User talk:Bagumba/Archive 17
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Happy holidays!
What better way to celebrate the holidays (and bowl season) than "Touchdown Jesus"!
Best wishes for a happy and healthy 2018!
Cbl62 (talk) 18:13, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Semi protect request
Any chance of extended semi for Marcus Smart? DaHuzyBru (talk) 15:45, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
- Done, 1 week.—Bagumba (talk) 15:50, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
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Admin assistance needed
Could you move Mark Daigneault (basketball coach) to just Mark Daigneault? It seems the title without the DAB was protected from creation awhile back, so the creating editor worked around this by using an unnecessary DAB. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 16:34, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- No evidence that it's any more notable than since the last AfD, so I deleted it.—Bagumba (talk) 17:59, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- That’s fine too. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 18:43, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Semi protect request
Any chance of Tyler Johnson (basketball) being semi'd for a few days? There is persistent unsourced and dubious content being added to the personal life section. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 07:05, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Done.—Bagumba (talk) 07:16, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
When to use Template:distinguish?
I believe it was you who said in a discussion a few months ago that Template:for should be preferred over Template:distinguish. I don't remember your exact rationale but I remember I agreed with you. In addition to {for} being more helpful to the reader, I've also never been a fan of the imperative tone of {distinguish}; "not to be confused." And so I can't think of any scenario where {distinguish} would be more suitable than {for}. Lizard (talk) 05:02, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I had put it in the template's doc at some point:
This template is used in the cases where the distinction between the titles is so obvious that the reader needs no further explanation. For cases where an explanation is required, use {{For}} and {{About}}.
.—Bagumba (talk) 05:52, 18 January 2018 (UTC)- Right, so in the case of individuals {for} should always be preferred. I also think {distinguish} can potentially cause unneeded confusion sometimes, such as if it was used on Joe Greene to distinguish him from Joe Green (American football). Since 99.9% of readers will be looking for Greene, we shouldn't lead them astray by suggesting they're looking for a far less notable person. That's my take. Lizard (talk) 17:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- I first became aware of how silly it was with the Aaron Gray mention in the second paragraph here.—Bagumba (talk) 18:08, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- Heh, the 'pedia has come a long way since the Hornets became the Pelicans (which I still think sounds ridiculous, but at least they're not Baby Cakes). Lizard (talk) 18:14, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- I first became aware of how silly it was with the Aaron Gray mention in the second paragraph here.—Bagumba (talk) 18:08, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- Right, so in the case of individuals {for} should always be preferred. I also think {distinguish} can potentially cause unneeded confusion sometimes, such as if it was used on Joe Greene to distinguish him from Joe Green (American football). Since 99.9% of readers will be looking for Greene, we shouldn't lead them astray by suggesting they're looking for a far less notable person. That's my take. Lizard (talk) 17:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, I had put it in the template's doc at some point:
Rugby MOS at NCSP
The previous version was the applied MOS for both codes of rugby for disambiguation. I do not disagree with potential confusion that arises for dual code players, but it was felt long ago that (dual code rugby) or variation of, would be more confusing than having just (rugby). The current reverted NCSP is wrong as we have had editors moving pages against both codes of rugby MOS'. For the failings of both codes of rugby, and the lack of co-operation, this was apparently as close as they got to agreeing on anything.Fleets (talk) 11:10, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Protect Avery Bradley?
He’s mentioned in the Blake Griffin talk, will be a target all day long. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 23:47, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Also, may want to protect Brice Johnson, Willie Reed, Tobias Harris, and Boban Marjanovic Rikster2 (talk) 23:49, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Done, on a phone no less.—Bagumba (talk) 00:03, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Tomlinson vandal
Not sure if you've noticed, but the IP that keeps removing chunks of LaDainian Tomlinson is actually reverting the page all the way back to when the highlights in the infobox read San Diego instead of Los Angeles. I have no idea why they're doing it this roundabout way, but the pattern has been consistent for nearly a year. At least since this discussion. Just letting you know that's what's going on. Lizard (talk) 20:26, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- I'm WP:INVOLVED in that discussion, and I guess one could argue there was no clear consensus there. At any rate, I'd say at least inform editors of that discussion if you think it did provide clear direction. At any rate, an admin has blocked the IP range already.—Bagumba (talk) 00:13, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah there wasn't a clear consensus. So, thankfully I guess, he's making it easy by turning a potential content dispute matter into vandalism. And WP:AGF goes out the window with this. Lizard (talk) 18:07, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Protect Greg Monroe?
