User talk:Colonel Warden/Archive 6

RFC/U

I think you read wrong. I wasn't blocked for bad faith XFDs. I was blocked for prank nominations on April Fools' Day — and the block came two hours after I had stopped making any more prank nominations anyway, causing it to be promptly overturned. Those are not the same thing. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 17:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

• I suppose that vandalism is usually considered to be a prank by its perpetrators. Note the first entry in WP:VANDTYPES: "Bad-faith placing of non-content tags such as {{afd}}, {{delete}}, {{sprotected}}, or other tags on pages that do not meet such criteria." Warden (talk) 09:21, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

• Again, pranking on a day known for pranking across the whole wiki ≠ bad faith. I think it's clear I was doing them in good faith. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 18:17, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

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Academic Spring

My good Colonel, articles on the Academic Spring were all over Financial Times last week. Many of our elite friends like to large it up about their commitment to academic values, but it comes as no surprise that it took a true scholar like yourself to create an article on this important topic. Thank you! FeydHuxtable (talk) 10:49, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. I was surprised that such a headline topic had not been touched yet. Your additions have given the topic another good push and I have given it the once-over again. The topic will only fully mature when we have some historical perspective but, at the rate these things go now, that should only take a few years. It could be that paper journals will be joining Britannica quite soon... Warden (talk) 12:33, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

	The Editor's Barnstar
	For your creation of the article Academic Spring Rangoon11 (talk) 18:42, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you - I shall add it to my collection. I hoped that the topic would be of interest to Wikipedians and it is good to see this working out. Warden (talk) 08:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

It's an interesting and important topic and one which is much deserving of a WP article. For what it's worth I also can't help but think that such trends are not just inevitable but on balance a positive development. Rangoon11 (talk) 12:56, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar! Much appreciated!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:53, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aircraft graffiti (2nd nomination)

I thought it would be polite to tell you that I have nominated Aircraft graffiti for deletion. The discussion can be found by clicking on the title of this message.

Op47 (talk) 13:28, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks; that's most gentil. Warden (talk) 20:27, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

List of trains run by Indian Railways

What is your policy based reason for keeping "List of trains run by Indian Railways"?--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:31, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:PRESERVE. I shall respond further at the AFD. Warden (talk) 09:09, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

		The Editor's Barnstar
		A barnstar for your significant and laborious work on the List of trains run by Indian Railways article, through which the article has been significantly improved and brought up to Wikipedia's standards. Thank you for your efforts to improve the encyclopedia for the public. Northamerica1000(talk) 23:03, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Pakistani village life

Just a note, I've been working on improving this article. Since you've done the same, please feel free to continue, if you have available time/interest in contributing more. Northamerica1000^(talk) 07:11, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for picking this up. I think we've done enough for now but I'll keep my eyes open for more material. Warden (talk) 09:32, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Lady's navel

	The Resilient Barnstar
	Ur a good egg Colonel. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:21, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

• A good egg? Is that another type of pastry? No, I understand and thank you for your compliment. Warden (talk) 17:25, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I would rather fancy a Lady's navel to bite into..♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:49, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

• We are spoilt for choice. I'm reading up on nuns' bellies now (barrigas de freiras) and find that there's another Portuguese dish called "bacon from heaven" (toucinho do ceu). Hmm... Warden (talk) 18:00, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

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Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 20:14, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for the notification about the barn star

Many thanks indeed for the notification about the barn star. This is the first time it has ever happened to me in all my years of editing Wikipedia, and has helped to make my year, so a million thanks! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:19, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback

	at my successful RFA
	Thank you, Colonel Warden, for your feedback at my RFA. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:17, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Orville

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	This comment was hilarious. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:14, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. For more LOLcats, see cats in popular culture... Warden (talk) 20:28, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

KunstRAI

Hi: I have just seen that you had Orville (cat) userfied. I created an article on the art fair yesterday - with about a line and a half on the Orvillecopter. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:31, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

• Well done. Great minds think alike, eh? Warden (talk) 20:27, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Peeves

• Peeved (AfD discussion)

See User talk:Uncle G#Doffer. Uncle G (talk) 14:20, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Lion Brewery (Hartlepool)

