, plagiarism free and a QPQ is done. ALT0 is cited and interesting, but (from my reading) ALT1 might not work: isn't it that the fort was named after the princess, and the museum is named after the fort? So slightly different in the hook to the article. I might be overthinking though! Lajmmoore (talk) 13:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Was a draft until today so new enough and, as I now realise, also long enough. I can't see any problems in the article around copyvio, POV or OR. Sourcing looks good overall and the hook citations appear to be sound and reliable. The hook is certainly interesting because it caught my eye immediately when I was checking my own nomination. QPQ has been done. I think this is fine and it should be promoted. PearlyGigs (talk) 21:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose this nomination: An article on this subject was deleted 7 months ago because of weak sourcing. There haven't been any new sources added other than a paper by the two proponents of this theory and lots of other really weak sources. Wikipedia's job isn't to promote anti-vaxx conspiracy theories or other conspiracy theories, of which in my and other people's opinions, this is one. The only people claiming that ANYONE adheres to these multiple philosophies is Torres and Gebru. ---Avatar317(talk)00:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Original admin who closed AfD undeleted it after i proposed appropriate changes. the AfD never came to consensus of conspiracy theory (just u), and deleted it due to lack of WP:N. if u want to delete this again, use AfD again or bug the original admin.Bluethricecreamman (talk) 01:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was aware when I did the DYK review that the article is about ideologies, but I don't consider the article to be promoting those ideologies because it is neutral. The subject, in my opinion, is notable. I can't say I'm knowledgeable about TESCREAL but the article does appear to be adequately sourced. I've been reading it again and I still think the hook should be promoted. But, as I say, I am not an SME in this area so I will happily step aside if an SME is needed. Incidentally, the lead is the primary location of the hook material and its two sources. Thanks. PearlyGigs (talk) 09:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have to second the concerns brought up above: this article was merged in November for poor sourcing and the fact that it seemed to lean very heavily into the op-ed angle of the source it did use. To be clear, I certainly have a great personal distaste for the majority of people who run the majority of software companies, and ethical objections to a good portion of the United States' GDP (I am a diehard Linux user with all of the political implications that entails). However, the implication that "global tech elites" are engaged in a deliberate scheme to carry out eugenics (as one of the sources said from the previous version of this article), based on a collection of op-eds and blog posts where people who hate them say this a bunch of times, seems to raise some rather significant BLP issues. It is somewhat concerning to vaguely imply this in wikivoice as though it's settled fact, and then the citations are to a journal of biosemiotics. jp×g🗯️02:17, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Posting on here same stuff as in the Talk Page section:
A) This article was merged for lack of WP:N. If you consider it still an issue, use WP:AfD or bug the original admin who deleted, merged, than undeleted this. It isn't a valid argument to suggest that it's settled that it deserves to remerged if we've added a ton of sourcing and improved on it. Settle it by starting the process to delete it if you want.
B) Are there reliable sources indicating that TESCREAL is a significantly derogatory epithet similar to Libtard/Chud? Marc Andreessen self-describes as TESCREAList. Many of these folks regularly ascribe to multiple of these philosophies as transhumanists, ethical altruists, long-termists, etc. Sourcing here does not necessarily imply that every TESCREAList is also a eugenicist, nor do we use WP:SYNTH to suggest that these folks are all eugenicists. There is no mention of eugenicist claims in the third section. Also, we have Big Tech as a wikipedia article along with criticism, which is also a similar "perjorative" against tech companies, and other significant "perjoratives" with negative connotations such as Democrat in Name Only and Cuckservative. These all explain what opinion writers and commentators mean, and why. This article is far more tame than many of those.
C) That more than a dozen opinions use a term like this should be notable enough. I suspect that any sort of article about philosophies will require opinionated sources or commentaries. Effective altruism includes sourcing from Centre for Effective Altruism and by extension the Effective Altruism Forum, study centers specifically invested in effective altruism and founded by leaders, as well as many opinions.
