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Overarching

The bot deleted my work within minutes while I was still doing template transclusion experiments that take an hour and involve three templates, one transcluding one transcluding the other. I made an effort to find template sandboxes X3, X4, and X5, that were little used, for days on end, but as soon as I start using them, here comes the bot.

What can be done? I've looked around a bit, but found nothing I can do about the brush off. — CpiralCpiral 01:31, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

I've been waiting almost a year for an answer to a similar complaint of mine. I think deletions must be easily recoverable from the revision history, but it's still a nuisance the first time it hits. There doesn't seem to be an easy way of noting the schedule in the template documentation. It is a regular schedule, as I remember, i.e. so many minutes past the hour. This is something that should be brought up somewhere else, if it's to be pursued, if my experience is representative. Dhtwiki (talk) 04:44, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedia_files_missing_permission_as_of_19_June_2015

Is Hazard Bot affected by the tool server outage? It did not create Category:Wikipedia_files_missing_permission_as_of_19_June_2015. Thanks. --B (talk) 15:43, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

The bot is not cleaning sandbox

It needs fixing 65.175.243.206 (talk) 10:29, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Which sandbox? It's still (over-)cleaning the Template:X9 sandbox every hour at about 35 minutes after. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:54, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

[[1]] is not being cleaned 65.175.243.206 (talk) 09:39, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

I see what you mean. I didn't check the sandbox itself, but I saw that that Talk page got cleaned every few days, until this month. And Template:X9 hasn't been cleaned since late September. The pages can be fairly easily cleaned manually, but automatic cleaning seems to have been the norm. However, if you're waiting for an answer, or even some action, good luck. Bot problems have not been addressed on this page, that I've seen. It probably needs to be brought up somewhere else. Dhtwiki (talk) 21:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Sandbox bot

Hi, Hazard-SJ. There's a discussion about Hazard-Bot cleaning the sandbox on the bot owner's noticeboard. Thanks! — Earwig ^talk 00:08, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

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adopting

Are you open? I've had an account for 9 years but haven't done much.Silver923 (talk) 06:24, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello, unfortunately I'd say I don't have sufficient time at the moment to adpot anyone.  Hazard SJ  05:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

WP:BRFA trial approved

Hello Hazzard-SJ, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Hazard-Bot 34 has been speedily moved to trial. Please see the page. — xaosflux ^Talk 04:15, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!  Hazard SJ  04:53, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Ping on BOTREQ

I didn't get notified about this ping and only noticed it now. Apparently this is because "[t]he diff chunk must be recognised as an addition of new lines of text, not a change to existing lines", per mw:Manual:Echo#Technical details. – nyuszika7h (talk) 15:31, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up.  Hazard SJ  01:04, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Task number 29

I'm a little confused about Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Hazard-Bot 29. Has it run on the entire Category:Relisted AfD debates? There's a lot of old logs from 2015 in there and it seems like pages as well. Thanks! -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:26, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ricky81682: Sorry for the delay. My bot doesn't edit the log pages (simply because they aren't AfDs, and hence, don't get relisted for deletion). I've just looked through Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2015 January 20, and it seems the culprit is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BOLDfest. Looking around, I couldn't find anything on the page that would prevent it being edited, so I then looked at the category itself, and that's where the problem lay: the AfD was not listed in the category! I did a quick null edit on the page, and that solved the problem of it not showing up in the logs. Following that, I did a similar check on another log page, found the culprit AfD, and did another null edit, which also solved that. I think what I may need to is make a null edit to all AfDs transcluded in the logs within that category, so that the category list will be updated correctly (after which, the bot should be able to identify those AfDs as being relisted) and remove the category (hence removing the log's listing). Recent listings do not include the log pages (the category is now surrounded by <noinclude>...</noinclude>). Hopefully the cases I locate are the only ones, and that no future cases develop (they would be undetectable). Thanks for pointing this out, though!  Hazard SJ  00:38, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Makes sense. I think the category was probably added so the ones directly transulating it need to be null edited in full. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 01:04, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

@Ricky81682: The null edits are now in progress, so if all goes well, the logs should be wiped from the category the next time the main script runs.  Hazard SJ  06:08, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Research help additions!

