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PPV's

Stop putting PPV names in italics. You are creating extra work for me. TJ Spyke 22:06, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

By having to go and manually remove the italics. It's been convention to not use italics for PPV's. TJ Spyke 00:51, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I know you wer trying to hurt the articles in any way. It's not a policy, it's just a convention we've been doing. There are too many wrestling articles to check. TJ Spyke 01:04, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

WP:PW Warnings

Thanks for this revert, check out the user's talk page for this lengthy discussion I've had with him regarding Wikipedia's pro wrestling project guidelines and style guide (apparently, wikipedia doesn't have rules we need to follow, we just edit away...). Also, the Shelly Martinez dispute you asked about (sorry for taking so long to get back to you) seems to have been resolved. Is it? If not, I will gladly take a look for you. Happy editing, Bmg916SpeakSign 17:03, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

RE: Mike Mizanin

I have alerted an administrator, who will hopefully be able to move it back soon. The page was moved around a bunch so there are some re-directs he'll probably have to kill as well. Bmg916SpeakSign 14:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem. And no, there unfortunately aren't any administrators that are part of Wikiproject Pro Wrestling, but there are ones who are friendly with some of our editors and help us out from time to time. Bmg916SpeakSign 16:12, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

wwefan980talk

How about I'll edit as long as I am not vandalizing okay? I don't have to listen to any type of warning, and neither do other people as long as they can verify the changes they make in their edits. Wikipedia encourages people to edit and there is nothing wrong with adding to the knowledge of a particular wrestler. Those warnings can't be enforced as they are just made by other users but Wikipedia and what it says comes first. With that said, if you would like to reply please do so on my talk page. Wwefan980 16:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Let me know if he changes the warnings again, and I will report him to the administrative group. I have explained Wikipedia's policies on community consensus to this editor. What wikipedia says is to abide by community consensus, and this editor is not. So he isn't even following his own rationale. Bmg916SpeakSign 18:59, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Ah yes but stubborness is not vandalism. And I say this to you because you directed and edit towards me. If you don't want to give me feedback fine it doesn't matter. Wwefan980 22:55, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I change these warnings that I don't believe should be there basically but a whole lot more. BMG916 deleted his whole talk page almost, so not even half of our conversation is still there but there are still things I have said you can go look at if you want to know. Wwefan980 14:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Well I even proposed that but it wasn't even brought up again. I'll talk to some other editors later but I don't think they can force their edits any more then I can. Thanks for being respectful. Wwefan980 14:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

RE: Tommy Dreamer

Yea, don't worry, several administrators are all over the sock puppeteer, he's pissed off numerous people. Bmg916Speak 23:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem

I have no idea who TV2007 think s/he is but using policy to defend their actions then trying to play you off against Lid is not on, even if s/he is a n00b. And as for well respected, aren't all members of WP:PW? ;) Darrenhusted 12:19, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I think you know you were incivil, Deep Shadow. Because he decides to step in and defend you, really doesn't mean a thing. Lid handled it better than you did. I'll probably turn the page back to the way I had it some time this week. The only reason I didn't switch it was because I was at my 3 rv rule. It's not your article and if you get defensive like that again, you could be blocked. Darrenhusted, I gave you a warning for referring to me as n00b.TV2007 15:32, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not the one who will get blocked for this, and neither will Darrenhusted. You are acting against the very policies you claim to be enforcing. At least now you know not to do major changes to articles without discussing the matter first then acting in the project's best interests, not your own.
Also, I don't see what good it will do to revert the page. It will get changed back to the way it is now. And not just by myself. I don't always patrol Wikipedia.
Once again, I don't claim ownership of any article. I follow WP:PW policies and guidelines. To me, it seems like you are the one trying to claim ownership of this article.
By the way, isn't reporting people one of the points you made about my "bad behaviour"? - Deep Shadow 15:36, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
yes TV2007 17:31, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
The Undertaker article is on my watchlist as well, has been for months, so if you want to help "TV2007" then try checking it for spelling errors or tidying up sentence structure, or even looking for references, rather than starting a WP:LAME edit war over something which is being discussed on the WP:PW talk page here [1], a discussion that you have not contributed to, instead you started a discussion to be uncivil towards a fellow editor. Darrenhusted 22:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
hm TV2007 23:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