Lots of premature IP edits Rikster2 (talk) 00:51, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Dossier suffers from an identity problem
I don't think Dossier knows what it wants to be. It's apparently a dab page, but most of the entries violate WP:NOTDAB. The page gets quite a lot of traffic so people are coming to it looking for something; I'm guessing to learn what a dossier is. So I see three options: (1) convert it into a content article about dossiers, (2) soft redirect to Wiktionary, or (3) rename to "List of dossiers" and then create an actual dab page if needed. What says you? Lizard (talk) 23:27, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- You hit the key, which is that a dab is not meant to match partial title matches. #1 is most encyclopedic if you have content. Would still need to provide way for readers to get to specific dossiers (can use "see also" if only a few after paring partial matches). #3 would be better to redirect to List of dossiers, which could briefly define the term in opening sentence and also have link to Wiktionary. #2 is easiest, and has builtin link to search for partial titles. If u r not ready to be bold, perhaps ping the Dab project or the Wikipedia dab talk page.—Bagumba (talk) 01:19, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
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Basketball stats
That was kind of the point, to add "dead link" to uses where the name was still present, because those links don't work anymore, and to encourage people to replace them with the ID number instead. —howcheng {chat} 23:54, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Howcheng: As far as I could tell, active players (e.g. Lonzo Ball) were still working with supplying the name, and NBA.com would redirect to the URL with the number format. It's players that arent in the NBA anymore that are only available at stats.nba.com. Frankly, I doubt if the number format is sustainable, as websites are always changing their internal IDs without redirecting old URLs. Perhaps discuss this at WT:NBA. For historical players, maybe basketball-reference.com is sufficient?—Bagumba (talk) 00:06, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Hmmm. OK, I guess this requires more thought/experimentation. —howcheng {chat} 00:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Incidentally, Nash wasn't working because your change should have had "player" in the URL, not "players" e.g. http://stats.nba.com/player/959/ All the more reason to test this out at Template:Basketballstats/sandbox with Template:Basketballstats/testcases.—Bagumba (talk) 20:44, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Hmmm. OK, I guess this requires more thought/experimentation. —howcheng {chat} 00:42, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
If you get a chance ....
Mike James (basketball, born 1990) could use protection. Apparently there are rumors he is signing in Greece so folks are WAY jumping the gun. Thanks Rikster2 (talk) 21:24, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Done.—Bagumba (talk) 21:37, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Isaiah Thomas
I don’t know why you changed Isaiah Thomas back to the Cavs. The trade has already been accepted and reported Pennstater90 (talk) 18:01, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Pennstater90: Yes there is breaking news. However, please feel free to cite a source that is has been officially completed. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 18:04, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Latest Cavs trade
May want to lock the players in the George Hill trade between Utah and Cleveland as well. Rikster2 (talk) 18:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Crazy trade deadline.—Bagumba (talk) 18:49, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- You are getting a workout today. Funny that the Monroe deal hasn’t been announced yet. Rikster2 (talk) 18:50, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- They were supposedly waiting until after the trade deadline.[1]—Bagumba (talk) 18:57, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- You are getting a workout today. Funny that the Monroe deal hasn’t been announced yet. Rikster2 (talk) 18:50, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
New deal - Malachi Richardson for Bruno Cabolco Rikster2 (talk) 19:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- No edits on Bruno Caboclo yet. Honestly have never heard of these two. I'm going offline now. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 19:09, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
- Dang, need you for another 45 minutes lol. Doug McDermott for Emmanuel Mudiay for Devin Harris is getting a lot of traffic too. Rikster2 (talk) 19:17, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
A basketball for you!
