User talk:Dockurt2k

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RSSBus

You posted to the talk page of this article asking that it not be deleted. My response (copied from the talk page to help ensure that you see it) is:

Then reduce to a stub and work off-line until you have something worth posting. Be prepared to include citations showing notability of this product (the article title appears to be about a product rather than a company). Please review WP:CORP and WP:SPam before proceeding. It its current state, this article is well within the deletion criteria. DES ^(talk) 23:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

(Response copied from User Talk:DESiegel for clarity.)

I am still new on Wikipedia and I am willing to learn. You tell me that to do a stub, that's exactly what I did. I am positive, I added a stub tag. Therefore I don't understand what you meant on my talk page?

About the fact that this article was describing a product lacking notability. Would you please tell me the difference with the Yahoo Pipes article Yahoo_pipes ?

Finally, how can I work on this article to put it back online in a form thats suits more the wikipedia policy? That's to say, where can I find the article once it is deleted ? Actually, I don't want to rewrite the whole thing, i would better start from what it was.

In advance, thank you for your response. Dockurt2k 16:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

By "Reduce to a stub" I meant not just adding a stub tag, but deleting the content that looked like advertising, and leaving only a very short identification of the company while you drafted an article off line. But the article has since been deleted, so that point is moot.

I haven't (yet) reviewed Yahoo pipes, it may well be a page for a non-notable product that no one has yet noticed and taken action about. In general due to the distributed nature of work on wikipedia, defending an article or practice by saying "It's no worse than XYZ" gets the response "XYZ is a poor example, clean up this page and then we'll get to that one."

Admins have access to deleted articles, although non-admins don't. (That is one of the very few differences.) I can, if you wish, retrieve a copy of the article as it was before it was deleted, and move a copy to a page in your userspace such as User:Dockurt2k/RSSbus draft. Or I could email it to you. I will do either if you so request. If you ask for the page in userspace, please be aware that this should be only for the temporary purpose of drafting an acceptable version of the article. if after a reasonable time nothing has been done with it, any admin can, and I will, simply delete it again. Also please be aware that while it is in your userspace you should not create links from the article space to it. If you want assistance in drafting a more acceptable version, please ask. Once an acceptable version has been drafted, it should be moved (not cut & pasted) to articlespace. This will preserve the editing history. I or any admin can help you with this, if you wish, or see requested moves. I urge you to get a more experienced wikipedian to review the draft when you think it is ready for article space. I also urge that you review WP:COI, WP:SPAM, and the page on notability.

I hope this is helpful. DES ^(talk) 16:33, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Note that the Yahoo pipes article references independant coverage from IT Week which goes a long way toward establishing notability, in general press or media coverage of a non-trivial nature (not including press releases, ads, or blogs) will establish the notability of a product. DES ^(talk) 16:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Done, the page is now at User:Dockurt2k/RSSbus draft. I have removed the speedy delete tags. Please remember that the article must ultimately document the notability of the product, and not sound like an ad. DES ^(talk) 16:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Your edit to Jefferson Memorial

[1] -- Thank you for experimenting with the page Jefferson Memorial on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. --Bossi (talk ;; contribs) 23:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I consider this statement to be an error, see Talk to Thisisbossi Dockurt2k 15:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

My apologies -- I was trying to rush through reviewal of my watchlist and misunderstood the edits that had taken place. You are correct: you were making an honest effort to repair the article from a vandal whom had snuck in an additional disruptive edits. Feel free to disregard and/or remove the above warning. Thank you for your correction and assistance! --Bossi (talk ;; contribs) 23:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you -- for taking time to answer on my talk page. I didn't want people to think I am having fun doing funny edits.