User:Matty.007/Adoption-OscarLake
Good answer; correctly addresses all points relevant to the question and shows a sound understanding of the issues involved.
Nearly a good answer, just something is missing-I will say what
Wrong answer; shows a misunderstanding or wrong answer
You need to get a minimum of 7/10 to move on to the next lesson, if you do not, I will create a new test on that lesson for you to try[edit]
OK OscarLake, before we begin assignments, I have a few questions for you:
- Do you prefer being called Oscar (I presume that is your name) or OscarLake?
- So you are from Sweden? Great! What times do you usually edit, and how often?
Have you got any questions for me?
Thanks, Matty.007 18:06, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Hey, Matty. Actually, OscarLake is a pseudonym but feel free to call me whatever you like. And yep, I'm from Sweden. What times I edit? I don't know, whenever I'm in the mood, I suppose...however, I'll come here more frequently now that it's summer and no studies. OscarLake (talk) 12:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
The Five Pillars[edit]
Summary:
1. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and it combines several features. However, it is not the place for putting your point of view, advertising or promoting yourself, and it has certain guidelines.
2. Articles are to be written from a neutral point of view, with veritable sources, i.e. not opinions, interpretations or experience.
3. On Wikipedia, you don't own articles, it is free content to be edited and re-distributed.
4. Treat fellow editors with respect-avoid personal attacks, assume good faith, do not edit to make a point
5. The rules are not carved in stone:the rules evolve, and as such, do not worry too much about mistakenly breaking some in good faith.
Questions-9.5/10[edit]
Lol, a quiz? I didn't know I would be asked questions. My adoption agency WILL hear about this, that's for sure. :p
- LOL!
1. You have been told by a friend that there was a record heatwave in Gothenburg yesterday. Could you add this to an article? Explain
Sure I can, in the Gothenburg article, there's a temperature tabel with a "Record high" column. But only if I add a reference, of course.
2. You see a great article on the STV website about Vänsterpartiet's victory in the local elections. You decide that it is so good, it deserves a Wikipedia page. You copy the page, and create it a Wikipedia article, and paste it there. Is this the right thing to do? Explain
Nope. I have to rephrase the text in my own words. Otherwise SVT will be pissed off, due to copyright infringement, lol.
3. You think that the article on Sweden is not showing enough about the fascinating workings of the TV service. You edit in how you know it works, helping people with your review of the service. Is this right? Explain
I don't see anything wrong with that. Once again, as long as I add a reference, it's all good. But if I have knowledge in something, and can't find any reliable sources to back it up, then I won't write anything.
4. You get a book autographed by Robert Pirès at a book fair in Stockholm, so edit his page saying where he was and what he was doing. Is this right? Explain
Of course not. This is irrelevant from an encyclopedic point of view. Although I'm sure that Gunners fans would disagree...
5. You create a page on your sandbox about the environment of Sweden. You go back a couple of days later, and find it has been copied, and created by another user. Is this right? Explain
Yes, I think so. You see...the point of Wikipedia is to spread accurate knowledge to the world. The person who started the topic or article shouldn't be in focus, so it really doesn't matter WHO creates it. As long as it's created, right?
6. You see some text shamelessly copied from one of your articles on a leading news site. You consider action, as they have not acknowledged using your page! What should you do? Explain
Honestly, I don't really mind. I don't get paid to write any Wikipedia articles, so technically, I wouldn't lose anything if someone else used my text without my permission. On the contrary, I'd just be flattered and think "my text is so awesome that other people wanna use it".
7. A user swears all over your userpage (it happens) for undoing his edits to a page. Do you do the same to him? Explain
Nope, I've grown tired of Internet arguments, so I would just politely explain why his edits sucked. If he still continues after that, I'd just ignore. But I wouldn't remove his rants, though. I value free speech very highly.
8. A new user has completely changed one of the articles you created, so you undo his edits, then post a vandalism warning on his user page. Is this right? Explain
Of course not. Always go easy on the new members. Maybe he thought that the changes were improving the page? I'll let him explain himself.
