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March 2016

Ways to improve Product Sans

Hi, I'm JamesG5. Chlod, thanks for creating Product Sans!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Noting a couple of references on the Talk page, needs more added.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. JamesG5 (talk) 06:13, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

November 2019

Edward Jenner and Immunology

Hi Chlod,

Was your message concerning Edward Jenner? The changes were made because the practice of inoculation dates back to ancient China and Byzantium. In Jenner's time, there was not much understanding yet of bacteriology and immunology. The common belief to how they worked were spirtual and related to the Church.

Regards,
Ethical Content

Please don't Edit-war: Edward Jenner

Vaccinations were most effectively used in the 20th century for the eradication of disease. Edward Jenner lived until the start of the 19th century. Germ theory was developed in the late 19th century. The implication that bacteria and viruses cause disease was still unknown in Jenner's time. The only vaccine standardized in Jenner's time was the small-pox vaccine and Jenner contributed to this vaccine most. This was the first variant of the vaccine and also the first vaccine used widely in Western Europe. Most principles of immunology were developed after Jenner's time, including theories of humoral immunity, antibodies, and antigens. These contributions were made after thousands of hours of work by dozens of biologists. It is often misunderstood that a discovery or a theory is made by one person alone. I am sincerely doubtful if the accreditations within immunology are correct. It seems reasonable to assume references to immunology were not correctly given, concerning the time-frames not adding up.

December 2019

Your thread has been archived

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What is your criteria to remove content from La Luz del Mundo wikipage?

I notice 3 different editors doing the same exact thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YorkNewton (talkcontribs) 05:26, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Refill not working, could you fix it ?

Found you via userboxes, User:Zhaofeng_Li left the tool in a non-working condition, and is not available, this tool is a great time saver for a great number of wikipedians, it is broken only for en.wikipedia.org pages... I think this task would get much kudos. I will also try to find another recently online qualified wikipedian anyway, and try to avoid looking spammy.

References:
24.7.104.84 (talk) 04:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for not responding quickly. I'm currently busy with academics and other school-related activities. According to the village pump section you linked, the tool seems to be working as of late. I'll still take some time to look into the problem and try to understand what may have happened. Thank you for bringing this to light! Chlod (say hi) 13:11, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nickelodeon Polska

I removed this beacuse I've found this :

https://theloudhouse.fandom.com/wiki/Harmidom

It was copied from an another website. --102.103.9.29 (talk) 13:21, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification has been provided on your talk page. I took a while to respond. Sorry. Chlod (say hi) 13:51, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But Wikipedia does not allow to copy from an anoter website. --45.216.200.173 (talk) 12:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On December, I've not found this on Wikipedia.

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Nickelodeon (Poland)

On June 6, 2018, several episodes of The Loud House featuring Harold and Howard (mainly in Seasons 1 and 2) and Luna and Sam (Season 3) were banned due to the complaint submitted to the Polish National Broadcasting Council by Ordo Iuris about the LGBT themes presented in the series. However, the dub for the episodes is not censored, as Clyde's fathers are mentioned in other episodes

I think it's a copyright violated, not you ?

can you explain this sentence in another way?

Example :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koh-Lanta#Season_5_controversy --102.96.147.49 (talk) 16:46, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The other website copied from Wikipedia. Chlod (say hi!) 02:53, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's me I've copied from fandom this sentense. can you explain this sentence in another way? --197.253.235.167 (talk) 12:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can explain it in another way, but I don't think it has to be changed. If you want me to explain it differently so you can place it on the Fandom website, then I can't do that since it's your responsibility. Chlod (say hi!) 12:41, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Joel Berghult

Hi, I noticed you re-submitted Draft:Joel Berghult a couple of days ago, while I think I fixed the coatrack issue, there haven't really been any new sources added since it was most recently declined in January. I have just posted a review of the sources on the talk page to hopefully help the reviewer decide whether he passes WP:GNG. If you have any comments or anything to add please do! Ym2X (talk) 13:50, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ym2X, sure thing! I'll read the review in a moment and I'll see if I can contribute. Thanks for the heads up! Chlod (say hi!) 13:52, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Joel Berghult (April 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Praxidicae were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Praxidicae (talk) 17:55, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Welcome!

Hi I'm Typhoon2013, I see that you are new to the Wikiproject for Tropical cyclones and I just all want to say welcome! Any questions on regarding things or anything else just message me. And I see you a filo too, though. Have a good day and happy editing. Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Typhoon2013:, thank you for the warm welcome! Have a great day! Chlod (say hi!) 08:07, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
:) Typhoon2013 (talk) 11:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2020 Pacific typhoon season

The article uses pressures (hPa) and 10-minute winds exclusively from the Japan Meteorological Agency unless lacking a tropical depression designation. Please do not use other units and sources for it. 🐱💬 05:22, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Meow: Got it. There wasn't any guide on the standards for these articles (or at least I couldn't find one), so thanks for telling me which units and sources to use! Chlod (say hi!) 05:39, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As JMA is appointed as a Regional Specialized Meteorological Center, its data is the priority.

Hello

Hello Chlod, am kind of a new Wikipedia editor, but i have been here for 3 months now! But I would need your help, i want to create a Wikipedia page, but a "draft" to be working on it while researching to make the page unique and a brilliant one... So Pls I would be needing your help on the page building, so it could meet the standards of Wikipedia, since you know best then me! Pls hope to get a reply & also I would love to get your mail address to contact you.... Thanks a lot! Daniel vic (talk) 10:12, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Daniel vic: Hello! I'm willing to help improve whatever draft you're making (and you really should have given me a link), but I can only go as far as manual of style corrections and article structuring, since I'm a bit busy as of now. If you want to contact me, you can just go ahead and use my talk page, since it's easier to have correspondence here. Thanks, and hope to hear from you soon! Chlod (say hi!) 10:22, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I haven't started the page creation, but the page is all about a website (Music, News & Entertainment web) in Nigeria. I haven't done a comprehensive research on it, buh I believe one can edit a Wikipedia draft for as long as he/she wants before requesting approval, right? Daniel vic (talk) 12:07, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Daniel vic: Not exactly. Drafts that are left untouched for more than six months are deleted, since it means no one is interested enough in keeping the draft up. As for the website you're talking about, it will have to pass the Wikipedia general notability guideline, since the articles on Wikipedia have to be somewhat notable to have a Wikipedia page. Aside from that, you'll also need a lot of references that define what this website exactly is, and all of those references must be reliable sources and verifiable. Chlod (say hi!) 12:12, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, what does it takes to pass the Wikipedia general notability guideline?


I'll read it up! Buh I plan the project should start September! So we both can do research on it! Can I get your mail? Daniel vic (talk) 12:16, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel vic: Everything you need to know about the general notability guideline (GNG) is on the page for the GNG. I've already linked it above. And again, I think it's better to keep correspondence about the article here instead of on email. Chlod (say hi!) 12:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Last question sir, I wanna ask, when I started editing, I made use of a link (my favourite site, I always read news stories & trending things from) so when I add the link as reference it normally get removed, so I added many of the link, different sources for different pages & a Wikipedia report of spam was created by a bot, I didn't really know about spam, so finally I discovers and I didn't spam that link again, I talk with the not user and he closed the report! So my question now is, will the report that was created, even though its closed by the not, wouldn't it affect the website? And its also showing in their search result, am afraid I caused some damages. Daniel vic (talk) 08:07, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes you might want to put a website on Wikipedia that you use a lot. But as it turns out, there's a chance that a lot of people don't even know about said website. If you keep putting that same link on that page, you'll end up getting a warning for spam or for edit warring. It's good to note that before you add any external links to a article , it must be directly related to the article in question and notable as well. As for damages, I can't really be the judge of that unless the website owners themselves file a complaint. Chlod (say hi!) 08:14, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you very much! Chlod (say hi!) 01:11, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Chlod(It's a cute name),I think there is no problem with my deletion. Wikipedia should not record biased "alleged" content, because these content can be fabricated without any evidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.106.21.19 (talk)

Hi, 38.106.21.19! After reviewing the revert, there does seem to be a problem. Firstly, the edit is reliably sourced and doesn't warrant removal. As for "biased" and "alleged", Wikipedia permits due weight to the article, to present all sides possible and to keep a neutral point of view. The deletion you made seems to have removed this due weight, and as such can change the way that readers can perceive the article. I hope you understand. Chlod (say hi!) 15:49, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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A baklava for you!

Hi,

Thank you for helping me at CivicActions page! I am glad for that. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 16:02, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comrade-yutyo, no problem! Feel free to ask for help again next time. Chlod (say hi!) 16:10, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some Rosogollas for you

Some Rosogollas for you
Thanks a lot for informing me in discord... ❯❯❯   S A H A 15:37, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@ArnabSaha: No problem! Be careful next time. 😉 Chlod (say hi!) 15:43, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chlod

Hi, thanks for contributing to Wikipedia_talk:Template_index/User_talk_namespace. I like your username and hope it is short for something like Chlodowig. TSventon (talk) 12:06, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TSventon: Ah, this is the first time I have ever heard the term. Whoops. Glad you like my name, though. I appreciate it! Chlod (say hi!) 12:11, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

O'Donnell, TX

You are probably not aware, but all of the race-related links in US Census data all redirect to the same place, so are in effect overlinking. Also, the data by age are actually distribution data. Thanks for catching my typos, though. 66.25.223.117 (talk) 15:58, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@66.25.223.117: Ah, sorry about that. I didn't see that the links were actually redirects, since the tool I use to show redirects don't work in the diff viewer. Thanks for pointing that out, though. Chlod (say hi!) 16:03, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A cookie for you

Sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 06:14, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, just a quick hint: Adding scripts to Wikipedia:User scripts/List makes them more findable for both users who are looking for the functionality the scripts provide and other developers, preventing them from writing code for what already exists. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:13, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@1234qwer1234qwer4: Yeah, I did think about that, but I chickened out midway and ended up not listing it on that page. Haha. Chlod (say hi!) 20:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I could do it for you if you want. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:32, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nah, it's fine. I'll put them in once I feel like it, I guess. Chlod (say hi!) 20:34, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Get LOL'D!