I've had a request to merge Lion Brewery (Hartlepool) and Camerons Brewery. As you contested an earlier merge proposal I wondered if you still had any objections. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 16:22, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

• I have been watching Farrtj's updates to the company article but didn't want to disturb his additions to it. I still prefer to have a separate page for the brewery building, like we have for Ringwood Brewery, for example. Warden (talk) 17:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I assume you mean that Ringwood is not merged with Marstons. Ringwood has a notability and a history entirely independent of Marstons. Lion Brewery, however, is the building for the Camerons Brewery, and the history is shared. The building's notability is entirely dependent on that of the owner Cameron. Cameron took over a brewing company in 1865 - the name of the company was the Lion Brewery, and Cameron kept the name for his brewery building. The building which exists today under that name was actually built by Cameron in 1892 - so the original company ceased in 1865, and the original building ceased in 1865. I am wondering if you are under the impression that Lion brewery is a brewing company rather than the name for Camerons brewing building, and you think that Cameron took over the Lion Brewery in the same way that Marston took over Ringwood. It's worth noting that the building in which brewing takes places is called a Brewery, and the company which does the brewing is called a Brewery, and that they often have different names. The company Camerons Brewery brews in a building called Lion Brewery. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 19:31, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I will proceed with the merge unless you have continued objections. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 07:54, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Undid close

I undid your close here Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Skeptoid_(2nd_nomination). We don't ignore the merge vs keep arguments just because there at AfD. The closing admin can weigh these up as well and see where the consensus lies. IRWolfie- (talk) 10:21, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

• Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Invalid closure. Thank you. Monty₈₄₅ 13:35, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
• Colonel, it was suggested in that (now-closed) threat that you refrain from closing possibly contentious AfDs. I think that's a good idea. Happy days, Drmies (talk) 18:08, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Clay Boland

Thanks Warden! I came across the The Jazz Bass Book - Technique and Tradition in Google Books when I entered the search "too good to be true" "roy eldridge". That's also how I found the Roy Eldridge, Little Jazz Giant book, although that source required a few extra steps since it only offered snippet views. The initial snippet didn't reveal much [1], so I removed roy's name from the "From inside this book" search located immediately above the snippet. That gave me some text [2], but I could only see up to the part on p. 320 that reads "Roy plays an appropriate". I then typed that sentence fragment into the main Google Books search and got this, picked out a few words that I hadn't seen in the earlier snippet view, and that gave me a snippet view in which the song's sax solo was compared to a Coleman Hawkins piece [3], so I used that in the article.

By the way, good work on the Clay Boland article - creating a main page for the composer really helps strengthen the ability to keep individual pages for his notable songs. Cheers,  Gongshow ^Talk 19:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips and kind words. Warden (talk) 14:35, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Joseph Azar

Colonel, this page was tagged as A7, which I declined, after which the nominator urged me again on my talk page to delete it. I disagree--perhaps you or one of your stalkers are interested in this topic, for which I believe there are some references (see also the relevant section on my talk page). Thanks, Drmies (talk) 13:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I have added some references. Warden (talk) 14:36, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Misquotation

Evening Warden. After your revisions to Misquotation earlier, I realised that a significant portion of the article duplicates Quotation. While I'm inclined to incorporate your revisions into the Quotation article, then modify Misquotation into a redirect, I'd appreciate it if you could comment on the proposal as a recent contributor. Cheers, Mephistophelian (talk) 17:47, 30 August 2012 (UTC).

• Both articles seem quite undeveloped. It might be best to start a merge discussion per WP:MERGE. Another issue is that there's an awfully tendentious coatrack at fallacy of quoting out of context too. Warden (talk) 17:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Ten Pound Hammer

So what, are you just wikistalking me now to pounce on every AFD I file right away? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 23:05, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikistalking is a pejorative term. Following a user who has a track record of repeated inappropriate AfD nominations into new AfD nominations would seem to be a prudent way to protect the encyclopedia from such misguided efforts, should they recur. Jclemens (talk) 23:09, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

• I try to examine every AFD. TPH's tend to attract attention because they often seem erroneous. Warden (talk) 23:11, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Worley noise

