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Not sure how active you are, but I filed an SPI. I think the information is quite definitive. --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:21, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Kansas Bear! I'm active, just been really busy with work, life, being an adult... Raking a bunch of leaves in the yard, then I gotta keep the truck maintained and the oil fresh, then projects and other fun stuff at work... Yeah, good times. Life is boring, but I'm happy and I'm fine. ;-) Looks like it was a solid case... It was confirmed by a checkuser, issue resolved - well done! Keep up the great work! And, of course, if you run into any questions or need anything, rest assured, I'm here. Don't be afraid to hit me up and ask - I'll be happy to answer them and give you a hand. Always happy to help! :-) Cheers! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- How do I add an IP editing(ie. Aydın memmedov2000 editing logged out) to an archived sockpuppet case? --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:38, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - Why would you want to add this to an SPI archive page? Is this a new user and new evidence, or a user and evidence that wasn't included in a previous SPI report that should've been listed? If it's the former, file a new SPI report. If it's the latter, let me know and I can just add that user to the suspected sockpuppets list for you. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:48, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- It is a new user, new evidence. --Kansas Bear (talk) 10:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Done. I guess if they would implement a 500/30 over the AA2 area it would cut down on the sockpuppetry and/or SPIs.--Kansas Bear (talk) 13:56, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - Awesome, thanks for creating that SPI report! Just for future reference: You'll always want to create a new SPI case in order to report a new sock user or submit new evidence; you don't want to add new information to any archived cases. Each case that is opened against the same sock master will eventually be closed (regardless of the outcome), and from there, they are archived for record-keeping and for tracking purposes. Essentially, if you add a new sock user or evidence to an archived case, unless someone happens to catch it and revert your edit and realize what you're trying to do, ideally nothing at all will happen... since the case is archived, and only closed cases that are resolved become archived. ;-) Anyways, just wanted to explain how that all works and to let you know. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:55, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Probably a good idea to educate someone of my age in such matters. I do not file many SPIs or that often. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - No worries at all, my friend! You did the right thing by coming to me and asking for help when you were unsure as to exactly what to do. As always, I'm happy to help; don't be a stranger if you run into any more questions. ;-) Until next time - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Probably a good idea to educate someone of my age in such matters. I do not file many SPIs or that often. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - Awesome, thanks for creating that SPI report! Just for future reference: You'll always want to create a new SPI case in order to report a new sock user or submit new evidence; you don't want to add new information to any archived cases. Each case that is opened against the same sock master will eventually be closed (regardless of the outcome), and from there, they are archived for record-keeping and for tracking purposes. Essentially, if you add a new sock user or evidence to an archived case, unless someone happens to catch it and revert your edit and realize what you're trying to do, ideally nothing at all will happen... since the case is archived, and only closed cases that are resolved become archived. ;-) Anyways, just wanted to explain how that all works and to let you know. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:55, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - Why would you want to add this to an SPI archive page? Is this a new user and new evidence, or a user and evidence that wasn't included in a previous SPI report that should've been listed? If it's the former, file a new SPI report. If it's the latter, let me know and I can just add that user to the suspected sockpuppets list for you. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:48, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- How do I add an IP editing(ie. Aydın memmedov2000 editing logged out) to an archived sockpuppet case? --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:38, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protection request for Tutnese
Hello, I was looking through the edit history for the article Tutnese, because the page has been subject to persistent vandalism by IP users and single-purpose accounts over the past year. I noticed that you implemented a limited-duration semi-protection on the page that expired last August. Since then, the page has been vandalized at least once each month. It doesn't seem like a page that has a dedicated editor who acts as custodian, so would you please consider reinstating the semi-protection, perhaps for a longer duration (if not permanently)? Thank you! CoatGuy2 (talk) 00:23, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) @CoatGuy2: It seems that this Admin is away. Pages are not protected pre-emptively. You can also request page protection at WP:RPP. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 00:35, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi CoatGuy2, FlightTime! Good to see you both! Don't worry, I'm around; life, work, yard work, winter, electric bills... yeah, I've been busy. ;-) CoatGuy2 - Like FlightTime said above, we protect pages and articles in a reactive measure, not in a pre-emptive measure.
