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César Santin

Hi. Please see Talk:César Santín#Name. Thank you. kalaha 17:44, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.

The Emirates Stadium capacity is 60,355

Please stop changing the article to an incorrect figure - any further reversions of my edits and I'll be forced to block you. As for IPA, not only is it unnecessary for the English language Wikipedia, it is also incorrect - you have not provided the IPA for the word "Stadium". Qwghlm (talk) 13:54, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Just for the record: I have never changed the figure for the stadium's capacity, so your threats are absurd. Aikclaes (talk) 10:40, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Norwich City F.C.

I'm puzzled by this. Either you intended to put it in the Norwich article, or you've missed off more than half of the pronunciation. --Dweller (talk) 15:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Wrong info

Hi there CLAES, VASCO from Portugal here,

In Sebastián Eguren, you have made a mistake (we all do), saying that he moved to AIK permanently. Then, you wrote in storyline that he must return to VILLARREAL because he still has 12 months in his contract?! That is precisely why it is a LOAN, player must report to old club to decide his future.

I also improved article with a new reference, please do not remove the correct info, maybe we can all work together as a team. You told some user to look at the reference where the transfer to AIK is referred. Well, i know ZERO Swedish, so i don't know what the article says, but if it says it is a permanent transfer, it is WRONG, it's a loan.

Continue the good work, nice weekend,

VASCO - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 04:13, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

• Very strange indeed, but then, what can surprise you in the world of modern football? If he has to return to Villarreal, how on earth it's not a loan? Oh well...I have total faith in your explanations, so you can update the player's page (in the AIK transfer paragraph) as you wish, i won't revert it.

Sorry for any incovenience, cheers,

VASCO - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 18:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

• Nice work man. I only made some corrections to your last inputs.

1 - In an encyclopedia, we must write always in past tense, so i made some tense adjustments, without altering contents one bit.

2 - Eguren could be, i'll give you that, a CENTRAL MIDFIELDER - but i think he is a DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER with a good scoring rate. What he is not, 100% sure, is a DEEP-FORWARD, ATTACKING MIDFIELDER or SECOND STRIKER, no way, i corrected that.

3 - I think the club's name should be compressed in box only, not storyline. Therefore, please leave AIK FOTBOLL in story, AIK in box.

Feel free to give me your views on that, cheers,

VASCO - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 21:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

• Response to response :)

1 - 100 % clear. UPDATE: Ah, i see what you mean, it's just that i see WP as an encyclopedia, even though it is a "special one". At least i ALWAYS write in past tense, but i don't own the truth.

2 - No, i disagree. I think the player's main position should be the one appearing in INTRO. In storyline, perhaps we could write "In his spell at AIK, he was used mainly as a X or a Y". What i can tell you is that at Villarreal he was a defensive unit, even playing as central defender.

3 - Just for a matter of display, really. I think the club's fullname - the fullname at WP, not the full name of the organization - should appear in story, just once (intro and once in body of article that is), just for matter of display and informative purposes.

Cheers, take care,

VASCO, Portugal - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 22:40, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

• I did not remove anything man, i merely composed it. That piece in intro has got to go in three months 1/2 - when he returns to Villarreal - that is why i though it should only be in storyline, not in intro. Sorry for any incovenience.

Have a fine week, VASCO - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 17:10, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

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AIK Fotboll

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Please do not add a wikilink for Alhassan Kamara. He is not notable since he fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL, he has not yet made any appearances in a professional league or played for a senior national team, therefore a wikilink for him shouldn't be added. If you have any questions, just write to me at my talk page. Thanks. --Reckless182 (talk) 20:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi, he is quite notable due to being the focal point of a documentary film. Maybe if I include info about that on the page? Aikclaes (talk) 21:22, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

He is only notable if he meets either WP:GNG or WP:NFOOTBALL. I'm sure he will play for AIK when Allsvenskan starts, why not just wait until then? --Reckless182 (talk) 21:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

