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Draft:Sree Parabat

I significantly improved and added several references on "Sree Parabat". Are there additional recommendations for this page to be published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gosamb1 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Gosamb1 Greetings to you. First of all, kindly re-read the "move to draft" message on your talk page again and click on the blue texts to understand further what constitution independent reliable sources which are needed to support the claim of the content for verification. Homepage, IMBD, facebook, any user generated sites, sources that associated/affiliated with the subject, press releases, marketing pieces and etc are considered not independent and / or not reliable and can NOT be used to demostrate the notability of the subject. Kindly remove such sources from the article and remove the double brackets of the red-ink text. Kindly provide inline citations (sources) for the two "unsourced" sections (early life & education and career). You dont need to put all the subject's work on the article but list those are important and kindly provide ISBN so they would be varified. Also pls see the WP:AUTHOR notability requirements. Pls rework accordingly. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:57, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. I will work on the suggestions. Gosamb1 (talk) 06:11, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi Gosamb1 Kindly re-read the above message again as I found some mistakes (pay attention to the bold text sentences). Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:38, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Noted. Will do. Gosamb1 (talk) 07:01, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
As you suggested, 1) removed the IMDB references, 2) removed the double brackets of the red-ink text, 3) added ISBN information for several books, 4) removed most individual website references of noted actors, actresses and movie director.Gosamb1 (talk) 21:22, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi Gosamb1 Good day and thank you for the above changes. I believe the subject is notable, but the content of the article need to be supported by independent. reliable sources (at least 3). Sources such as from published mainstream major newspapers, journals would be considered independent reliable sources. Also the sources need to talk about the subject (Sree Parabat) in length and in depth and not merely passing mentioned. At the present, a big chunk of the section are not sourced so kindly pls provide. Do note source CAN be in any languages. If he is that famous, I believe you would find many newspapers/journals/reviews talk about him. When sources are provided, do pop by here again and let me know. Thank you and happy new year to you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:48, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. So, the current references contain 1) an obituary of Sree Parabat in the most widely circulated newspaper in Bengali language (Ananda Bazar Patrika) and includes a photo 2) an article on the writings of Sree Parabat. As another independent source, I will add a link to "Who's Who of Indian Writers" (https://books.google.com/books?id=QA1V7sICaIwC&pg=PA411&lpg=PA411&dq=sri+parabat,+whos+who&source=bl&ots=i0p994ZQDg&sig=Zw_w6nWY34ChzOd8yYLpeeevuUE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQyITd78_fAhVR-lQKHeIoBh4Q6AEwCHoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=sri%20parabat%2C%20whos%20who&f=false) which also confirms his birthplace. Would that be adequate? By the way Sree Parabat is referred to here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ami_Sirajer_Begum. Please advice. Gosamb1 (talk) 19:56, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


Hi Gosamb1,Thank you for continuing working on the article. The source your provide [1] is unintelligible. The "Who's Who" does provide only partial merit and not full. Please note the contain claimed need to support by significant coverage (at least 3) indepent, reliable sources where by the sources talk about the the subject in length and in dept and not merely passing mentioned. Info on the "Early years" and "Education and career" has no sources at all, and the question is how do we verify such info without sources? Secondly, the subject need to pass the notability requirement of WP:NAUTHOR, and from the contain at the moment it doest not demonstrate it has passed the requirement. Lastly, Pls only included important works of his and not the whole list. You might want to read WP:Your First Article to familiar yourself on what is needed, and if anything else you might have question of, pls read Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:30, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for continuing to advice me. You are correct, the font in the obituary seems to have been deprecated and does not show up properly (in Bengali font) anymore, though the author's photo is still there. I will see if there is any other official record of that obituary. I am not sure how I can determine the relative importance of the novels, and is it not proper to include a correct and exhaustive list anyway? One other question, one novel of the author, which has been converted to a TV serial, as mentioned in the wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ami_Sirajer_Begum) that is being currently telecast every weekday; does not that merit being an independent source? Gosamb1 (talk) 07:07, 3 January 2019 (UTC)


Hi Gosamb1, The source needs to talk about the subject (ASree Parabat) and not the TV series to be considered accepted to demonstrate the notability of the subject. If the subject is well-known, he would be talk about by the well- reputable mainstream press or academic journals about him and his work, and that is what we are after. If you cant find such sources, which means we cant verify the content and the article can not be acceptable. The draft article will remain in Wikipedia system for the next six months before it is deleted, so take the time to find the sources. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:32, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. I understand. I will see what I can find. Gosamb1 (talk) 17:32, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi Gosamb1, I will paste some of the above comment on the draft page, so you dont need to come back to search for this message in the future as it would be achieved. Cheers.09:26, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Gennaro Brooks-Church

Hello Cassiopeia! I appreciate your assistance with the article for Gennaro Brooks-Church. I would like your guidance however about a recent edit made by Greyfell...He was very personal in calling our edits 'crap' and threatened me with a block due to 'disruptive edits' - of which I have no idea what he is referring to.

