User talk:Ahecht/Archive 12
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Pageswap
Having recently gained page mover rights I've used your pageswap script to make a few non-controversial cleanup moves. A couple of observations:
- As I read WP:ROBIN, "Page A" has the preferred title and "Page B" has the preferred content; initiating the move on Page B rather than the other way around seems to give that page the cleaner edit history.
- Using the scrip to swap talk pages only (i.e. where a talk page has become misplaced) results in awkward title constructions like Draft:Move/Talk:Seoul National Capital Area. I guess this doesn't matter though?
Anyway, thanks for providing the script and since I'm new to this I'd appreciate any constructive advice you may have. PC78 (talk) 20:25, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- @PC78: I'm usually not too concerned with "clean" page histories, but yes, starting on "B" should give you less clutter there. I'm also not too concerned with the title of the Draft page since it is quickly deleted. You could route it through Draft talk:Move, but I think that makes the edit histories a little harder to read. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:57, 12 August 2019 (UTC)- @PC78: Sorry, I read your message a little too fast the first time, and missing that you also asked for any advice. The best I could give would be to always check all four moved pages from your contributions page until you get a feel for the sort of weird things that can happen with redirects after multiple moves. I'd also brush up on your WP:RCATs so that you can categorize moves properly (the most common ones I come across for moves are {{R from former name}}, {{R from alternative name}}, {{R from incorrect name}}, {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}}, {{R from incorrect disambiguation}}, {{R from other capitalisation}}, {{R from miscapitalisation}}, {{R from alternative spelling}}, and {{R from misspelling}}). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:52, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- @PC78: Sorry, I read your message a little too fast the first time, and missing that you also asked for any advice. The best I could give would be to always check all four moved pages from your contributions page until you get a feel for the sort of weird things that can happen with redirects after multiple moves. I'd also brush up on your WP:RCATs so that you can categorize moves properly (the most common ones I come across for moves are {{R from former name}}, {{R from alternative name}}, {{R from incorrect name}}, {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}}, {{R from incorrect disambiguation}}, {{R from other capitalisation}}, {{R from miscapitalisation}}, {{R from alternative spelling}}, and {{R from misspelling}}). --Ahecht (TALK
Speedy deletion nominations
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- @QueerEcofeminist: Thanks for catching that. That text on those pages had been in place in the Climate of Brazil article since 2010, so I had just assumed that someone would've caught any issues with it over the past 9 years, but according to the Internet Archive, the text on brcactaceae.org predates it by at least a few years. I should've done a copyvios check before forking the article. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Climate of Brazil by region
A tag has been placed on Category:Climate of Brazil by region requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
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Redirect reverted
Could you do it please? It was requested on the talk page for this article. Thanks.Oceanflynn (talk) 01:31, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
A cup of tea for you!
Thanks for supported my recent, albeit unsuccessful RfA. Your support was greatly appreciated. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:51, 28 August 2019 (UTC) |
New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello Ahecht,
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"Page notice" template: List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters
Hello! You added the "Note to editors" page notice template to the original list in July 2018. Due to size, the list has been divided into one for 1970s–2000s, and one for 2010s. The new split-off list needs the Page notice. Could you please add the template to: List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters (2010s). Thank you! Pyxis Solitary (yak) 09:16, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Pyxis Solitary: Done. Are you planning on moving the page with older characters to List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters (1970s–2000s)? --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:38, 23 September 2019 (UTC)- Hi. Thank you so much. I did move the "part 1" page to List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters: 1970s–2000s.
I followed the preference in WP:NCSPLITLIST for split article titles. Now I have to figure out how to rename the 2010s ("part 2") split as List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters: 2010s -- but not do it as a redirect. Pyxis Solitary (yak) 07:32, 24 September 2019 (UTC)- @Pyxis Solitary: Done I have page mover permissions, so I was able to move the page without creating a redirect. In the future, you can request things like that at WP:RM/TR. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:41, 24 September 2019 (UTC)- Ahecht, thank you. You might think it silly, but I am overwhelmed by your thoughtfulness and initiative. You are a generous and kind editor. Thank you. Pyxis Solitary (yak) 00:06, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Pyxis Solitary: Done I have page mover permissions, so I was able to move the page without creating a redirect. In the future, you can request things like that at WP:RM/TR. --Ahecht (TALK
- Hi. Thank you so much. I did move the "part 1" page to List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters: 1970s–2000s.
