Template talk:List of sea captains and pilots
Review of pilot notability
[edit]Sandy Hook
[edit]- Richard Brown
- notable - won the America's Cup
- Theophilus Beebe
- potential claim to notability as "first" pilot licensed under the the New Jersey Commission
- James D. M. Beebe
- AfD consensus to keep
- Charles O. Beebe
- AfD consensus to delete
- Walter Brewer
- Andrew J. Comstock
- claim to notability re America's Cup
- James Callahan
- AfD consensus to delete
- John Joseph Canvin
- AfD consensus to delete
- Electus Comfort
- AfD consensus to delete
- Franklin Fowler
- AfD consensus to delete
- Thomas Freeborn
- potential claim to notability re Pilots' Monument but could be redirected to that article
- Joseph Henderson
- Josiah Johnson Sr.
- AfD consensus to delete
- Josiah Johnson Jr.
- AfD consensus to delete
- Gideon L. Mapes
- AfD consensus to delete
- Michael Murphy
- AfD consensus to delete
- Franklin Osgood
- notable as winner of America's cup and in Hall of Fame
- Augustus Van Pelt
- Frank P. Van Pelt
- Howard Van Pelt
- AfD consensus to delete
- James Howard Van Pelt
- AfD consensus to delete
Boston
[edit]- Abel F. Hayden
- Bruce Boutlier McLean
- Thomas Cooper
- AfD consensus to delete
- William C. Fowler
- AfD consensus to delete
- William Robinson Lampee
- AfD consensus to delete
- James Llewellyn Smith
- AfD consensus to delete
- James M. Dolliver
- AfD consensus to delete
- James H. Reid
- potential claim to notability made around the yachet America
- John C. Fawcett
- John Henry Low
- AfD consensus to delete
- George W. Lawler
- AfD consensus to delete
- Joseph W. Colby
- AfD consensus to delete
- Watson Shields Dolliver
- AfD consensus to delete
- Franklin B. Wellock
- AfD consensus to delete
A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 23:15, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]Thanks for starting this A. B. I have added my notes on the Sandy Hook list, there are a couple with claims to notability but most I'm not seeing. Will come back to review Boston list later. Melcous (talk) 00:32, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- I've now looked through the Boston list as well and noted one potential claim to notability. The rest, from my reading, all talk about these as men who lived, did a job, had a family etc - nothing that seems to rise to a claim for notability beyond the fact of them being maritime pilots, which I do not believe in and of itself is sufficient. Keen for others to look through and see what they think, including those who have been in the discussion on the author's talk page, @Drmies: @Graywalls: @Netherzone:. thanks Melcous (talk) 02:34, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, with claims like "He is best known for being a member of the Boston Pilots' Association for 19 years" we're not going to get very far. I've been with AAA for that long. Drmies (talk) 16:13, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- Henderson's notability discussed in depth at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joseph Henderson (pilot). - Station1 (talk) 04:32, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
NE US centric template
[edit]Just to note that there is an article List of sea captains and it contains people from various countries around the world whereas this template was created without so much as a qualifier like "US" or even more specifically "Boston and New York". What is the purpose of this template if it is for a tiny subset of sea captains (whose articles were all created by the same, now banned, editor)? Melcous (talk) 12:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- The template should be deleted, and any notable captains can be merged. Note that several on this template have marginal notability. Discretion should be used if / when merging. Netherzone (talk) 04:38, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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