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Dubai transliteration

Your transliteration and IPA notation for the name Dubai weren't Arabic and the transliteration was erroneously tagged as DIN 31635. Somebody corrected the transliteration and I corrected the Arabic pronunciation. Thanks. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 14:08, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Aikclaes (talk) 08:33, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hi. Thanks for pointing that out. I have made a new filing now and I hope it's correct. Otherwise please tell me what's wrong about it. Aikclaes (talk) 13:04, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi. No, it isn't. You've once again overwritten the instructions; once again you discussed the matter on the 3O page; and again you did not link to the talk page. However, now that it's being discussed by several more editors at WT:MOS, this issue is no longer a candidate for a third opinion. Sorry. --Stfg (talk) 13:16, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for you time. Aikclaes (talk) 13:27, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

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Henok Goitom - Compromise

Hi there CLAES, from Portugal (this is the same guy from the message titled "Wrong info", now without an account, I had a serious run-in with a troll and asked an admin to vanish my account because I had the intention of leaving forever, guess I cannot, I'm wiki-hooked),

Can we please reach some compromise here? Tons of articles have the CLUB CAREER starting with the place where the player was born, but OK, out of respect for your work we'll leave it like that. However, if possible, please "work with me" in two things: 1 - full name of club in intro, compression is for box; 2 - we could title the section "Early life" since it's in the beginning of article, rather that "Personal life", don't you agree?

Granted, "AIK Fotboll" is the club's official name, but this moniker is very rarely used in Swedish media. It's not like Liverpool, where the media sometimes writes "Liverpool FC". In Sweden, it's just "AIK". Aikclaes (talk) 12:23, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for any inconvenience, continue the good work --84.90.219.128 (talk) 20:19, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

• Also, a small favour if you can: I have just improved Kennedy Bakircioglu's article significantly, with several references. But can you add a translation to the source #20? I can't make anything of it. Happy 2016, thank you in advance! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 15:53, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I have added a reference, as you requested. Feel free to tidy it up, becuase am bad at this. Happy new year! Aikclaes (talk) 12:23, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your assistance, but there is still something missing in Bakircioglu's article. Could you please translate the title of the reference #20 ("Kennedy sköt upp Bajen till allsvenskan")? Have a pleasant 2016 as well! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 16:53, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

• Well, is it possible to translate Kennedy's reference #20 or not (I imagine that, being Swedish, it will only take you 30 seconds or so)? If I am bothering, at least direct me to another Swedish user so I can ask them please. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 03:48, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Done. Sorry about the delay. Aikclaes (talk) 06:13, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

No problems, sometimes I forget (most) users have a real life away from all of this... Thanks, all the best! --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:15, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Small favour

Not for me, my fellow user, for our WP... Can you please arrange a reference (one will be enough, don't want do give you too much trouble) in Swedish for Andreas Ravelli's storyline (with reference to his main clubs and his 41 caps for Sweden)? An overzealous admin has removed the entire storyline twice, and I don't think there will be anything available for this guy in English, other than the fact he is Thomas' brother (already sourced).

If you can't or won't do it, don't worry I understand. Thank you for listening and happy weekend --Be Quiet AL (talk) 20:50, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

• I tried to start it myself, but my level of Swedish is close to ZERO, and most of the refs (even though I type "Andreas (not Thomas, ANDREAS!) Ravelli" in the search engine (Swedish Yahoo)) speak more of his brother than himself... --Be Quiet AL (talk) 18:19, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Well? Nothing can be done man? The storyline will soon be removed, I know that administrator... --Be Quiet AL (talk) 22:56, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, not interested. Aikclaes (talk) 11:54, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

• No problems, happy editing --Be Quiet AL (talk) 17:01, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

It varies, sometimes they call him Adrien, sometimes Silva. What he has on his shirt is irrelevant I think, I remember when Guti (footballer) played and he had GUTI HAZ on his shirt to honour his children; Portuguese sport broadcasters have this horrible custom of addressing 99,9999999999999999% of the footballers by two names (and sometimes THREE, Nuno André Coelho) 99,9999999999999999% of the time, you can trust me on this.

Also, I apologize for my summary that seemed to irritate you, but it was never my intention to do so even though I admit it was a bit exaggerated. What I meant by "I am Portuguese OK?" was that because of my nationality I have/had knowledge of this, not meaning I am a better editor than you or anyone because of that. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 20:37, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Your argument didn't irritate me. I just quoted you verbatim. It's up to other readers to decide if your argument about being Portuguese is valid. Aikclaes (talk) 05:54, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

OK, I am glad you are not upset. Regarding this whole issue, I have now started a discussion at WP:FOOTY, please leave your opinion there if you want, it would be appreciated. --Be Quiet AL (talk) 20:14, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

• You declined to participate in the discussion (maybe you were not aware of it even though I mentioned in the line above I was starting one, not accusing you of anything, just pointing it out, mistakes happen), as pretty much everyone. No worries fellow user, article stays how you want. I will keep my opinion on how the player should be addressed to myself.

