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[edit]I wanted to point out that there is a JAG episode that parallels the Frank Olson case. It is from Season 10 Episode 9; "The Man on the Bridge." It follows the investigation into the disappearance of a Navy scientist,(bioweapons defense lab) Commander Adam Kohler, who was investigating his father's research (while at Fort Detrick in the 1970's) and disappearance. His father was assumed to have jumped out of a high hotel window. Commander Kohler has a copy of CIA manuals about assassination referencing drugging a person and throwing them out a window. Commander Kohler ends up finding out that his father was killed by another scientist who he had discovered was giving intelligence to the KGB.
I was hoping this reference could be added to the page. Peanutbutter251994
- Go ahead. Valerius Tygart (talk) 14:46, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- While I'm here, User:Peanutbutter251994, you'll need a published source that meets WP:RS to add this. Dougweller (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- If Episode 9, Season 10 of JAG is as described (I haven't looked into it), then no, that does not need "a published source" to be believed. Citing the show & episode will suffice. Let's not be so hysterical. Valerius Tygart (talk) 19:16, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- While I'm here, User:Peanutbutter251994, you'll need a published source that meets WP:RS to add this. Dougweller (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Merger discussion for Tuckahoe Marble
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Merge discussion at Reason Rally (2012)
[edit]Just in case you didn't see the ping I did, some users are questioning why the two Reason Rally articles are separate and are talking about merging them. Since you split them I though you might want to chime in, the discussion is happening at the talk page for Reason Rally (2012). --Krelnik (talk) 13:58, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- No objection to merging the articles, if that is the consensus. Valerius Tygart (talk) 14:01, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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Leonard Nimoy
[edit]Verifiability, what's up with you. Mlpearc (open channel) 18:00, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
- Having a problem believing your own eyes when you see it on YouTube?? Vision problem, I guess. This is the film: U.S. Army PMF 5300/Navy Film MN 7499b (1954), Combat Psychiatry — The Division Psychiatrist (33 min.; b&w ). It's in the public domain. Still don't believe it exists? I don't know what to tell you. (Why don't you take all those other movies on Nimoy's list which don't have sources away while you're at it?) Valerius Tygart (talk) 18:09, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
- I saw the video, if you'd look at my revert, the edit did not have anything pointing to a source. You're awful bitey. Mlpearc (open channel) 18:15, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry. You opened with a threat,
, which I found rude. Valerius Tygart (talk) 18:18, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry. You opened with a threat,
- I saw the video, if you'd look at my revert, the edit did not have anything pointing to a source. You're awful bitey. Mlpearc (open channel) 18:15, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
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- I don't know what you are referring to. I edited that article today, but am unaware of anyone else's recent edits. Did someone complain about mine? Valerius Tygart (talk) 18:10, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
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- Note that I have been editing Wikipedia for over 10 years. If you want to say something to me, your tone & content could be less haphazard, shoddy & condescending. Just say it. Valerius Tygart (talk) 18:13, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
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Please also read WP:NPOV and WP:PROMO and avoid promoting anything when you edit Wikipedia. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 18:02, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- I am soooooo grateful to you, Dog.... Valerius Tygart (talk) 18:14, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
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Thank you. Jytdog (talk) 17:09, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
- drama that violates several policies and guidelines. you can personalize this all you want; it will not help you get the content you desire and only harms your reputation here. As you will. Jytdog (talk) 19:12, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
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- The complaint is at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Valerius Tygart reported by User:Jytdog (Result: ). It looks like you broke 3RR on 13 October and that led to protection of the article. You wouldn't have to keep doing these reverts if anyone agreed with your changes. On the article talk page, I see no hint that you intend to abide by consensus. For example, it has been argued that there should be no 'History' section due to its use of primary sources, but you keep putting one back. If I am the closer, you can avoid being blocked for warring if you will agree not to edit the article again unless you have consensus in your favor on the talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 18:56, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- Edit warring at Low level laser therapy
You've been warned per a complaint at the edit warring noticeboard. You may be blocked if you make any more edits at Low level laser therapy that are not supported by a prior consensus in your favor on the talk page. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:16, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
- Valerius, you are continuing to edit the contested material at Low level laser therapy after my warning. You have made no post on talk since that time, so you've made no effort at getting a talk page consensus. Please self-revert your last change and there may be time to avoid a block. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 16:02, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
- Greetings EdJohnson! I did indeed edit the article. (No offense intended.) I would be happy to post again, as often as necessary, on the talk page. But recall my last post there, some 6 days ago: "At this particular moment, it appears to me that I am the only editor here dialoging in good faith. Lift the protection if you like, but consensus has NOT been achieved. Indeed, substantial & serious discussion of my edits has not even happened." These words remain just as true as before. I am happy to engage with any and all editors on a good faith basis and without threats & ultimata. However, if you feel you must block, then do so. Valerius Tygart (talk) 16:24, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
