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Tanha Dar Mazrae (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No reliable sources (a.k.a. no wiki links) and no reliable reviews. This may fail Wikipedia:Notability (films). This article about a short film is short because no other sources exist.

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sayeye Penhan. I am also nominating the following related page because it is also is sourced by a similar website (akhbarrasmi, is it notable?):

Seyed Mohammad Mousavi Noor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) DareshMohan (talk) 07:33, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Historical Archers Philippines (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article sounds like a violation of WP:NOTWEBHOST as the article sounds like an WP:ADS. I search it on google, found only WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS about the organizations. The sources provided in the article is unreliable and the 1st one is just straight up garbage. Therefore this article fails WP:GNG Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Malvern College Chengdu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A search for sources in English and Chinese in google news did not come up with enough to meet WP:NSCHOOL. As it stands, this article is based on its own website. LibStar (talk) 07:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Jeff Lestz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There does not appear to be significant independent coverage Thebiguglyalien (talk) 06:23, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Sourcing:
  • Guardian article isn't significant coverage
  • Southern Illinoisian article is *about* a partnership that's not independent (he gave them the books about him to read), but the article itself is indepdent, reliable, and significant
  • The "Steer Your Business Magazine" article seems very likely non-independent
  • MoneyMarketing doesn't really cover *him*
  • BusinessInsider is mostly him saying "I got rich by saving", may or may not be significant coverage, definitely independent
  • OutsourcingAngel is non-reliable
  • HillSong is just an event invite + non-independent
  • His autobiography & other book are non-independent
I am also unable to find any other sources, other than what is already in the article, on a quick look. His claims to fame seem to be (a) being a millionaire who was once homeless and (b) owning Genistar. But the S.Ill. + Bus.Insider don't really make enough coverage for (a), and (b) would be better in its own article. Therefore, Delete, lacking any sources. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Embassy of Germany, Chișinău (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ORG. Article is merely a 1 line sentence which confirms it exists. LibStar (talk) 05:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Is there a possible Redirect or Merge target article?
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Clear craze (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Concerns about WP:GNG as raised earlier on the article's talk page by another user, which I'll repeat below:

A quick search of Google Scholar returns the sum total of one book that mentions the concept of a "clear craze" ever existing, or that it was a thing that was defined to the 1980s or 1990s. I am almost certain this article fails notability and significance. I am not sure how I ended up here to be honest but I see no significance or notability to this article or its contents. Moreover, I fail to see how the term "clear craze" is encyclopedic in any real sense. Further to the point tabloid trends do not construe a relevant or notable reason for this article to be here.

At current, this article loosely collates a list of products that were released around the 1990s that had a transparent design, which is anecdotally indeed something that some products did during that time that can be called a trend. However, the article's collation of them and framing them as a "clear craze" overstep the mark when the nomenclature and grouping is not subject to significant secondary coverage. We don't have an article for Global Village Coffeehouse even though the term means something and connotes an obvious trend without more secondary sources that substantiate the term. Some reflections include the following:

(1) Firstly, on the use of the phrase, the beverage 'clear craze' seems very loosely to be a thing that some sources like the Newsweek article in the context of the trend to create clear beverages or consumer products to reflect claims about the purity and healthiness of the product. I am not sure that this makes it notable, given that the only source really holding the article up at the moment is the Newsweek one, but it seems that this is where the term is coming from. There's very little secondary analysis, and pivotal sentences in the article like "the clear craze became official with its first wave of products" are unsourced. A brief look around for the term doesn't find much use of "clear craze" as a phrasing, although I found it in or the book The Nineties by Chuck Klosterman (around p. 191) [1]. So thinking critically here, without evidence of consumer demand for this style, "craze" at best falsely connotes a marketing strategy that does not, in fact, reflect a "craze" for the products. The most notable example on the page, Crystal Pepsi, was a failure.

