User talk:2A02:C7F:3A2B:3B00:5012:AA3C:4BA4:EEEA

April 2020

Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 3 hours for edit warring.

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If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  GirthSummit _(blether) 18:42, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

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Stop it

See WP:EW. I've made this a very short block just to stop the disruption at the page. When it starts up again, discuss it on the talk page - if you revert to your preferred version without discussion, the next block will be considerably longer. GirthSummit _(blether) 18:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't agree that I was partaking in edit warring, and I don't see why a revert of paid-for edits by a now indefinitely blocked user needed to be discussed first. --2A02:C7F:3A2B:3B00:5012:AA3C:4BA4:EEEA (talk) 18:47, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

2A02:C7F:3A2B:3B00:5012:AA3C:4BA4:EEEA (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

My block was for "edit warring" on the Cuck (film) page, but my initial edit was a revert of an edit by a user who has been indefinitely blocked for making paid-for edits to movie articles. I felt as though I was within my right to revert this edit without discussion, and that undoing my revert was not at all justified by the part of the other user. I don't agree that I've partaken in "edit warring" at all. 2A02:C7F:3A2B:3B00:5012:AA3C:4BA4:EEEA (talk) 18:46, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

That you think that you were correct with your edit is not a defense to edit warring; what you did does not fall under the permitted exceptions. Since you don't think you did anything wrong, there is grounds to remove the block, and I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 18:55, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

2A02:C7F:3A2B:3B00:5012:AA3C:4BA4:EEEA (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I admit I was edit warring, but I would like my block to be undone. However I do with to point out that this began over my initial revert of a indefinitely blocked user's paid-for edits. Not to mention that I do not believe the edits in question actively break any other guidelines, although the notability of the source is a matter of debate. I agree I should have handled the matter differently. I will not revert any more and will simply discuss the matter on the article talk page. 2A02:C7F:3A2B:3B00:5012:AA3C:4BA4:EEEA (talk) 18:56, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Accept reason:

Based on the commitment not to reinstate their preferred version, and to discuss the matter on the talk page before making any substantive changge to the page, I am accepting this unblock request. Play nice. GirthSummit _(blether) 19:45, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. You seem to believe that the other IP editor is a blocked editor evading their block. Can you provide any evidence for that? Also, can I just check - the page is currently at the 'wrong' version, from your perspective. Do you agree not to revert it to your preferred version, or make any other substantive change to the page, without gaining consensus on the talk page? By consensus, I mean you should thrash it out with the other editor, and ideally either agree between you, or get third parties involved - don't just say 'I'm going to change it' and then do so if they don't reply for a few hours. GirthSummit _(blether) 19:14, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't think the other IP editor is a blocked editor evading their block. I was simply pointing out that the initial edit I made that sparked the "edit war" was a revert of edits by the user Naluchanda who has been blocked indefinitely under WP:PAID. I am not making excuses, I am simply explaining my reasoning for my initial revert (not revert of the other IP user's edits, but my revert that they then reverted, which sparked the "edit war"). If my initial revert was unjustified in and of itself, then yes, I do agree to to not revert without first gaining a conscious. I simply believed that my initial edit was warranted without needing to gain a consensus first, but if I was incorrect in thinking this then I'm sorry, and yes, I will discuss the matter on the talk page until a consensus is reached. --2A02:C7F:3A2B:3B00:5012:AA3C:4BA4:EEEA (talk) 19:30, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

OK, well based on that, I'm going to accept your unblock. Please be clear - WP:3RRNO, which provides exceptions to edit warring, is very restricted. If someone inserts 'I fucked your mom' into an article, feel free to revert as many times as you like until they're blocked. Someone disagrees with you about whether/how we should report a rumour about a film? No so much. A blocked editor having advocated for a change is not a reason to revert someone else making the change; it's not even a reason to disagree with the change. Discuss the question on its merits, on the talk page. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 19:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

I feel like Columbo here, but... just one more thing. The edit summary in this edit contains an unambiguous personal attack. Not to beat about the bush - a comment like that warrants an immediate block, no matter how strongly you think you're right. Don't do that again. GirthSummit _(blether) 20:02, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

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