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Rage Epilepsy

Did you even have time to read the article before you tagged it for deletion ? What on earth do you know about this subject as a math student ? It is not non-sence and if <<personal attack>> Dowew (talk) 02:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

They are numerous articles related to rage and epilepsy. You can update them if you wish. But the article you created is in no way an encyclopedia article. Cenarium (talk) 02:16, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

O jo kaluguran daka

Just wanted to let you know: O jo kaluguran daka was written in another language, and therefore shouldn't be tagged as nonsense. I deleted it anyway, but because it failed another criterion: failure to assert notability. Nyttend (talk) 04:03, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, what about the picture and the web links ? O jo kaluguran daka seems to be some kind of lyric indeed (google says). But altogether, it makes no sense (should we consider an article of Wikipedia as a whole piece, or as a patchwork ?). I had thought about using other templates but still, this one seemed to be the most appropriate to me, and I've remarked only now that it's possible to give several reasons. Cenarium (talk) 04:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Compassvale Secondary School

I didnt vandalize the page... Is this the way to talk to you? by editing your page? ElvynKoa (talk) 13:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes you did and any administrator can confirm it.Cenarium (talk) 13:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

as in what i did was vandalising? BTW I'm not a sock puppet. ElvynKoa (talk) 13:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Homotopy Principle

You vandalized the page, not I. I improved the treatment of the topic; you erased my work. Why destroy truth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.235.227.121 (talk) 14:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

You must be kidding.Cenarium (talk) 02:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

The Jones Family take L.A by Storm

In regard to this article, I wanted to clarify which procedure you were trying to use to delete it. You placed a {{prod}} notice on the page for proposed deletion, but you also created a page for it at Articles for deletion. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:55, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I should have placed a subst:afd1 on the article ?Cenarium (talk) 12:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I've changed the tag, this article should be deleted as soon as possible.Cenarium (talk) 12:22, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

A question, how the article is deleted after the 5 days in a proposed deletion, by an administrator, or a bot ? Cenarium (talk) 12:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

All WP:AFD deletions have to be decided by an administrator rather than a bot, because the weight of the discussion has to be judged in favor of one side or the other. (Note that a non-administrator is allowed to close WP:AFD discussions when there is a consensus to keep; however, a consensus to delete has to be closed by an admin since only admins have access to the delete article function.) --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

You Are Wrong

Wikilost (talk) 06:34, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Someone has suggested to bring Truxedo to AfD [1]. -- Cenarium (talk) 13:01, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Rage Epilepsy

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Rage Epilepsy, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Rage Epilepsy. Eubulides (talk) 03:38, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I've always been for the deletion of this article. Thanks for the proof that it's a hoax. Cenarium (talk) 18:36, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the silly stuff on my talk page.[2] This IP has been pestering about ever since I spent the day watching the featured article on the main page about four weeks ago. Just out of curiosity, how did it come to your attention? Risker (talk) 23:09, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I was patrolling the recent changes. -- Cenarium (talk) 23:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Content removal from SSE page

I removed the section on the beta because it is now irrelevant. The game is gold and available at retail in 2 days. What is the point of a beta section or putting it back in?66.26.82.58 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you must always indicate a reason in the edit summary, particularly when you remove content of an article and when you are using an IP address. I have commented at the talk page of the article. -- Cenarium (talk) 23:52, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Kim Jong-il

• Why did you move this page back to the vandalized title? JuJube (talk) 18:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought I reverted the move. Sorry. Cenarium (talk) 18:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I always do the wrong thing when reverting page move vandalism. -- Cenarium (talk) 18:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Outtakes and mistakes

I've changed the tag slightly - R3 (redirect form an implausible spelling mistake) seems to fit the situation a fair bit better. Thanks! gb ^{(t, c)} 19:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I used R3 the first time it was created, reasons advanced for deletion are always subjective, see the log. - Cenarium (talk) 20:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Crashdown (album)

I've declined the speedy tag you placed on Crashdown (album). The reason is:

Not obviously a hoax.

For your information, עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, please refer to the deletion log [3] of Shredanator, it seems that two administrators have agreed that it was some kind of hoax and speedily deleted it, I logically requested speedy for the album. Cenarium (talk) 12:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

They didn't delete Shredanator as a hoax, they deleted it as having no content (a hoax does have content, false content) and as a test page. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

The second deletion was under nonsense, a google search at Shredanator crashdown returns only results from Wikipedia , how possibly could an album not appear on the net ? (And there is nothing on a band called Shredanator too.) Cenarium (talk) 14:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, it will be deleted by tomorrow. Cenarium (talk) 11:27, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

DarkSun

Don Not delete the article, I'm trying to put its notability. This band has worked and collaborated with bands like Rage, Primal Fear, Angra, Sinner, all thi gives importance to the band. Please hangon until I put all the references and their njotabillity. Rockk3r (talk) 17:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, go on. Cenarium (talk) 17:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey I put their website, their myspace profile, their discography, their history, the band's members, well... everything. I'd like to know what did you mean with notability, so I can put it on the article. Please put your messages in my talk page, not yours, so I can know when you write me something, thanks. Rockk3r (talk) 17:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

It's explained here (it's the link on the db tag). Cenarium (talk) 17:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Look I put a past member, "Rafael Yugueros", member of the power metal band WarCry, they have worked with many notable bands, so the speedy deletion should be taken off. Please (If you think) this deletion should be taken off the article then do it. Or you can tell me what else do I need to put. Rockk3r (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The band must meet one of the 12 criteria presented here. If none is satisfied, the article should be deleted. For your information, hundreds of articles on bands are deleted every month. Cenarium (talk) 18:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

However, failing to meet those criteria does not qualify an article for speedy deletion. An article which asserts notability, but which does not meet other criteria must be deleted through a process other than speedy deletion. Dsmdgold (talk) 00:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, It's in the introduction of WP:MUSIC and I recognise that I shouldn't have tagged it for speedy (I admit that I had not completely read the article, I based my CSD on a web search, I'll avoid this in the future) but DarkSun has been nominated for deletion now and it must satisfy one of these criteria or it will be deleted. Cenarium (talk) 01:24, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

