User talk:Elli/Archive 15
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IP Block exemption requests
Hi Elli - Bumped into an IPBE request that you addressed in July. First, thank you for taking the initiative to do so; speaking as the checkuser who is currently working to clear the VRT backlog of requests, I really appreciate you stepping up. I know many admins are a bit uncomfortable doing so, and it occurred to me that as a checkuser team, we could probably provide more useful information to admins who are willing to go out on a limb a bit more.
Once I get through the backlog, I'm thinking about creating a bit of a cheat-sheet for admins who are considering granting IPBE so that we can be a bit more standard across the board. Things like what to check about the requesting user (clear block log, no worrying messages on talk pages especially copyvio messages), standard length of IPBE (even as checkusers, we rarely grant more than a 1-year IPBE, for first time requesters/newer users it may only be 3 or 6 months), and common issues that may lead to an IPBE grant. Also probably adding that, if a user has a prior IPBE grant and has not had any "red flags" or behavioural issues in the interim, they would probably be okay with a renewal for the same length of time. I was thinking that it might be a bit too far to include geographies where IPBE may be needed, as there might be a temptation to abuse that information, but other opinions on this might be helpful. Do you have any thoughts about this? What information would be helpful to you in deciding whether to grant an IPBE?
Just for the record, I did modify the IPBE grant you made from "indefinite" to one year (as it's our usual standard), but I'm really glad that you were able to help that user when the few CUs who manage the VRT requests were tied up with other things. Risker (talk) 03:26, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Risker: I think you may have misidentified me... it looks like Bearcat actually did the grant in question. However, I also happen to be interested in this, I was just indeed too shy to act in such situations. So I would be interested in such a cheat-sheet if you create it :) Elli (talk | contribs) 03:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).
- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past
. - A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
- Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
- Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
- The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
- Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
When user blocks obviate the need for protection
Re this: You can usually just use the "b" argument in {{RFPP}}, followed by the blocked user's name, IP or range, and then in the third argument the blocking admin, to indicate that a block has accomplished what was sought through protection. I usually add in text how long the block will be. Daniel Case (talk) 03:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks :) meant to use that template, but had temporarily forgotten it... Elli (talk | contribs) 20:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Grickerd (04:12, 30 August 2024)
Just checking in to say hello.
I am a long time Wikipedia consumer and monthly financial contributor.
Retired, with a background in STEM and technical writing.
Not yet ready to edit, but if there are contributions to make within my scope, I'm ready to help. --Grickerd (talk) 04:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Grickerd: hi! Just let me know if you have any questions. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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- News from the WMF: Meet the 12 candidates running in the WMF Board of Trustees election
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Question from AndaMasroor on User:AndaMasroor (07:49, 10 August 2024)
How do I create a citation? --AndaMasroor (talk) 07:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Question from Mukundane Darious Kigundu (07:13, 10 September 2024)
Formulas of Microsoft Excel --Mukundane Darious Kigundu (talk) 07:13, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mukundane Darious Kigundu: hi; is there anything Wikipedia-related you'd like help with? I can't really help you with Microsoft Excel. Elli (talk | contribs) 14:50, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Ibriaid8eu (19:23, 17 September 2024)
Yo wag1 --Ibriaid8eu (talk) 19:23, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from WarriorofWord (22:43, 17 September 2024)
How do I create a new page? --WarriorofWord (talk) 22:43, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from AndrewWSHutchinson (18:01, 12 September 2024)
Hi - I just created an account to do a specific edit, and I'm not sure what the process is. I was planning on creating a topic on the "Talk" section before making any changes, since I'm brand new at this, but are there other procedures I should follow? --AndrewWSHutchinson (talk) 18:01, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @AndrewWSHutchinson: hi and thanks for reaching out. In general you're actually advised to just be bold and make the edit, but asking on talk is a good idea if you expect it might be contentious. There is nothing else you have to do. Elli (talk | contribs) 05:32, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Help move
Hi, I have requested on Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests, but it takes too long to move, I don't know who to ask, can you help me? Rafael Ronen 05:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Rafael Ronen: I think those moves are something that would likely benefit from more discussion or at least explanation (of why the titles are an improvement) first. RMTR is usually for obvious things; you might want to open a requested move where you bundle all the relevant pages and explain the rationale for moving. Elli (talk | contribs) 06:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Elli: Greece's Next Top Model season 1 and Greece's Next Top Model season 2 has been changed, only 3-5 haven't changed, the reason I want is to move quickly so I can edit the blue link in the related article Rafael Ronen 07:12, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Kimon fioretos (10:47, 18 September 2024)
Clarification on Link Removal and Tone of Feedback Regarding Demidov Contribution
Hello I recently made an addition to the Nikolai Vasilievich Demidov Wikipedia page, including a reference to the International Demidov Association, specifically linking to a page about Andrei Malaev-Babel and the Assotiation (the link in the page are dead). Malaev-Babel is a well-regarded expert on Demidov’s techniques and has been instrumental in preserving and promoting these methods through his work as a professor and as a leader within the association. The link I included was removed, and the editor, APK, left a message stating that my contribution "did not appear constructive," with an utterly insulting suggestion to "experiment" in my sandbox next time.
