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The life of a lesbian nun[edit]

I tend to write about benedetta carlini and how her life, gender, and sexuality showed a significant change in the way people viewed her before and after the idea of her taking form of both male and female. I would like to show that the idea if benedetta was "lesbian" this sexual preference of her's was the reason for all the stories and myths that are written about her. My main source will be Judith Brown book that forcus around her early life to their death. I would like to explode the idea of how in many beliefs she was lesbian but there are other sources that deny the fact she was lesbian. This idea of being a differenert sexuality that was deemed in her time insterest me and it raise a spark of different questions. Some of the things i would like to add to the wiki page are paintings of her and the nun that was rumored she was having relationship with. Another issue i find interesting is how high she got in her convent. She took the form of both man and female which probably played a huge role in her achievement. It reminded me of the same idea of Elizabeth and Catalina de erauso. They took different roles to show or become something in the world they were living in. It is said that benedetta took the form of Jesus which was probably not true but when other people in the convergation said they saw her as Jesus she probably took this as her advantage to move on and hide her identity Benedetta was also a person who had many different stories around her and I would like to explore how much of this was her own idea and which ones were probably made up to make her look bad. Some of the sources i want to use are immodest act by Judith Brown

Lesbian Sexuality in Renaissance Italy: The Case of Sister Benedetta  

Commentary: Queer Comes the Bride. Mark Lipton Renaissance Sexuality and the Florentine Archives: An Exchange Rudolph m bell From Possession to Compulsion: Religion, Sex, and Madness in Popular Culture peter gardella


There are accounts that she would take different forms of both man and female. She was considered to be supreme and was elected to be an abbess but yet after her death she is not seen as someone to look up too. Just like mother Teresa. She was someone of good nature, she had visions and people know of her. It is interesting to see how her sexually was probably her down fall. CandanceWillis (talk) 20:27, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~ Candace,

A good start so far. Your sources are all scholarly, peer-reviewed sources. I suggest that you now start reading them (Judith Brown first, then the others). See what comes up in your reading. Pay attention to how these sources deal with similar issues related to gender. Do they deal with similar issues? Do you they address them differently, or come to different conclusions? Note this. If you can't find common ground, to Judith Brown's bibliography and see what sources she used in her research. You might want to read some of these. Or, you can look up some book reviews of Judith Brown's book and see what those scholars have to say, then go to those scholars' books/articles and read those. It's time for you to start doing research and reading whatever you can to be able to submit a Prospectus by March 21. You will need to submit one, clear Research Question that has more than one plausible answer found in your research. Remember, that in your research paper you're addressing the role of gender in Benedetta's life. Come up with a more specific question that relates to Benedetta and what scholars have to say about her. For help, see the Research Question Worksheet that I will post to our course Blackboard site. For your Wikipedia article, you can add anything to Benedetta's page that you feel will make a good contribution to what's already there.

Teacheurohist (talk) 23:28, 3 March 2017 (UTC)Professor Keller-Lapp[reply]

Teacheurohist (talk) 23:28, 3 March 2017 (UTC)Professor Keller-Lapp[reply]


I have found a few review one by Lillian federman that explain certain things that she felt that Judith brown did not do well when it came to explaing Benedetta. I want to explain what is little know about her life before she went to the congress. She was seen at first to be something of a miracle. I want to revolve around the question that her gender role was her "downfall." From what I have read so far she was said to have powers that she express came from god and Jesus themself. She was said to take the form of Jesus and would look like a man at times. Judith brown also brought up how Benedetta took the gender role of a male since she was recorded saying that Jesus gave his heart to her so she became a part of him. I want to argue that Benedetta was seen as someone who was seen as a mystic and was praise for her close connection with Jesus but when she was consider to be partaking in relationships with some or (1) of the nuns. She reminded me of the lieutenant nun. She changed her cloths and took the role of a man while benedetta told them that she could take the form of a man. CandanceWillis (talk) 00:34, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Benedetta Carlini[edit]

Her life.

Benedetta Carlini became the Abbess of her convent and was also considered to be "Mother of God" Roughly between 1619-1623 according to Judith Brown. Carlini was living with her family in a mountain town near Pescia. Her parents were said that they made a vow when Carlini was born. They wanted her to be part of the convent and took her there when she was nine years old. Not much is know about Benedetta and her family life but she came from a well off family and she was educated. It was also found that she was close with her father. Being a woman during this time becoming part of the convent was not an unusual thing but Benedetta was well educated before joining. Benedetta education helped her when it came to her process becoming the abbess at the age of 30. This knowledge could have been the reason she was able to convince many that she was more than human. She considered herself to be divine and said that God and other angels would speak to her. Work cited Juith Brown Lesbian sexuality in renaissance Italy: The case of sister benedetta carlini CandanceWillis (talk) 01:43, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]