- Edit warring at Low level laser therapy
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You have continued to edit the contested history section, without attempting to get consensus first. This violates the warning which resulted from the most recent AN3 case. Since the article was fully protected from Oct 13 to 18 due to an edit war in which you participated, this doesn't leave us many options. The ideal outcome is to see you waiting for consensus before making further changes. You seem to have rejected this option. EdJohnston (talk) 16:33, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
- Strong work, Ed! Valerius Tygart (talk) 20:52, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- User:EdJohnston please have a look at the recent history of Low level laser therapy - Valerius came off their block, re-added the content under an IP, and just reverted my reversion of that. Zero interest in seeking consensus for these edits. Jytdog (talk) 15:03, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- User:Jytdog, consider opening an WP:RFC at Talk:Low level laser therapy. Another option is to discuss what sources are usable for the history of this therapy at WP:RSN. EdJohnston (talk) 15:19, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note. I think there should be a history section - it is just that Valerius is uninterested in actually working toward consensus and there is no room to try to get there with their aggressive editing. Jytdog (talk) 15:21, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- If you won't even attempt an RfC, that weakens your position if this gets appealed further. EdJohnston (talk) 15:26, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for that -- I will consider it! I am just unsure how to proceed in this situation; i have dealt with a lot of difficult characters but Valerius is taking the cake here. Jytdog (talk) 15:53, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- If you won't even attempt an RfC, that weakens your position if this gets appealed further. EdJohnston (talk) 15:26, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note. I think there should be a history section - it is just that Valerius is uninterested in actually working toward consensus and there is no room to try to get there with their aggressive editing. Jytdog (talk) 15:21, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- User:Jytdog, consider opening an WP:RFC at Talk:Low level laser therapy. Another option is to discuss what sources are usable for the history of this therapy at WP:RSN. EdJohnston (talk) 15:19, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- User:EdJohnston please have a look at the recent history of Low level laser therapy - Valerius came off their block, re-added the content under an IP, and just reverted my reversion of that. Zero interest in seeking consensus for these edits. Jytdog (talk) 15:03, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
The "difficult character" asks (yet again) that Jytdog stop personalizing the issues with gratuitous adjectives and asides. More important, I ask that you stop characterizing me as "uninterested in actually working toward consensus" when there is ample evidence to the contrary. After I failed to yield to your one-sided, idiosyncratic, and rigid interpretations of wikipolicy -- and after I made two concrete proposals, both of which you would not deign to acknowledge -- you announced (ludicrously) that a "consensus" against me had been unanimously achieved. You then declared victory and more or less signed off ("that's all I will say for now"). If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not going away. Ever. I am now committed to improving this article, with or without your help. You are now simply reverting anything I edit, without rationale, except the lamest. ("He's editing without signing in! Wahh!") If you will not even engage me with comments about why you think my good-faith edits are unacceptable, you will prolong this situation indefinitely. I patiently await your (thoughtful, constructive, non-personal) remarks. Valerius Tygart (talk) 20:11, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- I've proposed the changes for you on the Talk page, as you were advised to do yourself. Jytdog (talk) 20:24, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you, Jytdog, although you know I proposed them myself on the Talk page a couple of times.... Valerius Tygart (talk) 13:15, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
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- From my user page...
Anon A majority of this user's edits have been (& continue to be) anonymous. - ...placed there many years ago. That said, I never intentionally make the same series of edits on the same article both logged in & logged out. Thanks for the advice, but I see none here that I need to take. Valerius Tygart (talk) 13:04, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
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- Also on my user page for several years...
Non This user has been mistakenly accused of sockpuppetry, twice. - Guess I'll have to make it three times.
- Magnolia677, you are a genuine nuisance.Valerius Tygart (talk) 14:18, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
February 2018 Redux
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- No, ma'am, I have not deleted or edited anything you wrote. I can title sections on my talk page as I like. No removal needed. Valerius Tygart (talk) 19:33, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- All I wanted to do was get you to stop edit waring using two different accounts. I would have left it at that but your response was so defiant, even after previous cautions. Now you write that silly heading about harassment. My goodness. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:00, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Perhaps you should take up a hobby. I have heard that needlepoint can be quite absorbing. Valerius Tygart (talk) 14:48, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- All I wanted to do was get you to stop edit waring using two different accounts. I would have left it at that but your response was so defiant, even after previous cautions. Now you write that silly heading about harassment. My goodness. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:00, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Whether or not it was your intention (and I sure hope it wasn't) to edit both logged in and out on Tygart Dam, to the outside observer, it looks an awful lot like sockpuppetry. Please try to avoid this situation from now on. Sro23 (talk) 01:34, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Section at epidemiology article
[edit]You introduced a new section at the Case fatality rate article, which included no citations. That section's content is at odds with the rest of the article. I cannot source its many unsourced statements. I cannot justify the statement that the CFR statistic varies between 0 and 1, and that it is not a ratio, when the rest of the article contradicts these assertions.