I have been working very hard wholeheartedly to abide by the policies and guidelines on WP but this has thrown be for a loop and I would rather not antagonize him any further as his comments seem to be more pointed at me rather that the article or subject. Is this something you can assist me with? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jay Bestille (talk • contribs) 04:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)


Hi Jay Bestille Greetings to you and thank you for the questions. The edits made by in involved party, who is also a reviewer, got some points and rightfully so.
  1. Promotional: They (in Wikipedia we use neutral gender unless the we know for sure the gender of the editor) were aim to reduce puffery and promotional tone/context of the article as Wikipedia content should be written in a neutral point of view (NPOV) - see WP:PUFF and WP:PROMO for more details. Secondly, information in the content needs to support by reliable source, example, if source doesnt not state his DoB, then it should not be there.
  2. WP:COI & Blocked/Banned: You are a WP:PAID editor, which have a conflict of interest (COI with the associate page, and Wikipedia do not encourage editor with COI to edit on the associated pages for the very reason, COI, especially a paid editor, as at times, the paid editor would fail NPOV requirements and add a word or two or some subtle phrases to promote/market the subject (Gennaro Brooks-Church). A promotion page could be nominated to be deleted in Wikipedia. A promotional editor could be blocked from editing if repeatedly /or not adhere to warning(s) and they will might subject to be banned from Wikipedia and/or account creation. - see Page creation, illegitimate
  3. WP:NPOV & WP:RS+ WP:IS When I reviewed the page, the article is in the borderline of passing notability, for such the page could be challenged of fail notability guidelines, and might be nominated for deletion in the future. For such, I do suggest you to provide more WP:independent, reliable sources to strengthen the article with such sources from major newspaper. Also, make sure all the pages your have created is written in neutral point of view (plain and fact-based) and all content is supported by reliable sources and do not add (even a word) extra which is not support by source or the word would is a promotional word.
Thank you and happy new year. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:55, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

User needed level 4 warning

I believe you meant to do a level 4 warning here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:2600:1017:B81E:79A3:DDEB:E898:D6E5:9AF6 Perryprog (talk) 20:11, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Never mind, they were blocked anyway. Perryprog (talk) 20:12, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Perryprog Hi, I meant for level 4 ; guess 2 vandal fighters clicked at the same time and appear in same warning level. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 20:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Most likely. Sorry about that! Perryprog (talk) 20:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Perryprog Hi No problem. cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 20:20, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

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Hi CASSIOPEIA, A barnstar for you for your tireless contributions. Happy New Year, Cheers! Ppt1973 (talk) 12:46, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi Ppt1973 To get this banstar from you means a lot to me, I must have done many little things right. Got to say, it is always a pleasure collaboration with you in content contribution in Wikipedia. Thank you.
By the way, I have left a message on your talk page and ask for your input/advice, kindly have a look and let me know what you think. Thank you and Have a wonderful new year!. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:54, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Neolinguistics

I saw you moved this to drafts. I have been around since 2005, but not terribly active on Wikipedia, I take care of the vegetables in my little garden. I have never heard of 'drafts' before, and have over the years (dozens of times) started articles with the little I knew hoping that the crowd sourcing magic would then take over, which often it does. Here is one example--

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischa_Spoliansky

I assume this new 'draft' thing, means that no one will see the draft so the hive mind functionality will not take over. Instead, I am expected to only create new articles that are already above the stub level? I am only asking to understand the new way of doing things. I don't have much time to devote to wikipedia, and potentially in this new world I should just stop bothering. Thanks Tibetologist (talk) 22:43, 4 January 2019 (UTC)