DarkSun

Hi, I have removed the speedy tag you placed on DarkSun. The articles assert that this band has released three albums in the last six years. Releasing albums can lead to notability, so this article is not eleigible for CSD A7. If you feel that this band fails the more general notability criteria, then PROD and AfD are still available. Dsmdgold (talk) 19:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, I should have removed the speedy tag. But I was unsure because I've not found any reliable source proving these facts. Cenarium (talk) 19:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

DarkSun

The article is unlikely to be deleted. I do agree that I need to enunciate the band's notability better. I think it could be btter just to tag on the article {{unsourced}} because you're right about one thing - it needs references. I'm gonna put this on their talk page Rockk3r Talk to me16:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

It needs reliable sources. Cenarium (talk) 14:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Nami Tamaki Page

I see you have offered the suggestion of moving the trivia information to the biography section of the article. I think that is a good idea, and you can go ahead and do that if you wish so we can get rid of that trivia section. If you need any help let me know and I shall assist in any way i can. AnthonyWalters (talk) 14:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I've deleted most of the content of the trivia section, which was too weakly related to Nami (following WP:BLP) and obscure in many parts. I started two sections, career and anime and game industry, maybe their titles should be changed. If you think that I've removed too much content, feel free to replace it in the appropriate section. Cenarium (talk) 17:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

T. Rajendar

I reverted edit by User:Reddogg as he has removed only the negative statements about T. Rajendar thereby making it a POV. As per my knowledge, Wikipedia does not prohibit the usage of criticism, only that the article should not be heavily biased for or against the person concerned.-Ravichandar 04:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree but the filmography section is still unreferenced and some people think that the article is biased against T. Rajendar (see the talk). The article is still in violation of WP:BLP. Cenarium (talk) 14:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Portals up on MfD

I'd like to note that the page you keep citing, Wikipedia:Trivia sections, when discussing Did you know boxes and hooks in portals, was created with intention to be applied to articles. Many, and I daresay most of the hooks (the Did you know items, i.e. "Did you know that...") in such boxes have actually appeared on the Main Page as such and aren't just useless lists of unsourced information. I'd appreciate it if you stop disregarding others' hard work on DYK articles and classing them as "trivia". Cheers, Spebi 00:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and would you mind responding here, rather than at my talk page? Thanks. Spebi 00:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I have myself created a portal and DYKs, I don't disregard your work. And I said that, in my opinion, DYKs on such a topic are similar to trivia sections because the scope is too limited as I explained at the Mfd page. I have not cited Wikipedia:Trivia sections as an authority, I am open to further discussion. I really don't understand why you said "...you stop disregarding others' hard work...". Cheers too,Cenarium (talk) 00:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Probably not the right choice of words. I meant that I find it a bit rude that you class others' hard work as trivia, which is often disregarded and described as useless, unsourced, rumours or "crap that doesn't fit anywhere else". I can see where you're coming from, though. I've left a response at the MfD debate. Cheers, Spebi 05:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Iranian Peoples

Dear Sir, thank you for rev to last correct vers, you have my gratitude, the other guy seems to be driven by some sort of agenda refusing to use newer reports and ignoring the dom of the horse in Lorestan region. and etc. thanx again.Cyrus111 (talk) 23:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

High Risk, 1981

Hello!

I recently tried to edit the James Coburn film,High Risk.

I see you misunderstood at what I was doing.

I am wishing soon we can fix the tiny issue.

Thanks a lot, EJElectric Japan (talk) 12:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

You have moved the page High Risk to the page CBS 1988 television program, in mistake. You have probably clicked on the "move" button, if you want to edit a page, click on the "edit this page" button. I have fixed this move issue. Cenarium (talk) 17:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Voltaire's play "Mahomet"

Do you have prove of this comment: "Muhammad's lechery prompted him to invent a commandment from Allah" ? One needs to prove intent to prove lechery.Provide proof for that intention to support claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.154.253.113 (talk) 16:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The analysis section of the article is not a direct work of Voltaire or a published part of his play. As such, comments about lechery and the invention of verses in the Quraan are nothing but additional material added with subjective anti-Islamic undertones, meanwhile the article should describe the play and not add to it new material to give it juice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.154.253.113 (talk) 16:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

You can express your concerns at the talk page of the article, as I may not be very helpful about that. But no need to cite me there, just copy/paste your comment. Remember to sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~. Cenarium (talk) 16:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Tell Angela I'm Sorry

I just feel sooo sooo bad I promise I won't do it again Heatsketch (talk) 05:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

High Risk

Thanks any help you provide. I appreciate this.

EJElectric Japan (talk) 14:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

wow, sorry-- totally too distracted to edit properly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:131.216.163.226

some parts were repeated.

131.216.163.226 (talk) 20:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)E.

Speedy delete of the Barbie Film

Hi there. I noticed that you removed my speedy tag on the 'possible film' with the reason "can't speedy a film". Can you tell me where it says this in the CSD criteria? I'm asking because I can't see it and would like to know for future use. Best wishes -Fritzpoll (talk) 22:16, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Generally, fiction cannot be speedily deleted because the article doesn't satisfy any of the WP:CSD criteria. For example, the context was clear (it was a film), so it could not be deleted per A1. They are exceptions, for example when it's an attack page, a blatant advertising or a copyright infringement, or a really blatant hoax. Cenarium (talk) 22:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

That makes it a lot clearer, and I can see what you mean in the context of the criteria. Thanks for taking the time to clear that up - Fritzpoll (talk) 23:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Co.nr

Restored and fixed. :-) east.718 at 13:01, February 17, 2008

Thanks :D

SyntaxError55 ^talk has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching! For reverting vandalism on my user page. :D

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Thanks, :) Cenarium (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the revert! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

J.delanoy^gabs_adds has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

And for mine too :) Seraphim♥ ^Whipp 23:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, :) Cenarium (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, at least you're not just jumping to conclusions. 142.162.15.17 (talk) 23:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I do have an account, I just can't seem to get into it right now for some reason, my password is correct though. 142.162.15.17 (talk) 23:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

No problems, I don't know for the account. Cenarium (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Chief Oil and Gas Notability

This article is VERY notable. This company is one of the biggest independent players in a little thing called the Barnett Shale, one of the largest natural gas fields in the US. This is a billion dollar company. Do I need more references, links to newspaper articles, etc? I tried to follow the same format as other companies in the same industry. See Devon Energy and Chesapeake Energy.