A basketball for you! | |
You've done a lot of basketball-related cleanup lately. Nice work! Lepricavark (talk) 00:14, 11 February 2018 (UTC) |
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Unrelenting
May be a good idea to semi Talk:Super Bowl Most Valuable Player Award for a while, as the guy is back at his rambling with a new sock. Lizard (talk) 00:24, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Blocked.—Bagumba (talk) 00:42, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Noted
Thanks, I appreciate it. Edmon74 05:22, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
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IP block
Any chance of a timeout for this vandal IP? Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 09:54, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Blocked for a year. That IP range has been at it since 2016.—Bagumba (talk) 10:18, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
This IP doesn't deserve anymore talk page warnings. Their most recent edits are surely more than enough for a long-time block. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:52, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- The "107.77.165" could be a case for a range block per edits at Autumn Jackson. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:54, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- 1 week.—Bagumba (talk) 07:43, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
If you get around to it
2012–13 NCAA Division I men's basketball season could probably stand to be protected for a couple weeks. Lots of IP edits around the Louisville announcement today. Thanks Rikster2 (talk) 21:20, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- Looks light so far. One editor was vandalism adding UCF as champs, the other seem like a good faith syntax error (forgot "men's" to create a red link). I'll watchlist it for now.—Bagumba (talk) 01:32, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Linking retired numbers in infobox
Is there any particular reason baseball and football link retired numbers in the infobox as "Cincinnati Reds No. 14 retired"? Why is it piped that way? The way basketball does it makes so much more sense. Is it just the way it was always done? Lizard (talk) 22:01, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Rant: And if someone had slowly changed a few without changing them all, someone else would probably reverted back to the bad format for the sake of consistency.—Bagumba (talk) 01:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- Well, I'm guilty of that with changing # → No. on baseball bios that I venture to. The vast majority still use #. I think I've gotten all the football ones. Basketball was already using No. when I got here. Speaking of, this was Drew Brees' infobox on the date of my first Wikipedia edit. Gave Template:Syrian Civil War infobox a run for its money. Lizard (talk) 04:38, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- I think I changed a lot of the NBA ones, both the No. and the link style. And it's consistent with WP:NBASTYLE.—Bagumba (talk) 06:46, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- Well, I'm guilty of that with changing # → No. on baseball bios that I venture to. The vast majority still use #. I think I've gotten all the football ones. Basketball was already using No. when I got here. Speaking of, this was Drew Brees' infobox on the date of my first Wikipedia edit. Gave Template:Syrian Civil War infobox a run for its money. Lizard (talk) 04:38, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
Protect Sean Miller?
Breaking news he may have paid players. As usual, IPs aren’t waiting for confirmation. Maybe DeAndre Ayton too. Rikster2 (talk) 03:57, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
- Someone else got to it already.—Bagumba (talk) 07:03, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
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Another sockpuppet of User:Manster1?
User:Sportsman20 appears to be another sock of User:Manster1 - this edit summary seems eerily familiar. The account was created soon after you blocked another sock, User:Manster89. Tewapack (talk) 22:41, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
- I agree here. The wording on everything seems to match all 3 users. All 3 blanked their talk pages when you try to talk to them. All 3 are making edits exclusively on college basketball tournament pages which go against consensus. Bsuorangecrush (talk) 04:12, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
@Tewapack and Bsuorangecrush: Thanks. There's little doubt after their last rebuttal.—Bagumba (talk) 05:42, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Range block
Any chance of a range block for "240D:1A:FC:2B00" [2] [3]? They have been making mass WP:OVERLINK edits. DaHuzyBru (talk) 14:12, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- Actually MOS:REPEATLINK is more relevant, but even that guideline allows for repeats in infoboxes "if helpful", but the NBA project has long considered it not useful. I blocked for 1 week, but left note that they can ask for an unblock if they are willing to discuss it.—Bagumba (talk) 14:34, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Can you please not redirect EuroLeague champion to EuroLeague Finals?
The listing of the players that actually won the award should be proper. Because dozens of players could be on the team that time, but not actually win the championship. So if you don't want that linked, then you should not redirect it. So if you want it as EuroLeague champion, you should not redirect EuroLeague champion to EuroLeague Finals.Bluesangrel (talk) 02:56, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Bluesangrel: My main concern is MOS:SEAOFBLUE. Pick one link and link to it, and make EuroLeague champion and Euroleague champion point to the same page. I don't follow EuroLeague that closely, but I assume your point is that not every player of a team is part of the EuroLeague roster?—Bagumba (talk) 03:02, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
- OK my bad on putting the link together, I will just use EuroLeague from now on and not link champion. But yes, I think it should not redirect to EuroLeague Finals from EuroLeague champion. Because under the rules of leagues, some players can only register in their national league, or just in Europe, etc. And also some players are counted in rosters for the championships, even after they left the team, but don't actually get a championship. It's confusing, but not exactly does every player of the team that year get a championship, or is eligible for one. Example, being in the team, and not at the EuroLeague. If that makes sense.Bluesangrel (talk) 03:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Bluesangrel: The issue is probably that "EuroLeague champion" is ambiguous whether it's referring to the team that won or to the players that were on the championship roster. I do not have a strong opinion. For NBA, NBA champion currently redirects to List of NBA champions, which lists the winning teams. However, I guess it can be argued that "NBA champion" could be a disambiguation page that also lists List of NBA champions, List of NBA players with most championships and List of NBA championship head coaches. At any rate, I was more concerned with the MOS:SEAOFBLUE that I first saw in your D'Antoni edit. I'll leave it up to you and other EuroLeague editors if want to go back and just link EuroLeague, or want to link "Euroleague champion", either linking it to the Euroleague champion redirect or piping it to Rosters of the champion and finalist teams of EuroLeague e.g. [[Euroleague champion|Rosters of the champion and finalist teams of EuroLeague]]. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 08:34, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Protect Bob Marlin?