Hi Tibetologist Greeting to you and thank you for the question above. First of all, let me thank you for your contribution and it is pleasant to know you are one of editors have been around for more than ten years in Wikipedia.
  1. Article in main space requirments:I dont not know when the "draft" thing started but all articles created need to pass (i) notability guidelines (2) contain claimed in the article need to supported (i) [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage (at least 3) (ii) independent, (iii) reliable sources (such as from major newspapers, books, reputable journals, scholarly reviews and etc) for (iv) verification which (v) the sources talk about the subject in length and in dept and not merely passing mentioned.
  2. Moved to draft space:I moved your page to draft page as NPP (new page - which is where you have created the page) has yet to shown the requirements needed like no sources provided, the article could be draftified by reviewer - see WP:NPPDRAFT and WP:DRAFTIFY. . A page does not support by sources means not meeting the Wikipedia requirements where The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.
  3. Stub class - Article CAN be created in stub class level or any class level as long as point 1 (i-v) are met.
  4. Mischa Spoliansky, the topic/subject you have created is notable but the content has not been supported by sources in most part. The point is, if I going to change some of the content or add some info into the article, such as change his background or works, without providing inline citations (sources), how would any readers able to verify such info? They cant.
  5. Verification:In Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and verifiability means that other people reading the articles in Wikipedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source which ia stated in Wikipedia pillar # 2- "All articles must strive for verifiable accuracy, citing reliable, authoritative sources". All you have to do is to provide 3 independent, reliable sources with inline citations on the body text -see instructions on inline citation, and click the submit button on the grey box of the draft page. Here I find some sources might suitable to use - source 1, source 2, Here - stroll down the page and there are a lot of sources indicated which you might able to use.
  6. Also, pls see below, and hope they could help.
  1. Neolinguistics - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
  2. Neogrammarians - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
  3. Matteo Bartoli - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Thank you and happy new year. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:22, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Not a disruptive edit

It has been decided for a while and the conclusion to the argument was that Assianism is the same thing as Uatsdin. The latter's article even notes it as an alternative name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.194.243.137 (talk) 23:07, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi 85.194.243.137 Greetings to you and thank you for informing the above. I had a closer look on both the articles and thus understand your action. I have removed the warning message from your talk page and extend my apologies to you here. There is a "merge" proposal which was raised in Oct. 2018 but it seems no editors joining the discussion on the article talk page. What you could do is to raise a redirect discussion which would get more attention there and resolution - pls go to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. Thank you and have a happy new year. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:57, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

South Pasadena Tournament of Roses Association

Hello! I am trying to get my new page approved. I was originally denied, though I think it was because it was unfinished. I have since added quite a bit more information, links, sources, etc. I am hoping that this page will be approved now. Can you please review and let me know if the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:South_Pasadena_Tournament_of_Roses_Association page is approved?

Thank you! --Schmied15 (talk) 09:51, 5 January 2019 (UTC)


Hi Schmied15 I have reviewed it and declined. I had answered you questions on AfC help desk prior the review- see here 17:45:40, 4 January 2019 review of submission by Schmied15#17:45:40, 4 January 2019 review of submission by Schmied15. Pls re-read them including all the links for a few times, and provide secondary reliable sources before resubmit. Remove all external links on the body text. Remove all external links except leave one. the List need inline citations. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 19:43, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

2019 in South Africa

Good day I want to start a page, "2019 in South Africa". It appears that there has been a page by that title, but that it was moved to "Draft:2019 in South Africa". Can I make edits on the page there? Freddie2016 (talk) 13:18, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Freddie2016, Good day. You can edit or add content on the page; however, pls provide inline citation with independent, reliable sources to support the content claimed. For inline citation info and instruction, pls see referencing for beginners.thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:57, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