While I understand the importance of ensuring Wikipedia maintains high standards, I found the tone of the feedback somewhat dismissive and not conducive to constructive dialogue. I believe that Malaev-Babel’s contributions are highly relevant to understanding Demidov’s legacy, and the link provides verifiable information on his work and influence. Could someone help clarify why the link might have been considered inappropriate, and how I can reintroduce this important information properly? Is there a more appropriate way to cite this source or explain Malaev-Babel’s significance in the article? I’d appreciate any guidance on how to handle this situation and ensure that the content meets Wikipedia’s standards. Thank you so much for your help! Best regards, kimon Fioretos
ps should i stop using my real name because APK tone was inna[ropriate and scary --Kimon fioretos (talk) 10:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Kimon fioretos (14:22, 18 September 2024)
I hope you're well. I would like to ask for your guidance regarding a recent interaction I had with an editor (APK) while contributing to the Nikolai Vasilievich Demidov page. I attempted to add information about the significant role Andrei Malaev-Babel plays in preserving Demidov’s techniques, but I unintentionally removed a Commons link. This led to a misunderstanding, and I wish to formally apologize to APK.
APK, in good faith, advised me to use the sandbox. However, because the link appeared in red (not leading anywhere), I misread the suggestion as an innuendo to “mind my own business.” When APK later sent the sandbox link in blue, I realized that the sandbox is an actual tool and not an insult (as in "go play in your sandbox"). In retrospect, I still can’t understand how I managed to misinterpret the situation, but I sent APK several misguided messages, and I now feel quite embarrassed.
Could you advise me on how to frame a proper apology and how to move forward in a constructive way? I also understand that my additions might need refinement, so I would appreciate it if you could guide me on how to send my contributions to someone more experienced with the page, allowing them to integrate the information appropriately.
Additionally, I would like to change my username or even leave Wikipedia, as I don't feel capable of contributing in a meaningful way, as has been clearly demonstrated. Could you help me with this issue as well?
Thank you in advance for your help. I want to ensure I approach this respectfully and in line with Wikipedia's standards.
Best regards, Kimon Fioretos --Kimon fioretos (talk) 14:22, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Kimon fioretos: thanks for reaching out. I think your apology that you've left is probably about all that can be done. We all make mistakes when we start out editing, and I wouldn't worry too much about this; it's just a good lesson to maybe assume a bit more good faith of others before reacting negatively. Also, just so you know, links that are red are that way because they link to a page that currently doesn't exist; your sandbox (at User:Kimon fioretos/sandbox) is currently one of them. Plenty of experienced editors use sandboxes for various things too (such as when making a particularly complex edit), though they aren't necessary to use.