D) WP:OPINION applies here, especially for philosphical arguments. I looked for criticisms of TESCREAL. If more are published, we can include them. These sources are WP:SECONDARY, they contain analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources. Secondary sources are not necessarily independent sources.
E) If you want to settle WP:BLP, please post in the section on WP:BLPN. We've already started and done this argument. There are multiple sources on WP:PUBLICFIGUREs here alleging that many of these folks use TESCREAL to justify their tech projects, and we make sure to use the word "allege" correctly, as per WP:OPINION, along with the correct sourcing
Conclusion:) TESCREAL is unliked by some portion of folks on here for some reason. I'm happy to listen to arguments, but I want an argument about why we are suddenly so sensitive about criticism of Elon Musk/etc. for using human extinction for every time someone criticizes his behavior or cars or products. If you are just an elon musk/nick bostrum/etc. fan, than say it and stop throwing mud on an article that contains a criticism of philosophies that occurs often enough that we can gather 20+ sources, including 10 using the term in severe detail to directly dissect the argument that yelling extinction every 15 minutes doesn't mean you've justified your next mega project. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 04:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hook is interesting and appropriately sourced. Article is both long and new enough. No copyvio concerns. QPQ done. I'd wager that The Mechanism of English Style is either suitable as a redirect or an article. Great work! ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Hi, this article has been a labour of love for 3 years and it's finally moved to mainspace! I offer a variety of hooks (positive and negative), happy for feedback on this - there's a fair few relevant photos too.
Moved to mainspace by Turini2 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
I've made changes and comments as required to the article. I think I'd like to focus on the positive hooks, with this photo instead? Turini2 (talk) 11:29, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]London bus with wheelchair ramp
I think that is more interesting as since the TfL bus fleet has been accessible for a while. but since the LU is the oldest metro systems, its partially accessible with only a third. Also with taxis, I assume you're talking about the TfL ones since other services like Uber likely don't have the accessibility scheme in place and use a normal car. I also think something that is not mostly accessible is better and more interesting that those that are fully accessible. For example, a hook stating that the Elizabeth line is fully accessible (even including the old stations) wouldn't be interesting as new(er) systems are expected to be accessible/have step free systems. JuniperChill (talk) 09:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I'm happy to go with that hook with a minor tweak for "step-free"- yes, I mean "London black taxi", technically Uber is not a taxi (Vehicle for hire). I didn't want to be too negative about accessibility, but the Tube one is balanced. Could use the lead photo - unsure on caption though! Turini2 (talk) 10:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the late reply as I was out and about. Anyway, I don't really need to see the point of the photo if we are talking about 1/3rd of LU stations accessible since I cannot think what demonstrates it, plus its very tight for images on DYK because only one image a day (or two images a day in the event of a backlog) for the ~8 hooks. Also @TheNuggeteer:, what do you think of the new hook as you initially reviewed it? JuniperChill (talk) 16:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now its time to turn the signal green now that the hook issue has been fixed. I didn't know step-free has a hyphen so I'm fine with that alongside removing the 'only'. JuniperChill (talk) 10:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Bloom, John (2015). "The Extraordinary History of Cycling and Bike Racing in Washington, DC". In Elzey, Chris; Wiggins, David K. (eds.). DC Sports: The Nation's Capital at Play. pages 3–5
Kimikel Article meets DYK standards – well-sourced, neutral, and free of plagiarism (the article is a defo must-read, pretty nice writing for a short article). The source comes from a reliable source which is... the bare minimum but yeah it works! The image supplied works as well, pretty nice quality. Original alt works. Arconning (talk) 15:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Environmental impacts of artificial intelligence[edit]
Ok, i've updated the template with the corrected source for the first one (I guess I mixed up the two scientific american articles, I think they bothy say that GPT-3 releases 552 metric tons of Co2, but only one talks about the comparison to cars. Thanks for catching that! Also fixed ALT1, thanks for fixing that as well! Apologies for incorrect info, I'll try to read a bit slower with these articles. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 21:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't dig to hard on that spammy site earlier, sorry. I agree that they stole from enwiki and not the other way around. All three hooks are good to go. I think ALT0 is the most compelling. awkwafaba (📥) 01:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Page is new and long enough and the hook is interesting, verified, and present with a citation in the article. Sourcing looks good and QPQ is complete. Good to go. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:07, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Kelsey, Harry (1979). "William P. Dole (1861–1865)". In Kvasnicka, Robert M.; Viola, Herman J. (eds.). The Commissioners of Indian Affairs, 1824-1977. Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press. pp. 139-140
... that actor Scott Jarvis was angered when White House officials under Richard Nixon requested that portions of his role in the musical 1776 be cut due to its anti-war theme?