(2) Following from that, on the categorisation of products included, the article spuriously conflates the concept of the 'clear craze' as it applied to beverages and consumables to other trends in transparent product design, particularly transparent casings of consumer electronics in the later 90s that seem to have occurred well after the fact of the sourced products. From what I can tell, the link isn't explicitly made by the sources. Ultimately, the article is a list of products with very little explanation of what unites them. There is not a lot of sourcing or analysis to justify why certain things are in the article other than that an editor or other has found a source about a clear-looking product from that era, attributed it to the "clear craze", and put it in. This is not really the most rigorous approach when trying to define a term for a historical design trend.

If this is deemed notable, suggest a rewrite of the article focusing on (a) the substance and use of the term, and (b) being more rigorous about what about products from that era make it attributable to the trend, backed by sources. Welcome any thoughts - thanks! VRXCES (talk) 04:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Any chance that the nominator would reduce this essay into a concise nomination statement? I don't think many editors will read all of this with the care required to come to a thoughtful decision.
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Pinch to Punch (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This lacks WP:SIGCOV even the article knows it limited information has surfaced online. Oricon yield no result, Natalie yield no result, even the Japanese article has one source, the only thing I could find that is RS is from the Media Arts Database Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Also nominating this related articles with the same reason as above
Sobakasu Pucchi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Zen-chan Tsū-chan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Christina Rahm (scientist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article doesn't show notability. fails GNG. ANTCrowd439 (talk) 06:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Barren Earth (DC Comics) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I couldn't find any reliable source talking about it so it clearly fails WP:GNG. The article only cites 1 sources which they repeated twice Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Scott Kuhn (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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BLP created in 2008 with no evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources. Does not appear to meet any sports notability criteria. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Delete: I couldn't find any sources on Google News even google showing a different guy. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Ahmed Talaat (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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As far as I can tell, this is a minor actor and has not had any significant roles Thebiguglyalien (talk) 05:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Nyarch Linux (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This lacks WP:SIGCOV and the only sources talking about is on the article itself the ZDnet which is release on 2024 making it unreliable per WP:PRS Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Gotham TV Award for Outstanding Performance in a Drama Series (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It's hard to decide if I will draftify this article but this feels like it's too soon to have the a standalone article. The award and the 1st edition of the award itself is notable but this specific category as of now, seems no notable. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Also nominating this article for the same reason:
Gotham TV Award for Outstanding Performance in a Limited Series (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Pak Chol-ryong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 04:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Delete: fails WP:SIGCOV, only found a source from 2008 from France 24 Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Kye Song-hyok (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 04:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Sarem k khazaei (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Falls WP:GNG The draft is Draft:Sarem K Khazaei. Youtube and Google not Reliable 🌀TyphoonAmpil🌀 (💬 - 📝) 04:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Cañapa Lake (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Only one source, not enough to meet the general notability guideline. And the source does not have the lake as its primary topic and hence is not SIGCOV. Stanley Joseph Wilkins (talk) 04:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

K13AV-D (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

WSJP-LD (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV, Fox affiliation notwithstanding. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Central Illinois' On-Line Broadcast Museum (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG; written like an advertisement. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:21, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 03:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete. Fails WP:NORG with no WP:SIGCOV for the museum. Each of the sources is about its founder Doug Quick, with (at most) a glancing mention of the fact that he founded this organization. The closest we get is this local radio story, but even that is mostly about Quick with just a couple WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS of the museum. I'd suggest a redirect to Doug Quick but that page already redirects here. If someone wants to create that page so I can change my !vote, please ping me but otherwise I'm left with "delete." Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:30, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
    I can work on converting the Doug Quick page to his bio and make a museum section and then merge this with the new Doug Quick Page, if you think this would work. BuffaloBob (talk) 18:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
    @Sammi Brie: Your take? Mvcg66b3r (talk) 19:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
    A Doug Quick article with a redirect of Central Illinois' On-Line Broadcast Museum to a section in this would seem to be a possible solution. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 14:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
    I am working on your recommendation and will be posting the “new” Doug Quick article shortly, then I will return here to request your consensus. BuffaloBob (talk) 03:11, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep Needs lotsa clean up, but meets WP:GNG per Jonathan Bowen's argument. SBKSPP (talk) 01:10, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
    @SBKSPP What are the references that you and @Jpbowen think provide WP:SIGCOV? They are all the definition of “trivial mention.” Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:25, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Lots of original ideas but no consensus. If you are arguing Keep, you should respond to the nominator's statement about the lack of sources about the museum.
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  • Delete per Dclemens1971. Fails WP:NORG. SBKSPP, why did you vote "Keep, meets GNG per Jonathan Bowen's argument", when Jonathan Bowen did not mention GNG once in their comment? Please provide some sources that offer significant coverage if you're going to vote to keep. C F A 💬 03:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Siebel Scholars (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Insufficient referencing to demonstrate notability. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 02:56, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