Just wanted to say that I need that trout thing, how can I get it on my talk page please I want it... Hope you see this and have a nice day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scuraball (talkcontribs) 09:36, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Scuraball: It's the {{Wikipedians open to trout slapping}} template. Just place it anywhere you want at the top of your talk page before any level 2 heading with {{Wikipedians open to trout slapping}} (or by inserting the template using VisualEditor with its name.) Have fun, and welcome to Wikipedia! Chlod (say hi!) 09:54, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2020 Pacific typhoon season

Hi my friend! Can you update the Seasonal Forecast? I'm confused about counting, thank you my friend! Jangmi20 (talk) 08:07, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jangmi20:  Done! I've also put the tally on the talk page to mitigate confusion. --Chlod (say hi!) 08:48, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ok thank you very much my friend! :) Jangmi20 (talk) 09:10, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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ITN recognition for Typhoon Vamco (2020)

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A barnstar for you!

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This is an award for you great contributions to protecting and reverting attacks of vandalism on Wikipedia. HurricaneEdgar 11:42, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A goat for you!

For all your work on storm and cyclone related articles!

— Yours, Berrely • TalkContribs 13:59, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry as i see u was active in 50 min ago i didnt email it

Hi A question which is important

Is apropriate to create a hashtag memory article in wikipedia?(contian populars in social network/trends) Im working in another version of wiki

I asked this of you and ask of others too Cus i didnt get it in laws of wiki and Everyone has his/her option So i need to reach an agreement Thx bro Pls check it fast and if you know a source tell me about it Im await you guy Bigbang2024 (talk) 03:29, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bigbang2024! Articles about social media hashtags are usually not given their own articles, since they are not notable enough for one. For an article to be created, the article...
There are other basic policies when writing articles, but those should get you started. If you want to learn more about each policy, simply click on the link to go to its related explanation page. Seeing that you're a new user, I also recommend visiting Help:Introduction to find your way around Wikipedia, or Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure for a more interactive experience. Happy editing, and welcome to Wikipedia! Chlod (say hi!) 03:37, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thx bro Knightherkol Was my first attempt in wiki(about 9 year ago) This article is created and im against it i know is against wiki laws but as u may know People always have biased options and in other wikiprojects(like fa wiki) This kind of acts are Terrible cus of its small union Thx bro for your friendly answer Bigbang2024 (talk) 03:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE 173.90.240.241 (talk) 16:07, 16 November 2020 (UTC) You have not been "trouted" but I need help. The 2020 Atlantic hurricane season is not letting me edit it and I don't know how.[reply]

Destroyeraa has already replied on your talk page about this, so I'll step back. Chlod (say hi!) 17:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I am following instructions to say hi. I try to follow instructions. But then sometimes instructions are unclear, so I conduct a thorough cost-benefit analysis, consult my Ethics Review Board (it is a 2x4, but it is very ethical), and then I need to conduct an experiment based on my own insatiable curiosity. I apologize for editing the article about youtube-dl, I wanted to see if anyone was paying attention. It brings me comfort to know that you are. 209.94.144.13 (talk) 08:50, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't fully understand, but yes, Wikipedia editors observe a lot of pages on Wikipedia, as well as recently changed pages. We do this to avoid vandalism on pages. If you're doing research on Wikipedia, please note that Wikipedia is not a laboratory, and that editing tests are unwelcome on most pages, excluding your sandbox. Chlod (say hi!) 08:54, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You definitely understood enough, some of that was a joke. I wanted to prompt the "days since latest release" to update (it said November 11th was 11 days ago), and there was no "Purge Cache" button. I decided to add a "probably harmless" tracer, look at the edit history, and then revert my own change. The fact that it was reverted in 2 minutes flat helps to boost my faith in Wikipedia. I now regret including a link, I just remembered that Wikipedia (and at least one sister project) keep a graph of which articles are linked, and keeping that database consistent and free of crap is deeply important to me. That kind of "business logic" is a nightmare to implement. 209.94.144.13 (talk) 09:19, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, you must have been looking for the purge option. The option to purge a page can be enabled by registered users, but for logged out users, you have to append a ?action=purge to the URL in order to force a purge, which should update all time-based data on the page. As for the graph of linked articles that you mentioned, that's the "What links here" link on the left side of the screen (for PC browsers), under "Tools". Chlod (say hi!) 09:24, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bit late, but...

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Sources needed for Days of the Year pages

I see you recently accepted a pending change to February 19 that did not include a direct source.

You're probably not aware of this change, but Days of the Year pages are no longer exempt from WP:V and direct sources are required for additions. For details see the edit notice on that page, the content guideline and/or the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide.

All new additions to the DOY pages without references are now being either reverted on-sight or in some cases where the patroller is especially motivated, immediately sourced. I've gone ahead and backed this edit out.

All the pages in the Days of the Year project have had pending changes protection turned on to prevent vandalism and further addition of entries without direct sources. As a pending changes patroller, it's not required but it sure would be helpful if you didn't accept additions to day of year pages where no direct source has been provided on that day of year page. The burden to provide sources for additions to these pages is on the editor who adds or restores material to these pages.

Thank you and please keep up your good work! Toddst1 (talk) 00:05, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddst1: Got it. You were right, I wasn't aware of this. Thank you for telling me! Chlod (say hi!) 00:30, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: tricking me with a fake clock D: ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 00:12, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:1.129.107.156

Twas not I. I would only edit a page etc if I had logged in - so I can't help you with that edit, I'm sorry. No need to reply and thanks for what you do. Michael MichaelBurl 23:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Burlace (talkcontribs)

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ITN recognition for Typhoon Goni (2020)

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Merry Christmas!

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Hi, Chlod! I'd like to take this opportunity to wish you a merry holiday season and a (hopefully) happy new year! Thanks for working with me on RedWarn! I look forward to working with you even more! ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 02:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Chlod!

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Happy New Year, Chlod!

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Happy new year and thanks!

Happy new year and thanks!
Hope you will have a great New Year, and many thanks for supporting my proposal over at the Community Wishlist Survey on Meta. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 🎄Happy Holidays!⛄ 01:50, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE 168.149.246.80 (talk) 16:22, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I guess. Chlod (topcontribs) 16:23, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
interesting. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:24, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Good luck on your exams!

~ Destroyer🌀🌀 16:55, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
I am amazed on how quickly you included the solution for gracefully supporting the DS alerts template. You have made using WP:RW much more useful than it already was. Thank you. Walrus Ji (talk) 19:03, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Walrus Ji: Thank you for the barnstar! Just doing my job of making Wikipedia a better place. ;) Chlod (topcontribs) 19:11, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate your truly helpful spirit. My best wishes for your exams. --Walrus Ji (talk) 19:27, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of WikiTea for you!

Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia even though you’re experiencing mental health issues. Hope this tea helps make your day a little brighter!DachshundLover82 (talk) 16:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also I think we’ve gotten along well, I just wanted to give you tea and biscuits. :)DachshundLover82 (talk) 16:47, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@DachshundLover82: Thank you for the tea and biscuits! I'm looking forward to working with you more on the 2021 Pacific typhoon season article. Hope you have a great day! Chlod (topcontribs) 16:52, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chlod (talk · contribs), your welcome, hope you have a great day too!DachshundLover82 (talk)

Some bubble tea for you!

Hi! I don't know exactly what's going on in your life, but I hope you're doing okay. Here's some nice Boba Tea for you! Hopefully it'll make you feel better. Remember that we're all here for you. You will get through this. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 17:15, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Whaaa?