- There are, of course, extremely rare cases where I have protected articles in a pre-emptive measure. This only occurs when the sign is very clear, and the probability of imminent mass vandalism and destruction by a numerous amount of users is extremely high. The last time I remember doing this was on the Donald Trump article and shortly after either his election was confirmed or when an extremely controversial action occurred that he ordered - I think it was his election... Basically, in a situation where you know for almost 100% certainty that the article is going to be absolutely crapped on (to say it nicely) and by thousands of people. I fully protected that article, and mass amounts of damage was already starting to occur. That was a case where I ignored the pre-emptivity rule and did what I felt was right thing to do for the project at that time. Fun fact: I got a lot of nasty emails and death threats over that. Oh well, it's the internet, and people will be people on the internet... Good times... ;-)
- Your case here obviously doesn't fit into that category. :-) I understand that the article has been subject to a lot of vandalism in the past, which we obviously try to handle and enforce to the best of our ability. However, if the article has only been vandalized at a rate of one occurrence per month, that rate honestly doesn't even make me bat an eye. Articles will be vandalized, and it happens everywhere. If I semi-protected every article that was vandalized at least one time every month over the last few months, I'd be semi-protecting at least 3,075,227 articles (that's exactly half of all of the articles that the English Wikipedia currently has published and live at the time of this writing) - just to give you some perspective. ;-). That obviously would be crazy to do, and I'd... yeah, I'd probably... No, I'd definitely get into a lot of trouble if I were to do that. ;-) There would at least be an ANI case opened with a bunch of editors with their arms in the air asking "WHAT THE HECK, OSHWAH?!!" :-)
- Relax, don't worry. When you see it happen, revert the edit, warn the user, and move on. If the vandalism and disruption on the article starts to occur at a very high rate, and by many different users, this is a situation where semi-protection (or another level) will be considered and placed. But at this rate... No, protection isn't needed right now. Feat not! We're here, and we're happy to help, but we have policies and rules to follow in these situations. If things get really bad, request protection here, or let me know (requesting will probably be handled faster if I happen to be away). Also please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-)
- FlightTime - Thanks for responding while I was away! :-) Cheers, everyone! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:05, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Anytime :) Thank you for what you do. - FlightTime (open channel) 05:37, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- FlightTime - You bet, and same to you as well! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:46, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Anytime :) Thank you for what you do. - FlightTime (open channel) 05:37, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Article s6 (init)
Good morning Oshwah. This article s6 (init) is as a draft, I think it should be published because it is relevant to the world of operating systems. Thank you very much. --Rstmnq1000 (talk) 02:11, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Rstmnq1000! Hmm, this seems like a promising article subject if it is significant and has a high impact on Linux/Unix programming and Operating System use (whether it be through critical operations, daemons, or other significant use - you indicated that this is an init process that is used when booting). To get this draft to pass, I would expand the body of the draft article. Where is it significant? How is it used? What does it do? Exactly what Linux/Unix projects/forks use this and why? You need to show, with reliable sources that this article subject has a credible claim of significance. Read through that page, so that you'll understand what credible claim of significance means; it will help you to build the draft and get it to a level where it is accepted. If you have questions, you can ask the user that declined your draft (Greenman). This user (just like all reviewers) are trained and qualified in regards to understanding Wikipedia's relevant policies on acceptable articles and creation, and they'll be happy to help you. I, of course, will be happy to help you as well - just ask. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:20, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Doug Weller - Received and replied. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:11, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
irc 24/7?
How? Anyway, I can't get on using Mirc, something to do with not having STL I think. Doug Weller talk 11:48, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Doug Weller - Since you're trying to connect using Mirc, I assume that you're running a Windows-based Operating System (likely Windows 10, maybe Windows 11 if your unlucky enough... lol). When you set up the server to connect to in Mirc, are you setting the host to "irc.libera.chat" and the port number to 6697 and with TLS enabled? Does it connect you to the server okay, then disconnect you from the server shortly afterwards, or are you getting errors when just trying to connect to the server at all? What error messages (if any) are you receiving? As a first troubleshooting step, try just setting the port number to a plain-text (unencrypted) channel such as 6667 and then try again. This just might be something as simple as having TLS or encryption set correctly. ;-) Let me know how things go and what your IRC client does when you try to connect; I'll be happy to help you out. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:23, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I may try that tomorrow. Doug Weller talk 19:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Doug Weller - Sure, you bet. Keep me posted. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:11, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Also, Quassel is a decent modern open source client that supports Windows, in case you'd like to try it. —PaleoNeonate – 23:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I may try that tomorrow. Doug Weller talk 19:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
your message
It wasn't me I have never visited that page. Please don't bother me again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.70.246.171 (talk) 18:39, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- That message was left on the IP address that you're using, and it was left over five years ago. I think you're safe to ignore the warning that I left and carry on with your day as usual. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
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However little these messages mean to a 15 year editor. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 13:41, 10 February 2022 (UTC) |
- Hi AssumeGoodWraith! Long time no chat! I hope you're doing well! Thanks for taking the time to leave me this barnstar! It means a lot to me, and I appreciate it very much. I hope that life is treating you kindly, and that you're staying safe and keeping yourself healthy. Keep in touch, okay? :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:51, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Typo: like → life. --CiaPan (talk) 14:39, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- CiaPan - HA! Good find. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:42, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Only a matter of days before I contract that thing. Anyways, I think I have definitely reached the good side of the community here. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 04:37, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- AssumeGoodWraith - Well, I sure hope you don't catch the bubonic plague. Awesome, that's great to hear! It feels good when you know that you're generally seen by the community as "one of the good guys". :-) Getting oneself to that level of global community trust and respect can be extremely hard, if not impossible for some editors to achieve (either due to ongoing issues, past mistakes, or their history of disruption, incivility, or disputes). It's something that you should definitely not take for granted. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:08, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- I wonder how hard it is to at least be civil sometimes for others. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 05:22, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- AssumeGoodWraith - If you're looking for a neutral and unbiased answer to that question: In my experience on Wikipedia and my collective observations of other editors in regards to civility and "how easy or difficult" that following the policy can be, I can say that this "difficulty" is often variable and dependent on each user's personality, and their individual level of tolerance, patience, and motivations. It also varies depending on each user's level of emotional intelligence, and their ability to control and keep their emotions in-check, and to not allow heated or unhappy feelings of emotion to control or drive how they interpret messages and situations, and how they communicate, comment, respond, and discus topics with other contributors.