Many IP edits on this - some vandalizing over comments he made in the lead up to their NIT matchup with LSU and there is a general trend of resistence over the move of the University of Louisiana Lafayette from Louisiana–Lafayette to Louisiana. Those edits are happening on many pages that display the name, but the Marlin page is getting it the hardest. Thanks Rikster2 (talk) 14:49, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
- Another admin already protected it.—Bagumba (talk) 18:40, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
I apologise
Hello. Thank you for your message. I am very sorry about what happened. I just got very angry. James500 (talk) 10:46, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Possible BLP/POV categorization issue
Surely this is a POV concern, right? User has also added a few more questionable cats to other pages recently. Lizard (talk) 14:18, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- To be fair, like many categories, Category:Violence in sports does make clear what belongs in there. Still, the first step will be talking to the editor directly and discussing alternatives.—Bagumba (talk) 14:37, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- You mean does not make clear? Yeah I saw the category page is lacking, to say the least. My concern is every player that ever shoved someone and received a personal foul will end up in this cat. Lizard (talk) 14:49, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I forgot the not. I generally dont get categories and dont get involved in them too much, so I'm not much help there beyond the esoteric stuff. Sorry.—Bagumba (talk) 16:00, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- You mean does not make clear? Yeah I saw the category page is lacking, to say the least. My concern is every player that ever shoved someone and received a personal foul will end up in this cat. Lizard (talk) 14:49, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
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Roster vandal new IP
Here is an example. Thanks Rikster2 (talk) 14:14, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Blocked.—Bagumba (talk) 17:00, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Matisse Thybulle
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Boxing SNG
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"For the most recent..." hatnotes
How useful do you reckon hatnotes like the ones on World Series and Super Bowl are, directing users to the most recent occurrence. Seems to me like improper use of the hatnote. The links to the most recent ones are in the infoboxes anyway. I was gonna be bold and remove them but it looks like this practice is widespread, although inconsistent; it appears on Olympic Games (FA), Cricket World Cup (FA), Indianapolis 500, and Kentucky Derby but not on Fifa World Cup (FA), Masters Tournament (GA), or Rugby World Cup (FA). Lizard (talk) 03:11, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- You sort of have to know the infobox links are there to find them. It's not visually obvious; moreover, the infobox is further down the page on mobile view, even worse on a phone. I think hatnotes are better at directing people who want the current article, not the general topic.—Bagumba (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Protect Joakim Noah?
Lots of rumors about an end to his time with the Knicks, but they haven't announced they are waiving him (and may not do so), there are just quotes that he "won't return this year." IPs are jumping the gun, can we protect the article until things become clear? Thanks! Rikster2 (talk) 19:47, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
- So far it's the same user, so I blocked the 2602:306:8046:ED30:* IP range for 31 hr, as they have history of unsourced edits.—Bagumba (talk) 02:38, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Current sports transaction
Template:Current sports transaction has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Lojbanist remove cattle from stage 02:54, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Non-notable basketball leagues
Hey. What are grounds for deletion for non-notable basketball leagues? There is nothing at WP:NSPORTS with criteria for the notability for a league. National League Division 1 has recently been created – it's the second-tier Irish league, and is in no way notable (the first-tier Irish league is pushing it!). Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:57, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
- I would say WP:NORG. As a background, NSPORTS used to direct to NORG for teams, but Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(sports)#Notability_of_sports_teams happened. Well, there's no disclaimer about sports teams at NORG if you want to wikilawyer it. Otherwise, there is always plain ol GNG.—Bagumba (talk) 05:17, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Basketball in Ireland
Hi. If you are interested, this documentary is actually worth a watch. Guliolopez (talk) 11:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Tim Duncan GOAT
Hi, I saw that you edited to best to GOAT, and then that you changed it back to best, curious as to why? There are many noteworthy articles calling him the GOAT. I changed it back to greatest because there are so many things to support “greatist”, but few say “best”. I started a new thread on this for the talk page, as many other threads are old, Maybe we can get a consensus?