  • Comments - First, there are several websites with text almost identical to this article, but I can't tell whether the WP article is WP:COPYVIO or a case of citogenesis: (1), (2), (3).
The article needs to be revised to resolve the possible copyvio problem.
Second, there are sources that could be used in an overhaul effort for this article:
Third, there are multiple listings by college, annually, naming scholarship awardees at the various institutions, with descriptions of the award, which colud provide in depth, reliable sources to revise the article.
Last, perhaps the best solution to the problem of potential copyvio might be to draftify this article, and rebuild it from secondary, reliable sources. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 17:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
A copyvio is unlikely. Looking through the article's history, the current version developed slowly over time. Here is the copyvio comparison for your link no. 1. It's blatantly obvious (and also kinda funny) that they just copied text from Wikipedia and made some minor changes to disguise it ("29" -> "various", "selected" -> "chosen", "on the basis of" -> "based on"). The comparison tool doesn't work for the other two links, but they're dated so we can look at the latest revision before they were published. For both no. 2 and no. 3, the text was already there. So the copyright concerns are baseless and the article should definitely not be draftified. --Un assiolo (talk) 19:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: There is a list of potential sources here, though it seems they are all from universities involved with the programme. --Un assiolo (talk) 19:25, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Thomas Siebel#Philanthropy. I looked for sources and all I could find were press releases and content promoting the scholars on the websites of their colleges and universities; none of these are independent coverage. It's a WP:GNG fail, but as an AtD we can redirect to the discussion of the founding donor's philanthropy in his bio. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Relisting to see if there is more support for Redirection given the other sources brought up in the discussion.
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Jeju Islamic Cultural Center (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No claim to notability. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 03:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Delete Searching in the Korean language I can find this Jeju Ilbo article: [2], but it's only a one-sentence mention. Can't find much else. seefooddiet (talk) 07:22, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Jia Rizivi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Semi-advertorialized article about a filmmaker, not properly referenced as passing inclusion criteria for filmmakers.
The attempted notability claim here is an unreferenced list of minor awards from small-fry film festivals whose awards are not instant notability clinchers -- WP:NFILM is looking for Oscars, Canadian Screen Awards, BAFTAs or major film festivals on the order of Cannes, Berlin or TIFF whose awards get broadly reported by the media as news, not just any film festival that exists -- but apart from two hits of "local woman does stuff" in her own hometown media (and a New York Times hit that tangentially verifies the existence of a podcast that she was not involved in creating, and thus is not about her in any GNG-contributing sense), this is otherwise referenced entirely to primary and unreliable sources that are not support for notability at all.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to have a stronger notability claim, and better sourcing for it, than this. Bearcat (talk) 18:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