Could you please either remove that editing, or add the citations from which you drew the content? If we can see the sources, we can sort out the mistake. Otherwise it is guesswork for us to try to correct (and makes your editing of epidemiology articles look very suspect). Here is the diff that says it was your edit. See the paragraph you added, beginning "A mortality rate — often confused with a CFR — is a...". Thank you in advance for helping move this article from being a mess, to being encyclopedic. 2601:246:C700:19D:6DB8:E3D9:8FD6:A7B0 (talk) 21:09, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hello! The edit about a CFR not being a ratio was mine, but the one about it varying "between 0 and 1" is someone else's. Even so, I don't see the problem. You may be getting confused about how a CFR varies between zero & unity (0 and 1, 0% and 100%, etc). There's no contradiction. I have tried to clarify in the article along with adding 2 references.
- BTW, the personal swipe about "your editing of epidemiology articles look very suspect" is not necessary. Valerius Tygart (talk) 17:43, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Your addition is not well-sourced. It uses one source only, Epoch times, and that is deprecated. See WP:RSP. Please use the article's talk page. MartinezMD (talk) 16:28, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
- Continue at the article's talk page. Valerius Tygart (talk) 15:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]![]() | You are continuing to revert other editors at An Experiment with Time. You have now thoroughly breached the Three-Revert Rule. Next time you show Edit warring behaviour in this discussion I |
— Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 17:27, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
You "stall" report me? Why wait? Report me now! Valerius Tygart (talk) 19:52, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- You should not be whining about me on an article talk page: either take me to ANI or leave the matter be. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 20:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- How about a third option: A compromise. I'll extend a peace offering with the following proposal: Here is my edit as it currently sits:
In Philip Jose Farmer's 1952 science fiction novella The Lovers (expanded into a novel in 1961 & '79) the religion of the Haijac Union derives from Isaac Sigman, a messianic figure of a thousand years prior to the events of the story. Sigmanism is the belief system of the "Sturch" (state-church) and it is clear that it is an elaboration, or variant, of Judaism. It incorporates Dunne's "Serialism" with an extremely oppressive and coercive theocracy.
- I agree that it does seem a little lengthy compared with the other lines. Suppose I shorten it a bit:
In Philip Jose Farmer's 1952 science fiction novella The Lovers, a fictional religion of a thousand years hence is based on Dunne's "Serialism"; it won a Hugo Award in 1953.
- The bit about the Hugo (which is true, BTW) dovetails nicely with the next sentence about Philippa Pearce & her Carnegie Medal. (Hugo = premier SF award; Carnegie = premier children's fic award). What do you say? Valerius Tygart (talk) 23:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Similarly, you should not expect us to discuss article content on user talk pages but in the article talk page, so that others will see it. First you try to discuss it in your edit comments, then you demand consensus, then when that turns against you you seek compromise. I would recommend following WP:POLICY rather more diligently. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 09:26, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- As always, you make it difficult to accept you on an "assume good faith" basis. I would be happy to discuss article content here or there. You scolded me above for "whining about me on an article talk page", so I thought I'd make my offer here to allow you some measure of face saving... In your case, it is impossible to separate "article content" from the angry, self-centered editor that hovers over it... BTW, (1) did I "demand consensus" ? (No, you did), (2) did consensus "turn against me" ? (No, there is no consensus, hardly even the beginnings of a discussion... You & I have had our say by now, more or less... Now we need even ONE additional editor to give a coherent & full opinion on the matter... And of course we need more than one)... I'm sorry you disdain my offer of compromise, which offer was made in the best spirit of wikipolicy... You thereby reveal your true character... Well, I tried... It's going to be a long slog... Back to the trenches! Valerius Tygart (talk) 12:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Valerius, but did you have the opportunity to give consideration to the following potential whole set of covered tigers hidding in the bush? WP:BLUESKY will nicely complete the show but only above the canopy ( Baccharis pilularis: hit the preview button ) . --Askedonty (talk) 13:53, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- As always, you make it difficult to accept you on an "assume good faith" basis. I would be happy to discuss article content here or there. You scolded me above for "whining about me on an article talk page", so I thought I'd make my offer here to allow you some measure of face saving... In your case, it is impossible to separate "article content" from the angry, self-centered editor that hovers over it... BTW, (1) did I "demand consensus" ? (No, you did), (2) did consensus "turn against me" ? (No, there is no consensus, hardly even the beginnings of a discussion... You & I have had our say by now, more or less... Now we need even ONE additional editor to give a coherent & full opinion on the matter... And of course we need more than one)... I'm sorry you disdain my offer of compromise, which offer was made in the best spirit of wikipolicy... You thereby reveal your true character... Well, I tried... It's going to be a long slog... Back to the trenches! Valerius Tygart (talk) 12:05, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Similarly, you should not expect us to discuss article content on user talk pages but in the article talk page, so that others will see it. First you try to discuss it in your edit comments, then you demand consensus, then when that turns against you you seek compromise. I would recommend following WP:POLICY rather more diligently. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 09:26, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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