- Please let me know if you have more questions. I hope you don't leave the site; again, we all make mistakes but I think you can definitely be a valuable contributor here. Elli (talk | contribs) 15:28, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Tallest Buildings in Allentown, Pa
Statistics on Allentown, Pa buildings that are 9 stories or greater WarriorofWord (talk) 22:02, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @WarriorofWord: hi; I'm not sure how I can help you with this? The relevant info, if we have it, is probably in Buildings and architecture of Allentown, Pennsylvania, which I see you've been editing. Elli (talk | contribs) 05:33, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- So… major cities have a page with the heading "Tallest Buildings in _____". It is specific to BUILDINGS and not a broader subject of ARCHITECTURE (which, in addition to buildings, would include churches, statues, etc.) Allentown is the 3rd largest city in PA (population of about 120,00) and is currently constructing new high rise buildings and has two proposed skyscrapers on the table. I thought it would be appropriate for Allentown to have a page designated to the specific topic of BUILDINGS, as do other major cities. WarriorofWord (talk) 11:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @WarriorofWord: ah, you could probably create such a page then. You can look at Category:Lists of tallest buildings in the United States by populated place to find comparable pages to model it off of. Elli (talk | contribs) 15:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you sir! WarriorofWord (talk) 16:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @WarriorofWord: ah, you could probably create such a page then. You can look at Category:Lists of tallest buildings in the United States by populated place to find comparable pages to model it off of. Elli (talk | contribs) 15:30, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- So… major cities have a page with the heading "Tallest Buildings in _____". It is specific to BUILDINGS and not a broader subject of ARCHITECTURE (which, in addition to buildings, would include churches, statues, etc.) Allentown is the 3rd largest city in PA (population of about 120,00) and is currently constructing new high rise buildings and has two proposed skyscrapers on the table. I thought it would be appropriate for Allentown to have a page designated to the specific topic of BUILDINGS, as do other major cities. WarriorofWord (talk) 11:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Peacehappinesslove (18:53, 19 September 2024)
Hello Elli, how do I go about moving my published page from the sandbox to an live article? --Peacehappinesslove (talk) 18:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from EGGLIOT EGG (12:19, 20 September 2024)
Heya mentor i wanna know how do u get barnstars and those banners saying this editor is from this country. Etc --EGGLIOT EGG (talk) 12:19, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @EGGLIOT EGG: hi; I think WP:Barnstars and WP:Userboxes should explain this. Please let me know if you have any more questions. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Reshma27 (08:21, 23 September 2024)
I want to write an article on the Wikipedia. Can you please help me for that --Reshma27 (talk) 08:21, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Reshma27: Help:Your first article should help you get started. Please let me know if you have any particular questions? Elli (talk | contribs) 03:40, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Mohsin H. Shawkat (03:39, 24 September 2024)
I am a writer. I would like to make my own page in Wikipedia. This is the main reason for making account. Off course I use Wikipedia usually. I donated to your site with small amount of money just to say thank you. Greetings Mohsin H. Shawkat --Mohsin H. Shawkat (talk) 03:39, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mohsin H. Shawkat: hi and thanks for reaching out. It's strongly discouraged to write a page about yourself, or about any other subject you'd have a conflict of interest with. You can request someone else create a page for you at requested articles, though it's likely to take a while. Please let me know if you have any further questions. (And thank you for donating.) Elli (talk | contribs) 03:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
I want to add an article about a new art. How can i possible to publish?
how it works? Reshma27 (talk) 03:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Reshma27: I'm not sure exactly what you are asking here? Elli (talk | contribs) 03:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Request for rationale
What is the rationale for the block on Urburang? Sweet6970 (talk) 14:50, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Sweet6970: they're pretty clearly Architect 134. Probably should've included that in the block reason. Elli (talk | contribs) 16:14, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for that information. Sweet6970 (talk) 18:03, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Glad I could clarify :) Elli (talk | contribs) 18:58, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for that information. Sweet6970 (talk) 18:03, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 26 September 2024
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One of them, an SPA
Hi Elli, could you help block this SPA who just recently created Draft:Jishnu raghavan, and with the same information as the deleted one. The user name, an IP, is User:2409:40F4:1013:2BE6:E96A:1E26:C0AC:9706 Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @SafariScribe: yes, I've blocked them temporarily (tho IPs can't really be SPAs by definition since they aren't accounts at all). Elli (talk | contribs) 06:13, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Below very much on John B. Minor (07:15, 27 September 2024)
This man is so good and bitch --Below very much (talk) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Hi admin @Elli, why did you "unmarked as reviewed" the article I made after moving it to mainspace? 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 13:45, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @98Tigerius I was moving the article as a procedural action on behalf of another user. Since I'm autopatrolled, pages I move to mainspace automatically become marked as reviewed. I wasn't actually conducting a review of your article, though, and I didn't feel like doing so at the time, so I marked it as unreviewed. Hope that clears things up; it's not anything negative about your article. Elli (talk | contribs) 15:52, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Elli Thanks for the clarification. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 19:21, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Safa Khulusi