  • Note: Article was at a misspelling of her name: I moved it to Jia Rizvi (as on her website and in other sources), then realised one isn't supposed to move an article during an AfD and moved it back again. So as I type it is at the wrong title. PamD
  • Note also: most sources refer to her as Jia Wertz, but her own web page uses Rizvi. PamD 09:10, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep: there seem to be enough articles about her as film-maker. It was a badly-written article but I've cleaned up some of the problems - use of forename, curly quotes, lack of links, overlinks, etc. PamD 09:10, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
And bizarre system of reference names too: "one" etc. Have fixed the most-re-used. PamD 10:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. She doesn’t seem to pass WP:NDIRECTOR but the Calgary Herald and GlobalNews profiles are sufficient SIGCOV for this to clear WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:TOOSOON. She’s won some accolades in smaller film festivals, but not the bigger ones like Cannes (which actually isn’t that difficult to get into). Right now, the sourcing isn’t up to the level we usually expect from significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 02:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

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Miranda (engine) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article on a rocket engine under development which has no proven notability as it does not yet exist. Clear case of WP:TOOSOON. As part of WP:NPP it was draftified for improvement, for instance waiting until it has proven to be viable. Novice editor removed tags, moved back to main and made comments that violate politeness code. This article and approach is inappropriate for Wikipedia. Since the editor has rejected draftification, deletion now is the approach. If the motor ever works and becomes useful, then and only then would it be appropriate for Wikipedia. Ldm1954 (talk) 01:51, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

N.B., this page used to be a redirect to a short description in the Firefly Aerospace page. Within that page it can be OK; however creating a new article by replacing a redirect must pass the same bar as the creation of any new page. Ldm1954 (talk) 01:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Lean keep Unlike a lot of these fledgling companies, that end up promising a lot of vaporware, this case is likely different. This engine has the backing of Northrop Grumman, which needs it to power its Antares rocket, which it needs to lift the Cygnus spacecraft into space to resupply the International Space Station per the terms of its Commercial Resupply Services contract witch NASA. So there’s a lot riding on this program, which all adds to its notability. Furthermore, if this engine program fails, that itself may be notable if it ends the entire Antares rocket program. RickyCourtney (talk) 05:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Kim Gwang-sok (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 01:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Abdulkarim Fardan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 01:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Airnav.com (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I can't seem to find any WP:SIGCOV and there is no clear reason why this is a notable website. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 00:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Ellis Hicks (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Wikipedia is WP:NOTGENEALOGY, and simply being a knight is hardly sufficient for WP:BIO. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Comment: I encourage everyone to check this forum post Microplastic Consumer (talk) 03:26, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Jim Dukhovny (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Biography of a CEO of a company, Alef Aeronautics, which is developing a 'flying car'. The article fails to demonstrate that Dukhovny himself, rather than the company and its proposed project, is notable by Wikipedia criteria. The sourcing (some of which looks questionable) consists entirely of articles discussing the project, and of interviews with Dukhovny - interviews are of course not independent of the subject, and thus cannot be used to demonstrate notability. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Iranian American Women Foundation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Isn't a notable organization. jwtmsqeh (talk) 07:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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Unused. Created by a now blocked user. Gonnym (talk) 07:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused sort template. Gonnym (talk) 07:50, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused nabox as it has no links anymore. Gonnym (talk) 07:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused transport template. Probably replaced with direct calls to the data modules. Gonnym (talk) 07:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused image gallery. Gonnym (talk) 07:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused. Created by an account that this was their only edit. Template:Tamil cinema is already used on all of these articles. Gonnym (talk) 07:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused. Only two links and both are not in the squad anymore. Gonnym (talk) 07:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused and not sure still reflects the county according to the article. Gonnym (talk) 07:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused timeline template. Gonnym (talk) 07:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused after this edit. Gonnym (talk) 07:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Template unused after this edit. Gonnym (talk) 07:33, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused sub-template. Gonnym (talk) 07:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused Turkey data template. Gonnym (talk) 07:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused UK data template. Gonnym (talk) 07:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Unused and mostly blanked template. Gonnym (talk) 07:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Asian Open Figure Skating Trophy Champions templates

