User talk:Elli
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Hi! This is my talk page, feel free to drop me a message. To experienced editors: feel free to stalk my talk page and reply to any threads here.To admins: I prefer that my talk page remain unprotected, even if it's being vandalized. Such edits do not particularly bother me and I prefer to remain accessible to anyone who would like to reach me. However, if the volume of vandalism is so high that no other solution would stop disruption, I don't mind if my talk page is semi-protected for a day or two. Hopefully, this is a rare occurrence.
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[edit]So, are you going to provide an appropriate target for these 5 redirects? As for being a "valid CSD", this is essentially WP:CSD G8: "Redirects to targets that never existed or were deleted". The relevant section was removed entirely from the article in question and doesn't appear in the main article either. - dcljr (talk) 04:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Dcljr: that sounds like a great rationale for a nomination at redirects for discussion, but CSD is pretty strict. These are redirects to a target, and that target hasn't been deleted, it just no longer has a mention of the redirect's title. Deleting them without a discussion would be improper (oftentimes when such redirects are brought to RfD, content is restored to a relevant article or a new target is found). Elli (talk | contribs) 04:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Already doing that: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 26#Bionic Bunny. - dcljr (talk) 04:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi
[edit]So I've made over 80 edits after my 500th edit, which i feel are constructive. I've been browsing Wikipedia for 6 or 7 hours and have only left the site briefly a few times. It's taken hours to hit 80 edits because I'm reading random articles on topics I'm not even interested in and sometimes there's nothing to edit. If I don't make it to 200 new constructive edits today, can I still get extended confirmed access back, being on this site for hours and making almost 100 constructive edits, does that prove I'm trustworthy, can I please have my thing back. I didn't know gaming edits for Extended confirmed access broke the rules, one user said I was aware, but I wasn't because I didn't read my talk page a month ago. And I made around 60 unconstructive edits on Jim Cornette to get extended confirmed access, since I have 80 new constructive edits, I think I've made up those 60 edits I used to wrongfully gain extended confirmed edit access HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 11:32, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- btw I accidentally wrote this message on ScottishFinnishRadish's talk page, I meant to send it you you, sorry HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 11:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- What is looking more and more likely is that I'm going to block you indefinitely for falsifying sources and disruptive editing. This souce you added doesn't mention anything from that paragraph. This source doesn't mention Run DMC or Faces. This and this add puffery that could have been created by a LLM. There's this edit that makes the prose objectively worse and leaves in the obvious false statement, and this ECR violation. This adds content not supported by the source and this is not an improvement. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- With the Rucka Rucka Ali thing, I was trying to be fair to the Palestinians because the state of Israel and Palestine both claim Jerusalem as their capital city. As a person who's Jewish myself, I love everyone it doesn't matter if you're Arab, Jewish, Black, white, etc. my name is HumansRightsIsCool because I believe everyone is equal, I didn't know i broke a rule, there's so many rules on this site im sorry I'm bad at memorizing and reading everything. Also it is sourced that El Chapo was charged with murder, just scroll down on that page it says he was charged with murder in 1993, thats why I added it to the lead. And I don't know what an LLM is, but you're saying this thing called an LLM wrote stuff, I don't even know what that is and I've been writing stuff by myself all night. I have no friends helping me. Also you claim I'm falsifying sources,I only read the headline of the sources, I'm so tired I stayed up all night and I just assumed the sources were good so I can get back to editing because I'm extremely desperate to get extended confirmed access back. Notice how their was hardly any problems and barely any warnings before you took away my extended confirmed thing, I really wanna edit things I'm passionate about, but I can't because most pages I'm interested in require extended confirmed access. Please don't block me, I at least spent 7 hours trying to make good edits, hopefully that shows how dedicated I am to this website. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 12:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Also you claim my edit about University of Greifswald was false when I said there's centuries of notable people that want to that school. There is, the article already says "generations of notable people", but the schools been around since the 1400s, like over 600 years it seems, so that's why I put centuries instead of generations since I thought it also sounded cooler and more relevant. Sorry I messed up apparently. And the puffery, I didn't mean to add puffery, it wasn't my intention. It won't happen again sir, it only happened a few times thankfully, and I'll be sure not to make that mistake again. I forgot not to be biased, I was rushing some stuff because I'm desperate to get that extended confirmed thing today. If I wait for a month, I'm going to be bothered about it 24/7 the whole time. And you only complained about 6 edits I made out of 80 new ones, so yeah see most my edits there's not a problem with it, can I be trusted now. And before I hit 500 edits, most people didn't have a problem with the 400 edits I made, there was only like 2 warnings in 2 months. I'm here to build an encyclopedia and dedicated to this site. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 12:54, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Also why do you wanna block me indefinitely because I made few mistakes. You also when you didn't read my edit summary on El Chapo and thought I added unsourced info when it was sourced, everyone make mistakes, and the edits you did complain about, i only made a few mistakes out of like 90 new edits in 7 hours. I made good edits on Communism and LGBT rights, Sinners (2007 film), Tupac Shakur, Grandparent, and so many other pages, and a few editors even pressed the "thanks" button on my edits. And I promise these mistakes won't happen again, and me editing for 7 hours non-stop not going to sleep tonight not going to work, that should show I'm extremely dedicated to this website and you can trust me with extended confirmed status. When I first got extended confirmed status my edits on Hamas I think were constructive too. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 13:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- @HumansRightsIsCool: I might not have communicated clearly enough: please do not rush on this. I'm going to be honest with you, the sort of edits you've made aren't a good indicator that you would be able to edit constructively in these topic areas.