Wikistalk much? I've said my piece on the Worley noise AFD. I know "dicdef" and "short" are not synonymous. I'm saying that the article is both short and nothing more than a definition. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 11:35, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:ANI#TenPoundHammer, AfD and WP:IDONTUNDERSTANDIT

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is TenPoundHammer, AfD and WP:IDONTUNDERSTANDIT. Thank you. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:04, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

• I saw it already, thanks but ANI is a waste of time in such cases. Arbcom might be better. Warden (talk) 21:07, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

• For convenient reference, here's a list of the 11 articles in question:

1. Asymptotic Decider
2. Image-based flow visualization
3. Lagrangian-Eulerian Advection
4. Local maximum intensity projection
5. Skin friction lines
6. Streamlet (Scientific Visualization)
7. Streamsurface
8. Tensor glyph
9. Texture advection
10. Vortex Core Line
11. Worley noise

Warden (talk) 23:33, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Kansas City streets

How about showing how they can be expanded? I looked high and low and all I found was directory listings for the 39th Street Best Western or books saying "[non-notable business] is located on 39th street". You can't build a whole article entirely by making a list of not individually notable crap on the street, or every street in the world would have an article. Your argument is "it's notable because it's notable" and "nobody's trying to improve it", neither of which hold water. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 22:41, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

• If you think there are sources, prove it. Just saying "but there are sources" doesn't mean jack shit unless you show that there are. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 22:42, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

• I have made a start on doing just that. Off to bed now. Good night. Warden (talk) 22:59, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)

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Nomination of Eye poke for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Eye poke is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eye poke until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Barnstar

Thanks for that. If I have time I'll expand the main article further but I have a certain ambitious bibliography to start compiling..♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:29, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

"Close helmet"

I am largely ignorant of Wikipedia processes so I have no idea if what I did was within accepted punctillio or if I acted within usual mechanisms, but in regard to the article Close helmet I proposed deletion for a number of cogent reasons, as explained on the article's discussion page. Can you give me any equally cogent reasons for keeping the page?

The page could be merged with Close helm, but with all the content of Close helmet removed. The article Close helmet is entirely erroneous at present, has no redeeming features and usurps the name of a different helmet than the one described in the text.

Urselius (talk) 09:44, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

• My impression is that both close helm and close helmet might best be merged with armet. They are all variations of the same idea and so it seems best to bring them together. See WP:MERGE for details of of the process. Warden (talk) 10:13, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

I would argue against this, as the armet and close helm(et) have a different construction and are treated as distinct in virtually all relevant scholarship (at least in the English language). They also developed at different periods - the armet from about 1440 and the close helm(et) from c.1490. The definitions of armet and close helm(et) hinge (pun intended) on the way they open to admit the wearer's head. The armet skull sometimes is almost reduced to a strip at the back, from the skull are hinged two large "cheek-pieces" which fasten together at, and under, the chin. This results in an opening which is protected by a visor which pivots at two points at the sides of the skull. The close helm(et) opens by having a bevor pivoting at the same place as the visor. The armet opens laterally, wheras the close helm(et) opens vertically. Urselius (talk) 11:12, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

This is best on the article talk page, where it forms part of the visible record for that article, to the benefit of future editors.

There is no point in discussing content with Colonel Warden. He knows nothing of any subject in detail, but sees that as no barrier to a prolific career as an editor. Merely re-arranging words from one website to here is enough; understanding or expertise in a field is unnecessary. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Andy, I wouldnt be so dismissive of experts, they can sometimes be useful. Granted, the Colonel's universal scholarship is often superior to experts even in their own domains. But very few other volunteers have the exceptional intelligence and education needed for his polymath style editing. FeydHuxtable (talk) 11:48, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, fixed my punctuation. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:07, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Hoteliers Barnstar of Esteem
	César Ritz himself would be proud of your commendable efforts to improve Bristol Hotel, Gibraltar and show the rather colourful nominator of the AFD to have shown an error in judgement. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:33, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. FYI, my efforts in this field have been quite modest - just pop-up hotel and Skindles, so far. I used to enjoy staying in the Marriott World Trade Center but that is no more alas. Warden (talk) 10:42, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Howz that?♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:40, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

• Good work. I'm finding mentions of family trees and see tantalising portions of them in Google snippets. I'll put my findings on the talk page and start a graphical version. Warden (talk) 19:51, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:The No Asshole Rule might come in handy in future AFDs..♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:40, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

• Hmm, this may not be universally popular. The phrase "if the cap fits, wear it" may be useful as and when this goes to MfD... Warden (talk) 19:51, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Brilliant!