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Not a notable enough skating competition to warrant a navigation box. Bgsu98 (Talk) 04:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Yet another collection of random somewhat related comic book articles. The main subject of this navbox, Gorilla City, is a redirect and not that notable, while many of the links are only partially related characters, plus comics and media the location appeared in, as well as random links to similar gorilla-related works (and Obama due to some comic events). There is already Category:Gorilla City which sufficiently organizes the most relevant content for this. Trailblazer101 (talk) 02:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

September 2

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September 2

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Category:Taxoboxes with uncapitalized status parameters

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Nominator's rationale: Unneeded category per User talk:Peter coxhead#Category:Taxoboxes with uncapitalized status parameters. Gonnym (talk) 08:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Cyber Security by country

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Nominator's rationale: Merge to existing category to match Computer security. AusLondonder (talk) 22:05, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Support as long as the child cats are renamed/merged. Mason (talk) 01:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Merge per nom, obvious duplicate. The subcategories have been listed as well. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 20:13, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
    Thanks for that! AusLondonder (talk) 03:49, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename the subcategories, too? (They have not been tagged for a full week, so I will relist in addition to pinging previous participants.)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

  • @Smasongarrison and Marcocapelle: Thoughts on renaming? (And Mason, apologies for the repeated pings tonight :D) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
    Lol, no worries. Support renaming the subcats. Mason (talk) 03:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
    • Support renaming the subcategories too, for consistency. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Vehicle simulation MOGs

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Nominator's rationale: A very similar category already exists. The desired category for merging is for practically the same thing. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 05:00, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose. As the originator of both categories, "multiplayer vehicle operation games" is actually the category that is more specific.
here is its specific role : A category for any video game, arcade game, or board game in which multiple players are able to each operate a different control station or weapon station on the same vehicle at the same time.,the category for vehicle simulation MOGs is more generic, as it is simply any multiplayer games where players play the game by operating a vehicle, i.e. rather than controlling an in-game persona. --Sm8900 (talk) 02:09, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Merge or reverse merge, the difference is too subtle to keep them apart. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
    it is entirely different. in "multiplayer vehicle operation games," you and other players would be at separate stations on the same vehicle. Whereas "Vehicle simulation MOGs" includes any and all games where each player has their own jet fighter, or tank,or other vehicle, and is trying to shoot other players. Sm8900 (talk) 19:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For discussion on Sm8900's latest comment.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Still would be helpful to have a response to Sm8900's most recent comment :)
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Category:Experimental science

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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining/redundant. (All these categories have been made by the same user.) For bio the category is Unhelpful for navigation, this category contains 1 topic, a journal, and an organization. The working assumption in biology is that they're doing experiments. Mason (talk) 19:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Should the other two also be deleted? (If there are no further comments in a week, I would close this as regular delete Category:Experimental science and soft delete the other two.)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:People from Jagiroad District

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Nominator's rationale: The Wikipedia category should be renamed from "People from Jagiroad district" to "People from Jagiroad" because Jagiroad is not a district but a town in Assam, India. Saurabh{Talk} 03:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Just delete, the only article in the category does not contain any information about where the subject lived or lives. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
    @Marcocapelle: Does He has been elected in Assam Legislative Assembly election […] from Jagiroad constituency not imply that? jlwoodwa (talk) 06:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
    • No, unless Jagiroad is the only populated place in the constituency. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
      @Marcocapelle Jagiroad is actually the most populated town in the constituency, and it's also the second most populated area in the district after the district headquarters. It's often considered a sub-division of the district due to its size and importance. Besides being a major transport hub, it's also an industrial area with significant establishments like the Hindustan Paper Mill and the Tata Semiconductor Assembly and Testing Facility. Saurabh{Talk} 17:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
    Yes, the phrase does imply that he was elected from the Jagiroad constituency in the Assam Legislative Assembly election. Categorizing this information can help clarify these details and provide a more comprehensive understanding of the subject.