- I wonder how hard it is to at least be civil sometimes for others. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 05:22, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- AssumeGoodWraith - Well, I sure hope you don't catch the bubonic plague. Awesome, that's great to hear! It feels good when you know that you're generally seen by the community as "one of the good guys". :-) Getting oneself to that level of global community trust and respect can be extremely hard, if not impossible for some editors to achieve (either due to ongoing issues, past mistakes, or their history of disruption, incivility, or disputes). It's something that you should definitely not take for granted. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:08, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Typo: like → life. --CiaPan (talk) 14:39, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- If you're looking for my personal opinion on the matter, my answer is very simple: Keeping your actions, comments, messages, discussions, and responses 100% civil and 100% positive and respectful toward all other users on Wikipedia - regardless of the situation, the discussion, whether the other user's intentions are in good faith or in bad faith, whatever... It's not a difficult thing to do. Not at all. After all, this is a website, and we are on the internet... There shouldn't be more that needs to be said. ;-)
- If you allow asshats and trolls to get under your skin and drive yourself to fend them off with insults, profanity, and rage - then it is you that is ultimately what's causing the problem. Why? Because you are the one who is feeding the trolls by expressing your anger and fit of range; by doing this, you're giving them exactly what they want, and on top of that, you are giving them exponentially more motivation to keep up what they're doing, because you're showing them that what they're doing is affecting you. Never ever feed the trolls! Did you grow up with an older brother? Did he ever repeatedly keep poking you or teasing you over and over again, like in the car on a long road trip or something like that? He kept poking you because you were likely reacting to his behavior by yelling at him to "cut it out!". What's the correct solution here? It's easy: If you just ignore what they're doing, they'll eventually get bored of it, they'll lose the motivation to keep doing it, and they'll stop. ;-)
- Anyways, I'm digressing here, and I apologize. ;-) I hope that I at least somewhat-adequately answered your question... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:07, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- The trolls aren't a problem, I could honestly care less. Patrolling recent changes attracts that stuff. It would probably be a lot worse if it was a regular doing it (although I can't really say I had a situation that bad). Also, I do grow up with an older brother, and I'm pretty sure I do remember him doing stuff like that. I was obviously too young to know how to respond. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 06:38, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Unrelated question: how do I make a random list of drafts in AWB? I remember doing it before, and the filter button only applies to the currently made list. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 06:39, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- AssumeGoodWraith - I'm not familiar with AWB, nor have I ever used it beyond spending maybe two minutes taking a look at it out of simple curiosity. However, despite having pretty much never touched it before, I decided to just download it and see if I couldn't figure out the answer to your question. It's actually not very hard to do. ;-) Take a look at this screenshot that I just uploaded for you. Basically, you choose "Special page", then click on "Make list". A window then appears. Select "Random page" as your source, select "Draft:" as the namespace, then press "OK". Voila! Your list of random draft pages is generated! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:25, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- And now I see the excess of drafts without the template. I must have done something wrong last time. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 12:45, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- AssumeGoodWraith - I'm not familiar with AWB, nor have I ever used it beyond spending maybe two minutes taking a look at it out of simple curiosity. However, despite having pretty much never touched it before, I decided to just download it and see if I couldn't figure out the answer to your question. It's actually not very hard to do. ;-) Take a look at this screenshot that I just uploaded for you. Basically, you choose "Special page", then click on "Make list". A window then appears. Select "Random page" as your source, select "Draft:" as the namespace, then press "OK". Voila! Your list of random draft pages is generated! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:25, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Unrelated question: how do I make a random list of drafts in AWB? I remember doing it before, and the filter button only applies to the currently made list. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 06:39, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- The trolls aren't a problem, I could honestly care less. Patrolling recent changes attracts that stuff. It would probably be a lot worse if it was a regular doing it (although I can't really say I had a situation that bad). Also, I do grow up with an older brother, and I'm pretty sure I do remember him doing stuff like that. I was obviously too young to know how to respond. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 06:38, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Anyways, I'm digressing here, and I apologize. ;-) I hope that I at least somewhat-adequately answered your question... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:07, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thanks Oshwah! BeeTime (talk) 02:41, 11 February 2022 (UTC) |
- Hi BeeTime! Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for the barnstar! I'm glad that you decided to create an account and join us as a Wikipedian! If you haven't done so already, I highly recommend that you give Wikipedia's getting started page a visit and a read-through. Another excellent and helpful place that you should go through and complete is Wikipedia's new user tutorial. It will interactively have you perform edits, navigate around the site, and show you where important and useful tools and functions are on Wikipedia. Give them both a good read-through, and they both will provide you with a lot of very helpful information to get you started and put you on a path toward quickly becoming proficient and familiar with how everything works. :-) Of course, if you run into any questions or if you need any help, please don't be a stranger! Just leave me a message here, and I'll be happy to lend you a hand. Again, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope that you take of your jacket, pull up a chair, and that you stay awhile. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:14, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Is Negus Mine factually accurate?