And cheers for the JB revert. Darrenhusted 00:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Shelton Benjamin

I saw that you nominated Shelton Benjamin as a Good Article candidate. In my opinion, the article is not yet ready to be nominated. I just went through and cleaned it up a bit by removing IMDB as a source (reviewers frown on its inclusion), changed passive voice to active voice, and fixed the placement of citations (after punctuation). However, I also noticed that almost all (if not all) of the citations are from primary sources or cite only match results. In its current state, the article is much better than most wrestling articles, but I still don't think it will pass. Try adding some more sources to the article. I'm going to try and some more, too, to help you out. Maybe together we can fix it enough so that it will pass. :) Nikki311 20:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Kristal Marshall

Ok, seriously just because she did once a move doesn't considered a "signature move" Art 281 02:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

That is what I did, and she stated on her myspace that it said that she was from Alabama when she was really BORN IN NEW YORK AND RAISED IN OXNARD, read the message again. And now she resides in New York City, it was on the pro wrestling news 1 month ago. I know what I am doing Art 281 02:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Remember your revert? [2] Fox News is following those coincidental edits... "Saying 'several pro wrestling websites' is still not reliable information."--Jw21/PenaltyKillah(discussedits) 11:31, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

RE: Candice Michelle

Early life looks good to me. Kudos for being bold and fixing the article. I would also ask The Hybrid what he thinks as he is a very well established and experienced editor in WP:PW. Peace, Bmg916Speak 17:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

The early life looks good to me, too. The Candice Michelle article was on my to-do list (which is beginning to get quite lengthy). I guess I can take it off, since you seem to be going a great job. If you want me to look over it again when you are completely done...just let me know. Nikki311 21:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

I left my comment in the space provided, but since everyone is commenting here I guess that I can as well. You've sourced literally everything, you haven't made any grammar or spelling errors that I can see, and you've used an encyclopedic tone. There aren't any policy violations in the sections, and they appear to contain all necessary information. I'm quite impressed by the job you did. If only all of us could pull that off. Keep up the good work :) The Hybrid 02:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree. You did a great job. I made very minor fixes in the article. I only added a few commas, a few link fixes, and maybe one or two verbs were in passive voice rather than active voice. I'd say it is more than ready to be moved into the regular article space. Congrats on a job well done! Nikki311 22:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind. I'll keep a lookout for anyone reverting the article (I doubt they will). Her article is on my watchlist anyway. :) Nikki311 22:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Candice Michelle

Comment moved from user page. -- Gogo Dodo 06:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I know i have bagged you in the past but i am saying sorry I think your work is awesome and thank you for cleaning up CaNDICE mICHELLE PAGE AND ADDING MORE REFRENCES AND HOW DO YOU CHECK TO SEE IF IT IS A GOOD ARTICLE —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nilsson23 (talkcontribs)

So Candice Michelle Article is in the Low Importance —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nilsson23 (talkcontribs)

Heyy Why havent you added her ranking on the POWER 25 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nilsson23 (talkcontribs)

What does that mean notable PLZ explain Nilsson23 09:42, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Nilsson23

THANK YOU DEEP SHADOW. THE CANDICE MICHELLE ARTICLE IS WAY BETTER — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.181.169.252 (talk)

Deep Shadow sweet diva deleated like everything on the candice michelle page he/she deleated 3 refrences 5 moves and 3 lines from the 2007 section can you report that —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nilsson23 (talkcontribs)

Excuse me whoever that was but I did no such thing! Sweet Diva 03:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I know you didn't. Although it may be frustrating, don't worry about the accusation. That user is a troll. I've been blamed for the same thing when I haven't touched Candice's moves list.[3] I also "make articles worse" apparently.[4] I've noticed your edits and see no vandalism at all. - Deep Shadow 04:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Make articles worse? You do some great edits! Well just wanted to make sure that i dont get reported! Thanks Sweet Diva 04:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

rv'ing vandalism

Thanks for helping me kick butt against vandalism tonite! -Superbeecat 09:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)