    However, we can also use "Jagiroad" instead of "People from Jagiroad," which will provide broader coverage. Saurabh{Talk} 14:54, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
    • He is in three Assam MLAs categories and a political party category, that seems to suffice. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:48, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:47, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question: Rename or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Scientists with secret work

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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining categories. The only non-occupation page is for an organization not defined by Scientific secrecy. Mason (talk) 19:29, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Should Category:Scientists with secret work also be deleted? (If there are no further comments in a week, I would close this as soft delete Category:Scientists with secret work and regular delete Category:Scientific secrecy.)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:16, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Mass shootings involving armed citizens

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Nominator's rationale: I'm not sure if this should be renamed, as armed citizens seems like a POV title, or outright deleted as non-defining. User:Namiba 14:20, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
    Delete per nom. POV and not-defining. Are there mass shootings perpetrated by unarmed people? Or wait, is this supposed to be shootings where someone was armed at all? regardless, delete. Mason (talk) 03:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
    Keep for context, this refers to incidents where someone where someone who was not the police went after the perpetrator with a weapon, armed citizen here is referring to the person who tried to stop them and not the perp. For a few of these incidents in this cat this is actually quite defining and discussed, but I don't care enough to argue this. In either case I do not think it is POV; armed citizens is the usual title for this kind of thing in the sources. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:25, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep as creator This has been a major topic of discussion in the American gun control debate, and there are plenty of sources talking about it (just search "mass shootings armed citizens". I think it is a defining characteristic for some shootings (New Life Church, Greenwood, Sutherland Springs, Cetinje for an international example; there are plenty of sources discussing the armed citizens' roles in those attacks). The cat can be removed from the others if you want. It's also not POV, I guess we can change it to "Mass shootings involving defensive gun use" if you want.Also Mason please look at the category page and take 5 seconds to read the description before you comment anything. Thank you. Lettlre (talk) 22:09, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
I read the category. @Lettlre My point was that the name was not clear. Mason (talk) 19:33, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Queen of Hearts (talk) 03:03, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

  • I'm on the fence about whether to keep or delete. However, if kept, it needs renaming because the current name is unclear, both because it could refer to the shooter and because citizen generally refers to someone with citizenship, which is obviously unconnected to this topic. Perhaps something like Category:Mass shootings involving armed civilian defenders, though I don't like the word "defender" but I'm unsure what else to suggest. Mclay1 (talk) 02:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename? Delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:LGBT YouTube celebrities

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Nominator's rationale: Not a helpful redirect, considering that the start of both this category and its target is "LGBT YouTube". Delete it. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
The category was moved to Category:LGBT YouTubers nearly a decade ago, I don't have a problem with deleting this. AusLondonder (talk) 03:26, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Not quite sure I understand the rationale though, it was only in existence as a result of a move. AusLondonder (talk) 04:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete, nom is right that redirects that only deviate from the target at the very end of the search term are entirely redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:This TV affiliates

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Nominator's rationale: Empty category (network defunct) Mvcg66b3r (talk) 02:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Post-Classical Chinese philosophers

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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Post-classical is vague and unclearly defined Mason (talk) 02:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
  • I thought we had a complete post-classical tree for East and South Asia, but apparently not, or not any longer. Merge as it does not make sense to keep a single post-classical category on its own. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:Canadian women designers

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Nominator's rationale: Merge per EGRS and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_December_3#Category:Women_designers Mason (talk) 23:27, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Shouldn't the subcategories be nominated too? Shouldn't it be a dual merge? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
What are you suggesting that the subcategories need to be nominated for? All of them are in established "X by nationality" trees with dozens upon dozens of siblings for other countries, with no discernible reason why Canada should be uniquely excluded from established trees, so why would they need to be deleted? Bearcat (talk) 17:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
  • If the nominated category is a case of WP:OCEGRS then surely its subcategories too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

  • I am sorry but I just don't get it. Why we would remove the women subcat here, but keep a women subcat both at a higher level and at a lower level in the tree? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Category:First-person shooter multiplayer online games

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Nominator's rationale: This is a though one, but there are multiple reasons why this long-lasting category might not be as defining as everyone has once thought.