Hey Hazard-Sj! Thanks for the patience on Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Hazard-Bot_33. Looks like we are a go! Remember, the staging for the articles: Wikipedia:Research_help/Proposal#Project_steps. I updated it to reflect the 10,000 article cap.

Since we are only doing 5,000 for each WikiProject, can you start at the A's so that we skip over the numbered pages? The numbered pages tend to be either current events (starting with the year of the article) or one of a similar type (for example, in military history there are a lot of numbered military units or medicine I imagine a lot of chemicals). Skipping to A's allows us to get a broader swath of the types of articles.

Also, if you could add one more element to the edit summary: a hashtag, so we can track the edits adding the template using http://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags/. This should help with transparency of the number of edits for the bot action. I would suggest: #ResHelp.Astinson (WMF) (talk) 16:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

@Astinson (WMF): Here you go!  Hazard SJ  05:29, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Super excited! Astinson (WMF) (talk) 15:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Batch 2 for WP:Research help

Hey Hazard-Sj. The conversation following the initial deployment were resistant, but not overwhelmingly negative. I think we are good to do the round 2, pilot at the project steps. The initial metrics and survey results are very promising. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 17:43, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

 Doing...  Hazard SJ  20:57, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Sandbox

Hi Hazard-SJ. We're looking for a sandbox cleaner at Draft:Sandbox. Are you interested in the job? -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 16:56, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

@Zzuuzz: Sure! Is there any specific frequency that would be preferred, or could it be done as frequently as other main sandboxes? I know people were annoyed about the template sandboxes being cleaned too frequently when they were done just like any other sandbox (even though the bot ensures it hasn't been edited for a certain minimum time (I think that time's currently set to 5 minutes, I should consider bumping it up to 10). Also, confirm that I would be using {{Sandbox reset}}?  Hazard SJ  21:55, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. The box is currently totally unattended, so I guess it's an open job description. The original template installation is here. There is a curious message about the VisualEditor in that template, but I don't think that affects anything. I would have thought something like 3 or 6 hours would do, but I don't see anything wrong with 10 minutes or whatever else is normal. It's not normally very busy. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 22:19, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

@Zzuuzz: Here you go! It won't check that page more than a few times a day, the 10 minutes was actually referring to something else. Basically, if the bot checks the page right now, but you edited that page less that 10 minutes ago, it will think that you might still be testing, and hence, not edit the page. It will wait a few minutes, then recheck and if it seems you're still testing, it will just come back on the next run.  Hazard SJ  07:23, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Understood. Thanks for sorting it out! -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 12:59, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Jamaican Wikipedia

Hi! Sorry to bother you but I would like to ask you to help us in the Jamaican Wikipedia, which still at the incubator. We have been told that "the requirements for approval are complete translation of the most-used messages and continuous activity of 3+ users for at least several (3+) months. We are two users (Yocahuna and I) so would like to ask for your help. Could you please answer here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katxis (talk • contribs) 17:32, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

{{Research help}}

What does adding to a page mean? "Adding {{Research help}}; please leave feedback/comments..." K.e.coffman (talk) 04:24, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

@K.e.coffman: The bot is adding the research help template as a part of a study for the research help proposal.  Hazard SJ  05:31, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

I've stopped it and recommend that it not restart until after the closure of the deletion debate. DrKay (talk) 08:19, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

@DrKay: I've stopped the task.  Hazard SJ  19:53, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks @DrKay: and sorry for interfering with other bot work Hazard-SJ. The conversation has become quite interesting :) Keep up the great work both! Astinson (WMF) (talk) 17:21, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

WP:FIX

Greetings! Would I contact you or Bgwhite for a new database dump on WP:FIX? I know the last one was done in January. Now that a majority of them have been completed, I think maybe it's time for another run? Sct72 (talk) 01:30, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