Modifying the source in the GTA table template
Have a template question for you regarding Template:GTA table. Historically, Amusement Today would release their annual Golden Ticket Awards publication listing the top 50 wood and steel coasters in the same PDF (100 coasters total) and we'd simply provide one reference to cover everything. Since about 2016 or so, it changed to only list the top 25 in each category in that publication, but on their website, they would publish the entire list at two separate links (one for wood and one for steel). So this creates a reference issue at roller coaster articles that use this table. The citation still points to main publication only, so roller coasters that rank lower than 25 aren't being cited correctly.
I know just enough to copy over the same configuration each year and update the URL at the template, but I'm not sure how to incorporate separate URLs for each year. If you can fix it for 2019, I can go back and replicate what you did for the other years that need it. Basically, when the "type" parameter in the table is specified as "wood", the reference used in the table needs to point to 2019 Top Wood. And when it's "steel", it needs to point to 2019 Top Steel. Thanks in advance for any help or advice you can lend! --GoneIn60 (talk) 15:51, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- @GoneIn60: I created a version of the template that uses the website for years since 2016 at Template:GTA table/sandbox. Try it out on a few pages, and if it works, I'll copy the code over to the main template. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:41, 10 September 2019 (UTC)- Just tested it on a wood and on a steel coaster...works great! Excellent work! Thanks for figuring it out and already gathering the URLs for each year. I'll drop a note on the talk page as a formality. Again, many thanks for your help! --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Just checking in to see if you could circle back around to this when you get a chance, thanks. --GoneIn60 (talk) 06:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- @GoneIn60: Done. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:08, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- @GoneIn60: Done. --Ahecht (TALK
- Just checking in to see if you could circle back around to this when you get a chance, thanks. --GoneIn60 (talk) 06:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- Just tested it on a wood and on a steel coaster...works great! Excellent work! Thanks for figuring it out and already gathering the URLs for each year. I'll drop a note on the talk page as a formality. Again, many thanks for your help! --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Orlando's Summer of Love Sourcing question
Help! A few years ago you pointed out a flaw in my sourcing in a stub article that was subsequently merged and deleted. Talk:Orlando,_Florida#Merger_proposal
(768073072 2017-03-01 Term coined by a single reporter is not notable enough for its own article. Merged to Orlando, Florida#Local culture)
That source was from 1998 but there is also a new 2017 source that also use the term that was not previously discussed and I wanted to ask you whether the WP:SUSTAINED coverage of the term Orlando's Summer of Love was sufficient coverage to use as the title of an article on this era in Orlando. This era in Orlando has the sourcing to show notability but needs expanded content and a title.
I need to know what to fix besides just citations and content and whether the other concerns about the subject and sources supporting deletion are actually legitimate or policy-based. I have asked the nominator and others and strangely none accept the quite valid single reporter concern or understand why the new source is relevant.
However, the nominator for deletion has/is making absurd claims. He is claiming that the single reporter concern was never the reason it was nominated for merge/deletion. His reasoning, was just it bad, not one comma of context, and that none of the fifteen sources added after our (you and I) interaction had anything to do with the subject and/or weren't expansive. etc. I am to date, having trouble reaching the deleting editor and was hoping you could somehow offer or provide some form of clarity somewhere, or help, or sanity...
please see (this will take some time):
- Requests_for_undeletion#Orlando's_Summer_of_Love.
- User_talk:Bearcat#Orlando's_Summer_of_Love (Comment)
Thank you again, Johnvr4 (talk) 19:29, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
New Page Review newsletter November 2019
Hello Ahecht,
This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.
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Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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AIDAnova in largest cruise ships
Hi! The RINA measurements are "length between perpendiculars" and "load line length", which are shorter than the total length. AIDAnova's sister ship Costa Smeralda which is the same GT was measured by Lloyd's Register has an overall length of 337 m. Every other ship in the list uses the overall length so I just wanted it to be consistent. ArcticDragonfly (talk) 13:03, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @ArcticDragonfly: Fair enough, but I would cite Lloyd's[1] since at least they get the tonnage right. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 17:32, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ "AIDAnova (9781865)". LR ships in class. Lloyd's Register. Retrieved 5 November 2019.
Bentley logo
A very alert reader noted that the company logo doesn’t quite match what we have here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bentley_logo.svg
The right wing(as you look at it, the left from the bird perspective) has eleven feathers, while the current file has ten.
I check the original uploaded by ANGELUS, the updated versions by LG4761 and Ronhjones, and each have eleven.
The transition from 11 to 10 seems to have happened when you did the svg conversion.