You cant tell me what to do on my talk page! (not threatening, pretend i am in a very sad tone), its my only article i cant remove, OR OTHERS!  :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by BCNY2011 (talkcontribs) 19:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BCNY2011: Stop. Your continued arrogance and refusal to listen to other users is unacceptable. Get off our talk pages. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 19:26, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@BCNY2011: Unfortunately, you do not own your talk page and it's bad behavior to tell me that I can't edit it. Talk pages are highly necessary for editor discussion on Wikipedia. Instead of complaining, please take comments on your talk page to heart and learn to better yourself with the comments of other users. Chlod (topcontribs) 19:27, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Using rollback

Regarding RedWarn - you might want to request rollback permissions over at WP:RFP/R, then, once successful, changing RedWarn's rollback method in your preferences from "rollback-like" to "rollback". It does make a slight speed difference, which may be convenient for your counter-vandalism efforts. ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 07:27, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sportzpikachu: Yes. Chlod (topcontribs) 07:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback granted

Hi Chlod. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war.
  • If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
  • Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Mz7 (talk) 04:58, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: apply for rollback already ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 03:49, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sportzpikachu: r u happy now Chlod (topcontribs) 06:38, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Chlod: yes ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 07:12, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Getting reverted as vandalism

Heya! Just a note, you have reverted my edit at Redwarn's talk page, but in fact, if you read the edit summary, one of the member of the dev team, User:sportzpikachu have asked me to do it. If you would like, I can provide screenshots of the conversation, or you can check with that user. Thank you! ThatIPEditor (talk) 01:08, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ThatIPEditor: I know. Sportz never received permission from the entire team to run this test, and did it at their own volition. I even told them not to do it multiple times, with his excuse being "WP:IAR". I appreciate your cooperation, but do not proceed with this test. Thanks. Chlod (topcontribs) 01:11, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Sounds good. Of course, I did not know this. Just don't want to have issues later on because of this. Thank you! ThatIPEditor (talk) 01:11, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. I didn't issue a warning for that exact reason. Hope you have a good day! Chlod (topcontribs) 01:13, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: scaring users 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:11, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@1234qwer1234qwer4: PepeHands Chlod (topcontribs) 13:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Tropical Storm Dujuan (2021)

Hi Chlod! Can all the Information be fixed here? because I can't edit now because I'm busy working, Thank you very much. Shadzarie (talk) 02:32, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Shadzarie: Sure thing! Chlod (topcontribs) 02:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fatalities concerning 2021 Western Pacific Typhoon Season

Hello, and I am here to notify that the fatality count has gone up to 4 again. I think somebody changed it back, so do they have a reliable source? 2003 LN6 (talk) 17:43, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@2003 LN6: Definitely. They linked to a reliable source when updating. There's a replacement of the reference in diff 1008571434. Chlod (topcontribs) 22:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We don't add content like that by sourcing to a self published statement and a tweet. That is a huge breach of WP:BLP. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:12, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This railway has been renamed: Doon Valley Railway.

I am a Director of the company and you can find my credentials at Ayrshire Railway Preservation Group in Companies House. Catriona Thom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.219.60 (talk) 12:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Replied to on user talk page. Chlod (topcontribs) 12:37, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Tropical Storm Dujuan's Damage Total

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Hi Chlod, sorry if I disrupt your wikibreak. I reverted your edits on Tropical Storm Dujuan since we consider AON as a reliable source for tropical cyclone damage totals. Though as you said the NDRRMC is a very reliable source, we sometimes use AON over government sources. For example the National Centers for Environmental Information has a database with "storm events" that often include tropical cyclones. The NCEI says that Tropical Storm Beta of last year caused only caused a few million dollars in damage. Though, we use AON's estimate which shows $400 million in damage. It is true that NCEI doesn’t include all data. However, it shows that we don’t always use government sources. Again, AON has been used a reliable source for tropical cyclone damage. Thanks for understanding!DachshundLover82 (talk) 17:57, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@DachshundLover82: I never said that Aon was unreliable. I only said that the NDRRMC was a better source over Aon in the lead and infobox. Does Aon's numbers decide the retirement of a storm? Are their numbers grounded on actual data and statistics taken from those actuall affected? If the answer is a clear and definite no, such is the case here, where a reliable on-site source is available, then we use that source. The NCEI "doesn't include all data", as you said yourself, however this is not the NCEI. There is no argument as to why we're supposed to use the data of an insurance company (which estimates insurance losses, not actual damages) over the local disaster agency, unless you're able to prove to me and other editors that the data provided by the NDRRMC is unreliable. Chlod (topcontribs) 23:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Chlod:, no company decides the retirement of a storm other than the naming agencies. However, AON's numbers are based on actual data and statistics they report. I would choose the highest estimate or try to find a way to include both at the same time. Such as putting a damagespre in the Infobox, and maybe staying both totals.DachshundLover82 (talk) 23:10, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@DachshundLover82: Can you point me to an Aon document which shows a breakdown of information collected from the affected regions which show such "data and statistics"? Or a document which details what they did in order to collect the data they have? In other words, can you prove the verifiability of the claim that damages reached US$10 million? Also, you do know that using "the highest estimate" isn't what we do on Wikipedia, right? We're supposed to use whatever source is best. Not whichever one is highest. Such selective bias can only lead to the misinterpretation of the data presented itself. Chlod (topcontribs) 23:17, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And no, saying that Aon is used in articles does not automatically make it a better and more verifiable source than the NDRRMC (for this storm, at least). That's not how verifiability works. Chlod (topcontribs) 23:19, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
AON is currently going under website updates so most of the Global Catastrophe recaps are temporarily unavailable, but if you read the short descriptions under each catastrophe, you would see it considers damaged homes and agricultural damages. If you can see NDRRMC only includes infrastructure and agricultural damage and not total economic losses. We use AON for this, so I would considered AON a better source in this situation. Look at other storms that also use this source.DachshundLover82 (talk) 23:24, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I know we don’t use the highest estimate on Wikipedia. However, AON is a reliable source and a trusted estimate in our WikiProject. So verifiability doesn’t apply here.DachshundLover82 (talk) 23:27, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
AON is used in Typhoon Goni's and Vamco's article.DachshundLover82 (talk) 23:32, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@DachshundLover82: I'm perfectly aware that Aon is a reliable source for this project. Again, I'm talking about the quality of the source. Your examples of Goni and Vamco are invalid, as both use a sum of the affected countries and the NDRRMC's data for the infobox and lead. Not Aon. Because I need to say again: Aon does insurance loss estimates, not actual loss from damages. If you think that "insurance loss" fits the definition of "damages" more than "agricultural and infrastructural damage", then there's something clearly wrong there. Chlod (topcontribs) 23:40, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I’ve made it so that both estimates are taken into consideration in the infobox. I think that should settle this discussion.DachshundLover82 (talk) 00:08, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@DachshundLover82: I have to disagree. That's very much not how we write storm articles since you have to consider the implications of the data you're presenting, and I'm uncomfortable with the usage of Aon over a local agency for the purposes I keep repeating above again and again. Citing your previous examples of Goni and Vamco, both do not use Aon in the lead and infobox. You're exaggerating the damage count by presenting the numbers this way. The WPTC style guide doesn't even specify that two sources for damages are allowed in the lead. So I'll simply apply a standard Wikipedia-based approach: Would an average reader benefit from seeing rough estimates instead of actual data? We write articles, not comprehensive collections of data and thus, it is unreasonable to include both in the lead — what is supposed to be a succint and straightforward section. Chlod (topcontribs) 00:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I removed one of them from the lead to make it easier. There you go!DachshundLover82 (talk) 02:29, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@DachshundLover82: And reintroduced the improper source. Wow. I've restored the previous version, since it respects the WPTC style guide, follows the usual format of other storm articles, and also uses a better source - all of which are policies and guidelines grounded on community consensus. I'm not in the mood to deal with an edit war right now, so I suggest that you don't restore the content without proper consensus from Talk:Tropical Storm Dujuan (2021) or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones. Chlod (topcontribs) 02:35, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That’s it, I’m done with this edit war! I worked hard on the article days before it hit the PH and it seems like my work means nothing to you. Still have a nice day though.DachshundLover82 (talk) 02:57, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Majority of the preparations and impact were written by me though, and the meteorological history was mostly copied from the 2021 Pacific typhoon season article, which was also written by me. This whole discussion revolves around less than 100 bytes of changes. When did I ever say that all of "[your] work" means nothing? Calm down. Chlod (topcontribs) 03:06, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are acting very sarcastic and rude. AON is not an improper source. Plus, most of the early works were written by me. Most of that info is gone now. At this point, I doubt Dujuan will ever make it to GA status. Please stop making it seem like I’m being rude. Being sarcastic wont help this situation.DachshundLover82 (talk) 03:22, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also, not that it’s any of my business, but why do you have a wikibreak template on my user page when your editing at the moment?DachshundLover82 (talk) 03:27, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@DachshundLover82: The perceived "rudeness" is only an application of the Golden Rule. Not to mention that I'm not supposed to be on Wikipedia, as you've observed, because I'm clearly not in the mood to edit, but given the talk page message, I spared some time for this, which I don't regret as it's better to deal with this now than later on in the season. And now you're dragging this thing on longer than it should, which is making me increasingly frustrated and tired. Now, comparing the page in its infancy to the current version, not all of the "info is gone now". In fact, not much was there to begin with. The edits of which you put in the most bytes into were all from when the storm was still a depression, and were mostly based or copied from the original meteorological history of the 2021 Pacific typhoon season article, which I had been updating at the time. The "preparations and impact" stemmed from the original bits left over from the season article, but I expanded it after Shadzarie had requested me to - and after seeing that the storm had a bit of possibility that it would be notable enough. 60% of the prose in the article was originally written by me. If I had to put it bluntly: your earlier edits are still there, but they are currently shrouded by the newly-added content. Which is supposed to happen, since no one owns an article and anyone is free to improve it at their own discretion. And like I keep saying again and again, the Aon is not an unreliable source, but it is an improper one for the given context. You have to recognize that some sources take higher priority than others, much like how JMA pressures and movement are used contrary to the JTWC's. If you don't think that the page will never reach GA, go ahead and submit it so we can see if that's really the case or just an opinion. Now if you're calling me out for being "rude", then apologies from brushing off that way, but I am seriously disinterested to keep having to repeatedly cite Wikipedia policies and guidelines, former articles, style guides, and even more pages and documents that clearly indicate that the edits you made use an improper (i.e. not the right one, not meaning unreliable as they're completely different definitions) source for the article. Especially after you restore the incorrect version, brand it as a "fix", and then make this passive-aggressive edit on my talk page. Chlod (top • contribs) 03:49, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is going to be the last thing I’ll write on this since this is dragging forever. There was nothing wrong with the AON source, you were the only one to really have a problem with it. So technically you dragged this on longer than it had to be, not me. I may have exaggerated a bit with the article, obviously nobody owns an article. Next, why would I submit an incomplete article as a GA after learning from my past mishaps. Sorry if I was being a little hostile earlier but this debate is giving me a headache. Well just have to rely on the input of other editors now.DachshundLover82 (talk) 04:34, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

A Toblerone for you

Though we have had disagreements in the recent weeks, you are still an amazing editor. I hope we can continue working together improve the 2021 Pacific typhoon season :) DachshundLover82 (talk) 16:18, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your reversion of my edit about notable Alumna Livia Krisandova in the page about AAU

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Dear Sir,

You have reverted my edit about notable Alumna Livia Krisandova in the page about AAU (Anglo-American University)

In the context of this page, the section entitled 'Notable Alumni' is clearly meant to highlight achievements that can be generally regarded as positive or notable contributions of certain Alumni of this university. Such information about these accomplishments should be, first and foremost, referring to two types of such actions. First, highlighting a specific and remarkable achievement that makes someone notable and/or secondly, an up-do-date record about someone's career success that makes such a person worthy of mentioning.