Please remove the notability tag or give me a reason why you put it there. Thanks, --Gittinsgranado (talk) 21:51, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's explained on the notability tag, you must bring more third party sources. Cenarium (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Phantom Planet(disambiguation)

A tag has been placed on Phantom Planet(disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. ukexpat (talk) 14:45, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

This is not the appropriate CSD, the correct CSD was R3. Btw, I was not the creator, I just moved the article to the correct name. I was about to tag it but I had to do something offwiki. Cenarium (talk) 15:10, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Message

Hello, Cenarium. You have new messages at Vivio Testarossa's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Vivio Testarossa^{Talk Who} 03:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Message

Hello, Cenarium. You have new messages at SyG's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

SyG (talk) 14:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

It has to be renamed to Pristina

It has to be renamed to Pristina —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendobs (talk • contribs) 18:05, 8 March 2008

You can engage a discussion at WP:RM, but please, don't move pages unilaterally. And sign your posts.Cenarium (talk) 18:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Speedy reverts

Dude you are too fast for me, you must have beaten me to it at least 20 times tonight alone :P Nice work --General Jazza (talk) 21:11, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I have rollback rights. I have my own recent changes page too. Cenarium (talk) 21:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Though I patrol the recent changes and rollback manually so I can't match the speed of people using, for example, huggle. Cenarium (talk) 18:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Infradian rhythms

Infradian rhythms are biological rhythms lasting for less than 24 hours. An example is the feeding cycle of some animals according to the tides. Ultradian rhythms are biological rhythms that last for longer than 24 hours. An example is the human female 28-day menstrual cycle.

Please stop changing this page not knowing what they are. For validity, look them up on a REAL MEDICAL site/publishing not some bogus source.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Aslidaku911 (talk • contribs) 21:19, 9 March 2008

I assume that you are user:99.227.248.246. You removed mass content from this article without explaining your reasons. It's not to me that you should explain why, you must give a short reason in your edit summary, and on the article's talk page if it's not enough. This kind of edit is considered vandalism. Cenarium (talk) 21:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Theology Online

I don't want to cause a stir but do you think Theology Online should get an AFD or at least a prod? I have no problems with the content and whatnot, but it's rather odd how right after I once tagged it a speedy, an influx of new account showed up promoting the site on the talk page. -WarthogDemon 23:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Maybe we can wait another weak, then nominate it for deletion if no reliable sources have been given, which will probably be the case. A proposed deletion is likely to be removed. Cenarium (talk) 00:17, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Tantus

I have now added quite a bit of information to the Tantus page and quite a few sources too. Can I remove the deletion tag you added? —Preceding unsigned comment added by O-Ring (talk • contribs) 01:17, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I removed it, don't forget to sign your comments with four tildes and to create a new heading when the thread is a new subject, as remembered at the top of the page. Cenarium (talk) 01:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

copyright

if i publish a website saying 'the sky is blue', can i then go claim copyright and force that statement off wikipedia*? what i have copied are statements of fact. to re-write them would risk the truth of the statements.

• obviosuly a rhetorical question, i'm not stupid :p

ninety:one 12:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Revert on my article

Thanks for removing the crap from my article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sainik1/J3HaaD

Hate people vandalizing it everyday! --Sainik1 (talk) 17:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank-you

I can has mop?

Hi Cenarium! Thank-you for your support in my RfA (91/1/1). I take all the comments to heart and hope I can fulfil the role of being an admin to the high standard that the community deserves. Seraphim♥ Whipp 17:17, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations, I'm sure you will meet the standards. Cenarium (talk) 18:53, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

User Warnings

Hello and thank you for your advice, is there any particular directory of warning templates here on wikipedia? because I am not quite sure what all the warning templates are, it would be a great help if you could provide that. AndreNatas (talk) 21:05, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

There is this page: Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. The chain {{uw-v1}}, {{uw-v2}}, {{uw-v3}}, {{uw-v4}} is the most used. Of course, they should always be substituted, and they are cases where we can jump directly to {{uw-v4im}}. You can find many of templated talk pages examples in the wild. Cenarium (talk) 21:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :D. AndreNatas (talk) 21:18, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Pinki Lili

I have undeleted Pinki Lili and wish you the best of luck in improving it. Jon513 (talk) 22:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I made a stub of it. Cenarium (talk) 22:48, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Your recent CSD tag of Hp tx1000us

Hi, I see that you tagged Hp tx1000us. However, it seems it is not the correct CSD category. This article seems to be describing the predecessor of HP Compaq TC1100, another article that has merit. Perhaps, giving the article another chance or merge it to the HP Compaq TC1100 article would be better than speedy deleting it. Have a great day! - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 20:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The article has already been deleted, you can ask the administrator who performed the task. It was not the correct CSD category indeed and I tend to agree with you on the line. But, it's gone. Cenarium (talk) 21:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for catching and fixing [4] my accidential deletion! --Kralizec! (talk) 00:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok, it explains. Because this IP made only disruptive reverts. It resulted in this. Cenarium (talk) 00:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Adoption Program

OK, I know your not trying to offend me. Many people (admins especcialy) really like my program. I am not a bigginer any more if you think I am imature to adopt, I do know the banning policy, revert, rollback, ect. I would like to know how you don't like it.--RyRy5 talk 19:04, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

No, it's OK. I may stop the program. I don't really want to talk about it.--RyRy5 talk 21:13, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I know you didn't mean to, but please don't bite me.--RyRy5 talk 02:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

No comment. Cenarium^Talk 13:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

(hijacking header) Hi there! Just dropped a comment at RyRy5's talk page, and since you were involved in that discussion I thought you may be interested. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 02:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Ryry5