BIO feedback for Draft:Dagmar Evelyn Cyrulla

Thankyou Cassiopeia for your detailed feedback. I presume this is where I respond once I have completed those changes but please let me know if I am not using this 'talk' section appropriately. I am working on the changes now Bethcarey (talk) 08:23, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Bethcarey Hi, Good day. I saw you have removed some of the contain. Kindly do so the same for Public Collections, SOLO EXHIBITIONS, GROUP EXHIBITIONS and Prizes and Competitions and just keep those are important/significant as for the present it looks like a resume instead like an article. Also pls provide sources especially the competitions she has won. Once you have done that, then click submit and pop back here let me know so I could review it. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:38, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
will do - I might have to finish it Monday but when done, I'll 'submit' and let you know. Thanks again.Bethcarey (talk) 09:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
another question, when I provide the sources for the competitions, is it best to cite/reference OR link to the article Bethcarey (talk) 09:53, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Bethcarey Provide inline citations.Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:58, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
thankyou Cassiopeia. I got help from Cyrulla Consultants with the edits and deletions. We have referenced the same source multiple times in the 'body' and then in the Exhibitions/Prizes & Comps - is that correct? Appreciate your help.Bethcarey (talk) 02:26, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Bethcarey  On hold Hi, When you said "we" and "help from Cyrulla Consultants", may I know are you anywhere affiliated or associated (as friend/colleague/family membert/etc} with Cyrulla? And are you paid to doing this article? If so, then you have a conflict of interest here. Do note Wikipedia do discourage editor with COI to edit/create the associated page for the very reason that the editor might not/at times fails to write the article in neutral point of view. You need to disclose your COI see - WP:COI and if you are a paid editor {marketing agent/consultant/a journalist or reviewer who paid to write this article and etc), then you need to disclose that as well - pls see WP:PAID in the (1) article talk page and (2) on your user page. When you have done that, do pop back here and let me know so I could proceed to look at what you have done and answer your questions above. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:37, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
hi Cassiopeia - I have bought Cyrullas work, follow her exhibitions and am a friend. I asked for their help for fact checking of the detail to do the edits required, ie. of the most important exhibitions & prizes but I am not being paid for this in any way. Is that ok? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bethcarey (talk • contribs) 08:41, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bethcarey, Wikipedia discourage COI editor to edit/create affected page; since you have create the page, you need to make sure all contain need to adhere strictly to neutral point of view, without a puffery word or any hint of promotion phrase to enhance the subject values/achievements to the readers. (pls make sure you read WP:PUFF and WP:PROMO. Secondly you need to follow the instructions to disclose your COI on (1) your user page and (2) article talk page - see here WP:DISCLOSE. Also, you could in the future to request edit on the page by inserting WP:edit request in the article talk page and if possible provide source. Once you have done that, then let me know and I will review the page. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:05, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Cassiopeia - I have completed your COI instructions, read the links regarding promo, puff and NPOV and reviewed the article again for objectivity. Please advise if it is ok, thankyou.Bethcarey (talk) 10:31, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Bethcarey Hi, I removed some content which were either no supported by sources, puffery/promo. I also added background section (use no independent source - this is ok as it does not claim her work achievements. The subject is in the borderlines of passing artist notability requirements for such it might be nominate for delete in the future if any editor find if fails the guidelines. Please add in further "major" achievements in the future to strengthen her notability. Pls click submit and when you have done so, let me know I get it approve. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:45, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi Cassiopeia - I just 're-submitted' and pressed 'publish changes' as per your comments above, thankyou.Bethcarey (talk) 21:35, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Cassiopeia - I'll read the information on the grading and how to improve it. Thankyou for your quick turnarounds and detailed feedback. It's a big learning curve but your guidance was clear.Bethcarey (talk) 02:23, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Bethcarey Hi, Welcome. If you have learn something and would able to edit constructively and contribute to Wikipedia then my time is well-spent. Cheers and happy editing. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:42, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Re: List of bills in the 116th United States Congress moved to draftspace

I'm not sure why the bills page has been moved to a drafts section and yet this page, List of acts of the 116th United States Congress, which has nothing, is live. I'm not sure if you didn't see it, so next time please look into more pages that have little to no actual content. Also the 116th Congress JUST STARTED, of course there wouldn't be more stuff added to it at this time. Tl97 (talk) 15:27, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


Tl97 Hi, Greetings to you. I have requested the page you mentioned above to be histmerged as I cant moved it to draft page since there is a draft page (yours) in the system (cant have 2 draft pages with the same name in the system). Your page was created without source and it is not about whether the 116th Congress has just started. For example, 2022 FIFA World Cup is a few years away, but press have already reported/talk about the event and its development and the content added was supported by sources. The point for a page to be in Wikipedia mainspace is (1) the subject needs to be notable; (2) the content is supported by [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage (at least 3) independent, reliable sources where (4) by the source talk about the subject in length and in depth. Sources from major newspaper would be sufficed. (5) The content written need to in neutral point of view and no copyright infringement. Also pls see Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything for further explanation. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:36, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Lists of cross-dressers

This is clearly not a article. It's a disambiguation page.★Trekker (talk) 09:34, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm very unsure of what should be sourced exactly. It's just a page to easily find lists of different types of cross-dressers.★Trekker (talk) 09:37, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
*Treker Greetings to you. Stand alone list page create the same way as an article. What needed are independent, reliable sources (at least 3). For list group source is acceptable. Example if Mr xxx is one of the cross dressers in your list, then just provide a inline citation (independent reliable source) that prove Mr xxx is indeed a cross dresses. Thank you. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:54, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
But it's not a stand alone list, it's a list of lists, with just links to navigate from. There are no people listed only links to list which have the people.★Trekker (talk) 09:57, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
*Treker, Well what you could do is to change the page name to "Cross dresser (disambiguation)" - then include some famous cross dressers in there and the "list of of cross dressers" could stay under section "See also". If you need me to change the name for you, pls let me know. cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:05, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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18:29, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Duplicate article creation

Hallo, you moved Draft:Docking theory of olfaction to mainspace despite the original creating edit summary of Help is kindly requested to redirect the current Wikipedia page "Shape theory of olfaction" to a renamed page "Docking theory of olfaction. Two recent reviews (references 1 and 2) as well multiple colleagues agree that the new title is more accurate. While I am an experienced Wikipedia editor I do not know how to replace the earlier page with a new one. Once the replacement has been made appropriate changes will then be made throughout the article for consistency with the new title.

The existing article Shape theory of olfaction has been around since 2005 and is much more substantial. I considered CSD A10 but have now proposed a merge.

