User:the ed17/Archives/9/B

Novels Newsletter

Reminder for Newsletter - Boylo (talk) 05:21, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Just reminding you again that i shall be submitting the next newsletter this weekend. Boylo (talk) 08:21, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter is completed now, as i take it you have submitted all. Boylo (talk) 07:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

North to the Yukon

Did I boob the sources here? I don't find a full cite for Worth, but it's in the fn. TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 04:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

 Done I think that I forgot to add it. :) —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 15:21, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

SS United States

Hi, as per your message, the Big U's powerplant is mentiond in "The Liners" by Rob McCauley but i don't know how to add a citation and would appreciate some assistance!

Do you ever think she will sail again?

Regards

msa1701 (talk) 15:24, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello! Thanks for replying!

Alright, to add the citation, add <ref> after the sentence you are adding the citation.

Use {{cite book}} to format it (instruction are there)

close the ref using </ref>

For example of this in use (sort of) see USS_Nevada_(BB-36)#Bibliography...there examples don't use the <ref> and </ref>, but you can see the {{cite book}} template in use at least. :)

If you still don't get it because I stink at explaining stuff, then I should be able to add it in as long as you give me an amazon link to the book. :) I would rather you add it in so that you learn, but maybe you'll see better if I add it in. =)

I don't think so...she would be awfully expensive to refurbish, repaint, and (basically) reconstruct...then + high operating costs...and she can't carry as many people as these new cruise liners...and not as many people are enamored of her anymore. I sure hope she does, and I'll pester my Dad if she does (ROAD TRIP!), but I just don't think so. Cheers, —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 15:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

See this...(scroll down to almost the bottom)...that's why I don't think United States will sail again...she's been sitting too long in Philly... —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 15:32, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Novels "Joyous"

Your little comment "Joyous day..." in the Novels coordinators election might get misunderstood. Nuances of meaning don't come across too well in text. You might like to rethink it a bit. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 16:26, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe I ought to re-read stuff like that after I type it...thanks for telling me. —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 17:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

pissed

I'm soooo angry! GAH! Xenocidic deleted my sig now I'm back to plain old sig! (sigh) can you make a sig for me please!--Spittlespat (talk) 20:39, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

don't worry

I made my own sig--Spittlespat | ALIENS 21:28, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not going to count it, but that is awfully close or over that 3255 character limit... —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 21:29, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

really! DANG! um... I'll make a new one just wait ok?--Spittle spat ^(T•C•S) 21:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

K, but remember that it is 255...I had a typo. :) —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 21:31, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Like my new sig?--Spittlespat | ALIENS 21:37, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

phew! I undid one of the vandals edits!--Spittlespat | ALIENS 21:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Good and good. :) —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 21:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

RE:Quotes

Could you see if the quotes look fine on the Akshardham (Delhi) article now that I have fixed them?    Juthani1   ^tcs 22:07, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Replied on the GA page. —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 22:10, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Sure!

Hey! Thanks for the offer, and I would be ever so grateful if you would mentor me in my work! I really could use a reliable source for my questions on formatting, flow, images etc...

I am not quite sure what I should do to "accept" your offer (change the ?adoption? template box to adopted), although I am quite thankful. Please, feel free to criticize the work and/or contribute with some edits. :-) Food_Puma 22:53, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

still online?

-- Ollie Fury _{Get ready for October 31} 02:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

-- Ollie Fury _{Get ready for October 31} 00:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

...yes...? —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 00:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok fine so that question I did wasn't important but are there wikigirlfriends? Also I have been building the encyclopedia take a look at my contributions I spent a half an hour editing!-- Ollie Fury _{Get ready for October 31} 01:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it....none that I've seen...plus, you are in 6th grade...do yourself a favor and wait 2–3 years, ok?

You are doing a better job...two things:

More editing in the mainspace! I challenge you to have half of your edits in the mainspace (i.e. to articles) over the next week!

Second, try to use "edit summaries". Cheers, —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 01:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

what do you mean wait 2-3 years?-- Ollie Fury _{Get ready for October 31} 01:26, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

For a girlfriend! —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 01:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I DON"T WANT A GIRLFRIEND! I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE HECK IS A WIKIGIRLFRIEND!!!!!-- Ollie Fury _{Get ready for October 31} 01:42, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

(sigh) two friends having a arguement... Makes me sad, let's stop screaming ok? Wow my first outburst!-- Ollie Fury _{Get ready for October 31} 01:44, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Whoa kid. I didn't have any outburst there! I wasn't screaming! Calm....anyway, no, there is no such such thing... —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 01:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I got a little rough. Friends again? Also sorry to burst your bubble but you're mainspace edits on Wikipedia is only 36.39%-- Ollie Fury _{Get ready for October 31} 01:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

also 36.39% is higher then mine my mainspace edits are only 26.78%-- Ollie Fury _{Get ready for October 31} 01:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

No big deal...just can you leave me in peace so I can work for awhile?