It's ok, I'm not accusing you of anything. However, I was just concerned at the approach you were taking; your analysis of his edit statistics seemed very peculiar to me, seeing as we generally acknowledge that edit count means essentially nothing. Your response did give advice, true, and it wasn't overtly offensive, but the undertone (at least the one I got out of it) was "what are you doing? You have no idea." Anyway, in terms of the adoption program, it may be very ambitious, but it still seems good-hearted (not sure what this dubious information is), and his usage of Jimbo's talk page was probably just an effort to get it noticed by people (also, note that most new users think that Jimbo has a much more involved role in the talk-page-level workings of Wikipedia than he actually does). Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 03:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree, his mainspace contribs are lacking. But such is the way with many new Wikipedians. Also, I don't think length of time can really judge a person's experience here; if a new user logged on today and spent, say, three fully days learning policy they'd probably know more than many senior editors. So he may have been here for a month but that doesn't mean he's been exposed to AFD, cleanup, stubs, etc. Also, many people want to appear more distinguished than they really are. Respect is a valued commodity in the online world, whether you're at Wikipedia or Myspace. I agree, there are some negative parts that come along with this. And maybe he felt attacked, I'm not sure. The bottom line is nobody's to blame here, and nobody is at fault; rather, it was just a miscommunication between well-meaning editors. If you'd like to, you can apologize, though of course you don't have to, and I'm sure nobody's going to hold any grudges. Also, RyRy5 is friends with one of my adoptees and Wiki-friends, Basketball110, so I can mentor them both I guess; I'll mention the "veil of experience" thing to them. Anyway, thanks for being so rational about this. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 21:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, when you arrive at a massive project like this, I guess it feels a bit vast. Some people just want to have the comfort of knowing that there are others who share their interests, which is what I judge the cabals to be. Some are also just for fun, and you're right, as long as they're kept in the background it's all for the best. Anyway, thanks for making my first interaction with you awesome; hopefully there are more to come! :) Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 23:33, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Reply

It's OK. Most people think I'm a newcomer. I've been only here for 1 month. I'm actually slowing down the program too.--RyRy5 talk 18:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

I can has mop?

Hi Cenarium/Archive 1! Thank you for your support in my RfA (87/3/3). I truely appreciate the many votes of confidence, and I will exert myself to live up to those expectations. Thanks again! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 17:56, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

RFC

WP:AN#Cabals, part 2. There's an RFC in the making. Just notifying you in case you don't check AN, as I'd like to have the entire community (or at least a lot of opinions) in this. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 21:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

ANI discussion

Thanks for opening that. (No, seriously). I've written a bit more there as well as what I said at ANI. Basically, you're 100% correct, and I'm seriously trying to do something about it. Regards, dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 10:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

btw. out of curiosity, did you withdraw the RfC "endorsement" because of my Compwhizi/blog stuff, or some other reason? (And feel free to not answer)

I withdraw because you said "Editors matter, but the encyclopedia matters more.". I can't support that in this form, particularly after what happened, but your clarification, rewording is clearer about that. So I'll support it. Cenarium^Talk 10:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 08:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for opening it and letting me know. Drmiko (talk) 09:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Maths portals

Hi Cenarium! I've noticed that you've been doing a lot of work on maths (sub-)portals - notably creating Portal:Category theory and Portal:Set theory. Given this and my recent work, it's inevitable our paths will cross at some stage. So, I was wondering what other maths portals do you think should be created? The obvious pure maths gaps are Number Theory and Analysis... but should Calculus be inluced in the latter or seperately? The whole sector of Applied Maths isn't covered - or alternatively, it's covered everywhere else in bits. I personally think that there should be one Applied portal, but not seperate ones for probabability/stats/etc.... although maybe one for Discrete maths. Anyway, enough of me rambling - let me know what you think. Tompw (talk) (review) 18:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you're making a great work with maths portals. Since only a few editors are attracted by maths portals, our paths were bound to cross indeed. I think that portal:Analysis, portal:Number theory, portal:Applied mathematics, portal:Discrete mathematics and portal:Mathematical physics will be enough, in the apparent order of priority. For example, the theoritical aspects of probability theory can go to portal:Analysis as a subtopic of measure theory, and the applied aspects to portal:Applied Mathematics. Also, it depends on the quality of our articles. We have nice articles in discrete maths, in graph theory for example (e.g. Pseudoforest, Four color theorem). Calculus should go to portal:Analysis, this way, the portal will be diversified, ranging from basic calculus to functional analysis. A portal in mathematical physics is an interesting idea, it's not covered in other portals. Cenarium^Talk 00:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I was planning on Number Theory today... will work on Applied instead. I don't see why some topics can't be present in both Discrete and Topology... there's always going to be overlap between areas. (Case in point: I learnt about graph theory as part of discerete maths module at school, then got taught from a completely dfifferent angle in algebraic topology...). I agree with the chnage in layout for releated portals (maybe with wider cells?)... My only comment is that Discrete and Number Theory should use the same image as on Portal:Mathematics/MathematicsTopics. Doesn't matter which gets changed. (Btw, see Portal:Canada for large related portals box... my experience with that was that more than 11 in a row doesn't work).

Related issue: User:Tompw/sandbox9... shows various examples of a tab-based system... main disadvatnage is that is hs to be seleictive rather than comprehensive. Let me know what you think. Tompw (talk) (review) 13:43, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

With regard to tabs, I was inspired by Portal:Religion (somewhat apropriately), though I wanted to improve on the system used there. It wouldn't be tabs per se, just a navigation aid that looks tab-like (because I think it would look pretty more than anything else).

Something else I meant to mention last time but didn't: colours.... do you have any objection to me changing the colours for Number Theory and Discrete away form the default to something yellow-based and purple-based respectively? Also, would you be OK wityh somethign like Portal:Box-header/38 for Category Theory? Tompw (talk) (review) 16:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for changing the background colour on Category Theory... as you've probably guessed, I'm trying to get a consistent "feel" between the different maths portals, while using the main colour as an identifier. If blue's your preferred colour, how about something like Portal:Box-header/26, with #1F4F7F (darker verion of that blue) for header text?

I see from your home page you're studying maths... would I be right in guessing your prefered areas are the logic/fundamantals sort of things? I did a mixture of pure (geometry and topolgy for preference) and applied (well, maths phys). Tompw (talk) (review) 17:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Infradian rhythms

When you talk about infradian rhythms, you dont look at frequency compared to circadian, you look at length compared to circadian as all medical sites and books list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.248.246 (talk) 04:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you should go to the talk page of the article: Talk:Infradian rhythm. Please, sign your posts on talk pages using 4 tildes: ~~~~ . Also, you need to give references so that we can verify. Cenarium^Talk 10:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Userpage Skin

Hello, how did you get the table etc onto your userpage?--Energizer07 (talk) 10:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello, it's transcluded from user:Cenarium/1 and others are transcluded in user:Cenarium/1, for example User:Cenarium/Navigation and user:Cenarium/Userboxes. I suppose that your rollback here was a mistake ? I reverted it. Also, you can use these warnings when you warn a user, you just have to substitute the warning, for example {{subst:uw-vx}} with x a number between 1 and 4. Cenarium^Talk 10:24, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Just so you know...