Please check more carefully when moving articles to mainspace: the creating editor here plainly didn;t understand how to move the existing article, or how to request a move, but that's what should have been done instead of creating a duplicate article in mainspace. Thanks. PamD 09:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

PamD Greetings to you. Creator indicated at AFCHD to redirect Shape theory of olfaction to redirect to Docking theory of olfaction and merge the info. - see - HERE. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:49, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
But the creator apparently didn't know that the way to retitle an existing article is just to move it to the new title. We now have her article in mainspace as a duplicate article, which is a mess. It would have been kinder to her and better for the encyclopedia to move the existing article to the new title for her, if she can't do it herself (or tell her how to do it), and then suggest that she edit that article. We don't want to lose 13 years of work by other editors. There is no need for her draft to have been moved to mainspace, and doing so has removed the possibility of a simple move to that new title. PamD 10:11, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
PamD I see your points and that would indeed much easy and better way to do this. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:17, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Could you perhaps reverse your move to mainspace, and ask the editor to work on the existing article, adding content supporting the new term and then proposing a move? PamD 10:20, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
PamD You meant to suggest I move (1) Docking theory of olfaction back to draft (2) get the editor to add/edit the content in existing page Shape theory of olfaction. (3) Once that has been done, we change the page name from "Docking theory of olfaction" to "Shape theory of olfaction" and (4) get the editor to request deletion of Draft:Docking theory of olfaction db-G7 ? Pls confirm and thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:25, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I think that's probably what would work best. Thanks. It can be a struggle to get ones head round all the complexities, but I think the creating editor started off by causing confusion talking about "redirecting" when she meant "moving" (well, in ordinary language "renaming"!), and it went on from there! PamD 10:34, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
PamD OK, will do that and send message to the creator. Will inform you when all is done. Cheers and thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:38, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
PamD After a round about way, all is done (I saw you renamed the page). One suggestion Pam, since "Shape theory of olfaction" was recreated in 2005, and it was the name of this topic back then, it might be a good idea to create a page name "Shape theory of olfaction" and redirect to Docking theory of olfaction, so if readers look for "Shape theory of olfaction", they could find the destination page. Your thought? CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:36, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Renaming "Shape theory of olfaction" as "Docking theory of olfaction"

I have followed your suggestions and appropriately revised "Shape theory of olfaction". It is now ready to be renamed "Docking theory of olfaction". However my temporary page "Docking theory of olfaction" has already been deleted so I could not do what you suggested. Can you assist by renaming "Shape theory of olfaction" "Docking theory of olfaction", or is there something else I need to do first? Thanks so much for your useful suggestions. Dolly442 (talk) 20:39, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Dolly442 Hi, Thank you very much for merging the content and "Shape theory of olfaction" has been rename to Docking theory of olfaction. Your draft page has een deleted - see here [6]. All is in place now. Thank you for your contribution and cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:29, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Nikola Aćin

