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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 19

wikimedia-gadgets

Hi Galobtter, I saw that you accepted my invitation to wikimedia-gadgets. This is an informal GitHub org created as a centralised place to host gadgets (per 1140). If you wish, you can transfer shortdesc-helper and any other gadgets you may have written over here. Benefits? Continued maintenance even if you were to go inactive. – SD0001 (talk) 21:32, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Moved the three gadgets I have there! Seems like a good initiative. Galobtter (pingó mió) 22:24, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!

Hello Galobtter, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2021.
Happy editing,

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2020).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • By motion, standard discretionary sanctions have been temporarily authorized for all pages relating to the Horn of Africa (defined as including Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and adjoining areas if involved in related disputes). The effectiveness of the discretionary sanctions can be evaluated on the request by any editor after March 1, 2021 (or sooner if for a good reason).
  • Following the 2020 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Barkeep49, BDD, Bradv, CaptainEek, L235, Maxim, Primefac.

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2021).

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 20

Galobot request

Hi Galobtter! I do not know the magnitude of this request. I am requesting a change for the womeninreddrafts task. Currently it checks Category:AfC submissions declined as a non-notable biography, but there is also women who are in a different category, Category:AfC submissions declined as a non-notable academic topic that seems to exclusively contain academic people. As of 11 February 2021, this category has about 360 items. Is there away to include this in the womeninreddrafts code? If so, would you please take care of it when you have time? Peaceray (talk) 05:21, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Good to see people are stilling using the page. Will do. Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:00, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@Peaceray: Done. Let me know if there are any issues. Galobtter's sock (talk) 03:08, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021).

Administrator changes

added TJMSmith
removed Boing! said ZebedeeHiberniantearsLear's FoolOnlyWGFinley

Interface administrator changes

added AmandaNP

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • When blocking an IPv6 address with Twinkle, there is now a checkbox with the option to just block the /64 range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.
  • When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at WP:RfPP, and even link to the specific revision.
  • There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (phab:T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (phab:T275322).

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Recent changes to the short description gadget

Hey. I saw that the MediaWiki:Gadget-Shortdesc-helper.js is now at version 3.4.17 - would you mind adding a summary of the changes from 3.4.15 to 3.4.17 to the next issue of Scripts++ (Wikipedia:Scripts++/Next)? Or you can just tell me and I'll add them. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:02, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

DannyS712, looks like there's two entries for Shortdesc helper. TBH it's all just minor bug fixes so I don't really see that it needs to be announced, but the changes are 'fixing the handling of "none" descriptions and preventing edits that don't change the description'. Galobtter (pingó mió) 00:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks DannyS712 (talk) 00:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).

Administrator changes

removed AlexandriaHappyme22RexxS

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
  • Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.

Technical news

  • When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
  • Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)

Arbitration


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Undelete request

Hi there any chance you can undelete the templates deleted via this discussion? I found these were deleted as I'm in the process of recreating the content for use on Draft:List of international medallists in men's 100 metres and List of African Championships in Athletics medalists (men). Thanks. SFB 11:54, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

DRV instructions change

Hi Galobtter, hope you are well. Was looking to make a minor (yet bold) change to the Wikipedia:Deletion review/Discussions page to require nominators to inform not only XfD closers (admins or non-admins), but also speedy deletion admins if the page was speedy'd. I quickly flicked through the history and noticed that you copyedited out this change a few years ago (diff). Just looking to get a feeling for the purpose behind the change from your end, and your thoughts on potentially readding it to cover notification of administrators who speedy a page that is nominated. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 00:06, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Daniel, I think I was generally fixing the wording to handle NACs. No objection to your change. Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:47, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:37, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Ah, re-implementations

Module:Preview warning message, Module:Preview warning, and now I've merged the latter to Module:If preview (except it's not broken if no text is provided to the warning) and will be removing its uses accordingly, per a new discussion at MediaWiki talk:Common.css#Preview warning and hatnotes moving to TemplateStyles. Would you mind WP:G7ing your version and styles? --Izno (talk) 19:43, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2021).

Administrator changes

removed EnchanterCarlossuarez46

Interface administrator changes

removed Ragesoss

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The user group oversight will be renamed to suppress. This is for technical reasons. You can comment at T112147 if you have objections.