...I've replied to the comment you made here. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 21:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I replied. Cenarium^Talk 21:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Erm...In Nick's neutral (on this RFA), he said that my behavior left him with a bitter taste in his mouth. I was shocked to see this because I didn't really notice anything hostile that I had posted on the RFA, and because my comment to you is the only one on this RFA, I would like to apologize to you for any terseness or hard feelings created by my comment. I sincerely didn't mean to offend you, and if I did....then I apologize profusely for it. Best wishes, Malinaccier (talk) 23:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

What makes you say that he referred to you ? You haven't said anything hostile or whatsoever in the RFA. I think that Nick refers to the behavior of Xenocidic, and not in this RFA. Cenarium^Talk 23:05, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I'll look into it. Malinaccier (talk) 23:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

This has been clarified at user talk:Nick#Bitter behavior?. For the best, Cenarium^Talk 02:38, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

thank spam

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 194 supporting, 9 opposing, and 4 neutral. Your kindness and constructive criticism is very much appreciated. I look forward to using the tools you have granted me to aid the project. I would like to give special thanks to Tim Vickers, Anthony and Acalamari for their nominations. Thank you again, VanTucky

Rfa thanks

Thanks for supporting my recent request for adminship which was successful with 89 supports, 0 opposes, and 2 neutrals. Unfortunately all I can offer is this lame text thanks rather than some fancy-smancy thank-you spam template thingy. I was very pleased to receive such strong support and to hear so many nice comments from editors whom I respect. I’ll do my best with the tools, and if you ever see me going astray don’t hesitate to drop a note on my talk page. Thanks again for your support!--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 03:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Red 13 Band

You "Cenarium" added a notability Tag to Red 13 (Band, I'm new to this and I didn't really understand the rules, I read the Notability guidelines and I think that i have satisfied them. Red 13 has competed in "The Break contest" to play a nationally accredited festival "The Bamboozle", and have won, securing themselves a spot May 3rd Mainstage at "The bamboozle" @ The Medowlands Sports complex, East Rutherford, NJ according to "9. Has won or placed in a major music competition." - Wikipedia:Notability (music) & They also are releasing a album on Romulus X Records in May '08 "5. Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable)." Although Not Two albums.. between the One album and the major Music Competition i think red 13 is sufficiently notable. I thank you for pointing this issue out to me, so i could make the necessary adjustments. If you see anymore issues or have any suggestions please let me know.

AntiMMORPG (talk) 19:06, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Dell970

Please take a look at WT:RFA#Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Dell970, and my comment under the "Discussion" section of the RFA itself (which I added after it closed). I think allegations of racist slurs have a very credible explanation. Since the RFA is kept forever, I wonder if you would consider going back to the closed RFA, and strike any portion of your comments relating to the racist slurs? Otherwise, this is likely to haunt an otherwise good faith contributor in the future. Thanks. --barneca (talk) 04:14, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

oops, didn't see you had already done just that. thanks. --barneca (talk) 04:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Viral email

An article that you have been involved in editing, Viral email, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Viral email. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Rockfang (talk) 15:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

David Long

I noticed my mistake and went back and saw you had already corrected it. Thanks--Startstop123 (talk) 14:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Wheatstone Bridge

Please be advised that I had noticed my error and corrected it before it was considered for deletion. Thank you--Startstop123 (talk) 14:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Steve the sock

I see that you posted on his talk page, per his edits, in comparison with Hdayejr's edits, and his small complication with user TPIRfanSteve, he is obiviously trying to impersonate him. Isn't that a grounds for a block, username delete?— Dædαlus^T@lk / Improve 16:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe an administrator aware of the situation should be contacted. It's probably not obvious enough for WP:AIV, a report to WP:SSP may be more appropriate. Cenarium (talk) 16:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

The user has been blocked, admins have worked this out. Cenarium (talk) 17:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Cenarium, I wanted to say thank you for supporting my request for adminship, which passed with 100 supports, 0 opposes and 1 neutral. I wanted to get round everybody individually, even though it's considered by some to be spam (which... I suppose it is! but anyway. :)). It means a lot to me that the community has placed its trust in my ability to use the extra buttons, and I only hope I can live up to its expectations. If you need anything, or notice something that bothers you, don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks again, PeterSymonds | talk 23:00, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

My reverts at Olympiakos

Hi Cenarium, Im just fixing vandalism that is going on the page would you please keep an eye on there? Redman19 (talk) 12:18, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

You're not reverting vandalism, you're in the middle of a content dispute. Cenarium (talk) 13:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Protection

Done. :) Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 22:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Reply

I saw vandalism in the first reference on the Space Needle article but I had no idea how to remove it. Can you explain it to me?

The DarkArcher was here (talk) 22:22, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

If the vandalism is the last edit to the article, then you just have to undo it, or rollback, which is particularly useful when the same user has made several edits and all of them are vandalism. If it's not the last edit, then you have to search in the history of the article the latest non-vandalized version (from diff to diff). Then you have to revert to this version (you can do that in editing the old revision), and reinstate all the constructive contributions of course, alternatively, you can remove the vandalism manually based on the latest non-vandalized version. It's explained at Help:Reverting. For the reference system, see Wikipedia:Footnotes. Cenarium (talk) 23:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks!