[4] I knew I'd seen that somewhere, but damned if I could find it again. Malleus Fatuorum 21:15, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

• You're welcome. I came across the fact when browsing the topic when it came to my attention a couple of weeks ago. I didn't want to disturb you at the time but, when it popped up on my watchlist again, it seemed best to get it done. Like you say, it took a while to find a source for this again and I can't remember if it's the same one. As for the book itself, I read it in my childhood but only have a dim recollection of it now. Warden (talk) 21:52, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

  I had rather modest ambitions for this article when I started on it, GA at best, but the amount of help I've received has made me think that maybe we should think about shooting for FA. That way everyone who's contributed content gets the credit for it. A small thing I know, but the only reward we get here. Malleus Fatuorum 22:39, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Coral Island is one of my favourite books! I'd be happy to join you on it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:39, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Thanks for your creation of the new Cathedral Square, Gibraltar article, and for your efforts to improve the encyclopedia's coverage of notable locations. Northamerica1000(talk) 14:04, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks - your gesture is much appreciated. Warden (talk) 14:45, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Typos

I figured we could discuss the question of handling typos offline from Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Σ. I'm not sure if there is a consensus on handling typos, but there are a good number of redirects that exist to handle them and the {{r from typo}} tag as well. An advantage of a redirect would be to jump directly to the article as opposed to having the multiple matches presented to the reader and having them perform another click. I will add that I've found the algorithms used by WP to not be as strong as an engine like Google, even for some 1-letter typos.—Bagumba (talk) 21:08, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Queen Elizabeth's corgis

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

• That's a pleasant surprise as I didn't know it had been nominated. Thanks to you and the other DYK folk. Warden (talk) 16:38, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation newsletter - closing up!

Hey all :).

We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.

However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.

Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:27, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Historical figure

Thanks for pointing this one out. I may keep messing around with it - not sure. It is a complex subject. I assume you are o.k. if I keep moving to an {{sfn}} style of citation. This is an article that can mostly be sourced from books, and {{sfn}} gives a convenient way to refer to different pages in the same book. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

• You're welcome. I'm not fussy about citation formats so feel free to do as you think best. Warden (talk) 19:15, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I see this AfD closed with "snow keep". Far more could be added. In the "significance" section I think the Carlyle-Hegel-Marx etc. views need clarification - but somewhere I read that if you think you understand them, that is more than they did themselves. I have a short span of attention though, and am going to move on. Feel free to make any changes and additions you think are needed. It will be interesting the see the DYK reaction. Given the size, it will take a brave reviewer to check it. And given the mood at DYK lately, at least for articles I have been involved with, it is going to face a barrage of criticism. Maybe not. :~) Aymatth2 (talk) 17:58, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

You have more patience than I do; I tend to flag after I've found and linked to a good source. Anyway, I'll make a pass over the current version and help nurse it through DYK. The only problem is likely to be the size of the article now - it is this which intimidates reviewers most, I suppose, as it suggests that there lots of checking work to be done. Anyway, thanks again for your help with this — you're a gentleman and a scholar. Warden (talk) 17:04, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

About your oppose

Hey, Colonel, I'd like to talk about this a little bit on your talk page, if you don't mind. If you think we should talk about it somewhere else (or not at all), just let me know. I don't want to make it look like I'm badgering you; my relative lack of content creation is perfectly reasonable grounds for an oppose (though I obviously disagree with it), so I totally respect your !vote. I actually didn't include that bit about Al-Ruhawi being Muslim in the first version of the article that was in mainspace; I thought that the source was profoundly unconvincing (and still do, even more so, really). But after taking advice, I decided that it should warrant at least a mention that someone thinks he may have been a Muslim. I didn't want to cherry-pick my sources, and I couldn't give it any less weight without including commentary on it, which of course would be OR. Had I known that there were people who thought he may have been Jewish, I certainly would've included it, but the main source that everyone seems to use for Adab al-Tabib is Levey, so I based most of the article around that. I never claimed that the article was perfect or complete or anything; there's always more stuff to add. But I think it's a pretty good article, at least for a start; reasonable people can differ on that, of course. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 22:47, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