This looks good! Long enough, eligible, no evidence of copyvio, QPQ done. Hook is cited in-article. I'll have to AGF on the source itself, but otherwise everything seems good. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: "the shape of the lozenge is based on the design of the buttons on one of the dresses Doreen Lofthouse wore to the office" from: Chrystal, Paul (30 June 2021). The History of Sweets. Pen and Sword History. pp. 63–64. ISBN978-1-5267-7886-4.
ALT1: ... that Doreen Lofthouse sent samples of Fisherman's Friend lozenges (pictured) to celebrities seen to be coughing in public, including Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan? Source: "” She never missed a marketing opportunity, and whenever any personality was heard to cough in public, she would dispatch Fisherman’s Friends. Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan and the Prince of Wales were among her beneficiaries." from:"Doreen Lofthouse, businesswoman who made Fisherman's Friend lozenges a global bestseller – obituary". Daily Telegraph. 31 March 2021. Retrieved 1 July 2024.
ALT2: ... that Doreen Lofthouse developed Fisherman's Friend(lozenges pictured) from a local remedy for seamen's ailments into a sweet, made in the billions and exported to 120 countries? Source: "invented in 1865 by James Lofthouse, a pharmacist who devised a range of cures for the trawlermen of the Lancashire fishing port of Fleetwood ... When she suggested trying to sell the lozenges outside the town “they thought I was a little crazy,” she recalled" from: >"Doreen Lofthouse, businesswoman who made Fisherman's Friend lozenges a global bestseller – obituary". Daily Telegraph. 31 March 2021. Retrieved 1 July 2024. "Since then, the family business has grown to produce about 5 billion lozenges a year" from: "Fisherman's Friend tycoon leaves £41m to hometown Fleetwood". BBC News. 22 October 2021. Retrieved 28 June 2024. "the cough sweet is now available in 120 countries" from: "Lofthouses' extra strong marriage". BBC Lancashire. 20 July 2009. Retrieved 28 June 2024.
... Earwig's copyvio~10%, hooks are all in the article followed by citations to references containing the relevant hooks. All 3 hooks are interesting. The image is free. Another very enjoyable work by the author, thank you. Passing proposed hook as alt1 and 2 are too long. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Drew, Keith (6 July 2023). "How the Chocolate Islands are rediscovering their roots". BBC. Retrieved 28 June 2024. The trees thrived in the rich volcanic soil, and by the early 1900s, São Tomé and Príncipe was the biggest exporter of cacao in the world, earning it the nickname of 'The Chocolate Islands'.
Comment: Technically, São Tomé and Príncipe is a singular country (a Portuguese colony at the time mentioned in the hook). The hook should therefore use singular conjugations of verbs, but it sounded too odd upon my initial reading. I thus changed the verbs to their plural conjugations, as if the islands themselves are being described rather than the modern country or the former colony. I have nonetheless included my original wording as ALT1, in case the reviewer or promoter wants to compare the two.
Created by Yue (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.