Unfortunately, the current edit about a young lady called Livia Krisandova, which was made in 2020, and informs about her past employment in Cambridge Analytica (a company that had been dissolved in 2018) was clearly submitted by someone who, out of spite, wished to harm this young lady's reputation in public by highlighting her former career affiliation with Cambridge Analytica, a company that received a gargantuan wave of negative publicity.

Moreover, the current edit in question was made in 2020 in present tense, suggesting the present and continuous nature of such information, which was clearly not accurate at the time of that edit, not to mention that Cambridge Analytica had been dissolved in 2018 - that is two years prior to this edit. This, again, I makes such edit suspiciously obsolete in its informative nature, and very likely aimed, in truth, to diminish further this tung lady's reputation rather than highlighting her real and up-to-date accomplishments from neutral POV, as it should have been done, and as I have attempted to do do in my re-edits.

For these reasons, I have suggested and written down a new record to replace the previous edit(s), which was undoubtedly composed from a negative POV - a non balanced contribution that should be regarded as a violation of wikipedia rules, and should have been replaced with a content of significantly more balanced information or removed altogether.

Last but not least, the sources cited in this current and negative POV edit from 2020 all point out, in fact, to one and only source - a site opened to public and user contributions with no system of verification of submitted information, and therefore it should not be regarded as a reliable source for wikipedia per se. Besides, wikipedia should not serve as a battleground for persons, using it to deliberatively diminish someone's reputation out of spite or, possibly, other personal reasons.

Taken this altogether, I would kindly ask you to consider my request to replace the current edit (which is obsolete, not up-to-date, written from negative POV, aimed to make only negative associations, grounded in unreliable sources) with my suggested edit(s) with relevant sources. Alternatively, I would also recommend removing the current edit from 2020, taking out all the text with unreliable sources, and replacing it with plain and simple information:

Livia Krisandova - London-based Slovakian accomplished political consultant and campaign manager, AAU International Relations graduate (2012).

Thank you very much for considering my request! Martin M1988 (talk) 13:25, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Martin! Thanks for taking the time to reach out. Here on Wikipedia, we have a few core policies that determine what content is acceptable, which isn't, and how to remove such content. Let me introduce one of those policies: the policy on the neutral point of view.
On Wikipedia, we take into consideration every single notable detail as long as it is backed by a reliable source, verifiable, and adds due weight to the article. Let's take into consideration the exact line that you're changing in the article:
  • Lívia Krišandová - SCL Group and Cambridge Analytica project leader and executive manager, AAU International Relations graduate (2012)

Although "outdated" (in your own words), we can verify that this actually happened with a reliable source (albeit not with the currently-existing source, but with one I just recently replaced it with). Moreover, their position in the project (project leader and executive manager) is definitely notable. You yourself admitted that this happened when you mentioned "her former career affiliation with Cambridge Analytica". Because it fits the criteria of what should be on Wikipedia, it deserves to stay on Wikipedia. Simply being outdated is not a reason to remove it, since it's much more beneficial to just add "former". The problem is: Cambridge Analytics is now defunct, so "former" is no longer needed. Because Cambridge Analytics is defunct, we can simply say that they were the project leader up until the company's dissolution – a sort of "captain who sunk with their ship".

Now, how about removing it? Content is removed from articles if the edit was made in bad faith, if the edit violates a Wikipedia policy or guideline, or if the edit does not improve or maintain Wikipedia. Of all the criteria stated previously (which is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Wikipedia's hundreds of pages about policy), this statement does not violate any. For those reasons, we have to keep the details stated above. Content on Wikipedia like this, whether the person who added it was or was not in favor of the subject or not, should not be removed if it is factual and is important in learning more about the subject itself. Whether or not it ruins her reputation, it happened, it can be sourced, the source is verifiable, and thus it cannot be removed for the reason of so-called "bad PR". Attempting to do so would be censorship of content, which goes against Wikipedia policy and guidelines.
So how about the sentence you gave. Would it fit the guidelines I've referenced above? Let's do a quick check.
  • Livia Krisandova - London-based Slovakian accomplished political consultant and campaign manager, AAU International Relations graduate (2012).
"London-based Slovakian" is not notable. Being London-based is not a reason to be put on Wikipedia, nor is being Slovakian. Simply existing is not a reason to be put on Wikipedia. "political consultant and campaign manager" is not notable. If I search for a political consultant and campaign manager in London, will I get Krišandová as a notable result? The answer is no. So we'll have to scrap that too. Lastly, calling someone "accomplished" on Wikipedia without a reference to back it up is disallowed. This is called puffery, and you'll get editors mad if you try to puff a subject up. Since the sentence you gave does not make the subject qualify for notability, they can't even be in the list at all, since list items require notability too.
Given all of the above, the current line cannot be removed, and the line you wish to add cannot be added. Doing either would cause issues and is a likely breach of the Wikipedia policy. Your final option now is to find a consensus from other editors on whether or not to accept your changes - something you can do on Talk:Anglo-American University, however, I doubt that they'll say something different to what I've said.
Lastly, I'm slightly concerned by your persistent interest in Krišandová's public image. If you happen to be paid to edit (either by the AAU or Krišandová herself), you are required to disclose this due to Wikipedia's Terms of Service. If you are not paid, but share close relations with the AAU or Krišandová, I suggest that you avoid conflict-of-interest editing as this can lead to even more scrutiny on the edits you make due to the possibility of bias in neutrality. I hope this makes things clearer. Chlod (topcontribs) 14:36, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear 'Chlod',

Let me thank you for taking time to react on my post on your talk page and explaining me further some of wikipedia's editorial rules, regulations and your decisions regarding your reverted edits about Livia Krisandova in AAU's page. First of all, let me state that I am not paid to do PR for either side you have mentioned, and I am not in the COI, as it is described in wikipedia policy.

My sole concern is that the original, the past versions and, unfortunately, even the current edit have not been fair, just, accurate, proportional in terms of its informative content and in accordance with wikipedia's standards - plus, avoiding an application of double standards. I do not wish to disrespect you or other editors and I do not intend dipping my hands, so to speak, in a futile ping-pong editing, so I will rather present my following arguments to you in a rather gentlemanly debate over this subject:

Objection n. 1) The current edit is disproportionate and oozes 'cherry picking'

Working for any of London's High Street PR consultancy agencies within the upper ranks (project managers certainly fulfill such criteria) is undoubtedly a reason to be included as a notable graduate, especially so in the case of some little, private and relatively unknown university. In this context, it is certainly fitting to mention Livia Krisandova's past positions at Cambridge Analytica, but it would be appropriate to mention her next affiliation with a well-known company Chelgate as a client services manager to provide the reader with full and complete account, instead of a fragment, as it stands now, which tends only to feature her past work for CA, thus highlighting only something with arguably negative connotations, which is, quite frankly, a very selective approach how to represent a character or rather, as it is in this case, to assassinate this character.

Objection n. 2)

My addition of 'Slovak/Slovakian' is relevant and should be included

The very page and its section feature two other notable alumni, Klara Polackova and Oz Karahan, describing them as 'Czech' and 'Cypriot' respectively, and it seems to be fit for wikipedia, and therefore the same standard should be applied in case of Livia Krisandova, adding 'Slovak/Slovakian' to the edit, like here, taken directly from AAU's page on wikipedia:

'Klára Poláčková - The first Czech woman to climb Mount Everest.[19]Alexandra Udženija - Deputy Leader of the Civic Democratic Party (2014–present).[20][21]Oz Karahan - Cypriot political activist, President of the Union of Cypriots.[22]'

Moreover, 'Slovak' is even more relevant in this case because, to my knowledge, there are certainly not hundreds or thousands of Slovak women, originally graduating in Prague, and making it into the upper career ranks of the Hight Street London PR consultancy agencies like Chelgate has been or Cambridge Analytica, in its heyday, had been. Quite a feat, If I may say so, a feat worthy of emphasising one's nationality, even more so if someone is from a small Central European country.