Arbitration


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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 21

Administrators' newsletter – June 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2021).

Administrator changes

added AshleyyoursmileLess Unless
removed HusondMattWadeMJCdetroitCariocaVague RantKingboykThunderboltzGwen GaleAniMateSlimVirgin (deceased)

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Wikimedia previously used the IRC network Freenode. However, due to changes over who controlled the network with reports of a forceful takeover by several ex-staff members, the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts decided to move to the new Libera Chat network. It has been reported that Wikimedia related channels on Freenode have been forcibly taken over if they pointed members to Libera. There is a migration guide and Wikimedia discussions about this.

Arbitration


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Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
  • An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

Technical news

  • IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

Arbitration


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Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello Galobtter:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is currently a backlog of over 2600 articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!

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Draft Review

Hey! I find some draft articles about crypto mooving. So I am regarding for the possible help and reviewing! Halakievsk (talk) 12:01, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

Technical news

  • Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


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Shortdesc helper summaries

Hi Galobtter! I know you've been fairly inactive lately, but I was wondering if you might be able to follow up at the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Shortdesc helper#Adding custom edit summaries, which has now been pending for several months. It's important that this issue be resolved within a reasonable time frame to prevent further wasted editor effort, and if you do not anticipate having the time to do so, it's important that you transfer maintenance of the shortdesc helper to someone more active. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}}talk 19:47, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes

readded Jake Wartenberg
removed EmperorViridian Bovary
renamed AshleyyoursmileViridian Bovary

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Reply-link officially superseded by DiscussionTools

Hi! Reply-link has officially been superseded by mw:DiscussionTools, which you can install using the "Discussion tools" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. DiscussionTools, developed by the WMF's Editing Team, is faster and has more features than reply-link, and it wouldn't make sense for me to keep developing reply-link. I think the Editing Team is doing amazing work, and look forward to what they can do in the future. Thank you for using reply-link over the years! Enterprisey (talk!) 06:11, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

afc

hello galobtter! you going to have to excuse my english as it is not native language, but i made article in afc here User:SandroFan91/sandbox/Verdis and was questioning if more should be added or wait for approve. is there enough reference for this small article? i had help from someone who translate a lot of it for me. the article is protected by spammer who thought it was referenced enough at that time so i had make draft in my sandbox with most recent articles i find.

p.s. i found a reference from russian state news (which is where i heard of verdis) but it not let me post. https://rs.sputniknews.com/20210919/za-liberland-su-mnogi-culi-ali-izmedju-srbije-i-hrvatske-je-nikla-jos-jedna-drzava-1129955656.html - know why? thanks for help! SandroFan91 (talk) 02:34, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

your IADMIN flag

Hello Galobtter, in accordance with the int-admin policy your IAdmin flag has been removed for inactivity in interface administration areas for over 6 months. (Criteria 1). This will have no impact on your administrator flag or access. Should you require this access again in the future, you may request reinstatement at WP:BN. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 01:20, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
  • Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
  • The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.

Miscellaneous

  • Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
  • The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:03, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

RfA 2021 review update

Thanks so much for participating in Phase 1 of the RfA 2021 review. 8 out of the 21 issues discussed were found to have consensus. Thanks to our closers of Phase 1, Primefac and Wugapodes.

The following had consensus support of participating editors:

  1. Corrosive RfA atmosphere
    The atmosphere at RfA is deeply unpleasant. This makes it so fewer candidates wish to run and also means that some members of our community don't comment/vote.
  2. Level of scrutiny
    Many editors believe it would be unpleasant to have so much attention focused on them. This includes being indirectly a part of watchlists and editors going through your edit history with the chance that some event, possibly a relatively trivial event, becomes the focus of editor discussion for up to a week.
  3. Standards needed to pass keep rising
    It used to be far easier to pass RfA however the standards necessary to pass have continued to rise such that only "perfect" candidates will pass now.
  4. Too few candidates
    There are too few candidates. This not only limits the number of new admin we get but also makes it harder to identify other RfA issues because we have such a small sample size.
  5. "No need for the tools" is a poor reason as we can find work for new admins

The following issues had a rough consensus of support from editors:

  1. Lifetime tenure (high stakes atmosphere)
    Because RfA carries with it lifetime tenure, granting any given editor sysop feels incredibly important. This creates a risk adverse and high stakes atmosphere.
  2. Admin permissions and unbundling
    There is a large gap between the permissions an editor can obtain and the admin toolset. This brings increased scrutiny for RFA candidates, as editors evaluate their feasibility in lots of areas.
  3. RfA should not be the only road to adminship
    Right now, RfA is the only way we can get new admins, but it doesn't have to be.