FPSMOGs are not a legitimate sub-genre of first-person shooters, while MMOFPSs considered one and Wikipedia has their own article on it. More importantly, most games in the FPS genre as whole will have online multiplayer, making it even more non-defining. This category isn't an entirely non-diffusing category and is also one of the only categories at the moment combing a genre and multiplayer online games.

This merge may make navigation harder, both the MOGs and FPS categories will contain 35-45 more articles, and that's okay. And besides not every single title that would fit into this category has been added here anyway.

For the subcategories we will instead replace the MMOFPSs category with category:Multiplayer online games and category:First-person shooters by series. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)



Primeiro de Agosto Men's Basketball Past Squads

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Delete. Though this comes from a page move, it violates the WP:RFD#DELETE criteria 2 and 5 - as it is confusing and makes no sense to redirect men to women. Geschichte (talk) 08:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Tharsult

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No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Secomber

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No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Daggerford

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Not mentioned at target, but is in multiple other articles, including Neverwinter Nights: Darkness over Daggerford. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Northkeep

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No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Miyeritar

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Not mentioned at target. Alternatives would be Drow#In_the_Forgotten_Realms and Elf_(Dungeons_&_Dragons)#Forgotten_Realms. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Shaar

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Not mentioned at target. Note also Shaar (surname). 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Cormyr

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Not mentioned at target, but apparently lots of mentions elsewhere. Additionally, there are Cormyr: A Novel and Cormyr: The Tearing of the Weave. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Sharindlar

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No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Hakiyah

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No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Jisan

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Not mentioned at target, but there are Jisan station, Jisan Valley Rock Festival, Numbers_(South_Korean_TV_series)#Jisan_Bank and potentially others. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Najm (Forgotten Realms)

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Not mentioned at target; I'm unable to find any suitable alternative. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Zann (Forgotten Realms)

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Not mentioned at target and I don't think anywhere else on the English Wikipedia apart from Zann. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Bala (Forgotten Realms)

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Not mentioned at target; I'm unable to find any suitable alternative. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:22, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Vataqatal

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No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Vartha Do'Urden

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No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia (unless this is somehow related to Drizzt Do'Urden?). 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Marco Volo: Departure

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Not mentioned at target. Listed at List of Forgotten Realms modules and sourcebooks, but entries there are linked (and the list contains a decent number of red links). 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Asper (Forgotten Realms)

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Not mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Chondath

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Not mentioned at target. Potential alternatives are Faerûn, The Vilhon Reach, and Old Empires. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Kraken (D&D)

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Not mentioned at any of the targets. Listed at Kraken_(disambiguation)#Video_and_role_playing_games and might otherwise occur in some passing mentions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:54, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Consulting my Monster Manual, Krakens are definitely a thing in D&D, but I'm not sure if they merit inclusion in Monsters in Dungeons & Dragons. Cremastra (talk) 01:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Cowled Wizards

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Not mentioned at target. Some mentions at Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:50, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Ibrandul

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No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:47, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Iyachtu Xvim

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No mention of "Iyachtu" anywhere on the English Wikipedia. "Xvim" gets a passing mention at Halls of the High King and is listed at List of Dungeons & Dragons 3rd edition monsters. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Eshowdow

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No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Gargauth

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No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Comment This is linked to from Devil (Dungeons & Dragons), albeit piped to "Gargoth". No opinion on deletion, just wanted to share that there is presently one mention on the site. 🔹Blue (talk/contribs) 01:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Amaunator

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Not mentioned at target. Gets some passing mentions at The Sundering. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion, as MfD uses subpages for the nominations like AfD but places them within the process's main page.
See Category:Candidates for speedy deletion.
See Category:Proposed deletion as of 2 September 2024.

Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2024 September 2