Not to mention the fact that wikipedia is full examples when a person is partially characterised by being English, Spanish or American and so forth and so on. Like here, for instance, in a case of David Beckham:

'(...) is an English former professional footballer, the current president & co-owner of Inter Miami CF and co-owner of Salford City.[6] He played for Manchester United, Preston North End, Real Madrid, Milan, LA Galaxy, Paris Saint-Germain and the England national team, for which he held the appearance record for an outfield player until 2016.'

Objection n. 3) The current edit, referring to her affiliation with Cambridge Analytica without a word 'former' or the use of past tense diverges from wikipedia's standards and tends to be (deliberately) a misinformation or misleading in its incompleteness.

Her Cambridge Analytica career should be clearly framed by either a use of the a word 'former' or by suing past tense e.g 'worked' as it has been standard on wikipedia and is widely used, for instance in case of another CA's former employee, Brittany Kaiser, as it can be seen here, if we wish to stay in the waters of Cambridge Analytica:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany_Kaiser

Venturing outside of CA's realm, the use of past tense (played) or 'former' can also nicely illustrated by wikipedia's page about David Beckham:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Beckham

It should be fair and just to use the same way of referring to past career affiliations in case of Livia Krisandova too, if such a standard could be and can be applied in case of Brittany Kaiser, David Beckham or others.

Objection n. 4) Isolating her Cambridge Analytica career past as the only reason for her being notable is not accurate and grounded in questionable evidence.

In this case, leaving the current edit only with CA's career records has very questionable encyclopaedic purpose, as most of these mentions on Internet, including the use of newspapers articles, you have recently used as citations from the original edits, are largely based on the leaked email correspondence, published by former CA employee Brittany Kaiser.

So, one can argue that these mentions are leaning more towards notoriety rather than notability in case of Livia Krisandova, as such a leak and its contents published by Kaiser, can be, again, very selective, purposeful, possibly bias, and therefore very disproportionate as to CA's work in general and, more importantly, Livia Krisandova's full career picture to avoid quite evident attempt to stigmatise her, which was, undeniably, a focus of the original edits added evidently in bad faith, as it can be seen in the history of edits of AAU's page. You yourself mentioned a case of mandatory disclosure if someone is paid or in COI, making edits. What if someone got paid to make the original edits with such an obvious negative connotation (please, see the history) - a wilfulness to cause detriment. If I am not mistaken, a clear violation of wikipedia rules.

All in all, if her career is to be mentioned as notable, which arguably in the context of AAU's page has been, later (2018-->) affiliation with Chelgate as a client services manager should be mentioned as well. Plus, it is not standard on wikipedia to isolate one moment in someone's career and discard the rest, especially when such a career as a whole fits into a specific context of being notable as a person, a graduate, Slovak woman. Naturally, an example of Livia Krisandova through and through.

Objection n. 5) Putting an emphasis exclusively on her Cambridge Analytica career past would be misrepresentation of facts.

As it was discussed earlier, the level of her notoriety and number of mentions is stemming from Brittany Kaiser's email leaks, but, in reality, as it can be verified in public records, Livia Krisandova has never been a person with significant control, a director or a managing partner. This being the case, encyclopaedia should not be using subjective, ideologically infused or speculative pieces as a basis for any records, and even less so in a case of living people.

Objection n.6)

I have a certain suspicion, judging by the edit made by AAU's editor Jdcooper, taking his personal wikipedia page into context, that his Liberal views and political alignment may have been a reason why he did not insisted on providing an edit in accordance with wider wikipedia standards, as I have argued, and decided to leave there a fragment, which is rather weird incomplete, disproportionate and with underlying negative connotation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jdcooper&action=view

Be this as it may, I believe that, the edit should not be removed and CA's part should remain there, but to make it well-balanced, accurate and in accordance with wikipedia standards used elsewhere, it should be adjusted into the following form:

1) Adding the word 'former' or framing Livia Krisandova's career at Cambridge Analytica by the use of past tense and or an exact time period. It is standardised and widely used on wikipedia and should be used in her record too.

2) Adding 'Slovak' / 'Slovakian' to emphasise her nationality - an important component in the context of her notability. It is standardised and widely used on wikipedia and should be used in her record as well.

3) Adding her next career position, as a client services manager at Chelgate, as an ongoing part of her career, no less important in terms of being notable in the context of AAU's notable graduates section.

4) I agree with you, a word 'accomplished' doest not need to be there and my intention was not to engage in puffery, but it was merely a rhetorical figure - a linguistic embellishment in the tone of its section in the page, to put it differently. Besides, being notable often signals that one must be accomplished to be perceived as a notable person.

I sincerely believe that adjusting this edit in accordance with wikipedia's standards would also avoid an application of double-standards in case of this wikipedia rules and policies regarding this record about Livia Krisandova.

Thank you very much for the consideration of my request.

Martin M1988 (talk) 17:33, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Martin, I've taken into consideration your recommendations and have applied only the first. You keep mentioning "rules and policies" without actually presenting to me any rule or policy backing up your claims. I have no choice but to assume that you haven't even tried reading them. Working in a famous company does not guarantee notability. Notability of a person is grounded in the general notability guideline. Simply working at Chelgate as a "client services manager" (not even CEO or similar, which would have been a more noteworthy position) does not guarantee notability. To emphasize, notability requires recognition from reliable and independent sources, of which you have provided zero. Her position in Cambridge Analytics, whatever method it was discovered, has been reported on by multiple sources which have been considered as generally reliable by community discussion on Wikipedia. If I were to search for Livia Krisandova's current position, will I find such sources? No, I will not. I know because I tried and I got two results from Google, of which both are primary sources and are therefore avoided. For this reason, your proposal (3) is denied. Your proposal (2) is denied for similar although not the same reasons: There is no source stating Krisandova's nationality. The fact that you are aware of this fact but the greater internet does not only feeds to my suspicion of conflict-of-interest, especially given your unyielding enthusiasm in trying to improve some person's trivial mention on a Wikipedia page. Lastly, your proposal (4) is denied for still being puffery. Trying to embellish an article's content is not encyclopedic. We are an encyclopedia, not a resume.
Unless you're able to prove to me that your other suggestions are grounded on Wikipedia policy (which I've provided you with a handy box below so that you may learn them), then you are advised not to reinsert the content you added previously.
A quick read into civility will also teach you about multiple Arbitration Committee resolutions on casting asperions. I'd like you to take this as a warning: Do not accuse Jdcooper of editing with bias due to so-called "Liberal views and political alignment" without proper evidence. Casting aspersions, which include accusing an editor without evidence, is against policy, and proceeding to do so will get you blocked from editing. Chlod (top • contribs) 18:12, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Looking into it deeper and I also fail to find any mention of Krisandova even being a student of the AAU. Perhaps this entry in the list should be removed entirely. Chlod (top • contribs) 18:14, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Chlod, that's exactly what I was about to suggest. Standard rule-of-thumb for inclusion on a "Notable alumni" list is whether there's an article about them in the first place. This person is not notable just for working at a famous company, including Cambridge Analytica. And it seems somehow has gone ahead and removed her, so problem solved! Jdcooper (talk) 22:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Problem solved! Nothing left to discuss here. Chlod (top • contribs) 02:08, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

A brownie for you!

here ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 01:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Chlod (top • contribs) 01:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Chlod: I saw your user page and hope you are doing well! If you have any problems you can reach out to me any time! ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 03:15, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Sportzpikachu: Thanks for your concern. It means a lot to me. Chlod (top • contribs) 03:42, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kind Words (video game) has been accepted

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Barn star for you.

What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
This is for the things we discussed off-wiki. I admitted that I am really careless for the past two months, which can be explained by stress I have when I'm in college as well as my duties with elevated privileges I have. I own up to all of these mistakes and will strive to further improvement. MarioJump83! 05:05, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fearless (Taylor's Version)

Hi, I understand that changing what I did causes a DISPLAYTITLE error, but here's another issue: There are now the inverted commas under the chronology, which shouldn't be there as per standard album infobox formats. I was wondering if there is any way to circumvent this, if what I did causes the error instead? Thanks! Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 14:28, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nahnah4: Hello! I'm currently looking at how the italic titles are implemented in the infobox in order to find a solution to this. I'll get back to you in a bit if I find something. Chlod (top • contribs) 14:34, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Nahnah4:  Resolved with Special:Diff/1016511123. Thanks for your patience! Chlod (top • contribs) 15:32, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Appreciate it. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 18:01, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Thanks for helping with the image of Panic attack! Yitz (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Yitzilitt: Thank you for the barnstar, Yitz! Chlod (top • contribs) 15:41, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BEHOLD!

Hey, talk page stalkers. Just wanted to say that User:Chlod/Tools/Article Randomizer is now a thing and you can visit it at https://wiki.chlod.net/random/ga or https://wiki.chlod.net/random/fa. Unluckily, I don't track IP addresses, so your privacy policy is this: I don't track you, period. Now go have fun. Chlod (top • contribs) 03:11, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Surigae

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


We don’t put Severe tropical Storm in article titles.DachshundLover82 (talk) 20:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@DachshundLover82: WP:SOFIXIT. Chlod (top • contribs) 20:53, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can’t since I’m not a page mover, moving it only leaves a redirect. I just came to leave you that info.DachshundLover82 (talk) 20:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Then say that in the first place. Chlod (top • contribs) 20:56, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
When you make an edit request, you say what you want to be done, not leave some message on my talk page that the only thing I would be able to respond to would be "okay". Chlod (top • contribs) 20:56, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nvm redirect was from another name.DachshundLover82 (talk) 20:56, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I’d assume you knew that since you always know about policies and things like that.DachshundLover82 (talk) 20:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@DachshundLover82: Surprise, surprise, I don't. I'm a counter-vandalism editor, not a content creator. Chlod (top • contribs) 21:03, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the say that in the first place reply, Wikipedia user talk pages can be used to discuss others edits. I didn’t come to ask for help, I only came to give you information that would be helpful in the future.DachshundLover82 (talk) 21:03, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So do you want me to move it back or what? Chlod (top • contribs) 21:04, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It’s fine it was moved back already so it’s fine.DachshundLover82 (talk) 21:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder who did that... Chlod (top • contribs) 21:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Umm...

