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Edit-warring on Subramanian Swamy

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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 15:00, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Jasleen Kaur harassment controversy

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Hi, I feel rather flattered that you asked me to review your draft. I don't know anything whatsoever about this event and I note above that it was moved to draftspace because it "does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published". That is something I cannot help you with, also I don't have time to check the sources and make sure the article cites them accurately. All I can do is a little copy-editing and make suggestions to keep the language neutral. So:

  • In the lead it says "She received widespread support for raising her voice against eve-teasing" - I was not familiar with this expression and had to google it. I see that it is common in South Asia and there is an article about it here Eve teasing. Suggest you link to it.
  • " a purported eyewitness vouched for Sarvjeet's innocence which brought credibility to Sarvjeet's account" Why does it say "purported" eyewitness? Is there doubt as to whether this person really was an eyewitness? Don't need to say "which brought credibility to Sarvjeet's account" as that is a given if the eyewitness vouched for his innocence.
  • "the Indian court acquitted Sarvjeet of all the charges and Sarvjeet was acquitted of all the charges" that is saying the same thing twice. once is enough
  • Background section
  • On August 23rd, 2015, Jasleen Kaur, a student of St. Stephen's College, posted a picture of a man claiming he passed obscene comments on her during an argument on road" should be "On August 23rd, 2015, Jasleen Kaur, a student at St. Stephen's College, posted a picture of a man claiming he passed obscene comments at her during an argument on the road."
  • There are lots of grammatical mistakes in Facebook post but since that is, I suppose, a direct quote, it doesn't matter but can you translate "Jo kar sakti hai kar le. Complaint karke dikha, fir dekhiyo kya karta hun main" - leave the original but put the translation in italics and add (translation)
  • That's about all I can say, I hope it was a little help. Regards,Smeat75 (talk) 22:09, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


@Smeat75: Thanks a lot for reviewing.
  • Regarding it being moved to draftspace, I requested the guy to move it to draftspace as I had directly made the article on the mainspace. At that time, the article was half done. I have added more than double the sources compared to that time.
  • Oh, I didn't know 'Eve teasing' is common only in the South Asia. Will link it.
  • Yes, the accuser has claimed that the eyewitness could be a 'plant' by the defendant.
  • Will take care of the other errors pointed out as well.
Amazingcaptain (talk) 14:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stop disruptive editing

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Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Marathi people, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you Useralways1 (talk) 20:35, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Last time I checked, removing vandalizing edits didn't count as disruptive editing. Maybe if you stop vandalizing you won't get blocked the next time. Amazingcaptain (talk) 20:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit-warring on Subramanian Swamy

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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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This[1] is tendentious editing / vandalism. The citation is at the end of the sentence, as has already been pointed out to you. Serious competence issues. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 15:17, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Snooganssnoogans: This is totally uncalled for. I had asked you on the Talk page of the page and had left the message for 4-5 days to cite the source before making that change but you ignored my question. The source at the end of the sentence doesn't mention that the party is a right wing party. I asked to show me if it is but you didn't.
The citation is for a book and page number, and it literally verbatim says that the party, which Swamy belongs to, is right-wing. I'm not going to buy and send you a book or whatever nonsense it is that you're now requesting from me. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 16:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Snooganssnoogans: Never asked that, anyway could you quote the exact quote from the book that says "Janata Party" is a right wing party? I'll look it up myself if it exists in the book.
The book literally says "right-wing Janata Party" on the cited page. What more do you want? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 19:14, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Snooganssnoogans: Nope. If this is what you are talking about, it doesn't. It talks about Janata Dal, and not Janata party. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=asyxDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT196#v=onepage&q&f=false. If it's something else, let me know.

I am being accused of edit warring on Subramanian Swamy

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Hi,

In the article Subramanian Swamy, there exists a statement that says "Swamy was one of the founding members of the right-wing Janata Party". I couldn't find a reference that Janata Party is a right-wing party. There is a citation at the end of the sentence which links to this book - http://worldcat.org/oclc/1090162885. I cannot access the book, however I searched extensively regarding "Janata Party" being a right wing party, even searched for quotes in this book and I couldn't find any references for it. Since I couldn't find anything, I added an inline 'citation needed' next to it. An editor reverted my changes saying that the citation is already present. I did not revert their changes but started a conversation on the talk page and asked them to provide the source for it as I clearly couldn't find it anywhere. Even the exact statement/quote from the book would have sufficed. I waited for 3 days but they didn't reply however they were active on the site so I added the inline "citation needed" again. They again revert it without providing any information and add an edit warring warning on my talk page.