Thanks! MissTofATX (talk) 05:06, 13 April 2018 (UTC)MissTofATX MissTofATX (talk) 05:06, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
- Response on article talk page. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 05:19, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
On redirects
You probably missed the message regarding uppercase names where I corrected myself. I was proving my point the whole time. Even the article for NBA playoffs is in lowercase. –Piranha249 02:58, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Piranha249: I did see it (although it took me a while to understand the context of your comment here; consider referencing the original conversation in the future), but didn't have much to add one way or the other. WP:OTHERSTUFF aside, take a look at a related discussion for NFL Draft at Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2016_July#2016_NFL_Draft. Whether it should be capitalized or not is far from straightforward. If you still want to get a new consensus to rename, the most appropriate place would be at WP:RM, here page moves are discussed. You should do a group nomination of all relevant articles at Category:National Basketball Association playoffs. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 05:37, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
192.252.163.49
He is back. Rikster2 (talk) 15:14, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Blocked 1 wk.—Bagumba (talk) 15:37, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Ralph Sampson
Baguma, I’m new to Wiki. Ralph wants the photo changed and his birthday is 1961. Can you assist in how it’s done correctly. I’ve uploaded new photos. Lionfishgroup (talk) 08:17, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- For adding pictures, you can refer to Help:Pictures. As for his birthday, Wikipedia requires that all text is verifiable, which generally means a reliable source needs to be cited. You can refer to Help:Referencing for beginners. However, as most sources say he was born on July 7, 1960, this leads to an issue of inaccuracy between conflicting sources. Is there an official account (e.g. website, Facebook, etc.) of Ralph's that lists his correct birthday?—Bagumba (talk) 08:36, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:San Diego Padres retired numbers
Template:San Diego Padres retired numbers has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Primefac (talk) 15:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Hal Greer?
Heya. We did good work together on Moses Malone following his death. Today it's news of another Sixer, Hal Greer, with a disappointing article. I may not have time to work on it much more than I already have. Are you able to help improve the article? – Muboshgu (talk) 16:44, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: I wont be able to get to it today. Good luck.—Bagumba (talk) 23:03, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Help?
Hi. Can you please take a look at the last two declined/reverted edits by two editors here? A page you recently edited.
They make no sense (plus, both editors have the exact same "can't leave me talk page messages" construct in place, making communication difficult anyway). Thanks. --2604:2000:E016:A700:8569:A580:8389:C456 (talk) 07:35, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Can you explain what you mean byIn any event, another alternative is just posting to Talk:Josh Rosen. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 07:41, 20 April 2018 (UTC)"can't leave me talk page messages" construct in place
? That does not seem to be the case, as far as I can tell.
