User talk:Atlaslion1912

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November 2020[edit]

Hello, I'm GiantSnowman. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Youssef En-Nesyri have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. Thanks. Giant Snowman 08:12, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey The edit of en nesyri is 100%, just likenthe edit of Zakaria Labyad. Matches with b teams aint pro matches but youtb matches, thats why they dont have to been showed with the other matches, maybe you can make an apart statsbox for the B matches, but pls not together with the A matches Atlaslion1912 (talk) 12:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

B team matches for countries where B teams play in the league system (such as Spain) are included in the infobox and career stats. That is the way we have done it for the 15 years I have been editing. Please do not remove them again. Giant Snowman 16:00, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But labyad played in the B teams of sporting and utrecht but those teams didnt play in de second league at that moment, the played in leagues for b teams. And you removed the whole stats that i updated, i spent a lot of time to edit that because i searched for the right stats and changed it, and you just deleted that, its disrespectful Atlaslion1912 (talk) 19:24, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You are edit warring against consensus and will likely be blocked soon if you do not calm down and stop editing. As I have explained, it has been long established that B teams in the same league system as the parent clubs are included. Please stop removing them. Giant Snowman 19:51, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also FYI - Sporting CP B played in the Portuguese league system since from 2012-13 to 2017–18 seasons (playing in the Liga Portugal 2 I believe) and Jong FC Utrecht play in the Eerste Divisie. So you are 100% wrong when you claim that they "played in leagues for b teams". Giant Snowman 19:53, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jong fc utrecht was not, sporting i dont know. The best solution is to make an “Jong teams” box in the stats tab, i think its the best solution. Atlaslion1912 (talk) 19:57, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jong FC Utrecht has played in the Dutch league system since the 2016–17 Eerste Divisie, so again you are wrong. Giant Snowman 19:58, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just read what i said, its a good solution Atlaslion1912 (talk) 20:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Btw i just updated his stats, they were old Atlaslion1912 (talk) 20:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not. They are classed as any other team playing in the Portuguese/Dutch league system. Giant Snowman 20:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Updating stats = absolutely fine. Giant Snowman 20:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I dont agree with those languages (Spanish and French) on the Moroccan national football team page, why is it like this? Spanish and French are not Moroccan languages, just Arabic and tamazight. If you use French and spanish you can use Chinese and Korean aswell... please remove it cause it totally doesnt make sense Atlaslion1912 (talk) 20:12, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you on Spanish, disagree on French - see French language in Morocco. Giant Snowman 22:00, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

French is een commercial language in Morocco and its not an official language, there also a lot of people who speaks Hassaniya, but is not an official language either. So i dont agree with you about the french Atlaslion1912 (talk) 04:14, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Hakim Ziyech, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Mattythewhite (talk) 23:01, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A source??? Are you serious?? You want a source that says Hakim Ziyech is a Moroccan?? You just joking right? Atlaslion1912 (talk) 23:54, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kays Ruiz-Atil nationality in the opening paragraph[edit]

@Atlaslion1912: @GiantSnowman: Hello. Atlaslion has been constantly bugging me saying that Kays Ruiz-Atil should be considered French-Moroccan in the opening paragraph, but I reason that he should be considered only French in the opening paragraph due to WP:ETHNICITY. We can't really use national team to help us in this scenario, as the player has not played for any national team. I argue that he has only resided in France, that he was born in France, and that he became notable in France, so he should be considered French only, but with Moroccan descent.
GiantSnowman, could you help clarify what is right, whether French or French-Moroccan is the correct way to say his nationality? Paul Vaurie (talk) 14:23, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

He should be described as 'French' - born in France, plays for France at youth level. Giant Snowman 15:18, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, he should be described as either French-Moroccan, French born Moroccan or French with Moroccan descent. Only French is not an option. Atlaslion1912 (talk) 16:35, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: Could you please explain to this inexperienced editor as to why "French" is the correct nationality to be in the opening paragraph? He won't listen to me. Thanks. Paul Vaurie (talk) 18:55, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MOSETHNICITY applies. Giant Snowman 19:15, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Atlaslion1912: Please read about this on the link GiantSnowman put and you will understand. Paul Vaurie (talk) 19:18, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can say what you want but he has TWO nationalities. Why only mention one of he has two, it doesnt make any sense. He played for the moroccan youth teams, for that you need the Moroccan nationality, thats a fact. What you are doing rn os make the french nationality superior and disrespect his moroccan nationality. At dozens of pages the players are mentioned with twi nationalities, so why this exception? Atlaslion1912 (talk) 19:50, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Atlaslion1912: Once again, it DOES NOT MATTER what you think is his nationality, he is French according to WP:ETHNICITY and that's that. Now please stop bothering us about this and do not go edit the page to change his nationality or it will be reverted. Paul Vaurie (talk) 14:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination of Imad Hadar for deletion[edit]

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