There's already a draft here. Can you delete the existing draft? Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 07:59, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Beraniladri19: No. In the first place, I'm not an administrator, so I can't delete pages. At the same time, the quality of the other draft as of now is quite questionable, with its MH section being a near copy of the same MH in 2021 Pacific typhoon season (and the edit which copied it didn't even provide proper attribution – a copyright violation). I don't see a reason as to why it should be favored over the draft I made. If you have a gripe with that, try WPTC's talk page and see if others agree that the draft you linked is the superior draft. Chlod (top • contribs) 08:04, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Beraniladri19: Even if you were to propose a draft merge, I don't think merging it into the badly-written draft is the correct merge direction. All I can see right now is something cobbled together from pre-existing content from the season article, and (from general observation) this edit seems to just be a paraphrase of the line from my draft, since I'm fairly sure that line hasn't been used in a few (if not any) tropical cyclone articles. This edit by LowercaseGuy is just a blatant copy-paste of the history I worked on so far. Chlod (top • contribs) 08:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm really confused about these drafts: Chlod's draft is much better than the other, as the former is already build and improved, rather than the latter. But you can choose and vote. That's just my opinion. LowercaseGuy chow! 08:17, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If so, then Draft:Tropical Storm Surigae probably shouldn't be the draft being focused on. Perhaps you'd like to raise a merge proposal (or BOLDly merge, if your conscience allows you) at the draft talk page. Chlod (top • contribs) 08:23, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Forgot to ping LowercaseGuy. Chlod (top • contribs) 08:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And, btw, sorry for not giving attribution. LowercaseGuy chow! 08:18, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
LowercaseGuy, That's ok, even I'm also not a good article writer. Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 08:20, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's fine. Small mistakes help people learn. Chlod (top • contribs) 08:23, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

External Links

Hi Chlod,

I had a couple of links reverted - one was a link to a website which has a search facility for Catholic Schools - https://www.catholicdirectory.org/Catholic-Church.asp?Group-Type=Catholic-School - and it is on a wikipedia page about Catholic Schools - I thought this might be useful. The other ones were links to Catholic Newspapers which are available to read online - http://www.churchpaper.co.uk/ or I could put in a link directly to the Catholic Voice of Lancaster http://www.churchpaper.co.uk/C.asp?P=20 - I had a look through the guidance for adding external links and I thought both of these would fall under useful further reading. I also wanted to add new pages for a number of Catholic Newspapers which are not included in Wikipedia. Sorry I am a bit new to all of this, but is it ok to create new pages for each of the newspapers as they are current and in print - some are regional and some are National. I won't make any further changes or updates until I have hear back. Thanks for your time and your help! Nick 80.39.128.93 (talk) 09:21, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Nick. After looking at the external links that you added, I'm under the impression that those external links are questionable (at best) to be included in the external links section. We have a policy which dictates which and how external links should be added to an article, and in the three cases I saw, they seemed to be inappropriate for that article or needs further discussion in the articles' talk pages. As for creating pages, I highly suggest that you don't proceed with such due to concerns regarding your conflict of interest to those pages (as I determined from your help desk message), or the possibility of paid editing, which is prohibited by the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use. If you want these articles created, your publications would require notability as established by independent and reliable secondary sources, otherwise these articles would be deleted fairly quickly.
In any case, should you wish to push the addition of the external links, please make the appropriate edit request on the article's talk page in order to generate discussion prior to inclusion. This also helps in keeping the link on the article so that it won't be removed in the future. Chlod (top • contribs) 15:54, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Chlod,

That is a shame - obviously your pages list newspapers in the UK and our 11 newspapers have been running for 20 years on average and they totally 130,000 copies printed each month - each one being between 3,000 and 40,000 copies. So I would have thought the pages themselves would be appropriate and the link to the place where they can be read online would be excellent further reading. Copies of every issue for the last 35 years are held by the British Library - but unforunaely, they are only available online through the web link.

We're just trying to make the papers available to as many people as possible at this difficult time to ensure they carry on for another 35 years.

In all honesty, I'm not sure how to make edits on the talk pages, so I'll leave it for now.

Thanks, Nick80.39.128.93 (talk) 06:52, 8 April 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.39.128.93 (talk) 20:12, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Chlod,

I don't know if you got my previous message, I spent a long time writing it and it didn't seem to save.

In Summary: Each of the papers has about 40 articles in them and they have as many as 40,000 copies printed per month - that is the equivalent of 1,400,000 web page views per month for a single paper. That would be like deleting a page from Wikipedia because 1,400,000 page views per month is not enough to guarantee notability and general interest.

Furthermore, we added https://www.ChurchPaper.co.uk as an external as we feel it is of genuine interest and clearly interesting further reading.

I understand that we are the publishers - but we make the pages available for so there is no financial benefit to us. We are only doing this because an archive of the history of all of the Catholic Dioceses in the UK is of interest. Saying we have a conflict of interest, would be like someone saying you can't decide what should go into Wikipedia because you are associated with Wikipedia so you have a conflict of interest.

Our papers are distributed through Churches and Schools and they are VERY quick to tell us when copies aren't picked up. Also, we regularly have to justify our circulation and distribution. So each of the printing companies, who are independent of us, issue us with Certificates to justify the circulation and distribution - so we can supply these if it helps guarantee the notability and general interest of the papers each month.

Most of the papers are the official publications of Catholic Dioceses in the UK - which you do have pages for [EL 1] - so I would assume as these pages are relevant - their official publications would be too. For many years they have been a part of the Life of each Diocese and each parish - so they really are relevant to so many people, parishes and Dioceses. I can ask someone from each Diocese to support this - however, I don't know if that would help to authenticate them as the official publication of the relevant Diocese or whether it too would be seen as a conflict of interest. Alternatively, the editors - who are generally volunteers - would also happily write some information about the publications. Whilst as an editor you may say they have a conflict of interest. The reality is that they are people who have read the paper for years, decided to volunteer because they value it so much, and then put huge amounts of time into editing them each month. So as a guage of general interest, they are not only interested but have responded by working to keep it going.

Our archive, at https://www.ChurchPaper.co.uk will also include 2 or 3 publications which have stopped being published. These were very much part of the life of the Dioceses in the past and so we regularly get people asking for access to them. It would also be nice to include a page about these publications so there is a record that they existed. Although I understand if you feel that is going too far.

If you could give me some advice on the best way to proceed I would be very grateful as really feel they are of genuine interest to a lot of people. I only have to think of the absolute nightmare, on the odd occasion when things have gone wrong, we end up inundated with people complaining that their copies have not arrived. So I know first hand how interested people are in these publications.

I look forward to your response.

Thanks, Nick 80.39.128.93 (talk) 08:52, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

can’t join your discord and would REALLY like a private convo.

i have a few questions that i’m quite eager to ask you after coming across a few edits on the wiki of a certain book about solomon, i truly believe i was guided here for a reason and i would really appreciate the chance to talk to you, thanks. Lostintheabyss (talk) 08:03, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Lostintheabyss: The Discord is currently locked due to an ongoing influx of troll accounts. If you really have something important to talk about, you can use Special:EmailUser/Chlod. However, do note that I can immediately block you from emailing me if I see fit. I don't see how I can help you however, since I don't know a single thing about Solomon except the fact that he was mentioned in the bible. Chlod (top • contribs) 12:23, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
He was also a fan of cutting babies in half, I hear. GeneralNotability (talk) 12:28, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Very much so. Chlod (top • contribs) 12:28, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome...