• I am always banging the drum for our policy WP:IMPERFECT so I'm not suggesting that the article is so bad that it should be deleted, say. My position is based upon the fact that it only took me about 5 minutes to identify this issue which sources described as controversial. If you didn't come across these then you seem quite inexperienced at article research and creation. If you are not yet able to do this well then you may be led by the nose by the disputatious editors who infest our controversial topics and so would not be able to perform well as an admin. You should please gain more experience of working upon difficult topics. Warden (talk) 23:05, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm not gonna pretend I'm not new at it. I guess I'm asking people to trust that I won't try to adjudicate content matters unless I'm experienced enough to do so, which is why I want to be more a maintenance-type. I can respect that, though; thanks. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 01:19, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

• Warden, let's take a closer look at this. A History of Medicine looks to be a reasonable source, but the fact of Jewish ancestry is only raised as a possibility with the reader pointed to footnote 737. That points to Manfred Ullmann's Islamic Medicine (1978), and I'm not seeing anything to that effect in that book (although given the paucity of the information in the footnote it's not possible to tell which volume in the series is intended).

So, is there a better source? I think I've found one.

...Bürgel also tells us about al-Ruhawi's religion affiliation in the introductory part of both of his articles, and he writes that al-Ruhawi was Jewish. We do not wish to be perceived as religious take-siders, but both of these statements need to be re-evaluated since, at least one of them is wrong, if not both. Neither of the authors give any evidence as to why they think he was a Christian or a Jew. Otuz sekizinci Uluslararası Tıp Tarihi Kongresi bildiri kitabı, pg 254 (citations omitted).

All of this might be relevant in the article on Al-Ruhawi, but I think it's a reasonable editorial decision to elide the author's alleged Jewishness and the attendent academic debate in an article focused on one of the author's works. GaramondLethe 17:53, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Embarrassing to watch

Colonel Warden, I thought what you said in your original statement here was very wise. But your latest comment I have to agree with entirely. For some reason I am reminded of a lot of over-excited boys all trying to fight it out, in various loosely formed gangs, on a small patch of grass, after school. I'm really not sure why. A little unedifying, I think. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:56, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Boys will be boys, eh? Thanks for your observation but I'm off to bed now. Let's see what the morrow may bring ... Warden (talk) 23:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Royal Gibraltar Yacht Club

Thank you for reviewing my nomination. When you have an opportunity, please check the revisions that I made today. I addressed the topics you had specified, and I've also added more book references and a photo, etc. Have a great weekend. Anne (talk) 20:17, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

• You're welcome. I have chipped in another detail and source. Warden (talk) 10:03, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

• When you have a chance, would you please add a symbol to your review, so that I know its status and DYK administrators know what to do with it. Thank you. Anne (talk) 13:38, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

An invitation for you!

	Hello, Colonel Warden. We are in the early stages of initiating a project to plan, gain consensus on, and coordinate adding a feature wherein an article will be chosen for collaborative improvement. If you're interested in participating, please add your name to the list of members.

 Happy editing! Northamerica1000^(talk) 22:02, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Landport

Thanks for the Landport article. We also have a stub for Landport Tunnel. Do you agree that this is the same article? I'm going to add it here in next few minutes so it should get a plaque. Victuallers (talk) 10:30, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Merging the landport tunnel into the landport article sounds sensible - I'll take a look. Note that I also created Cathedral Square, Gibraltar and helped to rescue and defend Bristol Hotel, Gibraltar and Flat Bastion Road. The latter was especially hard-fought so am grateful for the barnstar below which is something of a campaign medal. I shall continue to man the ramparts against further assaults upon the Rock or DYK in general. Warden (talk) 11:32, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

A (belated) award from us (and the signpost :-) )

		The Signpost Barnstar
		This month the Signpost said that the Gibraltar project was a " ludicrously productive GLAM project". Thank you for helping us with that achievement. We have got behind with the barnstars so this is one to say thank you for helping. Gibraltarpedia.org is now showing the list of about 100 plaques - do take a look and see the languages we will be featuring. 10:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Yet another award!