- You need to slow down significantly and gain a better understanding of our policies and guidelines. I get that you're here in good faith, and want to contribute to the site, but I don't think you would do well editing extended-confirmed topic areas currently. You could easily end up topic-banned, which is much harder to appeal compared to applying for extended-confirmed. I'm not going to give you a clear number of edits to make, or a clear time to wait, because if I do that it seems like you will try to game it, defeating the point. But it's going to take longer than a few days for you to get there. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- You're making edits like
He was considered to be one of the most powerful drug traffickers and murderers in the world
. Most powerful murderers in the world? Based on a source that saysin 2016 quietly dropped murder charges from the indictment
and a second that doesn't mention murder? You left inteaching existed since 1436
when copyediting, a statement that makes no sense in or out of context. Rushing to get edits is not the right way to do this, and regaining extended-confirmed isn't a matter of numbers, it's a matter of demonstrating that you understand how to contribute constructively and properly use sources, not take a glance at a headline and assume it will suffice. That is behavior that we block editors for. As far as your other edits, I haven't looked at all of them. I haven't even looked at all of your edits after I removed your permission, but almost everything I checked was not an improvement, or was clearly incorrect. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:32, 26 July 2024 (UTC)- @Elli if I wait a few days, that's going to be painful mentally, I bet it's going to bother me all day long 24/7. and out of the 80-90 edits I made, there was only problems with a few of them, most of my edits were constructive and some users thanked me for my edits. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 13:41, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ScottishFinnishRadish oh, didn't know know they dropped murder charges for El Chapo, i didn't see that part, I only read the paragraph where it says he got charged with murder. You know since I do make a few mistakes and I need to study Wikipedia rules a little more, I guess I can wait a few days to get extended confirmed access, but can you please put my edits back on Hamas so it won't hurt as bad mentally, if you add back my edits on Hamas I'll be really happy and satisfied HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 13:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Also why do you wanna block me indefinitely because I made few mistakes. You also when you didn't read my edit summary on El Chapo and thought I added unsourced info when it was sourced, everyone make mistakes, and the edits you did complain about, i only made a few mistakes out of like 90 new edits in 7 hours. I made good edits on Communism and LGBT rights, Sinners (2007 film), Tupac Shakur, Grandparent, and so many other pages, and a few editors even pressed the "thanks" button on my edits. And I promise these mistakes won't happen again, and me editing for 7 hours non-stop not going to sleep tonight not going to work, that should show I'm extremely dedicated to this website and you can trust me with extended confirmed status. When I first got extended confirmed status my edits on Hamas I think were constructive too. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 13:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Also you claim my edit about University of Greifswald was false when I said there's centuries of notable people that want to that school. There is, the article already says "generations of notable people", but the schools been around since the 1400s, like over 600 years it seems, so that's why I put centuries instead of generations since I thought it also sounded cooler and more relevant. Sorry I messed up apparently. And the puffery, I didn't mean to add puffery, it wasn't my intention. It won't happen again sir, it only happened a few times thankfully, and I'll be sure not to make that mistake again. I forgot not to be biased, I was rushing some stuff because I'm desperate to get that extended confirmed thing today. If I wait for a month, I'm going to be bothered about it 24/7 the whole time. And you only complained about 6 edits I made out of 80 new ones, so yeah see most my edits there's not a problem with it, can I be trusted now. And before I hit 500 edits, most people didn't have a problem with the 400 edits I made, there was only like 2 warnings in 2 months. I'm here to build an encyclopedia and dedicated to this site. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 12:54, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- With the Rucka Rucka Ali thing, I was trying to be fair to the Palestinians because the state of Israel and Palestine both claim Jerusalem as their capital city. As a person who's Jewish myself, I love everyone it doesn't matter if you're Arab, Jewish, Black, white, etc. my name is HumansRightsIsCool because I believe everyone is equal, I didn't know i broke a rule, there's so many rules on this site im sorry I'm bad at memorizing and reading everything. Also it is sourced that El Chapo was charged with murder, just scroll down on that page it says he was charged with murder in 1993, thats why I added it to the lead. And I don't know what an LLM is, but you're saying this thing called an LLM wrote stuff, I don't even know what that is and I've been writing stuff by myself all night. I have no friends helping me. Also you claim I'm falsifying sources,I only read the headline of the sources, I'm so tired I stayed up all night and I just assumed the sources were good so I can get back to editing because I'm extremely desperate to get extended confirmed access back. Notice how their was hardly any problems and barely any warnings before you took away my extended confirmed thing, I really wanna edit things I'm passionate about, but I can't because most pages I'm interested in require extended confirmed access. Please don't block me, I at least spent 7 hours trying to make good edits, hopefully that shows how dedicated I am to this website. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 12:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- What is looking more and more likely is that I'm going to block you indefinitely for falsifying sources and disruptive editing. This souce you added doesn't mention anything from that paragraph. This source doesn't mention Run DMC or Faces. This and this add puffery that could have been created by a LLM. There's this edit that makes the prose objectively worse and leaves in the obvious false statement, and this ECR violation. This adds content not supported by the source and this is not an improvement. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Question from Catulus900 on Onyeama Francis Okechukwu (19:30, 28 July 2024)
[edit]how can I upload my photo on my page --Catulus900 (talk) 19:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Catulus900: If you have a freely-licensed photo, you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons. However, you have to make sure the photo is available under an appropriate license. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Question from BernadettZul (03:49, 29 July 2024)
[edit]Hi Elli can we write short stories here? --BernadettZul (talk) 03:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- @BernadettZul: no; Wikipedia is not a place for personal writings. However, you could write an article about a short story, provided it is notable. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:01, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Question from Iblethebible (13:26, 30 July 2024)
[edit]Hi i've made an article which is accurate and i believe it to be worthy of wikipedia. There is a bbc citation which is obviously very reliable how do i upload it please --Iblethebible (talk) 13:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the block
[edit]Hi Elli. Thank you for blocking "I don't know what username to choose so yeah". Just a heads up -- the same editor (or a group of friends in real life, I don't know) keep making the same edit to the same article:
- Special:Contributions/Yepidoo-daw - sock?