DYK for Matisse Thybulle
On 24 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Matisse Thybulle, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Washington Huskies basketball player Matisse Thybulle was the first in the school's history to be named Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Matisse Thybulle. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Matisse Thybulle), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Peyton Manning
I just want to be clear: If that section regarding sexual harassment allegations is allowed on his page, then I'm assuming the same can be done for Julian Edelman, right? I'm only inquiring, since that seemed to be a major point of contention a while back. Dsaun100 (talk) 06:57, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Dsaun100: I'm not up on the details about Edelman. In Manning's case, there has been a lot of continued coverage, even came back up again in the press leading up to his last Super Bowl. So WP:DUE weight is the main consideration, not that there is a blanket rule that all allegations are allowed or not allowed. Let me know if have further questions. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 07:02, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: Ok, thanks for clarifying. I just remember receiving flak for adding similar sections for Julian Edelman and Jim Brown, both of which were removed, despite national coverage in both cases. There was consensus, at the time, that content of that nature would not be added for any of the players. I guess that's changed now, especially since I noticed a similar section for Brown was created since then. Dsaun100 (talk) 07:09, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Dsaun100: Well, consensus can change, and it sometime depends on the cast of character at any given time. But Manning's keeps hitting the press every so often over 20 years, and I could swear there was something about him and his dad writing something detogatory about the woman in their book which she sued for violating their settlement (since removed), so if Manning's article gets sanitized than maybe Kobe Bryant's rape allegation is next.—Bagumba (talk) 07:27, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Bagumba: Ok, thanks for clarifying. I just remember receiving flak for adding similar sections for Julian Edelman and Jim Brown, both of which were removed, despite national coverage in both cases. There was consensus, at the time, that content of that nature would not be added for any of the players. I guess that's changed now, especially since I noticed a similar section for Brown was created since then. Dsaun100 (talk) 07:09, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
This article was deleted last year with the consensus being that he wasn't notable since he never played professionally. However, since then he signed with the Delaware Blue Coats. I think there is enough there to meet GNG. Could you undelete this? ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 00:54, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Editorofthewiki: You can request at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 11:52, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Joseph.Smitley14
Joseph.Smitley14 could use a timeout. He's made multiple speculative edits to semi-protected pages over the past few days, along with some obvious vandalism for good measure. Lizard (talk) 01:37, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- Sadly, they went a long time without anyone actually warning then to cite sources. I blocked 31h, assuming good faith.—Bagumba (talk) 02:06, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2018).
- None
- Chochopk • Coffee • Gryffindor • Jimp • Knowledge Seeker • Lankiveil • Peridon • Rjd0060
- The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is now indefinitely restricted to autoconfirmed users.
- A proposal is being discussed which would create a new "event coordinator" right that would allow users to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit.
- AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new
equals_to_any
function can be used when checking multiple namespaces. One major upcoming change is the ability to see which filters are the slowest. This information is currently only available to those with access to Logstash. - When blocking anonymous users, a cookie will be applied that reloads the block if the user changes their IP. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. This currently only occurs when hard-blocking accounts.
- The block notice shown on mobile will soon be more informative and point users to a help page on how to request an unblock, just as it currently does on desktop.
- There will soon be a calendar widget at Special:Block, making it easier to set expiries for a specific date and time.
- AbuseFilter has received numerous improvements, including an OOUI overhaul, syntax highlighting, ability to search existing filters, and a few new functions. In particular, the search feature can be used to ensure there aren't existing filters for what you need, and the new
- The Arbitration Committee is seeking additional clerks to help with the arbitration process.
- Lankiveil (Craig Franklin) passed away in mid-April. Lankiveil joined Wikipedia on 12 August 2004 and became an administrator on 31 August 2008. During his time with the Wikimedia community, Lankiveil served as an oversighter for the English Wikipedia and as president of Wikimedia Australia.
Check user
Hey Bagumba. Any chance you could check to see if these two IPs ([4] [5]) may be linked to this blocked user. I have had run-ins with this style of editing many times over the years, and you've been involved in a number of sockpuppet blocks in the past at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/2sc945/Archive. I'd say it is the same person based on this IP form i.e. "source: http: ..." edit summary format. Perhaps a range block for "2001:8003:862E:1200"? This person is a serial block evader. Thanks for the consideration. DaHuzyBru (talk) 08:30, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- Done. 1 month.—Bagumba (talk) 12:15, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