9. You make a mistake, copying an article from the STV website onto a Wikipedia article. What can you do?
Run away and hide under my bed? Lol, nah, I would just undo my edits. Considering my answer to the second question, this scenario won't happen.
10. You see an obviously vandalized article on something you know nothing about. Do you change it back again? Explain
Probably not. I'm not here to act like a Wikipedia cop, Matty. Just minding my own business. :)
Oscar, that is not acting like a 'Wikipedia cop', it is being helpful. If something is obviously vandalism, such as this, (see left article, second line, middle) then it is actually helping Wikipedia get rid of vandalism.
Any questions?
Yeah, what made you change your mind about adopting me? Just curious...
Well, I haven't been here too long myself, but like to think I have learnt some things! I was originally just going to take on Dansong, but changed my mind as I thought that it could be fun!
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Five Pillars of Wikipedia
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| Congratulations on completing the lesson on the Five Pillars of Wikipedia! You're one step closer to graduation! |
Feel free to post this on your user page! Matty.007 17:34, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
First Assignment[edit]
Please now try and find an edit, or indeed article, which doesn't obey one of the rules. Please post a link to that page's history, and revert the edit, or if the article needs deleting, just post the link, there are special gadgets to delete pages. You may find this helpful.
Thanks,Matty.007 17:34, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Hey, I removed information that didn't obey to the second pillar (didn't have verifiable sources to support the stated facts). Here's the edit I made: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nanette_Fabray&diff=558324297&oldid=553440563
Nanette Fabray was not in that silent film. OscarLake (talk) 18:23, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Well done!
Feel free to put this on your user page...
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Award of First Success | |
| Well done OscarLake, you successfully completed your first assignment! Matty.007 18:39, 4 June 2013 (UTC) |
Awesome :) OscarLake (talk) 18:52, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Editing Articles[edit]
I know you have already been editing a few months, but I hope you don't mind going over how to edit/create pages.
First off, anyone can edit Wikipedia. This means that we get a fair amount of vandalism, and good faith edits. However, you cannot edit all pages, such as here. This is as if they were available to edit, they would get too much vandalism to handle. This category also includes the home page. There are some useful gadgets when you edit, and the ones I have turned on are Twinkle, Hotcat and Page Curation.
Ones I would recommend that you use are Hotcat and Twinkle. They can be turned on by going next to your name at the top of the page, and click on preferences. Then click on the heading gadgets. However, this is not a necessity.
When you are editing, it is best to give edits a name, and if they are only small, click on the minor edit box. If you are working on a page for a while, and have to come back to it, put the {{In use}} tag on it. Make sure you always cite your sources!
Twinkle
Twinkle is a gadget which is used generally in roleback, that is, taking pages back to the state they were in before an edit. It also has some useful templates, such as welcome ones and warning ones.
Hotcat
Hotcat is a gadget used to easily add categories to pages.
Matty.007 19:03, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Any questions?
Questions[edit]
1. Where can you make pages without creating the actual Wikipedia page for the article?
You do like the kids do, and play in the sandbox, lol. Or you could just start a subpage in your userspace.
2. How do you create a new section in an article?
You click "Edit", then you put 2 of these symbols on each side of the section name ---> =
Just like you did on this section called "Questions".
Yes, you put == either side of the text you want big.
Second Assignment[edit]
1. Find an article which should have had a {{In Use}} tag and post the address here
The user Nmk829 should probably have used that template in this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=UEFA_Euro_2012_qualifying&dir=prev&offset=20100907205924&action=history
2. Find three Hotcat/Twinkle edits (it says in the edit description) and post the history pages here
* User Ser Amantio di Nicolao used HotCat to add a category: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lia_Marie_Johnson&diff=557742373&oldid=557742314
* User Milowent rollbacked to the last cited version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Annoying_Orange&diff=558286468&oldid=359750928
* User Koavf removed a category using HotCat: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_members_of_the_Pan-African_Parliament&diff=557742998&oldid=495272990
3. Add three categories to an article (preferably using Hotcat, but not definitely) and post the address here
Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shep_Houghton&action=history
4. Find an edit which should have ha
Sorry, but I have no idea what you mean by this :p
- Sorry!