Can you confirm, and if so, is this something you can fix?S Philbrick(Talk) 22:04, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Sphilbrick: Strange. I don't remember what the source of the SVG was, but I thought I got it from a PDF put out by the Volkswagon Group. In any case, I updated it to a new version derived from the bitmap image on the Bentley website. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 05:49, 16 November 2019 (UTC)- I also found a source that claims that cars built by Bentley in Crewe did use a 10/10 logo instead of the 10/11 or 13/14 versions: http://www.car-brand-names.com/bentley-logo/. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:06, 16 November 2019 (UTC)- Ahecht,
- Thanks for your very prompt attention to this.
- Thanks also for the link to the interesting article talking about the various number of hackles. My guess is that explains what happened — given that some cars at some times had 10 each, you probably found one of those and used it. The closing sentence of the first paragraph suggests that all 11 and 10 are seen more often so I think that's the way to go.
- I did give a link to this discussion to the person that brought it up, so I hope they will see how quickly were you responded. S Philbrick(Talk) 20:15, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- I also found a source that claims that cars built by Bentley in Crewe did use a 10/10 logo instead of the 10/11 or 13/14 versions: http://www.car-brand-names.com/bentley-logo/. --Ahecht (TALK
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Module science & R-templates
Hello. :) We spoke about the R-templates and module science redirect a fair while back (summer last year I think?), but I've been absent until recently. Now that I'm back, I've been making some progress on getting things sorted into the existing parameter-defined categories, and I can confirm there definitely are enough redirects for molluscs and for amphibians lingering in there. You said something about those parameters existing but having commented them out in the module due to the absence of their accompanying categories, iirc?
From what I can tell/remember, not only did no one object to the originally activated batch of parameters, just about no one commented at all. (Then again, the number of folks doing any significant amount of taxon redirect templating/categorization can be count on one hand anyway.)
Do you figure there's any good spot to see if there's consensus for activating those two parameters and creating the accompanying categories? My first thought would have been the talk page of the science redirect module, but it doesn't seem that one gets more than a handful of views each month tops. Talk page of each of the relevant templates have pretty much the same issue and would split up the discussion across multiple places. Rinse and repeat for the associated category talk pages. AddWittyNameHere 06:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- @AddWittyNameHere: My best suggestion would be at either Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Animals. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 12:52, 21 November 2019 (UTC)- Thanks! Probably WikiProject Redirect with some quick cross-notifications to Tree of Life and Animals, then. I'll see if I can't whip up a post some point soon (though probably not today). AddWittyNameHere 18:52, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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This does not seem to handle the case of both a template and module with {{high-risk}} well. For example, Template:Age and Module:Age both show 28000 transclusions when Module:Age actually has more than 900000 transclusions. Thanks for doing Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Ahechtbot_6, by the way, which is definitely a good idea. Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:37, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Galobtter: Good catch! As a short-term answer I disabled the database lookup when in the module namespace. I'll look into having the bot retrieve transclusion counts for modules as well. --Ahecht (TALK
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Color modules
Hi, the Miami Dolphins color scheme in navboxes and infoboxes makes the text black instead of white, do you know how to fix this? I noticed you made a change here to Module:Gridiron color but I'm not familiar enough with modules to know if that was the cause. Any help would be appreciated, thanks! Eagles 24/7 (C) 02:59, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Eagles247: That's by design. White text only has a contrast ratio of 3.95 on that background (see https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/?fcolor=FFFFFF&bcolor=008E97), which is lower than the requirement of 4.5. Black text has a contrast ratio of 5.31. See MOS:CONTRAST for more info. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:19, 13 December 2019 (UTC)- Thanks for the clarification, I'll update the team templates to reflect this. Eagles 24/7 (C) 16:25, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
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- Reviewer of the Year
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Moog move
Thanks for the help with the move discussion, doing the user pings and whatnot. Popcornduff (talk) 18:05, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
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"Page notice" template
Hello, Ahecht. Happy New Year! You've added the "Note to editors" page notice template to the List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters: 1970s–2000s and List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters: 2010s. A new list has been created for the 2020s: List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters: 2020s. Could you please add the page notice to this new page? Thank you! Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 03:48, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Pyxis Solitary: Done. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 23:50, 4 January 2020 (UTC)- Thank you! I guess you won't be hearing from me again until another ten years. Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 03:00, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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87,000 possible pages for your bot task 2
I just stumbled across Cyberbot signatures that are causing multiple missing end tags in each signature, and there are sometimes multiple signatures on a page.
This is one search that shows 87,000 pages.