		The Article Rescue Barnstar
		I hereby award this barnstar to editor Colonel Warden for saving Historical figure from destruction at AfD and for helping to fast track it into a top class article. FeydHuxtable (talk) 20:30, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

I had figured Id wait to give you a unique Colonel barnstar, to celebrate when I get round to improving Colonel House. Not many have heard of him due to his modesty, but he was arguably the second most influential progressive of the whole 20th century (not that one would guess it from the current article). He reminds me of you in several different ways. But your work on the HF article demands an immediate barnstar! FeydHuxtable (talk) 20:30, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you. I know a little of Col House from studying WWI at school. Note that the centenary is coming up soon and there has already been some GLAM activity preparing for this. Warden (talk) 07:23, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

From the greenhouse

That was kind of a low blow, Colonel--or an attempt at one, since I don't think it really landed anywhere. Drmies (talk) 21:12, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Unbelievable to see even a true scholar such as LH under attack, this place gets more surreal by the day. FeydHuxtable (talk) 21:36, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

• Be that as it may, this reminds me that Orville appeared in Time Out yesterday. He shall rise again! Did one of you mopperaars take a picture while he was on display? Warden (talk) 12:41, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
  • Hmm--haven't heard mopperaar in three decades or more. Nice old-fashioned word, Colonel, and a nice find. No, I was not around when the cat flew: I'm just another poor expatriate. Speaking of deletions, Chonga could do with your help. Drmies (talk) 18:46, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for letting me know - how ridiculous. I will leave a comment. Neutrality^talk 19:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

This is not a newsletter

This is just a tribute.

Anyway. You're getting this note because you've participated in discussion and/or asked for updates to either the Article Feedback Tool or Page Curation. This isn't about either of those things, I'm afraid ;p. We've recently started working on yet another project: Echo, a notifications system to augment the watchlist. There's not much information at the moment, because we're still working out the scope and the concepts, but if you're interested in further updates you can sign up here.

In addition, we'll be holding an office hours session at 21:00 UTC on Wednesday, 14 November in #wikimedia-office - hope to see you all there :). I appreciate it's an annoying time for non-Europeans: if you're interested in chatting about the project but can't make it, give me a shout and I can set up another session if there's enough interest in one particular timezone or a skype call if there isn't. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:51, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

JSTOR

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Thank you! Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 21:03, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks. I have sent you an email confirming my details. Warden (talk) 13:23, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Information

I noticed your username commenting at an Arbcom discussion regarding civility. An effort is underway that would likely benifit if your views were included. I hope you will append regards at: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questionnaire Thank you for considering this request. My76Strat (talk) 11:36, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

award

Article Rescue Sqaudron Arbitror

This award signifies that Colonel Warden is a Article Rescue Sqaudron Arbitror Congratulations. Spoildead (talk) 21:28, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Per FeydHuxtable's suggestion. Spoildead (talk) 21:28, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Accusations

Don't accuse me of disruption and sundry other offences. That is highly offensive, provocative and unnecessary. Try some acronyms if you prefer :WP:AGF, WP:CIVIL for a start. Just discuss the bloody AFD and don't attack the proponent if you disagree. Barsoomian (talk) 17:08, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

IIRC, one of the tropes of that universe is that making lots of noise tends to attract the walkers in large numbers... Warden (talk) 17:18, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Very funny. Does not excuse or justify the several offensive accusations you made, both on my talk page and the AFD, against me personally for simply posting an AFD. An AFD is nothing more than asking a question, and there is a week at least before it's decided, and I have no power other than to give my opinion. So treating me as if I had killed your puppy for doing so is way out of line. Barsoomian (talk) 03:51, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

List of herbivorous animals

Over three years ago you removed a PROD I added to List of herbivorous animals The list remains mostly unsourced, and far from complete, as the PROD noted. this report says you haven't edited it since you rescued it. Do you have any interest in improving it or, alternately, supporting an AFD? Thanks. 72.244.204.76 (talk) 10:54, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

• There was already an AFD and the conclusion was to keep the list. We have no deadline and there doesn't seem to be a reason to give this particular page a high priority. Warden (talk) 14:11, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

		Holiday Cheer
		Michael Q. Schmidt my talk page is wishing you Season's Greetings! This message celebrates the holiday season, promotes WikiLove, and hopefully makes your day a little better. Spread the seasonal good cheer by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Share the good feelings.