		RfA: Many thanks
		Many thanks for your participation in my recent request for adminship. I am impressed by the amount of thought that goes into people's contribution to the RfA process, and humbled that so many have chosen to trust me with this new responsibility. I step into this new role cautiously, but will do my very best to live up to your kind words and expectations, and to further the project of the encyclopedia. Again, thank you. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 06:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Nintendo Entertainment System

Thanks for the help in taking care of the vandalism on Nintendo Entertainment System. Its great to have support from other editors against vandals who make personal attacks. Jsmith86 (talk) 22:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, the user seems to be able to edit from several IPs in the same range 1, 2, 3. I'll try to keep an eye on the article. Cenarium (talk) 22:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Featured articles

Putting my money where my mouth is, concerning the Featured article process (as I asked of others): if there's anything I can do to explain the process or to help you get started reviewing articles, please drop me a note. More reviewers = better FAs, and that's what it's all about. Maralia (talk) 22:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the proposal. I'll try to comment in some FACs or FARs and study the process in more details. Cenarium (talk) 00:11, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

TFA reform

Hi, I’ve just made a comment on possible reform of the TFA system on Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article. Since you seem to be engaged in this issue I’d appreciate if you had a look and perhaps weighed in. Cheers! Lampman ^{Talk to me!} 16:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, there's also a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Today's_featured_article/requests#changing_this_would_make_it_easier_on_Raul...period proposing that TFAs be chosen by the community. I think that it would be a great progress. Cenarium (talk) 16:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you ...

... for the kind note you left for Laser brain. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I tried to avoid any dramatization, and I do not like insinuations or bad faith of any kind. If there is a thing to remember, it's that generalizations are unwelcome, and any editor, familiar or not with Wikipedia, is entitled to express opinions on a matter. But when they are misguided, due to misunderstandings or misinterpretations or whatever, we should assume good faith, and reply to them in order to help the user to understand the issue. When this step is over, and a user keeps making unfounded accusations, measures should be taken to ensure the preservation of a good atmosphere in our community. If a user is a target of this kind of accusations, we should support him/her, but not forget that these accusations may be innocent and genuine in the eyes of a user unaware of the issues. There is also a more serous criticism that shouldn't be discounted because we have faith in a system. Cenarium (talk) 17:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

You OK, Cenarium? I saw your "tired" notice, so was worried about you. No one likes insinuations of bad faith, and it's the one thing that wears most heavily on us, IMO. Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

No I'm ok, it's just that I spent a little too much time around recently. Cenarium (talk) 01:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Take care of yourself; I hope the weather where you are is as nice as it is here, and you have a good weekend (now back to work for me :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, as a matter of fact, I like rain and storms. And I'm just fine now, as we say, :-). Cenarium (talk) 02:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

continued from my talk page

First of all, it was not directed at you unless you were making personal insults vs Lazer. I didn't see this to be the case, however, but I haven't read all of the scattered debate. That or if you actually were beat up by a little girl in pigtails for your lunch money. (That's a joke if you're an ESL type). My only difference with you was the "significant portion of the community" comment. That's your POV, mine is: and again at least in my experience with a completely different article, that it was a vocal minority with a different agenda then as opposed to what happened with Elderly. My post was a consolation to someone who was going through what I went through, although his attackers were a little "politer" than mine. Also, I never said that you personally needed to get more involved, just that getting involved and your suggestion about other languages were two of the best ideas I heard from that debate. I edited what I said in the interest of not fanning the flames. So, I apologize if you took it as something it was not meant to be.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 18:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

for your vote of confidence and support on my RFA. I really appreciate them and will try not to disappoint! Let me know if I can help in any way... but give me some time to figure out how to do it!! --Slp1 (talk) 16:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I just wanted to thank you for reverting the vandalism on Uranus caused by someone using an I.P. router to impersonate me back in April. Do you know of any ways to prevent this from happening again? Thanks again - Falcon537 (talk) 03:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

The page has been semi protected until the 24th of July, so we won't have problems like this for a while. Cenarium (talk) 13:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Welcoming

Ok, thanks.-- Barkjon  17:44, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

'Ralph Renick' Biography

I just wanted to thank you very much for cleaning up my entries on the biography of newscaster Ralph Renick and in making the article suitable in style for the Wikipedia community. Also, thanks for finishing the photo upload that I could not figure out.

Can you tell me at what point the warning at the top of the page that says "this article has numerous issues" will disappear now that you have addressed the issues?

Again, thanks very much for your help..

Thecardsaysmoops (talk) 01:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Seriously

Are you warning yourself about deletions of pages you created during clean up after vandalism?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 14:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Nope, this is a bug of Twinkle. I forgot about this. Cenarium (talk) 14:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Kyle E. Cyote

Users are allowed to edit their userpages, but the MfD tag prohibits blanking. Does the cover the user the page belongs to as well? Ironholds 04:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, there's a contradiction indeed. We'll see the result of the MfD and, considering the recent vandalism, the page should be deleted anyway. Cenarium (talk) 12:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Eliezer Silver article

^{Superscript text} i am a decendant of this rabbi, there has been alot of vandalism to this article in the past and this article sadly was used as a forum for personal attacks by another distant family member against the family, all and any of the infomation that was put in the article by this person was not only false but had nothing to do with this great rabbi and do only but place a negative point on this article about tis true giant of american and world judaism.

at a time there was a lock on this article so that it could not be editidet as these had been and edit war as i had to monitor the articlee daily to remove any hateful attcks, but i have noticed this lock has beed removed for whatever reason, can you please reinstate the lock on editing and can this be made permanenet you can look at this history to see the rediculous attack for your self

please help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.227.4 (talk) 15:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll try to keep an eye on the article. Unprotection is not so bad, it gives you the opportunity to edit the page, and allow constructive contributions from IPs and new users. However, if the vandalism level becomes too high, then we'll protect the page again. We generally don't protect pages for ever. Cenarium (talk) 13:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

thanks much appreciated, if you look back and see the history of the article you will see the abbility to edit this article was abused for personal attack not relating to the article and also to put here say and false info about the subject of the article

thanks again —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.227.4 (talk) 15:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok. For your information, you can use the preview button before saving a page. When you reply, you just have to add several : at the beginning of your post, it will automatically add the same number of small spaces. If you type a space, it will make a sort of box. Also, please sign your comments on a talk page. Cheers, Cenarium (talk) 16:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Deleted per your request