Happy editing --Be Quiet AL (talk) 19:17, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Couldn't find the discussion.

It has already been moved to the archives (please read here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_104#Naming_customs_with_a_Portuguese_approach). --Be Quiet AL (talk) 01:45, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

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@Bob von Schlumpfenberg: There is a reason for this. Because I want the maps to look good in both mobile and desktop view, I edit and save in desktop view and then review the saved edit in mobile view. Aikclaes (talk) 06:39, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Having said that, I will try to reduce the number of edits, to help other views review my edits. Getting better all the time. :) Aikclaes (talk) 08:43, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

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IPA for Brighton and Hove

Hello. Personally, I think the IPA should cover Hove as well. Presumably the IPA is there primarily to help the reader unfamiliar with BritEng pronunciation, and Hove could just as likely rhyme with Love or Prove as with Stove. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Struway2 Thanks for your comment. I totally agree, especially since "Hove" can be tricky to pronounce, as you mentioned. My issue was just that it would be more elegant to have IPA for the full club name. Now the IPA just covers part of the name. Or break out "Brighton & Hove" and have IPA for just that, but since the club rarely is referred to that way, as you pointed out, that's wouldn't be good either. So better leave it till someone smarter than me comes up with a solution. :) Aikclaes (talk) 10:35, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

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Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:54, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jimfbleak, thanks for your reply. I have nothing to do with the company (or AIK). I thought I could write a decent start for the article, and then other users could improve it to meet all the standards. I didn't know everything had to be perfect straight away. Aikclaes (talk) 11:37, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for that clarification. It's not a matter of "perfect", it's a matter of meeting our requirements. If you post an article in article space, you are indicating that you think it is ready for publication, and it will be assessed on that basis. If you don't want that to happen, then write it as a draft initially. Drafts have a degree of protection because they can't be deleted on notability or referencing issues alone, but they can still be deleted for other problems such as copyright violations and advertising. For obvious reasons, article about companies or products are particularly likely to attract scrutiny Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:12, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for your help Jimfbleak.

January 2019

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on Dimitar Berbatov. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:14, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

FC Seoul article

Thanks for polishing article. Where are you from? In current English trend, Hyphen is not used a lot. Mobile phone more used than Mobile-phone.Footwiks (talk) 14:20, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Footwiks. True, "mobile phone" is correct and "mobile-phone" is incorrect. But in this case we're talking about a compound modifier, so it should be written "mobile-phone company". You can read about this on the wiki page for compound modifier. (I grew up in England and have a degree in English linguistics.) Aikclaes (talk) 02:04, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

I saw now you have changed back my corrections. After you have read up on compound modifiers, maybe you can correct the article? I was planning on continuing to polish the article, but if I have discuss basic stuff like this I can't be bothered. Aikclaes (talk) 02:14, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Henok Goitom

Hello there,

I tried to bring the article in accordance with WP policy regarding football articles, several times (the guideline is, for athletes with double nationality, to leave the last nationality (in Mr. Goitom's case Eritrean) or none at all, explaining the situation in the last line of intro). Unfortunately, even though I explain it in the summary, you are not accepting the change.

I have tried a new approach, maybe you will allow this one (but please, we are not supposed to write "X-born Y footballer" in the lede, please ask at WP:FOOTY to see that I am not lying)? Thank you. --193.137.135.2 (talk) 12:00, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the info. I will do like you say from now on. Aikclaes (talk) 12:07, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you as well for the reply. Continue the good work --193.137.135.2 (talk) 09:20, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

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Sam-Cooke

Greetings. This is a partial-apology. When I saw you initial reasons for your re-revert (a hyphen is really useful here!), my initial impression was of a barracks room lawyer (does that need to be hyphenated?) enforcing the minutiae of arcane Wikipedian rules. When I finally looked at your User page, I discovered that you are an expert on the subject, and the article, which I skimmed, showed that what you and your fellow grammarians are doing may, in fact, be useful. My main point about my strong-side-of-middling-erudition is not how special I am, but that I've been looking at "Civil Rights" for a long time without ever seeing a hyphen before your edit. It looked like change for its own sake, without substance, and I reverted it. That was a mistake.