The only two references lack a URL. 207.81.187.41 (talk) 05:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for the message! Keep in mind that references that are reliable do not have to be electronic, published using a modern technology or method, or available on the internet. They can be books, peer-reviewed journals, medical documents, recorded scientific observations, the list goes on! However, if you do have a concern about these references, don't be afraid to navigate to the article's talk page and start a discussion expressing your concerns. If anything, other editors can offer you input, or work together with you in order to find better ones. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:10, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
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- NonsensicalSystem - Received, handled, and replied. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:31, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
You've got mail...
... from Abraham Lincoln. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 13:39, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Iggy the Swan - Received and replied. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:35, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see a reply from you at this moment unless that refers to the one sent earlier this month. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 06:52, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Iggy the Swan - Oh, sorry... That was me catching up with my messages. This was in reference to my original response to you. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:07, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see a reply from you at this moment unless that refers to the one sent earlier this month. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 06:52, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
What is the best way
Hi there. You gave me some advice several years ago, and as we have a saying "help the man in need, and he will gladly remember you when he is in the need again", I have a new question, if you have time. The article Pančevački Rit (and apparently some others) has been heavily edited by this editor [1]. The language is very bad (worse even than mine on a very bad day), it is a mixture of German, Serbian and English, the style is even worse, it is disrupting the article. The data itself appears to be part of editor's family history, and, in this case, is barely connected to the article because 95% of what he is adding, didn't even happen in the region which is the topic of the article. He uses "praiseworthy" to describe some Nazis, but it may be the bad use of English (maybe he means notable, well known). I checked a bit, and I think this is also he: [2], [3], [4]. Now, I would either engage or report him, but based on what and how he is writing, I believe this is actually this guy, User_talk:AustrianFreedom. Now, I don't know if this fits in the sockpuppetry either, as he is not creating new profiles, and seems to choose not to use one IP address for many articles, or use several to add to one article. What should be the best course of action here? I already deleted once stuff from the article, should I do it again and trigger the 3RR? Cheers PajaBG (talk) 21:57, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi PajaBG! Wow, this IP user added a lot of content to Pančevački Rit. The added content does reference some books at the end of some paragraphs, but I don't know how far back these references refer to. I would assume that previous sentences not cited by references are hence unreferenced, and should be treated this way. What specific evidence do you have that this IP user (212.186.76.105) might also be 2001:4BB8:188:5015:6419:5AD1:F688:8518, KPHaggerty, (you added a diff link to this user's talk page - I'm assuming that you also believe this user might be this IP as well?) 84.114.224.212, or AustrianFreedom? The more information, diffs, and in-depth details you can provide will be very helpful. To answer your question - No. Do not violate 3RR if the user is restoring what you're removing. Unreferenced content is not vandalism (which is exempt from 3RR or edit warring) if the fact that it's unreferenced is the only issue with the content in itself. Also, it is not a violation of 3RR if you're spanning the removals over multiple edits, so long as another user isn't reverting any of your changes and putting content back. If you're finding that the user is reverting your edits and restoring the content, you should ask for help or report the issue on the appropriate noticeboard. Use common sense and use your best judgment, but do not let yourself get sucked into the "edit warring pitfall", which is easy to do (from personal experience lol). Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to discuss them with you. If you could get back to me with that in-depth evidence that I'm requesting, I'd appreciate it. There's no rush on that request - take all the time you need to put together evidence that is complete, in-depth, well-explained, and supported by diff links. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:13, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Super Bowl LVI Matchup Rams Vs Bengals
HI Oshwah how you doing Are you going to watch the big game tomorrow on NBC Super Bowl LVI The Bengals vs Rams is going to be a good super bowl matchup i'm watching it Are you. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 00:18, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi there! I'll be working, but I have it recorded, so I'll watch it when I get home tonight. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:34, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
I've always wondered why this page is a red link every time I looked at your talk page. Did someone malicious use the old oversight to delete every 2013 revision? Did the database crash and irrecoverably overwrite its own ones and zeros because someone changed the "size" in the file structure from 1 GB to 2 TB (i.e. Wikimedia Foundation got scammed when they bought the servers)? Will this page ever exist? 207.81.187.41 (talk) 08:29, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- (by talk page stalker) As you can see in the talk page history LINK, there were no significant changes to this talk in 2013. CiaPan (talk) 12:23, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Good call. I should probably just remove that link... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:33, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- ...or add a page under the link, saying something like "Nothing important to archive happened in 2013
' so that people won't start to ask "why is the 2013 missing in your archives?"