- Got another one here. Do you think it is becoming to personal between myself and this person? Do I still have grounds to be pursuing block evasion or am I becoming too protective of "my" content? I have always compromised with this person and in my most recent revert at State Basketball League, I didn't revert all the way back. Could semi protection be added to the page? The amount of IP blocks this person manages to avoid is off the charts. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:21, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- I blocked the IP and protected the page because of block evasion. Aside from the persistent formats against MOS, I have no opinion on their content ideas. You can start a talk page discussion somewhere if there is potential merit to them. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 12:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- I appreciate your 2 cents. I was almost going to post at the most recent IPs talk page, but decided against it as it is unlikely they will respond there with all the different IP addresses that they use – it would be a waste of my time. Perhaps I can start something at the State Basketball League talk page – but again, it would just be back and forth between me and them with no other input at what is a niche page. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 13:05, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Or try WT:BASKETBALL with notification at the article talk page. If there is WP:NOCONSENSUS, then keep status quo.—Bagumba (talk) 13:10, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- I appreciate your 2 cents. I was almost going to post at the most recent IPs talk page, but decided against it as it is unlikely they will respond there with all the different IP addresses that they use – it would be a waste of my time. Perhaps I can start something at the State Basketball League talk page – but again, it would just be back and forth between me and them with no other input at what is a niche page. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 13:05, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- I blocked the IP and protected the page because of block evasion. Aside from the persistent formats against MOS, I have no opinion on their content ideas. You can start a talk page discussion somewhere if there is potential merit to them. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 12:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Got another one here. Do you think it is becoming to personal between myself and this person? Do I still have grounds to be pursuing block evasion or am I becoming too protective of "my" content? I have always compromised with this person and in my most recent revert at State Basketball League, I didn't revert all the way back. Could semi protection be added to the page? The amount of IP blocks this person manages to avoid is off the charts. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:21, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Zeke Upshaw
Hello! Your submission of Zeke Upshaw at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Giants2008 (Talk) 02:39, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
DYK for Zeke Upshaw
On 20 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zeke Upshaw, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after playing sparingly for Illinois State, Zeke Upshaw used a graduate transfer exception to continue his college basketball career with Hofstra and lead the CAA in scoring? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zeke Upshaw. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Zeke Upshaw), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 01:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Semi request
Any chance Cairns Taipans could be semi'd for a few days? Someone is continually adding unsourced content despite my pleas and talk page posts. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:08, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- Protected for 3 days since you provided a source and they didnt. Once IP addresses start changing, it's best to just start a discussion on the article talk page, AGF they forgot/missed previous posts, etc. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 17:02, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Bagumba, do you think you can return to your review here? The nominator has made a response to your most recent comments. If you're no longer planning on pursuing the review, please let me know and I'll find a new reviewer. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:41, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- Updated. I wasn't pinged before and I missed have missed it in my watchlist.—Bagumba (talk) 04:22, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Sterling Brown
Can you keep an eye on this article. I have a feeling there will be a lot of vandalism and non-NPOV writing as he was the subject of a controversial interaction with police. People always try to make these cases political (just reverted the first IP case of this). Rikster2 (talk) 17:46, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- OK. Activity is light, but might need some short-term protection if unverifiable edits persist.—Bagumba (talk) 04:35, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2018).
- None
- Al Ameer son • AliveFreeHappy • Cenarium • Lupo • MichaelBillington
- Following a successful request for comment, administrators are now able to add and remove editors to the "event coordinator" group. Users in the event coordinator group have the ability to temporarily add the "confirmed" flag to new user accounts and to create many new user accounts without being hindered by a rate limit. Users will no longer need to be in the "account creator" group if they are in the event coordinator group.
- Following an AN discussion, all pages with content related to blockchain and cryptocurrencies, broadly construed, are now under indefinite general sanctions.
- IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in June. This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.
- The Wikimedia Foundation's Anti-Harassment Tools team will build granular types of blocks in 2018 (e.g. a block from uploading or editing specific pages, categories, or namespaces, as opposed to a full-site block). Feedback on the concept may be left at the talk page.
- There is now a checkbox on Special:ListUsers to let you see only users in temporary user groups.
- It is now easier for blocked mobile users to see why they were blocked.
- A recent technical issue with the Arbitration Committee's spam filter inadvertently caused all messages sent to the committee through Wikipedia (i.e. Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee) to be discarded. If you attempted to send an email to the Arbitration Committee via Wikipedia between May 16 and May 31, your message was not received and you are encouraged to resend it. Messages sent outside of these dates or directly to the Arbitration Committee email address were not affected by this issue.
- In early May, an unusually high level of failed login attempts was observed. The WMF has stated that this was an "external effort to gain unauthorized access to random accounts". Under Wikipedia policy, administrators are required to have strong passwords. To further reinforce security, administrators should also consider enabling two-factor authentication. A committed identity can be used to verify that you are the true account owner in the event that your account is compromised and/or you are unable to log in.
Kyrie Irving editor
The user at Kyrie Irving ignored your note and there are now grounds for WP:3RR. They are ignoring advice to head to the talk page and are now being disruptive. I can't find a suitable talk page warning – what's your take? DaHuzyBru (talk) 15:58, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- It appears you have warned this long-time user in the past [6], so they are clearly aware of edit warring and 3RR and are choosing to ignore. DaHuzyBru (talk) 16:02, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
- There is {{uw-ew}}. Do you use WP:TWINKLE? It makes them easier to find. WP:AN3 would be next if they continue.—Bagumba (talk) 19:45, 12 June 2018 (UTC)