Cleanup[edit]
The Random article button (located in your left-hand sidebar menu) is very useful for locating articles that are in need of improvement (although I find that often you get a random article on either an unheard of village in the mountains of Pakistan or a little-known Eastern European football team...). However, there are easier ways to locate articles that need attention.
When editors come across a page that needs to be improved but they are unable to do so themselves (due to time constraints, lack of sources or just because they don't feel like it) they will often tag it with a cleanup tag. As well as placing a notice at the top of the page to say what needs doing, this also has the effect of listing the article in one of several cleanup categories. You can access most of these categories here.
What I'd like you to do is this: First, locate an article in need of cleanup. I'd suggest something fairly straightforward, like a page that needs copyediting for spelling and grammar (there's a full list of pages tagged thus here). Make three improvements to the page; these can be minor changes to word order, wikilinks, punctuation or typo fixes, I'm not fussed. When you've done this post a link to the article here - type the page name and enclose it in double square brackets, like this: [[Name of page]].
Now go to the page Commonly misspelled words and select a word from the list there. Put the incorrect spelling of the word into the Wikipedia search bar at the top right, prefacing it with a single tilde, like this "~mispeling". The tilde means that, rather than searching for an article titled "Mispeling", the search engine will instead return a list of pages which contain the word "mispeling". You can now open each of these in turn, locate the typo, and change it to the correct spelling. Post here when you've fixed three typos in this way.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
1. I changed 3 movie titles that were redlinked, and made them blue by writing the correct names. List of films based on actual events
2. I chose the word "perceive/percieve" and corrected it in these articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Louis_Thomas_Villaret_de_Joyeuse&diff=prev&oldid=559032469
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anti-Catalanism&diff=prev&oldid=559032798
OscarLake (talk) 08:58, 9 June 2013 (UTC)OscarLake
Etiquette[edit]
Etiquette is described as "the customary code of polite behaviour in society or among members of a particular profession or group". This code of conduct is true of Wikipedia, also, and has a few basics, which I shall lay out:
- Assume good faith-if in doubt whether an edit is vandalism, good faith should always be assumed, no matter how small the doubt
- Treat others as you would have them treat you—even if they are new, slightly relating to the good faith rule, be polite and try and be nice to other users
- Do not engage in edit wars, using edits to make points to other editors. A rule to be aware of is the 3RR-the three revert rule. This states that if you revert part of an article, "in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material, on a single page within a 24-hour period" (or just outside) then you can expect punishment, or a warning
- Forgive and forget-if someone has reverted your edit, and you disagree with them, just forget about it rather than bringing it up against them in future
- Give praise where it is due-if you see an editor doing outstanding work, give him some WikiLove, or a barnstar
- Be bold, or "just do it"-this refers to updating the encyclopedia
Fourth Assignment[edit]
Find one edit which was/should have been assumed as good faith
Give someone some WikiLove (or a barnstar)
Here's the edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vondell_Darr&diff=558817505&oldid=546695728
And here's the reaction to that edit (user Technopat acknowledged it as good faith): http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vondell_Darr&diff=559641895&oldid=558817505
OscarLake (talk) 09:21, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Ignoring Rules[edit]
This topic is quite a simple one:if a rule is preventing you from doing something beneficial to Wikipedia, then simply ignore it! However, it is not to be done merely as a prank or because you can. You may find this essay, originally started by GTBacchus, and has since been expanded upon. There is no task for this topic, but please let me know when you have read the essay, or the important parts of it.