@Sct72: Hi, that would be me. I did do a run sometime in February, but I think it had an error at some point. The February dump is still the latest available on Tool Labs (the March dumps are being produced as I type), so I just restarted it for last month's dump, and if there's another error I'll have to do a bit of investigation.  Hazard SJ  16:38, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

@Sct72: March dumps have been available for about a week, but not on labs for some reason. I'll send a message to the email list to find out why it isn't showing up on labs. In the meantime, one can wget the dump file from https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/ Bgwhite (talk) 04:52, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

@Sct72: I'll quote from Ariel, the dump "master", Well it turns out that this is known behavior; these dumps are listed as having failed items, so we don't copy from those. While it's possible that we could copy the files from steps of a 'bad' dump that are believed to have completed without issues, the risk is that those good steps may have problems as well so we don't do this. The failed steps will be rerun at the next pass and then those files will show up in labs. Bgwhite (talk) 20:26, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

@Bgwhite and Sct72: The issue was a strange little one with regular expressions in Python 2.7 (not present in Python 3.5), which I found a workaround for, and the February dumps have been successfully run.  Hazard SJ  20:42, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedia possibly unfree files creations

Why did Hazard bot create Category:Possibly unfree files from 2016 April 20 and Category:Possibly unfree files from 2016 April 21? One bot operator letting their bot do it is bad enough. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:07, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Note: I replied on WP:BON.  Hazard SJ  21:20, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

WP:FIX followup

Thank you @Hazard-SJ and @Bgwhite for all the help and info on this! (sorry I didn't get on here sooner, it's been a weird month apparently!!) Sct72 (talk) 20:39, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

@Sct72: You're welcome!  Hazard SJ  21:21, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

WP:FIX

Hey, could you run the dumps again for WP:FIX? And if you don't handle this anymore, direct me to the appropriate person? Thank you! Sct72 (talk) 20:08, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

@Sct72: Hi, sure! I've updated the script to use the latest dump and started it.  Hazard SJ  20:02, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for the new dumps on WP:FIX! Sct72 (talk) 20:01, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

I'll hopefully get the next batch running over the next week or so!  Hazard SJ  21:09, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Latin American 10,000 Challenge invite

Hi. The Wikipedia:WikiProject Latin America/The 10,000 Challenge ‎ has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge and Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like Brazil, Mexico, Peru and Argentina etc, much like Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. At some stage we hope to run some contests to benefit Latin American content, a destubathon perhaps, aimed at reducing the stub count would be a good place to start, based on the current Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon. If you would like to see this happening for Latin America, and see potential in this attracting more interest and editors for the country/countries you work on please sign up and being contributing to the challenge! This is a way we can target every country of Latin America, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant!♦ --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 00:35, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

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WP:FIX

Hey, how about another run of dumps for WP:FIX? Thank you! Sct72 (talk) 02:01, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

@Sct72: In progress! Hopefully I remember to update the status when it's done.  Hazard SJ  04:13, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

How long till HBot removes AfDs from the relisted 3 times cat?

I know Hazard bot does this, but some afds have been closed for 3 days and the category was getting a bit cluttered for my lurking brain. Does HazardBot go into action after a specific lag? and should I not hand remove debates? Thanks. L3X1 (distant write) 02:50, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

@L3X1: Hi, Hazard-Bot only does that twice a week per the BRFA, so that basically means 3 or 4 days apart. Do you think that is too infrequent? Also, you break nothing by manually remove debates. The bot was introduced because people didn't always remember to remove them (or simply didn't realize that they should be removed).  Hazard SJ  04:12, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

With some 20 AFDs being relisted a third time every 10 days or so, I think the bot should run every other day, perhaps. I don't know the least thing about bots or coding them, though. Thanks for answering. L3X1 (distant write) 13:37, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Daily categories

Hi, please switch off the creation of daily categories in Category:Wikipedia files needing editor assistance at upload. These are no longer required, per unopposed proposal at CFD April 17. It appears that DumbBOT has stopped creating the categories, but Hazard-Bot is now doing so. – Fayenatic London 16:49, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

@Fayenatic london: Sorry about the delay, now  done!  Hazard SJ  00:24, 28 May 2017 (UTC)