Hi Yue, review follows: article created 3 July and exceeds minimum length; I reworded one sentence slightly to move it further from the source, but otherwise I don't think there is an issue with overly close paraphrasing; article is cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources for the subject; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited (BBC); a QPQ has been provided; image is properly licensed and looks fine. I changed from single to double quotation marks in the hooks to match the article and, I think, our MOS. In terms of plurals I think English_plurals#Geographical_plurals_used_as_singular discusses this; either alternative sounds OK to me but British English tends to be a bit more flexible than US English on this (see eg. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Plurals) - Dumelow (talk) 09:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dumelow: Thank you for taking the time to do this review! On second thought, maybe ALT1 is the better choice because ALT0 implies that there were two exporters instead of one. Yue🌙02:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Adequate sourcing: - This direct quote needs to have a footnote immediately following: "At first, it was all for fun, but suddenly it went super fast and I was busy with it full time." Per DYK guidelines, the hook fact needs to also have a footnote directly following it; I would put one where the fact appears in both the lead and body.
Other problems: - I'm a little concerned about the reliablity of TVovermind. Searching for it on the perennial sources noticeboard, there's some concern that it's a low-quality clickbait website. Is there a better source available for Dept's birthday? Her nlwiki article cites Famous Birthdays, which is blacklisted and therefore unhelpful. Otherwise, WP:DOB dictates we need to remove it or only include the year, should a source be available. (Maybe check her socials? A birthday tweet or something would be acceptable.)
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Comment: I have added a citation in the lead for where it mentions the DYK fact, in addition to placing a citation next to the direct quotation. As for her birth date, I have been unable to find any source, excluding TVovermind, which states her birth date in full. I have found a pinned YouTube comment in her CEMI channel which says her birthday is on December 8.[1] We know that she was 23 years old on September 26, 2023,[2] so I believe we can infer her birth date as being December 8, 1999. Would it be acceptable if I assembled these two sources to state her full birth date? ―Howard • 🌽3319:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Howardcorn33: Unfortunately not; WP:DOB addresses this point, that concensus has been reached that combining sources to deduce a birthdate is considered WP:SYNTH. I would bet that TVovermind is just ripping from Famous Birthdays. Good new, though: if you go back through her celine.dept Instagram, there's a post from December 9, 2019, where she says "yesterday was my 20th birthday", we can use that. I would drop the link for you but I'm having issues linking from Instagram on my phone, sorry! Edit: She also dropped this Tiktok with #22, so that helps alleviate any concern that she wouldn't be okay continuing to advertise her birthday.–TCMemoire09:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that Bengisu Avcı could not complete her fifth swim of the Oceans Seven series in Hawaii due to intense burning after jellyfish contact?
Source: "En son Hawaii’deki Ka’iwi (Molokai) parkurunu yüzmeye çalıştım,", "Her açık deniz yüzücüsünün hayali olan Okyanus 7’lisinin 5. parkurunda Portekiz Man o'War denizanasına temas edince büyük acı duyan Bengisu, parkuru tamamlayamadı." (in Turkish)[12]
ALT1: ... that Bengisu Avcı is the first Turkish woman who has received the Triple Crown of Open Water Swimming award? Source: "Bu başarılarıyla Dünya Açık Su Yüzme Federasyonu tarafından verilen 'Üçlü Tacı' elde eden ilk Türk kadını unvanını kazandı." (in Turkish)[13]
Overall: Great work! I'm currently in Turkey and I enjoyed reading and reviewing the article, and it looks like it has no obvious issues from what I can see. I'm partial to the second hook but open to either hook being used depending on the final decision of the closing reviewer. --Sky Harbor(talk)16:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New enough in mainspace and long enough. QPQ present. Hook fact checks out and is in source. No textual issues I can see. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:41, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: What's most interesting about this guy is his unusual name, which the article doesn't explain. Perhaps someone will figure it out when we run it. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:54, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]