Please consider joining the brainstorming which will last for the next 1-2 weeks. This will be followed by Phase 2, a 30 day discussion to consider solutions to the problems identified in Phase 1.


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Prosesize

Hi -- I see you're the author of WP:PROSESIZE. I am getting odd results with it; this page, for example, says it's only 49 bytes prose size. Do you have any idea what might be going wrong? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:54, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I think the script is really only intended for normally formatted articles. That page has a ton of bullets, and almost all sections are wrapped in div tags. I am pretty sure that the script does not try to count words wrapped by that sort of formatting. The text that the script counts is highlighted in yellow; if you go to Michael Jordan, for example, and run the script, you will see that text inside bulleted lists, image captions, the infobox, the reference list, navboxes, and other similarly wrapped text is not highlighted or counted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:56, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the note. That makes sense, but it's a pity because (unless I'm misremembering) the old Dr. pda script used to cope with this. Would it be technically difficult to modify the script to cope with this sort of layout? I tried selecting the body of the page and pasting it into MS Word, and got a character count of 892,863. That would probably do as a workaround if there's no other way to do this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:44, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
That's what I do. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:17, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:24, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
I doubt the old script handled that since I'm pretty sure I didn't change the algorithm for finding the words on the page. Galobtter (pingó mió) 22:26, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
I'll take your word for it, but something did handle it -- perhaps an earlier version of Dr. pda's script. I know because I spent some time a few years ago recording a couple of hundred FAC archive page sizes for statistical analysis, and I can't reproduce those numbers now. For example, this page I have logged as 1.799Mb, but none of the numbers the script produces now is anything close to that. So it's a mystery. I can use the MS Word workaround, so I have an option, but if you or a TPS know anything that can do a prose size calculation without the extra steps that would be quicker. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 09:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

RfA Reform 2021 Phase 2 has begun

Following a 2 week brainstorming period and a 1 week proposal period, the 30 day discussion of changes to our Request for Adminship process has begun. Following feedback on Phase 1, in order to ensure that the largest number of people possible can see all proposals, new proposals will only be accepted for the for the first 7 days of Phase 2. The 30 day discussion is scheduled to last until November 30. Please join the discussion or even submit your own proposal.

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16:13, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Phase 2 of the 2021 RfA review has commenced which will discuss potential solutions to address the 8 issues found in Phase 1. Proposed solutions that achieve consensus will be implemented and you may propose solutions till 07 November 2021.

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:44, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Request on 23:28:25, 12 November 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Rmasero


I have added some more references that I can find online. Thanks

Rmasero (talk) 23:28, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox/biography-styles.css

Template:Infobox/biography-styles.css has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Q28 hope you pay attention to TFD 02:01, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2021).

Administrator changes

removed A TrainBerean HunterEpbr123GermanJoeSanchomMysid

Technical news

  • Unregistered editors using the mobile website are now able to receive notices to indicate they have talk page messages. The notice looks similar to what is already present on desktop, and will be displayed on when viewing any page except mainspace and when editing any page. (T284642)
  • The limit on the number of emails a user can send per day has been made global instead of per-wiki to help prevent abuse. (T293866)

Arbitration



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Administrators will no longer be autopatrolled

A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2022!

Hello Galobtter, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2022.
Happy editing,

Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 16:04, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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WP:MEDRS

Hi. I came across now archived Village pump#MEDRS talk and wanted to let you know that I too faced instanced of misapplication of WP:MEDRS guideline but I haven't a chance to comment on. I suggest you to take a look at this ANI#Canvassing_in_Malassezia request and visit the Wikipedia_talk:Identifying_reliable_sources_(medicine)#Primary_sources_usage. I suggest you to put the latter on your watch list (but please leave no comment in there as the proposal is rather poor). Thanks!