(talk page stalker) CiaPan (talk) 08:46, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- ...or add a page under the link, saying something like "Nothing important to archive happened in 2013
Block evasion by an anonymous editor
You blocked 24.78.140.235 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) for a year on 2022-01-10T01:56:04. One of the editor's main points of contention was the genre on This Is Not the End (Manafest album). A new editor, with the same rationale as 24.78.140.235, same capitalization of genres, and the same ISP has returned: 24.78.138.224 (talk · contribs · WHOIS).
- New editor: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=This_Is_Not_the_End_(Manafest_album)&diff=1071729279&oldid=1068488303
- Old editor
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=This_Is_Not_the_End_(Manafest_album)&diff=1064014356&oldid=1064011604
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=This_Is_Not_the_End_(Manafest_album)&diff=1064020766&oldid=1064020486
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=This_Is_Not_the_End_(Manafest_album)&diff=1064008398&oldid=1063939753
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=This_Is_Not_the_End_(Manafest_album)&diff=1063629577&oldid=1063626323
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=This_Is_Not_the_End_(Manafest_album)&diff=1063624534&oldid=1063623478
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=This_Is_Not_the_End_(Manafest_album)&diff=1063620683&oldid=1063316773
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=This_Is_Not_the_End_(Manafest_album)&diff=1063312880&oldid=1045831031
Shall I take this to SPI (which has been a notoriously difficult place for me to get a block on an IP based on another blocked IP) or would you like to address it? Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:39, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Walter Görlitz! Thanks for the message and for letting me know about this. These two IP addresses are from two different ranges under the same ISP and location (24.78.140.0/22 and 24.78.136.0/22). Based off of the similar edits to the same pages, and the fact that these two IP addresses are operated by the same ISP and location - it's pretty convincing that this is the same person. I've blocked the IP address for the same duration, and with a link to the previous IP address and their block. If disruption by this user continues, we'll probably need to consider a wider block based off of those ranges. Let me know if it does, and I'll be happy to look into it. :-) Thanks again for the message and the heads up! Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:29, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
You've got mail about possible outing
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- CiaPan - Received, handled, and replied. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:29, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Sock ID
Regarding the unrelated editor you mention here, that is of course our friend here. This has already been noted by RegentsPark, so I assume the tag can be changed if it is liable to cause confusion. Best, CMD (talk) 15:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Chipmunkdavis - Oh, interesting! Thanks for the heads up! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:31, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Smile
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Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
- Blanchey - I smile at you back! I just apologize that it took so long to tell you that I did. :-) Thank you for the smile, and let me know if I can help you with anything - I'll be happy to lend a hand! ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:55, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Please block this account
Hello, Oshwah. Yet another request from me.
I’ve noticed that you’ve blocked your doppelgänger accounts indefinitely. Now, I’ve created a doppelgänger account, and was wondering if you could do the same.
The account is listed here: ЗРРУВб (talk • contribs)
Hopefully, you don’t mind this. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 16:57, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi 3PPYB6! Sorry it took so long to respond to your request.