Hello Colonel Warden: Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable holiday season! Northamerica1000^(talk) 12:37, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

My good Colonel, here's wishing you a very merry Christmas and a prosperous new year! FeydHuxtable (talk) 10:49, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks and good wishes to you all too. Warden (talk) 13:56, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

File:Happy New Year 2013.jpg		Have an enjoyable New Year!
		Hello Colonel Warden: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 15:23, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

AfD close

Have you misconstrued the nature of the request at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Scheduled_Castes? Your closure refers to deletion when the request was for userfication. You may also wish to review User_talk:Salvio_giuliano#Topic_ban_and_AfDs. - Sitush (talk) 12:43, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

• AFD is for deletion and requests for other type of action there are inappropriate per WP:SK, as cited. I have commented at Salvio's talk page. Warden (talk) 13:07, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
  • SK would have been a valid close before Hasirpad agreed with Orlady, but that invalidated it. I have reverted your close for now -- the closing admin may very well close as keep, but speedy just doesn't work. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:26, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
    • I defer to the greater wisdom of the pair of you! I really do not know how proposed userfications are supposed to be handled. I've reverted the closure notices on the list + its talk page - hope this is ok? - Sitush (talk) 13:45, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
    • Hasirpad's position in agreeing with Orlady was that the article should be userfied not deleted. WP:SK was therefore still applicable because there was still no deletion !vote, per WP:SK: "...and no one other than the nominator recommends that the page be deleted." As for proposing userfications, there is no standard process for this because our editing policy is to work upon articles collaboratively in the article namespace. The idea that articles are or should be worked on by a particular editor is strongly contrary to WP:OWN. There was an attempt at a collaborative equivalent at Wikipedia:Article Incubator but that seems to be quite moribund now. The correct process is to mark the article as under construction (as as at present) or to mark it as a stub or incomplete list, for which there are other templates. Rome wasn't built in a day... Warden (talk) 14:30, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

MfDs

MfD nomination of User:Colonel Warden/IBM WebSphere Business Events

User:Colonel Warden/IBM WebSphere Business Events, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Colonel Warden/IBM WebSphere Business Events and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Colonel Warden/IBM WebSphere Business Events during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Colonel Warden/Secrets of a Small Town

User:Colonel Warden/Secrets of a Small Town, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Colonel Warden/Secrets of a Small Town and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Colonel Warden/Secrets of a Small Town during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:47, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Colonel Warden/Travel policy

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MfD nomination of User:Colonel Warden/Fictional military organisations

User:Colonel Warden/Fictional military organisations, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Colonel Warden/Fictional military organisations and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Colonel Warden/Fictional military organisations during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:50, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Colonel Warden/List of people who have turned on the Oxford Street Christmas lights

User:Colonel Warden/List of people who have turned on the Oxford Street Christmas lights, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Colonel Warden/List of people who have turned on the Oxford Street Christmas lights and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Colonel Warden/List of people who have turned on the Oxford Street Christmas lights during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:51, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Colonel Warden/Spikor

User:Colonel Warden/Spikor, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Colonel Warden/Spikor and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Colonel Warden/Spikor during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:51, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Colonel Warden/Dakota Malting and Brewing Company

User:Colonel Warden/Dakota Malting and Brewing Company, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Colonel Warden/Dakota Malting and Brewing Company and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Colonel Warden/Dakota Malting and Brewing Company during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:55, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Colonel Warden/Automobile ownership

User:Colonel Warden/Automobile ownership, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Colonel Warden/Automobile ownership and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Colonel Warden/Automobile ownership during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:55, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Colonel Warden/Orville (cat)

User:Colonel Warden/Orville (cat), a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Colonel Warden/Orville (cat) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Colonel Warden/Orville (cat) during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:58, 3 January 2013 (UTC)