One whole pattern I found looks like:
[[User:Cyberbot II|<span style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberbot II]] [[User talk:Cyberbot II|<sup style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Notify]]
And should be changed to:
[[User:Cyberbot II|<span style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberbot II</span>]] [[User talk:Cyberbot II|<sup style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Notify</sup>]]
There may be variants of this signature out there. I'm happy to search for more after an initial bot run. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:39, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Follow-up: I just noticed that Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Ahechtbot 5 is the latest run, and that we discussed some additional signatures there from my doi.js file. I hope that you are still willing to chip away at this iceberg. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:43, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: Good find on the Cyberbot one. I'll put together a bot request in the near future. How many of the specific signatures in your doi.js are issues that are still problems and are in scope for a bot run? I don't think there is consensus to run a bot with general fixes, so I'd only be targeting specific signatures. Some, like the SNUGGUMS one, I've already run the bot for. Others, like swapping <font> for <span> (fixes deprecated, but not necessarily erroneous, usage) or fixing signatures that aren't the correct color because the <font> or <span> tags are outside the link but not actually producing bad HTML, are minor enough that it's not worth running a bot to edit every single page where they exist. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:03, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: Good find on the Cyberbot one. I'll put together a bot request in the near future. How many of the specific signatures in your doi.js are issues that are still problems and are in scope for a bot run? I don't think there is consensus to run a bot with general fixes, so I'd only be targeting specific signatures. Some, like the SNUGGUMS one, I've already run the bot for. Others, like swapping <font> for <span> (fixes deprecated, but not necessarily erroneous, usage) or fixing signatures that aren't the correct color because the <font> or <span> tags are outside the link but not actually producing bad HTML, are minor enough that it's not worth running a bot to edit every single page where they exist. --Ahecht (TALK
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excel2wiki
Hey I'm using tables with many empty columns and rows, that should not appear in the wiki. This might be a common problem, so if there is an easy way to modify your Tool, it would be of great help could you enable auto deletion of empty rows and columns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sj4jc (talk • contribs) 10:18, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Sj4jc: That's sort of out of scope for what Excel2Wiki is supposed to do. While it might be possible to remove empty rows, removing empty columns would require a complete re-write. You'd be better off removing the empty rows and columns in excel before copying and pasting. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:24, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Current other
Template:Current other has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:32, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Request for review
Hi Ahecht! I would like to request you for reviewing my draft page Epos 257 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Epos_257). I know that it was already reviewed and unfortunately declined, nevertheless I have rewritten it and I would like to ask you very much to check the article if at least a little possible...Thank you very much! Regards Jiří Jiří Gruber (talk) 12:51, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Jiří Gruber: I wasn't involved with the original review, so unfortunately you're either going to have to wait in the queue or contact Bkissin, the original reviewer. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:25, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
Raytheon Technologies
Hi, here's IP user 2409:8A62:1E14:84E0:5461:8A51:F0D2:ADC8, I hope you can creating new article for Raytheon Technologies and revert current Raytheon Technologies to previous United Technologies. Thanks, have a good day ! - 2409:8A62:1E14:84E0:5461:8A51:F0D2:ADC8 (talk) 14:37, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- @2409:8A62:1E14:84E0:5461:8A51:F0D2:ADC8: Done. There are now three articles: United Technologies, Raytheon Company, and Raytheon Technologies. Raytheon is now a redirect to Raytheon Technologies. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:52, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:Boardwalk Pipeline Partners logo.png
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Raytheon Technologies
Thanks for creating the new Raytheon Technologies article. I would have done the same thing had I still been awake at the time the UTC article was moved. I wanted to start on the new article last night, but wasn't able to get to it. Thanks again. - BilCat (talk) 19:50, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Guam
You have a much better handle on the technicalities of the medical cases chart. I wanted to try to fill in the red link for Guam. Maybe the reason it has not been attempted is the difficulty in presenting the information. The basic Department of Health presents its data here complete with history. But the major factor is the US Navy, and in particular the noteworthy arrival of the USS Teddy Roosevelt with its crew infected. The Navy is not apparently presenting clear data, USA Today has tracked it here as best they can. Because of the Roosevelt and the subsequent firing of the captain and his potential reinstatement, this is a front line story to track. How do we present this? Trackinfo (talk) 06:15, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Trackinfo: While I'm familiar with the templates from the technical side of things, I'm not that familiar with the content side. That would be a better questions for WP:MED. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:16, 11 April 2020 (UTC)- I'll bring up the content issues there, thank you. When we present this data, with the two divergent pieces of information (DoH figures for the public, conjectured figures for the military) we will need your help to present the two tracks, and possibly adding the note in the time line of the date the ship arrived in port and when sailors were dispersed. Note also, there appear to be other infected ships out there and they may end up in other locations. Trackinfo (talk) 20:07, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Autopatrolled granted