See my contribs Spittle...I'm working on articles...some of the non-mainspace edits edits are for my 8 GA reviews...etc. It was just a challenge...

—Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 01:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

One mroe question tommorow you have school right? (on tuesday)-- Ollie Fury _{Get ready for October 31} 02:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I have school Mon. – Thurs, though not for the whole day because I'm at college. —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 02:35, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Yep

My research for the Iowas did in fact turn up evidence that the Iowa hulls had been considered for conversion. Its actually in the Iowa class battleship article:

At the time the Iowa class had been cleared for construction, the United States Congress had allocated only enough money to construct the first two ships (Iowa and New Jersey). Congress had not expected the Iowa class to be so costly; with a price tag of $125 million per ship, the Iowas were 60% more expensive than the previously authorized battleship classes.[11][A 9] Moreover, some policymakers were not sold on the U.S. need for more battleships, and proposed turning the ships into aircraft carriers by retaining the hull design but switching their decks to carry and handle aircraft.[A 10][14][15] The proposal to build the Iowas as aircraft carriers was countered by Admiral Ernest King, the Chief of Naval Operations,[14][A 11] and Congress' position on the funding for the Iowa class changed after the Fall of France, when Roosevelt demanded that Congress fund a two-ocean navy to meet the threats posed in the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. Concern over the German invasion prompted Congress to respond by allotting enough money to complete the last four Iowa-class battleships (Missouri, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Kentucky).[11]

Still, its good to see that additional sources have been located to confirm this statement. One can never have too many sources in an article :) — an unlogged in TomStar81 (talk · contribs) 04:47, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Oops didn't see that before. :) Well, I tried, and yeah, you gotta love the ol' reliable sources! :D Good luck with your schoolwork, pal. Cheers, —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 04:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Secret page

Just thought I'd let you know that putting a link to all your subpages isn't wise, especially under the mention of your secret page. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 19:16, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

=/ =/ =/ =/ =/ =/ =/ =/ =/ =/ =/ .................... Wow, I am brillllliant. —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 19:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Response to "don't be discouraged"

I appreciate you -- as RaptorR3d, I'm assuming is/was you -- giving me a word of encouragement (and I'm just coming back to you nearly 3 months later because I've been off-line), but I'm still puzzled because you did just bounce out an addition I made to the F-22 article. First, back in late July User:Bongwarrior helped me (as a relative novice) see how you'd first bounced my citation without reason, then had replaced it and bounced it again with a "questionable source" reason. Did you look at my source? CounterPunch is a well-established Web site, and the writer has an established base at a DC think tank and a prior resume of long Congressional-staff service, all of which I incorporated. I have no reason to suspect fraud on the writer's part, and don't think you do either. So what's questionable?

I have today checked out the F-22 article again, and a line in those intro paragraphs that I felt had particularly opened the door to me -- a completely unsourced anonymous "senior military officials," or the like, song of praise for the fighter -- has also been now struck from the article. I didn't research who did that. But I still feel my line and citation would add to the balance of the intro to the article. I think you should reverse your reversal again, and leave it this time.

At the same time, back in July, my user name was deleted. I've come to understand that action was probably unrelated to the F-22 go-round, but haven't yet figured how to reactivate my name. Will be working on it. On we go. Swliv (talk) 21:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello! I remember you. =)

Um, I'm not Raptor3d, pal! :) Raptor left Wikipedia, I think....

Regarding CounterPunch: try WP:RS/N to see if it is a reliable source...just explain why you want to use it, where you would use it and why you think that this is a good source. They would be able to give you a much more definitive answer than I would.