Thanks, Matty.007 18:41, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
P.S. You have been with me for a couple of weeks now. Any questions about anything, such as Talkback, Twinkle, etc.?
- I've read it now and I agree with the text, Wikipedia shouldn't be limited by absolute sets of rules. Also, Wikipedia isn't printed on paper, so I'm definitly an "inclusionist" when it comes to articles.
- So far, I haven't felt the need to use Twinkle, but I understand its different functions and concepts. Same thing with Talkback, I guess. Btw, I keep this page on my Watchlist so I immediately notice when you write something here. So don't feel obligated to use Talkback to get my attention.
- Do I have other questions? Well, the only thing I'm struggling with so far is references and inline citations. You know the symbol that's like an upside down V? How do you get that? Then they have these small letters next to it; for example a, b, c, d.
- I've created 4 articles so far, so I'm quickly learning new stuff....Wait, I've got another question: Would an article about the oldest living Swedish person be put for AfD or would she be considered notable enough? And one last question (while I'm at it): Would this list be considered OR? ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:OscarLake/Living_Hollywood_actors_with_the_earliest_screen_debuts
1. I use Provelt for adding references, as it automatically inputs the info you have given it into Wikipedia jargon. However, sources, wherever possible, have to come from a reliable website, typically a news website, such as the BBC, and citations are needed for anything likely to be challenged.
2. It depends. If said person has received attention from world media, or publishers, or any other reliable source, and as the page about it puts it, the subject must "have gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time". As for your list, in my opinion, it is a little like a trivia article. However, I asked around, and GorillaWarfare said "It's definitely interesting, but the fact that it's _entirely_ referenced to IMDB is an issue", and compared it to this. I have taken the liberty of fixing the first ten refs, so if you don't like it then say. However, the issue was raised of all your sources being from IMDb
Yeah, the IMDb links were not supposed to be the sole source and my list is far from finished at the moment. This might take a while, lol...Do you think I should remove the current references and replace with more reliable sources, or should I keep the IMDb ones as complement to the others? Also, does the TCM website work as a reliable enough source? Matty, feel free to edit my list anyway you want, a little help never hurts. I'll be putting new references on the talkpage of the list page to make things easier for me, so you can check it out if you want. Btw, tell GorillaWarfare that I appreciate his feedback as well. Ciao! OscarLake (talk) 22:40, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi Oscar, do you use Provelt yet (enabled in options)? I find it a very good way to add references, so your created articles don't get a link rot tag. However, I think that TCM is a good supplementary source. Also, GorillaWarfare is a woman, it is probably best if you don't presume all Wikipedians are male! I will try and help when I can with the sources... Matty.007 18:38, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
Would you look at that....she is indeed a woman :) An administrator as well! But to my defence, none of the females I know are into Wikipedia editing. It's always nice to see some refreshing exceptions around here. Anyways, back on topic...No, I haven't used Provelt yet; I've done the whole thing manually so far. I gotta say, I'll probably be forced to omit a lot of names. For some of them, I can prove that they were in a certain film, but I can't prove that it was their first role. There just aren't that many reliable sources out there.
Four random off topic questions:
1. Can a screenshot from a public domain film be used as a picture here without worrying about copyright?
2. Do you use the new VisualEditor or do you edit normally?
3. Is there an undo-button for when you edit? I mean, let's say that I accidentally delete a sentence I wrote and didn't save it. Can it be retrieved again?
4. I checked your other adoptee's page (Dansong) and he seems to be struggling a bit with the task. My idea is that you give him a link to a page that, in some way, disobeys one of the 5 pillars. Then it's up to him to identify that flaw and fix it. Because randomly searching for inadequate articles can be quite the task! Even with the news feed page. OscarLake (talk) 23:27, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- On the upload wizard for pictures, there is a link to this. It says "we can't accept work created or inspired by both:screenshots of TV shows, movies, DVDs and software". However, I haven't uploaded any pictures, so am unaware of the general standard, but going by that, it looks like a no-no.