When I read, "You should be happy"—or much worse, "You should be grateful"—I assume that I'm dealing with someone who thinks that his/her tucchus is candy. I did myself no good by mocking you, but it was fun.

As I said above, what you and others interested in clear communications are doing looks useful, so I apologize for mocking it. I apologize to myself for mocking you. Regards Tapered (talk) 00:20, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Tapered for the explanation and partial apology. Well, you did write my edit was stupid before I said you should be happy for it. Anyway, all the best. Aikclaes (talk) 14:37, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes I did. I thought it pointless, and that replication would be stupid. That was a mistake, also. Regards Tapered (talk) 09:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

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Hi SummerPhDv2.0. I found it weird that on the band's wiki page Wham are categorized as "pop" while the songs I edited are categorized using the much narrower genre "dance-pop", a genre that, in my opinion, came into prominence in the late 80s and is more electronic sounding. That's why I changed the songs to the wider definition "pop". I think categorizing these songs as "dance-pop" would need sources, but hardly needed for "pop". What are your thoughts on this? Aikclaes (talk) 03:09, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

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Space opera

Please do not change references to space opera to be space-opera. This term is not hyphenated, and you are changing direct links to redirect links that only go back to space opera anyway. I notice you've been doing this for some time now. Canterbury Tail talk 18:20, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Canterbury Tail, may I humbly advise you to educate yourself on a subject before miscorrecting? You seem to be unaware of the grammatical phenomenon called compound modifiers. There is a Wikipedia article about it. There they use the example phrases "heavy metal detector" and "heavy-metal detector" to make the difference obvious. A "space opera franchise", without the hyphen, is an opera franchise set in space. Aikclaes (talk) 15:39, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

You are changing direct links to be indirect links that just redirect back. The actual space opera article disagrees with you as to the naming and grammatical construction of the genre. The genre is named without a hyphen, no matter the compound construction normal in everyday English. If you have an issue with the hyphenation you should take it up at the space opera article, but for now please stop changing direct links to be indirect links that disagree with the article. Additionally per WP:BRD, you have boldly made changes, it's been disagreed with, it's up to you to get consensus for the change and to not re-revert. Canterbury Tail talk 15:59, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

You don't understand the point, Canterbury Tail. I have no issue with spelling the genre "space opera", without an hyphen. But in this case, it's a compund modifier, and should be hyphenated. Did you even read the Wiki article on the subject to educate yourself before miscorrecting again? I had this exact same debate with one or two others a few years back, and they read the article on compound modifiers and realized they were wrong. Consensus was reached, 100%. Aikclaes (talk) 16:15, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I've self reverted while I read up on it. Wikipedia isn't a source, so I'm reading around the other sources. Seems I may well have been far too hasty and harsh and do indeed actually owe you an apology for this. The thing that trips me up is that "space opera" on itself is a solid term and it seems odd to amend something that's ostensibly a noun, but being converted to an adjective. I think that's the bit my brain is rebelling against. And it seems that's a usual exception, if they're both or are collectively a noun, it's normally not hyphenated. Even the Wikipedia page you pointed me to states that as an exception which would render the compound modifier correct as "space opera" and not "space-opera" according to the article and the sources. Canterbury Tail talk 16:41, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

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Please stop. If you continue to change genres without discussion or sources, as you did at West End Girls, you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 15:55, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Wow, that escalated super quickly in a passive aggressive way. Bringing out the block threat straight away. Classy. The existing genre labels also

don't have

sources. And you mean to tell me there was a vibrant disco scene in the mid 80s? Trese wasn't. Disco had been dead for half a decade. The song has all the trade marks of post-disco. A bit sad you aren't capable of acknowledging that. Aikclaes (talk) 16:06, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

If the existing genres aren't sourced they should be removed.

Regarding your change to to post-disco: We have a guideline at WP:EXPLICITGENRE that does not allow for the kind of contemplation of context that you engaged in. If a source says "disco" but you know that it occurred after the main disco scene, you would still enter the genre of "disco". Binksternet (talk) 16:14, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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