Regarding username deletion: it wasn't your username that was deleted, but your userpage. If you're back for good, feel free to recreate it. :) Cheers! —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 21:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

OK. Sorry, and thanks. Now I see you were encouraging me in the face of RaptorR3d's reversal of my entry. OK. And I'll work to get Counterpunch/thinktank set up as reliable. (I don't know how you came to know I needed encouragement ...; these presidential aspirants are smart and helpful, I know. ...) ... On we go, again. Swliv (talk) 23:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem. :) Oh, well, I forgot to tell you that I am omnipresent and can see anything in the world at every instant. :D :D :D :D Good luck, and if you need any help, feel free to ask. Cheers! —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 23:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

You've got mail

Explanation inside. —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 21:25, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Same back to you! :) —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 21:43, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Novel's Collaboration of the Month

Our current Collaboration of the month is, well, the Novel. We could use your help, and I see you voted for it. I was thinking you could talk about the development of the fantasy Genre in R.A. Salvatore, Terry Brooks, J.R. Tolkien, it really has been one of the major developments of the novel in 20th century, an entire genre, and I think a large subtopic, (of 20th Century, which is currently empty and the place we are currently trying to significantly expand to note that rapid expansion of literature in the past century). Being well sourced would help FA status as well. Cheers.--Robert Waalk (talk) 22:56, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll get to it. I'm getting awfully bored (sort of) with MILHIST articles right now because I've been working on them for like 1^1/2 months...a couple of days working back in my old fantasy/Shannara niche should help a bit, before I get too burned out. :) Cheers! —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 02:38, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:Alaskas and Iowas

I left a few comments on the Alaska class ACR page. Also, I have been monitering the new information added to the Iowa class battleship page and the individual Iowa pages, so far, I have not seen anything questionable. Thanks for the FYI though, always nice to know some else is watching too. TomStar81 (Talk) 22:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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Hey! I blinked, and you still haven't replied yet! *tsk, tsk, tsk* —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 03:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Notice of request for deletion of editor The ed17/Archives/9 :)

The ed17/Archives/9, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#The ed17/Archives/9 and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :).

Hail to the chief, who in triumph advances,
Honored and bless'd be the evergreen pine...! —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 03:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

O.O realllllly. I better be kept, pal. :D :D :D :D

I don't know about keeping... <evil laugh here> BTW, somebody might be stalking your talk as well. Chamal ^talk 05:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

-_- Now, now.... *GASP* O.O —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 05:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

All right, I haven't bothered you in a while (twelve hours is a while for me).

So...WASSAP???? —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 21:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've been reading through the rest of the nominated editors for deletion... :D :D :D :D

You? —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 22:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

(Ed's deleted dent) Doing just as well as can be expected when nominated for deletion... :D :D :D —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 22:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Two deletes, a "cook in a pot"(?), life in prison (as good as delete xD) and a bad-faith nom....what else could I ask for? :) —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 22:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Compare that to a "Lock in a room with Beach Boys" and a "Lock in a room with Hannah Montana" (to get the Best of Both Worlds)...

and a "Speedy keep." :P :P :P —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 22:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

But at least I wasn't asked to merge with Jonas Brothers. Uh-oh, I think I violated WP:BEANS again... —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 22:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Beach Boys pleh.

Miley Cyrus = good (for me!) if a) we wait 'till she's 16. b) she's feeling as licentious as that day she had that naked photo shoot or whatever it was and c) she is Miley Cyrus, not Hannah Montana. :D :D :D :D

Shush, just shush.

I hope Chamal sees that comment before he votes.... =) —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 22:30, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, I saw it just now, but I don't get it =/ Chamal ^talk 01:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

She's a classical music buff being ordered to hang with the Beach Boys/Hannah/(possibly) the Jonas Brothers....you get it now? :) —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 01:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Uh...well, no. I know practically nothing about musical groups, artists (also actors) in the US. Don't worry, it's just me... most of my friends are crazy over them. Chamal ^talk 13:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

WP:RM request

Did you intend to place this request into the incomplete and contested section of the page, which is for requests that were already listed but were improperly done or otherwise failed to close after five days? If not, the request goes under the section for today's date. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

 Done I suck at reading directions, don't I...... =/ —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 15:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Umm, you want an honest answer? (ribbing with a smile on my face).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but my pride is wounded enough at the moment. :D :D :D —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 16:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Bates method GAN quick-fail

I have requested a community reassessment of your quick-fail. Though I understand your reasoning I think this merits further consideration. PSWG1920 (talk) 05:41, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Tribal class destroyer (1936) Peer Review

Go ahead and be as critical as you can be. I can really use the feedback. ThePointblank (talk) 05:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Replied on the peer review page. —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 05:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Status bar

Oh, wow! Someone's got a fancy new status bar! I just have to copy that template, it looks so good! :D :D :D —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 18:28, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, you see, I went all klepto and stole it from another user here.....I forget who though...Hm. Do you know where it came from? :D —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 18:40, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I think I know her, too...I think it's a girl.

Wait, her name's on the tip of my tongue - hang on...