The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
to the Inquisition :) Thanks for the help with Theobscure, translation vio takes forever and your quick responses off-wiki helped so much. Hope to see you in CCI or CopyPatrol one day! Sennecaster (What now?) 05:00, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Senne! Happy to have helped. :) Chlod (top • contribs) 18:33, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: There is no celebrating at CCI :) Sennecaster (What now?) 02:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sennecaster: Of course not. The celebration is figurative since I get to finally torture myself with other cases. Fun! Chlod (top • contribs) 02:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Creating wikipedia entry for a band, what should i do

Hello! Write your message here. PeterSnowdown99 (talk) 20:53, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would recommend creating a draft page then requesting a review - although I have to add, if you have any connection to said band, please disclose this as a conflict of interest. Finally, if you want to experiment with editing, try out your sandbox. Thanks for joining Wikipedia! Remagoxer (talk) 20:58, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging PeterSnowdown99. Read the above, please. Thanks. Chlod (top • contribs) 21:01, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Table edits at PCR yet again

Hi it's your least-favorite angry CCIquisitor and PCR sniper. I'm too tired to look into this and The Voice (Australian TV series) has a pending edit that breaks the wikicode; is it possible for you to see what's going on or if it's constructive? Don't worry about the advertisement; that's mine to hold it in place. Thanks in advance, Sennecaster (What now?) 03:51, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sennecaster: They forgot a closing |} at the end of the table. You going to add that in or should I make the changes for you? Also, strike "least-favorite"—that title goes to myself. Chlod (top • contribs) 04:05, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Sennecaster:  Fixing... Chlod (top • contribs) 04:10, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Feel free to accept or wait for a passing reviewer to accept the changes. Chlod (top • contribs) 04:13, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Danke! And no to the striking, you can't be your own least-favorite! The PCR queue is just full of recent ones, I'll stop sniping for about 8 hours :) Sennecaster (What now?) 04:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Have a nice day/night! Chlod (top • contribs) 04:17, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Darby Meeeting

Hello! Write your message here. 151.197.62.44 (talk) 19:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That does not help in the slightest. Please explain your reasoning behind this message instead of simply publishing the message with no additional information. Chlod (top • contribs) 19:34, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Write your message here. 151.197.62.44 (talk) 19:35, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

William Shakespeare's birthday

I tried to add William Shakespear's birthday as he is not listed under births for 23rd April. However he is listed under deaths from the same date as he died on his birthday. Why the post has been removed is really annoying.Hartcloseman (talk) 20:05, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Hartcloseman! Additions to days of the year require reliable sources. If you don't include a source, the edit will be rejected and reverted. For more information on this, please see the days of the year style guide, which details that "Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source". Chlod (top • contribs) 20:10, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CCI update

CCI complete

Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Carvin11 is now complete. Thank you for your assistance in the evaluation of this CCI!

(i should sleep, don't mind my double signing from discussion tools, feel free to remove the dupe) Sorry for roping you into this endless pit of hell. I promise I'll find a somewhat easy case next :) Sennecaster (What now?) 04:13, 26 April 2021 (UTC) Sennecaster (What now?) 04:13, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi it's me, I'm stalking contribs for my reward after slaving away at terrible biology problem sets. That's a lot of content removed; I would request RD1 from what I've seen (low amount of edits, mostly the adder as the contributions, those attract way too many copyvioers). Do you remember the earliest addition of the copyvio, and can you go back and request the revdel? Merci beaucoup, and sorry for vomiting baby HTML all over your talk, Sennecaster (What now?) 04:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and for that matter, It's much more impressive to remove hundreds of bytes at once in one edit with a wall of links in the edit summary. It's also twice as likely to get you reverted by the most peculiar of CV who like to look at established users for vandalism. If you want to dip your toes in a hard case, Ardfern + anything to do with airlines. Again, thank you for your work with the last threeish CCIs and also for willingly doing the rest of the Philippine CCIs, not everyone can stand to read about their countrymen for hours on end and also the mass copyvio from said countrymen :) (Well, everything in the US is either milhist or AMPOL while you at least get pinoy pop :P) Sennecaster (What now?) 04:11, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Sennecaster: Tolerance of your own countrymen comes with good understanding that they are bad at understanding copyright. That said, I've gone ahead and requested RD1 for Gawad Plaridel from the earliest revision with Sompat11 edits (617414667) all the way up to the last non-copyvio removal edit (exclusive). Thanks for the advice on parts to RD1! I'll be sure to take this in consideration in the future. Chlod (top • contribs) 12:29, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

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Mask dude hacker (talk) 20:56, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Copyright Inquisitor's Sword

Inquisitor Chlod's Reacher
This sword is bestowed upon Chlod for his service as an anti-vandal and Copyright Inquisitor. A fine and long blade for a fine and long-laboring editor. Please accept this extension of your arms, and brandish it mightily against the enemies of the Encyclopedia! ♠Vami_IV†♠ 23:33, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Vami IV: I humbly accept this sword bestowed by thee. I swear upon my honor and my soul that I will use this only to carry out the mighty goals of this Encyclopedia. I am eternally grateful. Long live, Brother and fellow Inquisitor! Chlod (top • contribs) 00:00, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Re

Blog is not the source. I hope you open the website link to confirm it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.8.129.117 (talk) 08:46, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to...

what may be hell at this point. You are hereby formally invited to edit this sandbox without my further permission to search and destroy for copyvios relating to things discussed both off-wiki and onwiki. Standard terms and conditions and rates apply.

There's already a blank cheque statement on my userpage and you've also have edited there to help out, but I feel like that this is going to be pretty major/long term (every season in every basin it feels like...). I think it needs to be formalized on-wiki. So yeah. Explicit permission to edit that sandbox. Have fun fixing my terrible HTML knowledge! Sennecaster (What now?) 04:19, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sennecaster: Since we might spend quite some time cleaning up the WPTC copyvio mess, might it be worth it to move the current table to a different subpage that isn't your sandbox? Possibly User:Sennecaster/WPTC or similar? Just so that you have everything organized and that you can use your sandbox for sandboxy things without having to create sandbox2. Also so that we could transclude it on the WPTC talk page for reference. Chlod (top • contribs) 04:30, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly, but I also never really touched my sandbox after TWA forced me to create it and until now. Besides, I want to keep this kind of quiet right now. Until it's done and my patience somehow reimburses its existence in my life, I would rather minimize the upset people at my talk. Anyways, moving, but probably should bookmark it in some way as I won't be listing this on my userpage. Sennecaster (What now?) 04:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to User:Sennecaster/Projectvios. Sennecaster (What now?) 04:38, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A Difficult User I am Concerned About

Hello Chlod. I hope this message does not come to you as too random since we have never interacted before, however I see you are a highly experienced user with extensive rights here on Wikipedia. I have come to you today requesting your opinion on this specific user called ZaniGiovanni, given you had already left a message on that user's Talk page on March 14 of this year. In summary, I personally have the impression that the user is WP:NOTHERE to build a Wikipedia. I have come to this judgment based on the user's recent actions, his tone when editing, his actual history of edits, his threats, and his apparent unwillingness to cooperate. Of course, you are much more experienced than I am, so I wanted to find out your opinion before trying to file a formal complaint. I have left a long message on ZaniGiovanni's Talk page detailing exactly what my concerns are with his behavior and I will paste it below as well. I apologize that I am posting the message itself, however, I think the message describes my concerns quite well and I didn't think it would be productive to re-arrange everything and try to turn it into a new message. I have included links to examples of his edits in the message as well. If you do not mind helping with this matter, the message is here:


ZaniGiovanni, you are a user whose entire edit history [1] is seemingly composed of only two things: 1) removing Azerbaijani names from villages in Armenia, and adding Armenian names to villages in Azerbaijan. 2) engaging in lengthy arguments with other users over trivial matters where you continuously resort to personal attacks, which even got you banned for a week at one point [2]. During the entire span of the time you have been editing, you have established a pattern of deleting information rather than adding it. You seem to have no issues with leaving Azerbaijani translations of village names when a highly experienced user reverts your edits [3] [4] [5] [6], however, you seem to apply a completely different standard to more regular users like me.
During the full span of time I have interacted with you, I have offered to you on multiple occasions to resolve our disagreements via Talk and compormise [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]. I have invited you to discuss things on your talk page to settle things in a civil manner. Not only have you ignored this offer multiple times, but you have seemingly made no effort to come to a compromise either, engaging in overzealous deletion of material WP:ZEAL, all the while sending me threats of you "reporting" me [13] [14] on the ground that you personally suspect me of sockpuppetry (although you've yet to provide any proof of that).
You have tried to implicate me in some sort of a scheme involving a banned user CuriousGolden on the talk page of another user [15] without having ever approached me with your concerns, and without having ever even spoken to me previously on any talk page about anything.
You have used a highly condescending, commanding tone during every interaction I have had with you. You have accused me of "edit-warring" and of "disruptive behavior" even though I have been open to talk with you and to compromise with you. You have used phrases like "Last warning, ..." [16] and "bogus POV information" [17] and "You will be notified if an investigation is opened on you" and "I would've already opened an investigation on you" [18] in reference to me.
Frankly ZaniGiovanni, I have no idea how to even approach you as a user. I personally feel you are making the editing environment unnecessarily toxic and making it impossible for us to have a regular conversation and I am thinking of requesting administrator attention WP:RAA, because I personally feel that you are not here to build a Wikipedia, particularly because I believe the following WP:NOTHERE descriptors are attributable to you:
1) "General pattern of disruptive behavior."
2) "Little or no interest in working collaboratively."
3) "Long-term agenda inconsistent with building an encyclopedia."
4) "Having a long-term or "extreme" history that suggests a marked lack of value for the project's actual aims and methods."
I will now seek to find an experienced user and ask them what they think of your behavior since I am very tired of you antagonizing me, threatening me, and everything else that I have mentioned above, because it seems I just can't reach out to you. - Creffel (talk) 06:44, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please let me know what you think and what actions you suggest I take. I understand you might find this a little random, but I just thought you would be an appropriate person to ask about this. Regards, - Creffel (talk) 07:31, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I already addressed accusations similar to of your "criticism" about me here. You do what you described to do and accuse other editors of the same thing. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 07:44, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Creffel. This definitely came as a surprise for me, but either way, I'd like to extend the best help that I can. Unfortunately, I am not an administrator, so I don't have any special rights that can entice Zani to consider actions one way or another. However given my experience, I can definitely say that there were some baseless claims being thrown onto other users. Since this is more of a behavioral problem, it is best dealt with on channels specifically for users like these – such as the administrator's noticeboard for incidents. Most WP:IDHT and WP:NOTHERE concerns are addressed better on that board, and the nature of this dispute being one with discretionary sanctions might make it more worth it to bring the discussion there.
As for the content, I can't determine which would be right or wrong, as the WP:ARBAA2 field is something I don't understand completely, and I also can't read Armenian. I do also have to note, that the burden of correcting information on the edit lies on the person who added the content, not the reverter. I suggest that in the future, you would simply discuss the matter on the talk page directly after being reverted. If that's not an option, it might be worth seeking a third opinion from other editors. I hope this helps you in choosing your next actions regarding this user. Oh, and to ZaniGiovanni: please keep the fighting off my talk page, and instead reply on the thread posted on your talk page (which you have unfortunately reverted). Thanks. Chlod (top • contribs) 07:58, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A discussion is already going in in AntonSamuel talk page, admins were also pinged. Creffel might be investigated for sockpuppetry. I told him not to leave essays in my talk page, most of which were already addressed by me in a different post in admin noticeboard, hence the reason of my removal. I also informed him of the discussion going on with admins pinged. I will not leave any messages here out of respect for you wishes. --ZaniGiovanni (talk) 08:04, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@ZaniGiovanni: The appropriate place for SPI requests is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations. The appropriate place for user misconduct is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. The talk page of a user is definitely not the right place for either. Be BOLD and feel free to file complaints at the correct venues if you want to get something done. It's the best way for both editors to move on from this argument. Chlod (top • contribs) 08:12, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Giving you a cookie for a well-constructive edits