Please, you should rather use tags with warning, instead of moving wholly functional article to drafts. Mere few hours after creating, you have moved my article "Nikola Aćin" (my translation of ten years old article from French Wikipedia) to draftspace, commenting "It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources" and "Pls see referencing for beginners for info and instructions.". Please, keep in mind that such move is against rules and culture of Wikipedia. Verifiability is not matter of inline references (which I intended to put anyway as I always do)! You already have detailed author's bibliography and discography (including major French publishers like Casterman), dozens of easily verifiable public facts, as well as authority control which confirms almost all main data from the article: Virtual International Authority File, ISNI, Catalogue général du Bibliothèque nationale de France, IdRef (Identifiants et Référentiels pour l'Enseignement supérieur et la Recherche) etc! In that case it is already referenced from the highest authority, and you cannot remove quite completed article from the main space as a "draft". According the rules and our customs you may only tag it with a warning. Sincerely, --Stripar (talk) 18:11, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Stripar Greetings to you. Any article without providing sources could be moved to draft page and article need min inline citations for verification . Content added/created/changed need to be supported by source(s). Content that is not supported by source could be deleted form the page. For a page to be notable in English Wikipeia, first the topic/subject needs to pass the notability guidelines, and secondly the content needs to be supported by significant coverage (at least 3) independent, reliable sources such as professional published mainstream academic or journalists sources, where by the sources talk about the subject in detail and and in length but independent of the subject. Discography, listing, interview, press releases, IMBD, home page, user generate sites, source affiliate/associated/ are considered NOT independent and or reliable.
Do note, sister Wikipedia sites (different Wikipedia languages) operate independently from English (EN) Wikipedia and for such, each site has their own guidelines and policies. If France (FR) Wikipedia accepts a page into their main space, it does NOT mean it is acceptable in EN Wikipedia. Pls see - Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything for further info. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:03, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello. I can mostly easily agree with you, but you should notice my main points which apply for EN WIkipedia too. 1) Procedure — Tagging with warning is the usual procedure in such cases, rather than moving the whole page. 2) Referencing — Authority control(s) are the highest level of sources with references, reliabilty and verifiability. Inline references serve for particular but dubious data only, ie. not covered by authority control. Sincerely. --Stripar (talk) 11:13, 8 January 2019 (UTC)--Stripar (talk) 11:13, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Stripar Good day. Authority control does give some indications if the subject is notable or not but unsourced content is another matter. I apologies that I forgot to tell you that I am one of the New Page and Article for Creation (AfC) reviewers where articles created via New Page or via AfC (draft) will go through the review. When the article is accepted by the reviewer then it will be place in Wikipedia main space and then search engine will index it. For a reviewer, we usually dont tag "no source is provided" but we will move the unsourced article from new page to draft space as we could not verify unsourced content and without inline citation, it would be a Hercules task (if the source is a book) to read all the pages to determine the content claimed indeed support by source. Do note all content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution - pls see burden / WP:PROVEIT. It also means that means the article does not meet the requirements to be accepted in the mainspace until such issue is addressed. After all, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 13:23, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
I did as you reqested and I have added inline references (as I always do), but being long enough here I felt this particular action (moving to draft) as truly different to Wikipedia spirit and even editorial policies. "This tool /Move to Draft/ is to be used with discretion, it is not a catchall for not knowing what to do with a new page." in Wikipedia:New pages patrol. Or is it some new rule which applies to all new pages? In that case, my apologies for being persistive. --Stripar (talk) 14:26, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Stripar Wikipedia does not have firm rules but policies and guidelines - see WP:5P5. Whether a reviewer would move the unsourced page to draft would be under the reviewer discretion of what they see fit. The main core guidelines for article to be in the mainspace is the subject is notable, content is supported by independent, reliable source and verifiable. Reviewers could move unsourced article to draft for the author to work on the article of what is needed as it is the guidelines. Some reviewers have the move page right and some dont. Cheers and thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:30, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alabama–Clemson football rivalry

You closed this early but with no indication of an early close criterion. Could you specify which early close criterion is met please or reopen it until the full 7 days has run? Thanks. --Michig (talk) 11:32, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

HiMichig Good day. ya, I reside on the other side of the time zone and it is almost 7 days up for me here :), apologies. I checked on some of the refs provided and deemed it made the GNG criteria. If you think it should still be open for discussion, then let me know. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi. Whatever time zone you're in, the close is still 8 hours early. It needs to run for a 7 full days from the time it was opened. Thanks. --Michig (talk) 11:53, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
HiMichig Reopened the discussion. Thanks for informing. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

UFC Fight Night on ESPN+ 7 - Volkan vs Overeem

Hey Ppt1973, good day. the source you provide of the above bout here [7] stating it is a rumous and not an official announce. Volkan has been booked for UFC Fight Night on ESPN+ 5 against Dominick Reyes on March 16, 2019 in London - [8]. UFC Fight Night on ESPN+ 7 is on April 20, 2019. It is unusual for a fighter to be booked 2 bouts at the same time, in advance, especially only one month as fighters might sustain long medical suspension and could not fight the next scheduled bout.

By the way, I have created all the redirects, if you want to link to UFC Fight Night xxx, it would work now. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:47, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Hi. The Saint Petersburg event is targeting a matchup between Alexander Volkov (not Volkan Oezdemir) and Overeem for the headliner. Cheers! Ppt1973 (talk) 15:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


Hi Ppt1073, I am so so sorry. Volkov and Volkan, where my head was at??.. my mistake. I was a little confuse as the reason above, and thinking it can be that, but you always did very good edits, so I pop by and check with you and you are right again :). Thank you and cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 16:01, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Information to be added on the page of Conor Mcgregor

This is a former Wikipedian HardSunBadMoon. The message is intended to inform you that a very important fact about conor is missing on the article of forementioned personality which is of very high importance. Notorious was an unemployed Irish plumber in his early life and the preceding statement was found missing by me when i was checking the article. It has also been confirmed and verified by many reliable websites like Joe.ie and BuisnessInsider. Thus, its an appeal to add the information and maintain the class of the article. Regards117.225.107.110 (talk) 16:57, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi 117.225.107.110 Greetings. The information about Mcgregor was a plumber is already on the "Early life" section. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Follow-up to your Articles for Creation Help Desk reply