Hey there Cenarium, I just deleted several subpages of Portal:Lego per your request at CSD. Just wanna make sure you really did want them gone. Also, I actually thought you were an admin - are you an admin? If not, why not? How long have you been here? Are you interested in adminship? Is anything holding you back from it? You can answer here, I'll watchlist this page. Cheers, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Keeper. Yeah, I mistakenly created them as subpages of /selected picture instead of /selected article. I'm not an admin, I've never been nominated at WP:RFA. I've been here for 6 months now. Well, I thought about adminship for some time now and I think I'd be helpful as an administrator. Thanks for asking me, Cenarium (talk) 21:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Has anyone offered to nominate you before? You meet my criteria for adminship, and I'd be happy to nominate you myself. Do you know of anyone that would be willing to co-nominate that I can ask on your behalf? I just looked at your edit report, in two places, and I don't see any glaring issues, but instead I see a dedicated editor that could use the extra buttons. Bonus points for having a clean blocklog. Go look at a couple of the current RFAs, and take a peak at the first three questions that are "mandatory". Keeping in mind that someone will always oppose any candidate, and keeping in mind that RFA is a rather hellish, stressful environment that requires you to basically be online and ready to answer added questions for 7 days, if you want a nom, you got one from me. I'll watch your page for your response. However, if there is any chance that you would "quit" Wikipedia because of a failed nomination (they happen all the time, and to good editors), then I won't nominate. Let me know, and cheers, I'm going offline here any minute, I'll check back here in the morning... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, I'll add, see this. (look at the bottom) I don't nominate "just anybody". I'm very careful about who I pursue. If you seriously want a nomination, let me know. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I've not been offered nomination before. I gladly accept yours, thanks. I don't know if someone is interested in co-nominate. I certainly won't quit for a failed nomination, don't worry. Cenarium (talk) 22:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Excellent. I'm going to have a dig through your contribs today, I'll set up this when I'm done. When that link goes blue, I'll return to your talkpage to let you know and "officially" notify you that you need to answer some questions :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:26, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I'll be online till 1 or 2 UTC today. Thanks :) Cenarium (talk) 17:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Official nomination

Ok, that was fun! You are an excellent contributor, and I always assumed you were an admin. Very happy to nominate. Take your time answering the questions (look at old RFAs for a general idea of what is expected). Once answered, type "I accept", and transclude it onto WP:RFA. Once transcluded, change the end time to be exactly 7 days from whenever you transcluded. Let me know if you need assistance along the way! RFA is brutal (I'm sure you're aware of that though...) Don't let it drag you down - consider it a very intense Editor Review, with good perks and bonuses on the other side :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 17:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I accept your nomination, I'm going to follow the instructions now. Thank you, Cenarium (talk) 20:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you from Horologium

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed unanimously with the support of 100 editors. Your kindness is very much appreciated. I look forward to using the tools you have granted me to aid the project. I would like to give special thanks to Wizardman, Black Falcon and jc37 for nominating me. — Horologium

Reply to your question

This gave me reason to suspect, as well as his Suppert. Nothing indicates otherwise in my opinion, especially since he hasn't even responded to my comment. — _Maggot^Syn 14:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I assumed other reasons for his support. Note that AndonicO has not participated in other RFAs whose Keeper76 was the nominator (see here). He may not be watching the RFA, but it's always possible to ask him on his talk page. Cenarium (talk) 14:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Understandable. But his comment was enough to make the assumption. :) Good luck by the way. — _Maggot^Syn 15:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Cenarium (talk) 15:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA

Best of luck for your RFA -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 09:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Cenarium (talk) 20:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Mr.Deathhawk

You placed a comment on User talk:Mr.Deathhawk after I warned regarding vandalism on an essay page. Please do not belittle me, I took the time to review the users contribs, and for the past two months at least, this users contribs have been nothing but vandalism. Maybe vandalism on an essay page does not warrant a warning, but it doesn't take too long to review a users contribs and see a pattern. Yngvarr (c) 23:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, it was not intended to you but to the user, I also warned him for vandalism. I don't think that all the contributions were vandalism. The fact that he vandalized doesn't mean I can't give him an information, based on his edit, I thought that he thought that it was an article. Cenarium (talk) 23:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Then my apologies (and strikeout) for getting a little huffy. Apparently school is out in many places and I'm getting a little tense :-/ Yngvarr (c) 23:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem, I initially wanted to put this in the edit summary when reverting, but you reverted just before me, so I didn't know what to do of this. Happy editing, Cenarium (talk) 23:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

StickK

You deleted StickK as csd-a7. I didn't see the article before it was deleted, but you probably acted correctly, since so many articles tagged for speedy don't assert notability properly, even when the topic is notable. I wanted to mention, though, that some references about the company are listed on its site (with links to the full text of news articles where they originally appeared). Could you please take a look at the references at http://www.stickk.com/about.php and see if they are enough to convince you to restore the article and improve it with those references? It sounds like a cool idea, but while I suspect that StickK is notable, I am not certain that an article about it would survive AfD. --Eastmain (talk) 02:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Undeleted per your request, the article in itself looks like an advertising. Feel free to improve the article, I'm not sure that it would survive an AfD. Cenarium ^Talk 02:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. --Eastmain (talk) 03:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Voldemore

Yup, just saw and commented on it; thanks for helping out :). As i said, I'm not one to scream cabal, but 4 users who haven't contributed for a month, have similar viewpoints and edit histories and have never even touched an MfD before all deciding seperately and spontaneously to turn up, give variations on a them for keep reasons and then immediately vanish again sets alarm bells ringing even for me. Ironholds 15:31, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and congrats on your successful RfA, by the way :). Ironholds 16:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) Cenarium ^Talk 16:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Cenarium -- butting in here -- I'd recommend filing a checkuser on this one. This guy's been getting away with this for four years. Back in 2004, several of us found a pattern of multiple voting on VFD (what it was called in those days) by people who were obviously the same, based on editing style. here is one thread that might interest you, and here is another. I wasn't an admin then, and we didn't have checkuser -- we had to ask a developer to look at the IPs -- which we apparently never got around to doing, since Crevaner/Judson/Old Right (same account as OldRightist, if you look at the history) promised to stop. I'd block them all myself if I were sufficiently confident they really were the same person (I think they are, but I really want to be right before hitting a bunch of accounts with the banhammer). The writing style appears to be identical, with use of -- before sigs, single hyphens for en-dashes, all caps for emphasis, short expulsive sentences, and a few other things. There were more threads about this person/people but I'm not finding them at the moment. Antandrus (talk) 23:37, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the information. Sounds like I can't assume good faith any more, it's not an isolated incident. I think that it warrants a checkuser indeed. I just closed the mfd so it's not ongoing anymore. Do you think I should class it as D or G ? It didn't really affect the outcome, but we just can't let this going on any more. Cenarium ^Talk 00:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Probably "D" with "G" in parens; you can clarify that you closed the discussion (thank you, btw) but there is an ongoing pattern. I'll add my two (or three) cents if you open the case. I'm looking but at the moment I can't find the other discussions we had about that case ... I'm wondering if we did some of it by e-mail. Antandrus (talk) 00:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll create the case tomorrow then. Though feel free to create it yourself. Cenarium ^Talk 01:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi again, I don't think it was very appropriate for you to have closed the mfd as you had become involved in it. In this case, I would suggest that you revert the close, or anything like that, but it would be good if you would please try to avoid closing discussions in which you have any involvement or interest, even if you didn't actually !vote. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I was not involved in the mfd, I only opened the sockpuppetry case and noted this in the MfD. This was done in a neutral and detached way. Please, don't let the fact that we had disagreements over similar mfds in the past misinterpret my actions. If you contest the deletion, you may go to deletion review. Cenarium ^Talk 01:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Cenarium, I certainly don’t want to contest the deletion. There is nothing personal here, I’m just voicing some thoughts (let’s go out of our way to ensure appearance of objectivity in admin actions). I’d prefer to say that the “disagreements over similar mfds” were exercises in putting forward alternative subtly different viewpoints. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply

There wasn't any need to move them because i already moved them. Check it out at my Workplace. Sorry for all the chaos. Thanks a million!!! --Condalence] 22:04, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah go ahead. Thanks a million again. --Condalence] 22:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

This is weird

For some reason i have two talk pages. Look: Talk:Condalence User Talk:Condalence --Condalence] 22:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

The problem here is Talk:Condalence linked to your first signature, so I clicked on it and didn't even look at the title! Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 22:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Your real talk page is user talk:Condalence, you should change it in your signature. I'm going to delete talk:Condalence, maybe you want to save the discussion elsewhere before ? Cenarium ^Talk 22:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For resolving the Voldemore MfD and sockpuppetry case so well, and also due to your massive body of previous work that doesn't seem to have any barnstars attached! Ironholds 00:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar :) Yeah, it's my first one. Though the sockpuppetry case doesn't seem to be over yet in view of new information. Cenarium ^Talk 00:20, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletions reserved for articles?

Hi Cenarium, You wrote "Proposed deletions are reserved for articles, a user can request deletion of one's userpage using WP:CSD#U1. Cenarium Talk 23:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)"

This is not my understanding, nor my observation of actual practice. I have seen PROD used for user subpages by their users, and it seems entirely appropriate. The current introduction to WP:PROD includes "User and User talk pages may also be deleted in the same way". This indicates that pPROD can be used in userspace, although I seem to remember more explicit statements in the past.

I see WP:PROD says "but only if the user has no recent edits and has made few or no contributions to the encyclopedia." This supposes that someone else is PRODding the userpage. But reason for PRODding your own userpage is give some warning to others who may be interested.

On WP:CSD#U1, if your want to speedy delete your own page, assuming no one else ever edited, and no own else could possibly have a genuine and worthwhile interest, then how better to request deletion than via PROD tag?

--SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

It seems to be a very marginal use, and uncontroversial cases are very rare for userpages. Thanks for the information, Cenarium ^Talk 01:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

reply

I did change my signature hours ago but its the old signatures that is causeing them. Should i Redirect it? Thank you. --Condalence] 01:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Gatineau Police

Since you denied the speedy-deletion for Gatineau Police, you may want to follow this pre-announcement of proposed deletions for multiple non-notable Canadian police departments. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 04:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Good, I prefer when relatively large-scale deletions are discussed. Cenarium ^Talk 17:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Question

A single purpose account Special:Contributions/Sahyadhri is continuously adding non-RS and unsourced information in The Hindu and Frontline (magazine)‎. He added information not supported by reference. Please see the history of the article The Hindu and Talk:The_Hindu#Inaccurate_edits, the article is currently protected. I have repeatedly told this user to join in Talk:The_Hindu#Inaccurate_edits, but he revert-warred instead of discussion. I have issued this user a warning for addition of unsourced material. I have reported this matter to ANI several times. Since no administrator is paying any attention to this matter, I am in the middle of a strange situation. You are an uninvolved admin, so I am asking you. My question is if this user again readd the non-RS in the artcile The Hindu after the protection expires, what should I do? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Responded at ANI. Cenarium ^Talk 15:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Article deletion

Hello Cenarium. I'd like to ask, if I may, why the 35th, 75th, and 79th fighter squadron pages were deleted? v/r Ndunruh (talk) 17:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Someone requested deletion so that 35th Fighter Squadron (United States), etc be moved to 35th Fighter Squadron, etc. I just moved the articles, thanks for the heads up. Cenarium ^Talk 17:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Copy, I must have had a bad link. Thanks much! Ndunruh (talk) 18:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Frontline

If you had seen the discussion page you have got a better idea of what was going on. Regarding the publications of the Hindu group (Front line, The Hindu daily) contrarian views were not at all tolerated at any level . If you could see the articles which has been mentioned as "Poorly sourced" you can understand its tenure and the stature of Individuals who have made that. Regarding the substantiation of the claims predominantly a portal belonging to an advocacy group called ZNET is used.--Sahyadhri (talk) 07:03, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't change the fact that you need to discuss these things on the talk page of the article instead of revert warring. As you can see, your talk page contributions are still lacking. Cenarium ^Talk 10:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Voldemore and the rest

I note the sockpuppetry case has not been closed; is it still being worked on? Ironholds 10:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I've created the checkuser request, we'll see. Cenarium ^Talk 13:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Huggle Wars

I am well aware of the problem you mentioned on my talk page. Having myself received a level 3 warning from another Huggle user earlier today, I can say, however, that double-checking edits to avoid this problem will only compound it. What happens is that when two people revert an edit simultaneously, and one of them is not on the Huggle whitelist, the other one will do the revert, mistakenly reverting to the vandalized version. But this happens in such a way that the person doing the wrong revert had no time to react.

Maybe a Huggle upgrade is in order: one that shows no "updated" version of an article on the user's screen unless said user requests it.

Until that happens, I guess this is a problem we'll just have to live with. --Blanchardb-^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}-timed 16:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I have expressed my concern on Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback. Feel free to add to my comment. --Blanchardb-^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}-timed 17:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)