Done. Full block - no email or talk page access. That's how doppelgängers are supposed to behave. ;-) Just make sure that you redirect your user page and user talk page from your doppelgänger to your main account. Use your main account when making those changes. All set, my friend! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- 3PPYB6 - You've already redirected those pages to your main account - awesome! Sorry for stating the obvious! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:04, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Article s6 (init)
Good morning Oshwah. New reference links have been added to the article s6 (init) to improve the quality of the article. Maybe you could review it to improve it more or to know what else is missing? Thank you very much. --Rstmnq1000 (talk) 17:47, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Rstmnq1000! I'm a bit busy with real life... obligations (lol), but I'll be happy to give your draft another look. Just give me a bit of time. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:06, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
SPI Question
Hello again Oshwah!! Sorry to bother you yet again... Just a quick question- I filed an SPI report here, and it feels like I may have jumped the gun a little bit on it. Could I trouble you to take a look at the diffs I presented and make sure I didn't react too quickly here? I don't want to waste time for SPI clerks and I know they're always super busy. Either way, I do appreciate your help as always!! SPF121188 talk to me contribs 17:15, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) A CU has run a check, and confirmed a connection between two accounts. A CU or clerk will need to look at the editing that the two confirmed accounts have been engaged in to determine whether any WP:BADSOCK lines have been crossed. Don't worry about the next steps, we'll figure it out, you didn't do anything wrong by raising the report. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 17:57, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Done Yeah, there was nothing wrong with your report. I expect there's a meme going around the internet or something. Girth Summit (blether) 18:07, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help, Girth Summit! Relative to most, I'm still learning different functions, and feedback always helps :) Oshwah, I hope all is well! SPF121188 talk to me contribs 18:12, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Spf121188! Well, obviously from Girth Summit's response above, you did well with your report and with your evidence proving that sock puppetry was afoot. :-) Thank you for reporting this, and please don't be a stranger if this happens again! File a report here, and we'll look into it. Girth Summit - Thank you for taking care of this while I was busy with crappy real life obligations. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:09, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Real life gets to us all, Oshwah :) Thank you for responding and I'm sure we'll cross paths again soon! Have an awesome weekend! SPF121188 (tell me!) (contribs) 13:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Indef blocks
Hey, I noticed that you unblocked some long-indef blocked IPs some time ago, would you mind looking at this ANI discussion last month that went nowhere for more indef blocked ranges and IPs I found?
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1088#/20_block_done_in_2008_still_needed? wizzito | say hello! 06:26, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Wizzito - An indefinite block on this IP range is definitely unnecessary. I ran a check, and I see no reason to hold this further. The range is unblocked. If anyone disagrees with this unblock, please re-instate it without asking for my approval first - don't count it as wheel warring. I will attest to your actions as permitted. The only thing I ask is that you message me on my user talk page and let me know that you re-blocked this range, and tell me exactly why you did so. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:36, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, but I'm not an admin. lul wizzito | say hello! 04:37, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Blocked users
Hi Oshwah! An Edit-a-thon event was organised under the IWUG, we properly guided new editors to register on Meta but after a while some users were blocked. These users couldn't participate during the event because they could not log into the dashboard These users are Grace Nwosu, Onkovictor, Omalichababy, Bhec Khey, Ndubueze Jenny, estheribeh97. Can anything be done? Thank you Olugold (talk) 19:38, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Olugold! Thanks for reaching out to me with your questions and concerns! I took a look at the global account status of each of the accounts that you listed here, and none appear to be blocked on any project. Can you elaborate as to what errors or issues that these users are having? What can't they do? What is stopping them exactly? This information will help me to figure out what is going on. :-) Let me know - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:45, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you Oshwah for you response. Below are some of the messages users saw on their mobile interface while trying to register or log into the eventdashboard.
- "Account creation error.
- You are currently unable to edit Wikipedia. Editing from your IP address (129.205.124.97) has been blocked (disabled) on all Wikimedia wikis until 05:02, 15 March 2022 by Tks4Fishe (meta.wikimedia.org) for the following reason: Open proxy: Visit the help page if you are affected This block began on 04:02, 16 February 2022 Your current IP address is 129.205.124.97. Please include all..."
- "You are currently unable to edit Wikipedia due to a block affecting this IP address. This does not affect your ability to read Wikipedia pages. Most people who see this message have done nothing wrong. Some kinds of blocks restrict editing from specific service providers or..."