La Pi...La Pia...La Pita chip? Perhaps she was seasoned with garlic and herbs... —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 18:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I think...hmmm...La Piani.... La 10573 Piani? Maybe she is a sentient asteroid? —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 19:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Dunno who she is. But rumor has it, she's the hottest, smartest, near-perfect Wikipedian on wiki today. She's supposed to be a really good at...um...whatever instrument she played. Would be nice to meet her... —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 18:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Psh. Let me be the judge of that. I want (a) a picture http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_ed17&action=edit&section=28(b) IQ test results (c) someone else to go through and count her mistakes (not me, I'm too lazy) ...and (d) a Youtube video of one of this person's performances. :D :D :D :D —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 18:43, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

(Ed's unbelievably crazy dent) Well, I don't think that's possible, because sources tell me: (a) a certain stalker might use her photo for the worse, (b) she's too smart to take an IQ test, (c) doesn't make any mistakes, hence any "counting" efforts would be futile, and (d) for aforementioned stalker, she simply cannot appear online. :D :D :D —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 18:54, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Also, you can take her hotness for granted, since she has already received a marriage proposal. :D :D :D :D :D :D —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 18:54, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

(a) Who is that stalker? I've heard of him, but I thought that he was one of the coolest editors I've ever met! Are you sure that it is him? I think that you were wrong.... :) Also, some ugly people get married you know.... (b) Psh. What person other than God can be too smart to take an IQ test? (c) oh, but everyone makes mistakes, pal. Everyone. :D (d) ...your "stalker" isn't a stalker... :D :D :D :D —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 19:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

(a) Meh. I suppose she has reasonable fear, what with two three guys and one little alien-loving kid watching her page. One guy, in particular, she reportedly finds really creepy. She has killed him not once, not twice, but three times in a row, and he keeps coming back for more. I forget his name, too - I think it has to do with a horse of some kind...

(b) Haven't you ever heard of "God-status"?

(c) Are you sure?

(d) Oh, yes he is. She may have two... O_O —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 16:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

(a) Then go find a couple o' girls to stalk your page Wait. Do Zebec and La Alquimista count?

(b) -_- Is it really neccessary to use my own comments against me?

(c) yes, you DO make mistakesno edit summary in that last one :P —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 17:08, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

(d) Ooo ouch. Jeez, you must be really hot to have two stalkers!!! :D :D :D :D :P

Anyway, have a few more laughs. —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 17:08, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Laughs taken. BAI4NOW. :D :D :D —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 18:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

;-p Thought so. But as for the "YOOOUUUU" part? You are such a girl! :D :D :D :D Ooooo an insult! —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 18:39, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Riiiiiiiigght. —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 18:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

When did I say that I never make mistakes? —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 18:53, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

(Ed's poorly understanding dent) You countered my statement that I make less mistakes than toi. Then, you commenced to create a typo within minutes. Is that a contradiction or is it a contradiction? —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 00:22, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

RfA

Hi Ed17! Thank you very much for your support in my RfA, which passed yesterday. I hope not to let you and the others down, and use the tools for the benefit of the project. Cheers, Ynhockey ^(Talk) 21:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem! You looked like a good candidate. :) Cheers! —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 15:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

lol?

On the discussion we had about "girls" when Lapianista said most guys like hot girls why did you say LOLLOLOLOLOLLOLLOLLOL never ending lols... Why did you say that? Also have you been on uncyclopedia?-- Ollie Fury _{Get ready for October 31} 02:29, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Because I laughed very hard at the comment!

Nope. :) —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 02:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

RfC/U request

A Request for comment/User conduct has been initated here regarding User:Roux (formerly User:PrinceOfCanada). As someone wish past interactions with this user, you are invited to comment. --G2bambino (talk) 16:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey Ed, what actually is a Request for comment? I've interacted with Roux before and he seemed like a good editor (we were dealing with a very unhelpful newbie)- it was here. How can I comment? Ollie Fury _{Get ready for October 31} 16:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Read the instructions! :) I encountered him right in the middle of what was basically a massive slugfest between G2 and Roux. To me, it looked as though G2 had a point and Roux (Prince of Canada at the time) was baiting him, so I left a message.....ugh, do I hate Wikidrama.... —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 16:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. I'm sorry it had to come to this, and I held off on doing it for quite some time; I just kept hoping things would improve, especially after so many were consistently telling him something was wrong. Let's hope this is for the better in the long run. --G2bambino (talk) 18:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, fewer battles between editors is a very good thing...I hope that this all gets worked out and it ENDS! :) —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 18:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)