Thanks for your help, but I'm still confused. I eventually figured out how to enable VisualEditor, but I don't see any field into which I can paste the URL of the source article (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshkosh_Steam_Wagon) as you described. Thanks again. Jelliott4 (talk) 01:52, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jelliott4 Good day. I am not sure VisualEditor works in De (German) Wikipedia. Try on English (EN) Wikipedia and see if click "cite" on the top menu, a window is poped out of not where there are a field you could paste the URL. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:55, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:2018–19 Women's World Squash Championship

Hi CASSIOPEIA, can you please take the Draft:2018–19 Women's World Squash Championship article and publish it. There are other articles linking to this page and the tournament is in its current season. The article is also of encyclopedia noteworthy because it is informing the reader as to when the tournament is taking place and that its format has changed regarding when it is being held. Finally as a World Championship it is of considerable significance. many thanksRacingmanager (talk) 11:55, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Racingmanager Good day. The references / sources you provided are not considered independent, reliable sources. Pls provide at least 3 independent reliable, such as from major newspapers which the sources talk about the subject (2018–19 Women's World Squash Championship)in length and in depth. Once you have done that, then pls pop back here and let me know. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:37, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now use Google Translate in the content translation tool. [9][10]
  • You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
  • Earlier a quoted HTML attribute had to be followed by a space. Now it doesn't. This means that some pages could look different when you save them even if you didn't edit that part of the text. [11][12]
  • Advanced item Templates with <templatestyles> could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. <templatestyles> has a new wrapper parameter now. You can use it for selectors like .mw-parser-output <wrapper parameter value> <selector from CSS page>. [13]

Problems

  • When you see an edit in the recent changes feed or in the history of a page some of them have tags. Some tags are added automatically. You can also add tags manually. Tags for edits that have been added manually can be edited. This didn't work for a little while. This has now been fixed. [14]

Changes later this week

  • You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
  • Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage. [15]
  • Advanced item The AbuseFilter variable minor_edit has been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on Special:AbuseFilter.
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 15

17:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Welcome...

To the portals project.

Thank you for joining!

The next issue of our newsletter will be coming out very soon.

You can get caught up with recent history of the portal system by reading our newsletter archive.

The main introduction to portals is Wikipedia:Portal.

For a list of all portals, see Category:All portals.

To create a new portal, place the code {{subst:bpsp}}[[Category:Category:Portals needing placement of incoming links]] on a blank portal page, and click on Preview.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   07:54, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

draft help

hello please assist me regarding the draft draft:meri pehli mohabbat. AR.Dmg (talk) 12:10, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi AR.Dmg Good day. Your draft has been deleted. Not sure how could I help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:40, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

I'd like your help

Hello Cassiopeia, I'd like your help in creating a page for my company. You speedily deleted me before and I don't want it to be speedily deleted again so I'd like to come to you and ask for help (or tips at least). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colincabana (talk • contribs) 23:18, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Colincabana, Greetings and apologies for getting back to you late as I am in transit and places that off the grids at times. Good to know you are looking for help. What you could do is to read
  1. WP:Your First Article to know how to read an article in Wikipedia
  2. referencing for beginners to understand how to provide inline citations
  3. pls provide at least 3 (i) independent, (ii) reliable sources such as from major newspapers / academic journals (iii) which the sources talk about the subject in length and in dept and not only passing mentioned.
  4. the content need to writ in a neutral point of view; not WP:PROMOTION and WP:PUFF
  5. no violation of copyright infringement- write summaries the sources content in "your own words".
  6. go to notability page and look at the right panel and click on the relevant topics and follow the links.
  7. pls click on all the blue highlighted texts on this message and it will lead you to other pages for for info and/or instructions.
Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:52, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #026, 20 Jan 2019

Well, here's the first issue of the new year. Enjoy...

New participants

A hearty welcome to new arrivals to the portals department:

Harvesting categories tool prototype

DannyS712 has created a user script prototype, User:DannyS712/Cat links, that can pull members from a category, a functionality we've been after since the project's revamp last Spring. Now, it's a matter of applying this technique to scripts that will place the items where needed, such as in a section starter script and/or portal builder script.