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 22

RFA 2021 Completed

The 2021 re-examination of RFA has been completed. 23 (plus 2 variants) ideas were proposed. Over 200 editors participated in this final phase. Three changes gained consensus and two proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration. Thanks to all who helped to close the discussion, and in particular Primefac, Lee Vilenski, and Ymblanter for closing the most difficult conversations and for TonyBallioni for closing the review of one of the closes.

The following proposals gained consensus and have all been implemented:

  1. Revision of standard question 1 to Why are you interested in becoming an administrator? Special thanks to xaosflux for help with implementation.
  2. A new process, Administrative Action Review (XRV) designed to review if an editor's specific use of an advanced permission, including the admin tools, is consistent with policy in a process similar to that of deletion review and move review. Thanks to all the editors who contributed (and are continuing to contribute) to the discussion of how to implement this proposal.
  3. Removal of autopatrol from the administrator's toolkit. Special thanks to Wugapodes and Seddon for their help with implementation.

The following proposals were identified by the closers as having the potential to gain consensus with some further discussion and iteration:

  1. An option for people to run for temporary adminship (proposal, discussion, & close)
  2. An optional election process (proposal & discussion and close review & re-close)

Editors who wish to discuss these ideas or other ideas on how to try to address any of the six issues identified during phase 1 for which no proposal gained are encouraged to do so at RFA's talk page or an appropriate village pump.

A final and huge thanks all those who participated in this effort to improve our RFA process over the last 4 months.


This is the final update with no further talk page messages planned.

01:46, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Multi-column TOC/base.css

Template:Multi-column TOC/base.css has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 14:26, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following consensus at the 2021 RfA review, the autopatrolled user right has been removed from the administrators user group; admins can grant themselves the autopatrolled permission if they wish to remain autopatrolled.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • The functionaries email list (functionaries-en@lists.wikimedia.org) will no longer accept incoming emails apart from those sent by list members and WMF staff. Private concerns, apart from those requiring oversight, should be directly sent to the Arbitration Committee.

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How we will see unregistered users

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18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Please have a look at the coding...

for the bot that you have interest in, that places the tag that says "possible unreferenced addition to BLP". It seems to tag based (i) on the facts that the editor is unlogged, and (ii) based on the number of lines of content.

Last things first. First, such a tag should not appear when placing a section cleanup tag—as happened today at David Leon. Also, if a person moves sections around, adding no content (which was done at Thomas Bartlett Whitaker), the tag should not be triggered.

[That last article is litany of bot misfires—the bot must have been triggered a dozen times when I was rewriting that article, editing that was all about removing bad references (written by the convict and his father), and about restructuring the article. Sections were moved around, tags were added (inline, sections, etc.), new content with citations were added. But no new content was added to the BLP without citations, period. And yet the bot was repeatedly triggered. A time-waste for all involved.]

Second, you should figure out a way to code the tag more specifically, so that it does not have to target good, dedicated, high quality non-logging editors. I am a professional, a former academic, and have more edits and more time here than most other editors. But, I choose not to log, reasons being professional and practical (and privacy oriented)—and this is a right of this place, since the days of its founding, a right that Jimmy Wales et al insisted upon, and so a right that I claim. So, I ask and challenge—make bots that misfire less against good, solid editors. Against vandalism yes! (Which, by the way, is often short, and so lengthening the number of characters the bot catches does not help.) But against someone moving sections, adding tags, etc.,—no, not just for that.