- Olugold (talk) 05:41, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Olugold - Hey, sorry for the late response here! Okay, so the first error is due to the IP address being globally blocked by a Steward. This means that the IP address cannot edit any Wikimedia Foundation projects. To fix this, you'll need to reach out to them. The second error can be fixed by simply loosening or removing the block on the IP address or range. I'd need to know what IP address is being affected so that I can take a look. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi
Hi Oshwah, how are you? --つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 01:38, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- つがる - Excellent! How are you? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:46, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Nice! lol I am sorry for the late reply haha. For me IRL I just feel like I am hitting a lot of road blocks, For one example I'm struggling to decide which path to go down to (the university one, or no-university one). I don't want to go too in-depth here cause anyone can read this thread.... Wikipedia-wise I guess I have been in SEWP for most of the time! My En Wikipedia account is so broken I don't edit much it in it. Also all my browsers in my computer happen to be broken too! tough luck! (I totally don't use Google Earth Pro's web browser now to edit Wikipedia LOL!) --つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 03:54, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- つがる - I understand the stress behind choosing your next path in life. It's a big decision! As you grow older, the decisions you have to make only get harder. Google Earth Pro has a browser? Huh, I guess it does, but I never consciously saw or used it that way.. How are the browsers on your computer broken? Have you tried repairing or uninstalling and re-installing them? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:24, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, the decisions are so hard to make now, when I was a kid I wish I was an adult, now I wish I was a kid again lol. I miss the High School life now. Yes, Google Earth Pro has a browser built into it, when you search something say like a restaurant, it will pop up the website in the built in browser, but the browser itself isn't the best, the CAPTCHA checks sometimes don't work and the scripts don't run well. Google Earth Pro itself has crashed over 2,000 times on my computer due to error code 11 listed in the crash log and there doesn't seem to be a way to resolve this. As for how my browsers are broken:
- Firefox: Signs me out of Wikipedia randomly, even when Keep me logged in is checked. Even when the tracking protections are off and all cookies on
- Chromium: More Savage than Firefox, as soon as I close it, it signs me out of everything. Also for both of the browsers scripts have problems running, though the problem is bigger on Chromium.
- Opera: Tried using this in the past, messed up the Update Manager's software Sources on Linux Mint so that I can't update the Linux System. It also had messed up Google Earth Pro too.
- I cannot use any other web browser as Linux Mint only has these it seems via software manager.
- I haven't tried uninstalling and Installing, as it will remove all my data :/ ( I don't know what;s going on with my system lol)
- Also why does playing 4K resolution youtube vidoes on Firefox Tax my GPU/CPU and make it so laggy, but on Chromium the same video on 4k has no lag or no problems playing? つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 20:14, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- つがる - As for your browsers, I'd check your privacy settings and make sure that cookies are set to not expire and/or not delete when closing the browser. These are normal privacy settings, but this can also have the side effect of logging you out randomly (because the cookie either expired or was deleted). I would say that the different browsers use different codecs in order to play these videos. Some browsers are written better than others; one might tax the crap out of your CPU when playing video, while the other one doesn't. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:32, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Oh also I noticed that the language settings are messed up on Firefox on Wikipedia pages, I can PM you the pictures of this if you are on IRC ;)
- I don't think the cookies are set to expire, for chromium I can confirm it's not set to because I just checked it an hour ago. For Firefox, I don't think so either...
- Yea that actually might make sense youtube and chromium are by Google so likely Google codes them . Though I image Chrome is much better because it contains some closed source code. つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 20:37, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- つがる - Sure, you can PM me links to those photos. I might be away or at work when you PM me, so don't be offended if my responses are not timely... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:47, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- つがる - As for your browsers, I'd check your privacy settings and make sure that cookies are set to not expire and/or not delete when closing the browser. These are normal privacy settings, but this can also have the side effect of logging you out randomly (because the cookie either expired or was deleted). I would say that the different browsers use different codecs in order to play these videos. Some browsers are written better than others; one might tax the crap out of your CPU when playing video, while the other one doesn't. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:32, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. Yes, the decisions are so hard to make now, when I was a kid I wish I was an adult, now I wish I was a kid again lol. I miss the High School life now. Yes, Google Earth Pro has a browser built into it, when you search something say like a restaurant, it will pop up the website in the built in browser, but the browser itself isn't the best, the CAPTCHA checks sometimes don't work and the scripts don't run well. Google Earth Pro itself has crashed over 2,000 times on my computer due to error code 11 listed in the crash log and there doesn't seem to be a way to resolve this. As for how my browsers are broken:
- つがる - I understand the stress behind choosing your next path in life. It's a big decision! As you grow older, the decisions you have to make only get harder. Google Earth Pro has a browser? Huh, I guess it does, but I never consciously saw or used it that way.. How are the browsers on your computer broken? Have you tried repairing or uninstalling and re-installing them? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:24, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- Nice! lol I am sorry for the late reply haha. For me IRL I just feel like I am hitting a lot of road blocks, For one example I'm struggling to decide which path to go down to (the university one, or no-university one). I don't want to go too in-depth here cause anyone can read this thread.... Wikipedia-wise I guess I have been in SEWP for most of the time! My En Wikipedia account is so broken I don't edit much it in it. Also all my browsers in my computer happen to be broken too! tough luck! (I totally don't use Google Earth Pro's web browser now to edit Wikipedia LOL!) --つがる Talk to つがる:) 🍁 03:54, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Hey