Hi, Elli. I hope I'm wrong, but I very much suspect that you are being over-optimistic in protecting the article for six months, since the same editor has been disruptively editing it at least since 2011. (I haven't checked further back than that.) 😒 JBW (talk) 19:07, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @JBW: I wouldn't mind extending semiprotection longer or a switch to indef PC, since this seems like the sort of thing that pending changes could help sort out, if it's really that long-term. Up to you in either case. Elli (talk | contribs) 19:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- I hadn't thought of PC. I usually don't consider it, because in my experience it usually isn't very helpful, but this may be one of the occasions when it is helpful. JBW (talk) 21:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
A question for my talkpage watchers (and anyone else)
It's been almost four months since I've RfA'd, so I'm curious... how do y'all think I'm doing? If there's any feedback you have for me, positive or negative, I'd like to know. Feel free to email me or message me on Discord if you don't feel comfortable sharing publicly. Elli (talk | contribs) 01:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- You're getting my fresh and un-researched impression. I've seen your name attached to a lot of admin actions, and I'm impressed by how active you are. I can't recall a single such action, so it's unlikely any of them have struck me as nearing or passing the line of admin discretion. Hope you keep doing what you're doing! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:00, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you especially for getting involved with unblock requests! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:39, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Firefangledfeathers: thanks for the thanks and your words of support :) It's definitely an area of the project that most admins understandably stay away from, but I find it pretty important -- so I'm doing my best. Hopefully we can get the backlog down to something reasonable eventually... Elli (talk | contribs) 15:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm honestly happy to see it down to just two digits. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Firefangledfeathers: thanks for the thanks and your words of support :) It's definitely an area of the project that most admins understandably stay away from, but I find it pretty important -- so I'm doing my best. Hopefully we can get the backlog down to something reasonable eventually... Elli (talk | contribs) 15:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you especially for getting involved with unblock requests! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:39, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Question from Jpurcell13 (21:37, 28 September 2024)
i din't understand what this is? --Jpurcell13 (talk) 21:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Jpurcell13: I'm not sure what you mean by "this" either, but if you have any questions about Wikipedia, feel free to ask me :) Elli (talk | contribs) 23:41, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from เกี่ยวข้าว (08:30, 1 October 2024)
Hhngyju --เกี่ยวข้าว (talk) 08:30, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Question from Manish MK Kala on MultiDark (05:24, 2 October 2024)
hello, how can i add a page refrence in this article. --Manish MK Kala (talk) 05:24, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Manish MK Kala: hi; Help:Referencing should explain it. Feel free to let me know if you have more questions :) Elli (talk | contribs) 17:38, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2024).
- Administrator elections are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to requests for adminship (RfA). The first trial election will take place in October 2024, with candidate sign-up from October 8 to 14, a discussion phase from October 22 to 24, and SecurePoll voting from October 25 to 31. For questions or to help out, please visit the talk page at Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections.
- Following a discussion, the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion G8 to F2. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
- A request for comment is open to discuss whether there is a consensus to have an administrator recall process.
- The arbitration case Historical elections has been closed.
- An arbitration case regarding Backlash to diversity and inclusion has been opened.
- Editors are invited to nominate themselves to serve on the 2024 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until 23:59 October 8, 2024 (UTC).
- If you are interested in stopping spammers, please put MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist and MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist on your watchlist, and help out when you can.
A beer for you!
Thanks for dealing with the UK opinion polling page, it's made the addition of legitimate polls a lot easier now we're not dealing with an edit war! CipherRephic (talk) 17:56, 5 October 2024 (UTC) |
Hello, Elli,
The JJMC90 bot moved the category Category:Cc-by-sa-3.0,2.5,2.0,1.0 files but didn't move the contents of the category over to the new one, Category:Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0–3.0 files. Can you check on this? Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 23:07, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Liz I think this is a job queue issue, but I'll check again when I'm back at my laptop. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:24, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
- Update: looks to be resolved. Elli (talk | contribs) 12:39, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
A racecar for you!
A racecar for you! | |
Great to see you again at WCNA :) (Next year: Magic tourney. It has to happen.) Accedie (talk) 15:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC) |
- @Accedie: thanks! I enjoyed getting to see you again as well :) and yeah, I'll bring my cards if I can remember (though I haven't actually played since... early high school? so not exactly gonna be tournament-legal decks). Elli (talk | contribs) 00:40, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
Category:121st United States Congress has been nominated for deletion
Category:121st United States Congress has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. AusLondonder (talk) 22:27, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Nice to meet you
...Elli the adminstrator. We are the academics that work on citations and WP:VERIFY compliance in the English, German, and other WP encyclopedias, and that you recently engaged constructively at Wikimedia (where we'd suggested correction of an image title, based on the image content and translation of the accompanying Hebrew image information). Thank you for respecting our work. It is a pleasure to engage others that contribute, and that do not look askance at us because we choose not to log. With regard, we are [Eutychus Window]. 73.110.70.231 (talk) 13:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Question from Below very much (07:43, 13 October 2024)
I don't really know forgive me Neh --Below very much (talk) 07:43, 13 October 2024 (UTC)