Bottom line, further better coding should be done so that the false positives against good editors stop. 2601:246:C700:558:B570:1ABD:DED3:A5DE (talk) 21:26, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

I think you're on the wrong talk page. That latter article was edited by User:XLinkBot; you may want to address the bot's edits on its talk page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:33, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) No, they're talking about the edit filter (686 (hist · log)), last modified by Galobtter, that tagged their edit. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:40, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
IP, all the filter did was tag your edit for further review. It didn't disallow anything. The tag says "possible" because a filter like this can never be made perfect. Personally, I'd rather err on the side of more false positives for a filter like this. A BLP vio is sometimes a serious issue that negatively affects real people in the real world. A spurious tag is not. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:40, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Thank you all for the replies. We beg to differ on this matter, because there are many and varied operations in place to detect and correct vandalism—and it is no faint praise coming from me to say that it is one of areas in which WP is at its finest. But as a data and metrics guy, professionally, and one with an academic background (that is, in studying phenomena of various sorts), I would say that WP does not have a handle on (does not have metrics for, and so cannot track) how many IP editors with solid credentials have tested the utility of spending some part of their their professional time here, in public service, only to run into any of a wide variety of situations that simply waste precious time, in particular and relevant here, being misidentified as a vandal. (This happened via bot in an edit I did of late, at Thomas Bartlett Whitaker, where I was correcting the use of self- and family-published content at that page to supply biographical content on the title BLP subject.) The opportunity cost of effort expended toward no achieved editorial end is everything to professionals that stop in and add their expertise. You lose more than you know, in every such editor that you "turn off", and misidentifying editors on the basis of numbers of characters added (which is, in part, what the one of the relevant bots here does) seems like taking a Bowie knife to a situation that calls for a scalpel. That is, if expertise (and the accompanying awareness of the preciousness of time spent on an effort) is something wanted here, still. Cheers, all the best, and HNY. 2601:246:C700:558:B570:1ABD:DED3:A5DE (talk) 05:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).

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  • The user group oversight will be renamed suppress in around 3 weeks. This will not affect the name shown to users and is simply a change in the technical name of the user group. The change is being made for technical reasons. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections.
  • The Reply Tool feature, which is a part of Discussion Tools, will be opt-out for everyone logged in or logged out starting 7 February 2022. Editors wishing to comment on this can do so in the relevant Village Pump discussion.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:01, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Report modification request

Hey there! Sorry to bother you. In the User:Galobot/report/Articles by Lint Errors report, can you please exclude the new "Special:LintErrors/inline-media-caption" error? Its implementation was poorly thought out, and it is likely to be reverted soon. We have been told to ignore it for now. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:41, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

There's a new linter feature to list all the errors for a specific page now, so just wondering if you could update the report to include a link to that if you have time? An example is below. Thanks. -- WOSlinker (talk) 11:08, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
I'll see when i can. @Jonesey95 Does your change still need to be done? Galobtter (pingó mió) 04:00, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
No. That inline-media-caption error tracking has been reverted from the MediaWiki code. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:05, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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WP:AFC Helper News

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

  • AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
  • The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Short description count

Hi Galobtter, I hope you are doing well. Do you know of any reasonably simple way of counting the number of short descriptions contributed by a specified editor? Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 08:35, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Assuming they were added using SDH, then I guess searching through edit summaries for "(Shortdesc helper)" would be the way to go to, which can be done 5000 edits at a time. I guess it would be good for SDH to add a tag for its edits which makes it easier to filter through its edits. Galobtter (pingó mió) 23:00, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, but not so simple then, Cheers,· · · Peter Southwood (talk): 15:53, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2022

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:46, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

"Russia Sanctions" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Russia Sanctions and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 7#Russia Sanctions until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion.

The same goes for Russia sanctions. Sdrqaz (talk) 22:36, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2022

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  • Access to Special:RevisionDelete has been expanded to include users who have the deletelogentry and deletedhistory rights. This means that those in the Researcher user group and Checkusers who are not administrators can now access Special:RevisionDelete. The users able to view the special page after this change are the 3 users in the Researcher group, as there are currently no checkusers who are not already administrators. (T301928)
  • When viewing deleted revisions or diffs on Special:Undelete a back link to the undelete page for the associated page is now present. (T284114)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

New administrator activity requirement

The administrator policy has been updated with new activity requirements following a successful Request for Comment.

Beginning January 1, 2023, administrators who meet one or both of the following criteria may be desysopped for inactivity if they have:

  1. Made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least a 12-month period OR
  2. Made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period

Administrators at risk for being desysopped under these criteria will continue to be notified ahead of time. Thank you for your continued work.

22:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Precious
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Precious anniversary

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2022

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Please read the articel before reverting and understand what WP:SYNTH is.

Hey, you just reverted information that was included under a section about covid disinformation on Turning Point USA in error to make the content breach WP:SYNTH. You reverted it back stating:

"very first source says "But the communications by Turning Point USA and its affiliate, Turning Point Action", the sources definitely discuss TP USA and not just kirk"

It seems that just because you see the words Turning Point USA in the article you want to tag it along with all the other information in the "Covid 19 disinformation" section. Which is actually not stated anywhere in any article besides that sub-headline. The information you put back in doesnt actually seem relevent? The article (which your edit summary credits to stay) says:

But the communications by Turning Point USA and its affiliate, Turning Point Action, reflect the increasingly hard line taken by the group,

Thats it. hard line on what? The article talks about Kirk sending out text messages and facebook ads from Kirk as its only context. Please revert. Eruditess (talk) 21:09, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

@Eruditess I think it would be better to start a discussion on Talk:Turning Point USA. Anways, the WaPo source is very clearly about Turning Point USA. You talk about "Kirk sending out text messages" but the article is clearly states: "The text messages signed by Kirk, and sent earlier this month, ask recipients to sign a petition addressed to Biden opposing “door-to-door medical raids...The text messages were sent by Turning Point Action using Twilio, a cloud communications platform." I don't know how much more clear the article needs to be honestly. Galobtter (pingó mió) 21:20, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
I understand that you see the words Charlie Kirk, and Turning Point Action. But those aren't Turning Point USA. WP:SYNTH is having a source say one thing, yet you write something different. Thats what you did when you reverted that article. Turning Point Action has its own article. Charlie Kirk even has his own article. Can you please provide a clearer part in the citation that says Turning Point USA specifically? Not that Charlie Kirk and/or Turning Point Action participated in the sending of said text messages. Its honestly not very clear at all. Eruditess (talk) 06:05, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
As I mentioned, for discussing the article we should discuss at Talk:Turning Point USA. There's already discussion at Talk:Turning_Point_USA#IMPARTIAL_and_Covid_false_claims. Please continue there. Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:15, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Italian political parties dispute

Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:45, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring my page mover right

Thanks a lot Galobtter for restoring my PM right. It is funny how quickly some editors throw accusations of betrayal when they don't get their way (I also got a similar accusation). Thank you also for defending my close, even if it wasn't my finest one. The response to it was so disproportionate and the accusations that followed were so uncivil and lacking in AGF that for moments I thought my days of editing wikipedia were over. Thanks to you and other editors that participated in ANI I have regained my trust and commitment to the project. Vpab15 (talk) 09:59, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).

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  • Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
  • The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Good to see you

Seems like we both became active again around the same time. Good to see your name on my watchlist. Was trying to remember when your RfA was, and suddenly felt very old when I realized it was in 2018... TonyBallioni (talk) 00:15, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni hah, good to see you too. I have the same feeling; the wiki feels timeless in many ways, so stuff that's recent in my wiki-memory can be from when I was last active and years old. I guess now I can pull out the "back in my day" every now and then though :) Galobtter (pingó mió) 00:25, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Heh, I remember WP:ACTRIAL and WP:ACPERM like it was yesterday. Hard to imagine its been almost 5 years since Kudpung and I worked on that. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:52, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Wait till you guys get to my age, the time will then seem to fly TonyBallioni. It may be worthwhile checking out just how fast things get out of date in today's encyclopedia. The run up to ACTRIAL was a battle over a great many years already, like the 10-year fight for better curation tools for NPP (that nobody cares much about nowadays despite a backlog at monumental proportions). It's hard to believe that it's almost two-and-a-half years since I was made to feel my work on WP is no longer trusted. But, Hey! I'm still proud of the legacy I left even if it was all done for free and under an anonymous user name. Some people are not so modest - vengeance would be sweet, but I was taught to turn the other cheek. . Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:27, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Any progress on the font tag bot?

Hi there! Have you been able to make any progress on the replacement font-tag-replacing bot? We were on a pace of fixing a million errors per month, and we have been essentially stalled for a couple of weeks now. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:29, 22 June 2022 (UTC)