If you are not too busy, would you care to check the SPI filed against me? [5] --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:59, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - Checking now... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:47, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - I unfortunately need to call it a night. I'm back at work within a few hours. If nobody else has taken the case by the time I'm off work, I'll take a look. Have a great night, and we'll chat tomorrow. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:04, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - I deleted the bogus thing. It was malformed anyway (it was a talk page). --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 06:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- My thanks, Jpgordon. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear, Jpgordon - Whelp, that was easy. :-) Thanks, Jpgordon, for taking care of that. I was up very late, I was due into work in a few hours, and I needed to make sure that I at least slept for a few hours... Anyone that's pulled all-nighters (or, even worse, multiple all-nighters in a row) know that it really screws with your mental health to do that - especially as you get older. No thanks, I'm not in college anymore - no need for that. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:52, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- It is all good, Oshwah. Take care.--Kansas Bear (talk) 04:07, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - And you as well! Don't be a strange if you need help with anything else! ;-) Cheers, and happy Friday (or Saturday) - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:09, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- It is all good, Oshwah. Take care.--Kansas Bear (talk) 04:07, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear, Jpgordon - Whelp, that was easy. :-) Thanks, Jpgordon, for taking care of that. I was up very late, I was due into work in a few hours, and I needed to make sure that I at least slept for a few hours... Anyone that's pulled all-nighters (or, even worse, multiple all-nighters in a row) know that it really screws with your mental health to do that - especially as you get older. No thanks, I'm not in college anymore - no need for that. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:52, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- My thanks, Jpgordon. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - I deleted the bogus thing. It was malformed anyway (it was a talk page). --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 06:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Kansas Bear - I unfortunately need to call it a night. I'm back at work within a few hours. If nobody else has taken the case by the time I'm off work, I'll take a look. Have a great night, and we'll chat tomorrow. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:04, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
IPBE request
Hi! My IPBE was expired. And I need to extend my IPBE because I usually need proxy and I live in China. Thanks,Hhkohh (talk) 08:52, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hhkohh -
Done. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:48, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Talk pages merge after article move request
Hi, Oshwah, I can see you're not very active recently. But my request is not urgent, no need to hurry .
There was an article with a typo in the title and a redirect from the correct name. They both had non-empty talk pages.
Now the article has been moved over the redirect to the correct name, but talk pages remain as they were before.
Could you, please, merge talk pages, so that the contents of both appears next to the actual article?
Those talks are:
- Talk:Beverly Lorraine Greene ← correct name
- Talk:Beverly Loraine Greene ← with a typo
They also have MergeFrom/To templates indicating the desired direction. --CiaPan (talk) 09:37, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
P.S.
Here's a talk about the move: Wikipedia:Teahouse#Creditable source tells me name is mispelled in article title. --CiaPan (talk)
Now in archives: Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1144#Creditable source tells me name is mispelled in article title. --CiaPan (talk) 11:58, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi CiaPan! I'm still around and actively watching pages and things; I've just been busy with work is all. :-) Sure,
Done! Easy peasy! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:43, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Features for new users coming soon (and mentors, like you, wanted!)
Hello Oshwah.
Although you've not been very active at the Teahouse of late, you are currently still listed as a host at the Teahouse. But also because I know how much you like to support and guide new editors, I wanted to make sure you're aware of the imminent rollout of new Growth Team Features which every new account will be getting by default. Each users will soon see a new 'Homepage' tab next to their User page. It contains two main elements which might impact on your involvement - and you'd be welcome to get involved and help out directly with one of them.
- Firstly, they will be offered a range of 'suggested edits', and encouraged to make simple improvements to pages that interest them. (Being aware of this feature would be helpful for all Teahouse hosts if you're likely to offer advice on tasks for them to start out doing.)
- There's also a 'Your impact' box to show them how many people have seen the pages they've just edited.
- Finally, each new user is randomly assigned a 'mentor' from a list of friendly, experienced editors, like yourself. If they get stuck, they can ask a question directly to them via a Your mentor box, and hopefully get a swift, friendly answer from that mentor. Currently, this feature is given to 2% of new users, but it's set to increase to around 10% in the very near future.
To spread the load on our current list of around 65 mentors, I'm reaching out to ask if you'd like to help out and sign up as one? The workload is relatively small; User Panini! reports receiving four questions a month, on average, all of which were simple ones of the type we already get at the Teahouse and elsewhere, and I've had just the one in the last 3 weeks. To view a list of every question asked of all mentors over the last 14 days, click here.
If becoming a mentor and being available to help new users on their first few days here interests you - just as you already do at the Teahouse - then please consider signing up at Growth Team features/Mentor list. Existing users can already 'opt-in' to seeing the Newcomer Homepage features via their Preferences.
Thank you! Nick Moyes (talk) 10:16, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Nick Moyes - Oh hell yeah!
Done. I'm on the list! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- God! I love your enthusiasm! Thanks. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:06, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Doug Weller - Received and replied. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)