- Special:Contributions/80.45.143.130
- Special:Contributions/78.86.161.152
- Special:Contributions/2001:BB6:1E55:9A00:AA4B:70ED:837D:1D04
- Special:Contributions/2A02:2121:62C:6F0:0:0:1A6E:CE60
- Special:Contributions/86.31.186.230
I requested page protection so that is pending. Saw you protected, thanks! Thank you! — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 00:40, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- @That Coptic Guy: I didn't block any but the most recent account as Yepidoo-daw technically hasn't violated sockpuppetry policy (assuming that is indeed their first account) and the account only vandalized once; and the IPs haven't hit any other articles, nor do I expect they'll become active again (seems to be an IP-hopper). Thanks for being vigilant here, though :) Elli (talk | contribs) 00:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of 2010 Oklahoma State Question 755
[edit]The article 2010 Oklahoma State Question 755 you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:2010 Oklahoma State Question 755 for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Thebiguglyalien -- Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:42, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Are u Ai assistant??! --EcoFlux (talk) 11:22, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Nope. I'm a real person. Elli (talk | contribs) 12:43, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Can you help me --Sur" 777 (talk) 12:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from Champion Doctor Thompson (22:18, 5 August 2024)
[edit]Hello, Sir. I am new to editing. Can I get any advice? --Champion Doctor Thompson (talk) 22:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from Himanshuy1 (02:33, 6 August 2024)
[edit]I want to write new articles. --Himanshuy1 (talk) 02:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi, I had someone from the foundation who wanted to talk to me about template parsing and I feel like you'd have a more interesting perspective than I do here. Courtesy ping to cscott. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ooh, yes, happy to discuss :) Elli (talk | contribs) 16:31, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm trying to get @Clovermoss to complain about ways that templates are broken so I can maybe fix them, but she keeps saying you know/complain about templates best. C. Scott Ananian (talk) 16:55, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Huh -- I do work with templates a decent amount but I haven't ran into any issues with how they've been implemented recently -- I do remember having some frustrations a few years ago but sadly I can't really remember what the problems were. If you have more specific questions you want my thoughts on though I'm happy to share. Elli (talk | contribs) 16:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well that's good news I guess from my perspective. I work on the wikitext parsing team so I know all sorts of wikitext ugliness but it's useful to get a reality check from time to time to figure out what things are causing the most pain in practice. Feel free to ping me if you turn up any critters you want investigated or squashed. C. Scott Ananian (talk) 17:19, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Cscott: Well Elli really does know infinitely more about templates than me. I'm glad to hear she doesn't have anything to complain about. I suppose my other suggestion would be to start a new thread over at Wikipedia:Village pump (WMF) as that's a slightly more centralized place. Introduce yourself, let people know about the work you do and how you're willing to listen and improve things :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:54, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well that's good news I guess from my perspective. I work on the wikitext parsing team so I know all sorts of wikitext ugliness but it's useful to get a reality check from time to time to figure out what things are causing the most pain in practice. Feel free to ping me if you turn up any critters you want investigated or squashed. C. Scott Ananian (talk) 17:19, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Huh -- I do work with templates a decent amount but I haven't ran into any issues with how they've been implemented recently -- I do remember having some frustrations a few years ago but sadly I can't really remember what the problems were. If you have more specific questions you want my thoughts on though I'm happy to share. Elli (talk | contribs) 16:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm trying to get @Clovermoss to complain about ways that templates are broken so I can maybe fix them, but she keeps saying you know/complain about templates best. C. Scott Ananian (talk) 16:55, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from AndaMasroor on User:AndaMasroor (07:49, 10 August 2024)
[edit]How do I create a citation? --AndaMasroor (talk) 07:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Hello, you protected this article, so how could Haseebchonari edit it? I don't understand. Jonteemil (talk) 17:54, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Jonteemil: the article is only semi-protected, and their account is autoconfirmed, which allowed them to edit it. Elli (talk | contribs) 14:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, how can they be autoconfirmed after only 22 edits? Are they really? Jonteemil (talk) 14:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Jonteemil: autoconfirmed only requires 10 edits. Elli (talk | contribs) 15:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh I see, can you set a protection that requires more than just 10 edits? Jonteemil (talk) 13:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Jonteemil: autoconfirmed only requires 10 edits. Elli (talk | contribs) 15:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, how can they be autoconfirmed after only 22 edits? Are they really? Jonteemil (talk) 14:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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Question from Imannie2030 on Heartland Alliance (21:25, 17 August 2024)
[edit]Could you please provide information on your programs and services? I'd appreciate guidance on the process and any requirements for seeking help? --Imannie2030 (talk) 21:25, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Imannie2030: hi. I'm an editor at Wikipedia; I'm not associated with Heartland Alliance so I can't help you with any of their programs or services. Sorry. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:37, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from Kartal Alışık (05:58, 18 August 2024)
[edit]New --Kartal Alışık (talk) 05:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from Buhle Olerato on Help:Getting started (10:13, 18 August 2024)
[edit]👋 hey.how will I create my own video --Buhle Olerato (talk) 10:13, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Hey
[edit]Can I have my extended confirmed thing back now. I made lots of edits the last 25 days and I think 99% of them are constructive. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 23:02, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from WikiPedian0036 (01:01, 21 August 2024)
[edit]Hi, Elli! How do I make a citation? --WikiPedian0036 (talk) 01:01, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) @WikiPedian0036: Help:Referencing for beginners offers guidance on how to make a citation. Left guide (talk) 02:18, 24 August 2024 (UTC)