User talk:Deer777

Welcome![edit]

Hello, Deer777, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Mobile Broadband Pricing Paradox, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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Proposed deletion of Mobile Broadband Pricing Paradox[edit]

The article Mobile Broadband Pricing Paradox has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

This article comprises original research, specifically drawing conclusions based on an original synthesis of facts in the source articles.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:03, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

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Whpq (talk) 14:58, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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My page is gone, before even finished editing ...[edit]

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why my page is gone before I have finished editing?

It's generally best to use the article wizard - Wikipedia:Article_wizard. Articles created through this won't be deleted just for being incomplete (although they may be if they are just spammy advertising, copyright violation, etc). However, you should consider the comment above about original research. Something you've discovered for yourself probably isn't a suitable subject. Pinkbeast (talk) 17:19, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) We do not want readers of the encyclopedia to come on "watch-this-space" articles, so articles that do do not contain enough material to make clear what they are about may be speedily deleted. If you want to take time over making an article, click on Help:Userspace draft and fill in the title: that will make a draft page for you in your user space where you can work on the article. Alternatively, as Pinkbeast suggests, you can use the Article Wizard.

However, from what you say, it seems that you want to write about something you have discovered yourself, and I am afraid this is unlikely to be acceptable, because of the policy Wikipedia:No original research. You should read all of that, but the two key passages are:

"If no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article about it. If you discover something new, Wikipedia is not the place to announce such a discovery."
"Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources."

There is good advice on how to write acceptable articles at WP:Your first article. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback[edit]

So some admins claim the started article has not enough contents (that was actually true). Others claim that this is original research. So if there is not sufficient content, than how can anyone come to this conclusion? Which one is it, than? Or just an excuse to delete? "First delete than later we can find an excuse why we deleted it?"

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Article Wizzard[edit]

Actually I have used the Article Wizzard to create the article. Still it has been deleted ... "speedily" :-)))

Sources and References[edit]

Yes, there are reliable sources and references. However if I am not allowed to add them to the article (I mean the article gets deleted while being edited i.e. sources and references being added) than I see no way of doing this.

AFC[edit]

Now I know where this went wrong ... Articles For Creation ... please don't delete that ... OK?

Original research[edit]

Deer, your basic problem, and the reason your article keeps getting deleted, is that it appears to be about this startling new discovery you have made. Your discovery may or may not be valid, but in either case, Wikipedia is not the place to publish it. Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought, it is a compendium of thoughts and facts that have already gained widespread acceptance, as evidenced by the publication of said thoughts and facts elsewhere. In this case, you should find the appropriate mobile communication industry journal, and submit an article to them. Their editors will review your findings, and if they appear to hold water, your article will be published. Once that happens, we can then create a Wikipedia article based on the published sources. But not before. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:22, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks[edit]

"not a publisher of original thought" many thanks for the explanation, I think that is good enough for me. Please ... how do you know this is an original thought? Have you had the chance to read it?

You wrote "I have discovered a paradox in Mobile Broadband Pricing, this is notable and worth sharing."

If you discovered it, it is manifestly an original thought. Pinkbeast (talk) 12:42, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If I re-phrase it "I coined a term, to describe most people know ..."? Would this work on Wikipedia?

No. A term you have invented yourself is not a suitable subject for an article. Pinkbeast (talk) 13:29, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK, it seem can't submit an article.

Well, you can't submit this article to Wikipedia. If it is indeed a new thing you have discovered, try submitting it to an appropriate journal. And if you have some knowledge of the mobile broadband industry, please feel welcome to contribute in that (or any other) are at Wikipedia. Just keeping in mind the guidelines. (Read "Wikipedia:Your first article" and "Wikipedia:The five pillars" for a good introduction.) WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:34, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I meant this article. Have no intention to search for an appropriate journal. The intention was to share it in the public domain. Not possible ... no worries.