- I don't fully understand VisualEditor, but plan to have a look soon, but I don't use it at the minute.
- If you don't preview, then click Ctl and Z at the same time. This will undo the last thing you have done.
- Yes, that is probably a good idea. I will have a look tomorrow. Matty.007 18:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Help![edit]
OK, so that link is to the Beatles song. But on Wikipedia, there are times when you need some help. I thought it may be good to do this towards the beginning of the course, as otherwise you will be a perfect Wikipedian never needing help... Anyway, so there are several ways to get help on Wikipedia:
- Go onto the Internet Relay Chat at this link connect. You don't have to use your Wikipedia log in, but it is best to. I try and help out there sometimes too, so you might see me there.
- Put {{Help me}} on your talk page, and some helpful people will come and assist you (make sure to include your question).
- See if it is at the FAQs.
- Or look for something more specific here.
Please post if you have understood it... Matty.007 12:40, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Fifth Assignment[edit]
An easy one this week, simply log onto the IRC link I gave you. Matty.007 12:40, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- I thought I forgot something... I am generally on at various times from 10 UTC to 8 UTC, but not continually. You get used to it if you go there a bit. And yes, the Teahouse is a very good option, where there are several good editors helping out. Matty.007 09:53, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- Cool! Speaking of help, do you know how to deal with links that have this symbol in it? ---> |
- I thought I forgot something... I am generally on at various times from 10 UTC to 8 UTC, but not continually. You get used to it if you go there a bit. And yes, the Teahouse is a very good option, where there are several good editors helping out. Matty.007 09:53, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
I can't seem to use it as a reference in some of my sources. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:OscarLake/Living_Hollywood_actors_with_the_earliest_screen_debuts OscarLake (talk) 17:32, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I forgot to reply. However, I found a solution. Here's one of the links: http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/person/185047%7C37263/Dean-Stockwell/filmography.html If you click on it, then the % symbol will be replaced with |
So I figured I'd just replace the | with a % Confusing, ain't it? :p OscarLake (talk) 15:31, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Yup, the problem is solved! But thanks anyways. OscarLake (talk) 21:22, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Gadgets[edit]
Gadgets can save lots of time when editing, so I will go over the main types of gadget:
Reference gadgets[edit]
You have figured out how to put in simple references, and I see that on the articles you are editing that your citations are good. However, there are special gadgets that can be turned on it 'Preferences', or by putting some words into your CS script (please don't ask me any technical questions on this, I have no idea how it works). I use ProveIt GT for my references, as all you have to do is fill in a table.
Browsing[edit]
Gadgets that modify how you look at pages, such as a look at a blue linked articles, a gadget to do tedious jobs such as AfD and CSD, and gadgets that let you see the full extent of the information of in article references.
Watchlist[edit]
As it sounds, these gadgets modify how you view your watchlist.
Editing[edit]
These gadgets do things from removing VE from editing to a gadget for inputting categories to (if you generally do work at AFC) one to review pending Articles for Creation submissions.
The other categories, which don't affect Wikipedia usage so much are Appearance, Compatibility, and Advanced.
Sixth Assignment[edit]
Try out two new gadgets, and leave links here telling me which gadgets you decided to try out. I am going on holiday, so your next assignment will be in a few weeks. Thanks, Matty.007 16:17, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- I've tried the following 2 gadgets now:
- 1. Watchlist changes shown in bold, rather than the green bullet.
- 2. The "yet another AFC helper script" for reviewing Articles for Creation.