Hi Ahecht, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:06, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Michigan medical cases chart
Since you changed the format of the chart to something much less intuitive to read, will you be handling the daily updates? Because the data was updated hours ago. Guettarda (talk) 22:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Guettarda: The majority of medical cases charts already used this new format before I switched the ones over. The new format is virtually identical to the old one except that it uses ';' instead of '|', and you no longer need to specify the divisor and the numwidth on each row. Nothing has changed in how you do the updates other than which key you press in between values. For today's update, for example, instead of
{{Medical cases chart/Row|2020-04-15|1921||28059|||28,059|+1058||+4%|divisor=100|numwidth-mmnm}}
- You just have to enter
2020-04-15;1921;;28059;;;28,059;+1058;;+4%
- With the old format, you would've had to replace the divisor for every row with today's update, since a divisor of 100 causes the table to overflow. With the new format, you just have to change it once, or you can just delete the
|divisor=100
line altogether and the template can calculate it for you. Behind the scenes, deprecating the old format will allow the template to be made more efficient, which will be important as these charts get longer and longer. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 22:47, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, I can figure it out and updated up. But as I said, it's much harder to read. So I'm just asking that since you made the change, would you please commit to keeping the page updated? I'm happy if you're willing to take over the task. But please get it done on time. Thanks. Guettarda (talk) 22:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Guettarda: I'm working more on a behind-the-scenes overhaul to take advantage of the
|data=
format to drastically reduce the impact this template has on large pages, and I unfortunately don't have time to update the 450 individual location templates as well. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 22:56, 15 April 2020 (UTC)- [what's the point] Guettarda (talk) 23:08, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Guettarda: I'm working more on a behind-the-scenes overhaul to take advantage of the
- Yeah, I can figure it out and updated up. But as I said, it's much harder to read. So I'm just asking that since you made the change, would you please commit to keeping the page updated? I'm happy if you're willing to take over the task. But please get it done on time. Thanks. Guettarda (talk) 22:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Medical cases chart broken?
It appears that the change you made has broken Template:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic data/Canada/British Columbia medical cases chart in a way I can't determine. Can you please have a look and see what's gone wrong? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 03:41, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Premeditated Chaos: Fixed. I had tested it a ton in the sandbox, but that was apparently an edge case I hadn't checked. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 04:12, 17 April 2020 (UTC)- Thanks for fixing it so fast! ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
China medical cases template
For some reason, neither of internet browser programms does not open Mainland China template correctly. After yesterday till now. All other countries are shown correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheldon73b talk contribs (talk • contribs) 19:57, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Sheldon73b: Working on it. It appears to be a problem with how it's automatically calculating the divisor. I have a fix in the sandbox, and will deploy shortly after a little more testing to make sure I didn't break anything else. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:01, 18 April 2020 (UTC)- @Sheldon73b: Fixed. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Sheldon73b: Fixed. --Ahecht (TALK
AD year talk pages
I have reverted your edits to 11 AD year talk pages that replaced the whole page with {{WPDisambig}}. Those talk pages are the talk pages of AD year articles, not of disambiguation pages. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:17, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- @GeoffreyT2000: Thanks. I think I was tagging them at right around the same time they were being moved, so I probably ended up tagging the wrong pages. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 23:22, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Terry Ray
I noticed you reverted an edit on Terry Ray (boxer). I was just about to file an editor assistance request but figured I’d see if you could advise me instead. What’s the next step in a content dispute if an editor refuses all attempts at discussion? Thanks. – 2.O.Boxing 23:55, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Squared.Circle.Boxing: probably WP:DRN or, failing that, WP:ANI. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:00, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
I was going to try DRN but wasn’t sure if it was the right place as there’s been no discussion. I’ll give it a try if the content is removed again. Thanks very muchly. – 2.O.Boxing 00:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Squared.Circle.Boxing: There's also WP:AN/3RR. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 00:20, 24 April 2020 (UTC)- I’ll go there now seeing as that was the fourth revert. Thanks for the advise. – 2.O.Boxing 00:30, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
April 2020
Explain how the edit “did not appear to be constructive”, rather than sending some automated message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:3FB0:300:D4D4:59A2:4EA1:2479 (talk) 01:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I thought I had including the reason in my edit summary. "Focused" is the more common spelling. While some people do spell it "focussed" in the UK, arbitrarily changing between regional spelling variations is frowned upon (se WP:ENGVAR). --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 01:36, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
“Focussed” isn't regional because it’s used across the whole of England, but ignoring that supposed fact, the hyphen is still necessary.
- Fair enough. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 13:36, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Recent changes patrolling
Thanks for being a recent changes patroller! I was reviewing edits recently and you beat me to correcting several! Dar-Ape 15:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)