New portals since last issue

  1. Academic publishing
  2. Accounting
  3. Adam and Eve
  4. African Great Lakes
  5. Al Green
  6. Alternative views
  7. America's Next Top Model
  8. Andaman and Nicobar Islands
  9. Angles
  10. Applied mathematics
  11. Arabic
  12. Areas of mathematics
  13. Atlanta metropolitan area
  14. Atlantic Ocean
  15. Big Bash League
  16. Bijelo Dugme
  17. Bill Cosby
  18. Boats
  19. Bombardier Aerospace
  20. Bruce Willis
  21. Canadian law
  22. Cannons
  23. Caribbean American
  24. Chinese American
  25. Chinese Canadians
  26. Chinese gardens
  27. Chris Brown
  28. City
  29. Common law
  30. Criminal law
  31. Czechoslovakia
  32. Data
  33. Data warehouses
  34. DC Comics
  35. Deities
  36. DeKalb County
  37. Destiny's Child
  38. Differential equations
  39. Discrete geometry
  40. East Asia
  41. Economy of China
  42. Economy of India
  43. Economy of Malaysia
  44. Economy of the United Kingdom
  45. Ellen DeGeneres
  46. Email clients
  47. E
  48. Equations
  49. European Americans
  50. Filipino Americans
  51. Football in Algeria
  52. Fox Corporation
  53. Fractions and ratios
  54. Functional analysis
  55. Game theory
  56. Girlguiding
  57. Gloucestershire
  58. Grazhdanskaya Oborona
  59. Greek diaspora
  60. Habsburg Monarchy
  61. Hilbert's problems
  62. Hoodoo Gurus
  63. Hyundai Motor Company
  64. Iggy Azalea
  65. Indian Ocean
  66. Infinity
  67. Information theory
  68. Integrals
  69. Irish diaspora
  70. Irrational numbers
  71. Italian diaspora
  72. Japanese diaspora
  73. J. Cole
  74. Jennifer Lopez
  75. Jessica Lange
  76. John Fogerty
  77. Kehlani
  78. Kiev
  79. K. Michelle
  80. Knot theory
  81. Kool & the Gang
  82. Lakes in China
  83. Lake Van
  84. Leonardo DiCaprio
  85. Limerick
  86. Literary composition
  87. Long Island Rail Road
  88. Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority
  89. Lukas Graham
  90. Mathematical optimization
  91. Matt Damon
  92. Merchant ships
  93. Metallic means
  94. Metro-North Railroad
  95. Microsoft Windows
  96. Military of India
  97. Miss America
  98. Modulation
  99. Moon landing
  100. Mozilla
  101. Music of Ireland
  102. Narratives
  103. Nashville
  104. Nassau County
  105. Norfolk
  106. Nottinghamshire
  107. One Life to Live
  108. Overseas Chinese
  109. Percentages
  110. Probability distributions
  111. Public Broadcasting Service
  112. Quezon City
  113. Raven-Symoné
  114. R. Kelly
  115. Rodeo
  116. RuneScape
  117. Sarah Silverman
  118. Saturn rockets
  119. Science and technology
  120. Sesame Street
  121. Seth MacFarlane
  122. Ships
  123. Shipwrecks
  124. Shropshire
  125. Spaceports
  126. Space suits
  127. Spanish diaspora
  128. Steam locomotives
  129. Suffolk
  130. Suzuki
  131. Tanks
  132. Tensors
  133. The CW
  134. Thomas Aquinas
  135. T.I.
  136. TISM
  137. Tom Cruise
  138. Toni Braxton
  139. Toyota
  140. Transportation in the Philippines
  141. True Blood
  142. Violin
  143. Virgin Group
  144. Vladimir Putin
  145. Volkswagen
  146. Volume
  147. Warner Bros.
  148. Warships
  149. Warwickshire
  150. Washington D.C.
  151. [[Portal:Watercraft|
  152. Web syndication
  153. Wikis
  154. Witchcraft
  155. Women's sports
  156. World of Warcraft

What else is going on

There have been some discussions at Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines.

DreamyJazz is working on a bot to place links to portals on root articles, category pages, and navigation footer templates.

Portal bugs are getting dealt with soon after they are reported.

Lots of wikignome activity (using Hotcat, etc.).

Keep up the good work.    — The Transhumanist   08:07, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-04

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

  • Some people did not get last week's issue of Tech News. This was because of a problem with MassMessage. If you did not get last week's issue, you can read it on Meta. [16]

Recent changes

  • The content translation tool can now use version 2 as the default version for users who turned on the beta feature. For example it adds the tracking category Pages with unreviewed translations to translations that might have used machine translations without fixing the problems. This is so others can find them. You can find this category in Special:TrackingCategories on Wikipedias.
  • https://mediawiki2latex-large.wmflabs.org can now convert collects of up to 800 pages to PDF, EPUB or ODT. Previously this was 200 pages.

Problems

  • When a template was edited with the visual editor, it would sometimes put all information on one line. This makes it difficult to read for editors who use the wikitext editor. It also makes it more difficult to see what happened in a diff. This problem affected edits made between 8 and 17 January and is now fixed. [17]
  • MassMessage is used to post a message to many pages. It has not been working reliably. Some messages have not been posted to everyone. [18][19]
  • Because of a database problem that had to be fixed immediately you could not edit most wikis for a couple of minutes on 17 January (UTC). This has now been fixed. [20]

Changes later this week

  • You will be able to use template styles in the Module namespace. [21]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 January. It will be on all wikis from 24 January (calendar).

Meetings

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20:34, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

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