- Btw how was your holiday, Matty? OscarLake (talk) 04:25, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- Good thanks. The Channel Islands are always nice. I will probably put up the next thing at the weekend. You go anywhere? Matty.007 18:10, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
- Nope, not this summer. Maybe next year. Hey, I saw Fort Esc's adoption page. Nice to have another fellow adoptee. Now I can compare our answers. :p OscarLake (talk) 07:18, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- Or I may do different things, or at different times.... Matty.007 16:06, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'm really sorry, but for reasons in 'real life', I will not be on Wikipedia so much for the next week or so. Apologies, Matty.007 16:15, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
- Nope, not this summer. Maybe next year. Hey, I saw Fort Esc's adoption page. Nice to have another fellow adoptee. Now I can compare our answers. :p OscarLake (talk) 07:18, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- Good thanks. The Channel Islands are always nice. I will probably put up the next thing at the weekend. You go anywhere? Matty.007 18:10, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey, I replied on my talkpage.OscarLake (talk) 23:22, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, so I don't get confused, here is the post from your talk: "Hey, Matt. I've started editing more frequently now. Today, I created two new articles. When's the next assignment coming? OscarLake (talk) 23:25, 4 November 2013 (UTC)"
New page patrol[edit]
You have already found the new pages feed (one of them, they have different layouts) which I prefer, but I think that there is one/two other pages. What happens in the new page patrol is where pages are tagged if they have issues (the banners, e.g. 'Not English' tag here here), or tagged for Speedy deletion/AFD/PRODed or PRODed for being a new BLP with no references. Sorry for the list of types of deletion, but it is necessary for new page patrol.
With the new pages feed, there are some articles with a red '!' in a circle on the left, which means they are unreviewed. If you click on one, it opens in a new tab, and see the bar below. It will usually be on the top right, but can be bottom left. The small 'x' at the top has been replaced with an arrow, which when clicked closes the bar (don't do this, annoying to try and re-open). The 'i' is metadata, which isn't really needed for patrol, just a summary of notable times in the page (as far as I can gather). The heart sends wikilove, e.g. food/drink/kittens/barnstars for the quality of the page. The tick marks the page as reviewed, if there are no issues. The tag sign is to add tags to the article for issues (don't do what I originally did and overtag articles). The bin is for deleting for whatever reason. The fast forward button is to go onto the next page in the queue of new pages.
Important points to remember:
- Don't bite new editors if they make mistakes, gently correct them
- Don't CSD articles if unsure
- If article may be improved, don't CSD it straight away
- Feel free to talk to the user who created the page
- (If it has over 1500 bytes of readable prose, it can be nominated for DYK)
- If the article has no content at all, wait ~10 minutes to CSD it
- Feel free to have a look at Wikipedia:New pages patrol
Sorry if the set up above is unclear.
Assignment 1[edit]
Review five articles, and link them. This includes adding tags, but not deleting, as I cannot see deleted pages. If you are unsure about anything, either ask or leave it alone. Good luck. (Feel free to do more than 5 if you enjoy it, but the more you do the more chance there is for something to go wrong.)
- There will not be anything new for a little while whilst I standardise the adoption course. If you want to see my progress, go to here. Thanks, Matty.007 20:40, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- Matt, unfortunately I don't have a computer at the moment so I have to put Wiki editing aside for the moment. When things clear up, I'll finish the assignments. Btw, thanks for the christmas greeting. Hope you'll have an awesome winter holiday as well! OscarLake (talk) 14:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- Btw, don't forget the FIFA World Cup 2014 draw today in 1-2 hours if you're interested.
- No problem, that fits in with me trying to make a standard adoption course. I wasn't sure when the draw was, but am definitely interested now that you say! Thanks, Matty.007 17:07, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hey, Matt. After some consideration, I've decided to quit the adoption "school". You probably saw it coming due to my seemingly nonchalant behaviour these few months. Sorry about that. The reason for this is that I'm happy with the basic Wikipedia knowledge that I already have gained. I don't feel as new and lost as I did in June. Thanks for everything, you've been a big help and I'm sure we'll keep in touch every now and then. Cheers! OscarLake (talk) 22:42, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
- No problem, that fits in with me trying to make a standard adoption course. I wasn't sure when the draw was, but am definitely interested now that you say! Thanks, Matty.007 17:07, 6 December 2013 (UTC)