DFW FAA Brianvators (talk) 03:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the cookie, DFW FAA Brianvators! Chlod (top • contribs) 11:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's me!.jpg

Hi, It's me, I hope you appreciate the joke. I just figured out something very terrible while doing Ardfern too late at night to be reasonable (I got that history thing done, yay!) I am about to sleep, so I'm wondering if you want to pick up a pretty terrible and complicated copyright issue. If you don't, that's okay with me! I'll handle it when I wake up :)

Anywho, there was an extremely nasty splitoff to Gulfstream International Airlines, has copyvio I think (courtesy earwig link) The diff is the one right before the split. From what I saw on Earwig, if it's before 29 May 2009, it's a copyright violation. If a revdel is required on Gulfstream International, this diff is the addition. If this is a copyvio, then Silver Airways will also require a revdel with the last one being from the first diff I gave. There's a lot of text. I believe all you have to do is verify the date of addition of that content on the historical diff of Silver Airways, remove it from Gulfstream, and request revdel as necessary.

I wish I could a) provide the diff of addition, b) do this myself, and c) not have to shove it on you, but you did incline off-wiki that you somehow didn't hate cleaning up copyvio. I need sleep, good luck. Sennecaster (What now?) 04:11, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Sennecaster! Haha, funny joke indeed, and congrats on getting that history thing done! Anyways, I was able to pull out a revision of Silver Airways before 29 May 2009, the date that the comment on that CNN source was made. I found that the text had already existed on the article even before the comment was made, and that the comment on the CNN source had copied from Wikipedia, not the other way around. The external links perfectly matched up with this as well. Here's an archive in case you want to see the text with a better interface. That section of the Gulfstream International Airlines does need additional citing, though, since it seems like the original text (that got copied to the comment) is original content. Since there's no copyvio here, I've left the page alone for now. :) Chlod (top • contribs) 07:32, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! It was a mess, and it required way more braincells than I had at the time. I've given you some Ardfern Lite I guess. CNN copying Wikipedia? well if governments do it, MEH. Sennecaster (What now?) 10:35, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it was a comment on the source, not the actual source itself. Kind of like those Facebook users that post comments with snippets of Wikipedia under a post (for the lack of a better analogy). Chlod (top • contribs) 10:39, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trouted!

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

For the old, not even worth mentioning copyvios from when you first started editing. :) Thanks for fixing them! (all in good nature :D) Sennecaster (What now?) 22:14, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reminding me of my past mistakes helping me spot some old accidentally-overlooked copyright issues on my part, Senne! :) Chlod (top • contribs) 23:39, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed

Hey, I have saw that you have deal the gust issue for the 10-minute sustained winds in the Template:Infobox tropical cyclone current, so can you deal with the 3-minute winds Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 08:53, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Beraniladri19: Hiya! I've made the proper changes by introducing the gusts-position parameter, which definitively solves all future gusts positioning problems. I'll update the template documentation for its correct usage shortly. I've made the correct edits on 2021 North Indian Ocean cyclone season, so the gusts should be displaying after the 3-minute winds for ARB 01 now. Chlod (top • contribs) 09:05, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Chlod, Thanks a lot, this prolonged disease have finally came to an end. Thank you very much Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 09:07, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Farewell, cat-piss yellow

I've changed my signature to #FFFF55 to reduce eye strain when viewing my signature. Still yellow, but not as cat-pissy. Chlod (top • contribs) 22:40, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

saying hi

Heart (talk) 17:46, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@HeartGlow30797: Hello! Please say something else other than "hi" as Wikipedia is not a forum. Thanks! Chlod (top • contribs) 21:26, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For giving helpful tips for me :-) Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 14:31, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome! Feel free to ask for help anytime. Wikipedia is a collaborative project — we're always here to help. Chlod (top • contribs) 14:33, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thanks for trying to help there. However if you see something like that again (which is admittedly extremely rare), please don't do a cut-and-paste move and instead move the page back normally. If you can't do the latter action, perhaps at least move it to be a subpage of the original user/user talk page, which would be far better than marking it for deletion. I've history-merged the two talk pages. Graham87 08:31, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Graham87: Understood. Thank you for the advice. Chlod (top • contribs) 00:59, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A question

Does this site archives TCFA issued by JTWC ? Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 17:21, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Beraniladri19: Yes, they're under the invest's designation (see here for an example). Chlod (top • contribs) 17:23, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Chlod, Ok thank you Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 02:27, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ok another one is that why this site don't archive prognostic reasoning ? Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 15:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Beraniladri19: Prognostic reasonings are archived under https://wiki.chlod.net/jtwc/prog/. Chlod (top • contribs) 15:15, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Chlod, Ok thank you again Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 15:16, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hi, I came to ask a question about a custom script but was confused by your user page which suggests the presence of altered perception. Are we allowed to ask questions about this or would that be considered a social faux pas because I've never seen this on a user page before and I don't really know the etiquette surrounding health information that people voluntarily provide. (I assume that it is "fair game" to ask about, but sought confirmation that my assumptions are warranted.) Thanks! LaceyUF (talk) 01:09, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@LaceyUF: Hello, and thanks for asking clarification. The {{User mental health}} banner helps inform other editors of certain conditions that may affect their work on-wiki. In my case as someone experiencing depression, I have left talk page messages unanswered for long periods of time, or completely dropped off editing entirely when I'm experiencing bouts of disinterest from all work. It mostly helps a passing user understand that someone (in this case, myself) isn't always capable of exerting their full effort on Wikipedia. Of course, mental health issues shouldn't be used as an excuse to avoid responsibility for procedural errors on-wiki, nor should an editor use Wikipedia as an alternative to therapy — those should instead be dealt with a licensed professional.
Feel free to ask your original custom user script question or ask for a follow up to this one. I'm all ears. Chlod (top • contribs) 01:59, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, promise me you won't laugh at my script question, but I am launching an alternate reality game next month and I wanted to randomly select 20 wikipedians (along with 180 non-Wikipedians) to participate who have the redditor infobox on their userpage (denoting that they use reddit). I assume most people here on Wikipedia keep their reddit accounts private, but is there a way for me to figure out which wikipedians publicly link their reddit accounts? (possibly using a script?) LaceyUF (talk) 02:04, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@LaceyUF: So far the three Reddit userbox templates I found ({{User:Jorgenev/reddit userbox}}, {{User:Dainomite/userboxes/reddit}}, and {{User:WaddlesJP13/Userbox/Reddit}}) don't have ways of specifying the username, so a script to merge Wikipedia usernames with Reddit usernames is a bit difficult. You could get all the users with that template on their userpage using PetScan, and then manually check Reddit usernames to see a match, but that would likely go into the hundreds and be a pain to run through. It also doesn't ensure that the Wikipedian is the same as the Reddit account, since username conflicts happen all the time. Though there is a way to systematically check the usernames using the Reddit API, I don't think this is a good idea considering that the outing policy prohibits (non-consensual) linking to off-wiki accounts of Wikipedians. Perhaps you could look for willing Wikipedian redditors on r/wikipedia instead? That might get you some of the respondents you're looking for. Chlod (top • contribs) 02:31, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing this out to me, I didn't know it was asking for trouble. I'll heed your advice and stick to recruiting partially from r/Wikipedia since it's safe to assume 50% - 80% of the people on that subreddit are bona fide Wikipedians! Also, against better judgment, I'll shoot you a brief email regarding my 2cents about mental health since mental health discussions are somewhat sensitive/private by their very nature! LaceyUF (talk) 02:58, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. Chlod (top • contribs) 03:01, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
For being an excellent contributor to WPTC articles and your anti-vandalism work. I know that you've had to deal with a lot of stress and on-wiki issues recently, but you're doing great. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:21, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

JMA archiver

Hey man, since you have created some useful archiving machines like JTWC and PAGASA archiver, so can you make a JMA archiver ? Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 08:16, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Beraniladri19: I might be able to work on this in the future. I'm still swamped with unproductivity and my academics, so it might take me a while. Chlod (top • contribs) 03:42, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]