This same user in the past was edit warring claiming Subramanian Swamy is Anti-Muslim and said it is referenced in sources when in reality the referenced articles didn't mention anything about Swamy being being known for being Anti-Muslim. At that time also they added an Edit Warring warning on my talk page.

In both of this cases, they are failing to maintain an NPOV which is against BLP guidelines.

Can someone please tell me if I am in the wrong here and anything I could have differently since I think I have followed all the guidelines, started a discussion, waited for a reasonable time. This user on the other hand didn't wish to communicate at all and just reverts my changes adds edit-warring warnings on my talk page. I totally understand this party may be a right-wing party, I just don't like this behavior.

Someone please help me on this.

PS --- A quote from WP:BRD: "All editors are welcome to make positive contributions. It's how new information is added to Wikipedia. When in doubt, edit! Similarly, if you advance a potential contribution on the article's talk page, and no response is received after a reasonable amount of time, go ahead and make your contribution." It says if a response is not received on the talk page, edit. Which is what I did.

Amazingcaptain (talk) 18:32, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As I've already explained to you, you are in a dispute, you need to solve it on the talk page and if you're still unable to do so, you can try WP:DRN. Please don't use the help me template to complain about other editors or pull people to your disputes. Praxidicae (talk) 18:51, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Praxidicae: I can't use WP:DRN as it says before posting there I must have an extensive discussion on the talk page. Since I haven't gotten any response over there yet, I cannot post there. This is what was written on WP:DRN: "It's best to discuss your concerns with the other users on the talk page of the article before seeking dispute resolution. You can find instructions on how to do this at this page, or you can place {helpme} on your own talk page, and a volunteer will come by your page to help." Thanks. Amazingcaptain (talk) 19:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And you're not going to speed up that discussion by endlessly canvassing or forum shopping. Wait for a response. There is no time frame required for them to respond or anyone else. You simply wait. Praxidicae (talk) 19:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Praxidicae: I disagree on that. If on an actively edited page you do not get response for a reasonable period, you simply edit. Please read WP:BRD It's not even like I edited multiple times on the same day. I waited for three days and no one mentioned anything. Amazingcaptain (talk) 19:22, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like there are a few discussions happening on the talk page, which as mentioned above is the ideal location to hold such discussions. Primefac (talk) 19:07, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Amazingcaptain, good luck, and have fun. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:00, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I have some other issues with how you edit (WP:TENDENTIOUS, as other editors have pointed out) as well as you claiming that any information you happen to dislike is not NPOV, even if it is well-sourced. However, I am here to bring your attention to WP:NCCAPS. Please do not use extraneous capital letters in section headers. RedHotPear (talk) 04:26, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RedHotPear Thanks for pointing out. Can you show me an instance where I've removed something that was well-sourced?
I've had two issues on the Subramanian Swamy page. One was "Swamy is known for being Anti-Muslim." which was unsourced (ironically, I was pointed out WP:TENDENTIOUS by the editor who was edit warring unsourced anti-muslim). The second was "Right-wing Janata Party", as I said earlier the source didn't mention about Janata Party being a right-wing party but "Janata Dal" a right wing party. And both are separate parties. So, I added a "citation needed" on it.
Regarding WP:NCCAPS, I don't know where have I violated this and I would be glad if you showed me. Amazingcaptain (talk) 06:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Refer to my talk page comments; while "known for" was too strong, the "anti-Muslim" descriptor in general comes directly out of reliable sources. You have also made several edits claiming that certain content is either unsourced or not neutral, when neither was the case. Instead, you seemed to be selectively editing out information that you perceived to be unfavorable to Swamy. BLP requires balance and caution, not removing all content that you think is negative.
With regard to NCCAPS, I am referring to the "Family and Personal life" section header that you edited in as well as your proposed restructuring on the talk page. RedHotPear (talk) 06:32, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stop clearing those informations on Bono people article

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I don't know your motive but whatever it is, do not erase those informations. It is very relevant for research purposes and those informations are highly sourced, of which you can refer to them if you don't understand anything. Wikipedia is for everyone, that does not mean you can do anything you like. Sacrifice06 (talk) 20:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sacrifice06: I think you mistook me for someone else. The only change I've made on that page was correcting a spelling mistake here.
Cheers.
Amazingcaptain (talk) 10:25, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I undid your edit at George Floyd to link Killing of George Floyd in the hatnote. Per WP:RELATED, we don't link to pages that are not ambiguous with the current page tile. Information on his death is readily available in the text. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 06:57, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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