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Why did your Bot do this?

Your bot subst'ed the whole infobox [1] for Darjeeling. --MarsRover (talk) 00:18, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) See #Substing Template:Infobox Indian jurisdiction above. Clearly it has happened more than once, so there may well be other such bad edits out there. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there actually is a poop load of bad edits out there[2]. It is slightly distrubing that Hazard knew he had bad edits but didn't bother to fix any of them. --MarsRover (talk) 19:45, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry about the disruption, and in the future, if it happens again, I'll ensure it is fixed. Hazard-SJ ㋡ 20:23, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Triage engagement strategy released

Hey guys!

I'm dropping you a note because you filled out the New Page Patrol survey, and indicated you'd be interested in being contacted about follow-up work. This is to notify you that we've finally released both the initial documentation about the project and also the engagement strategy, which sets out how we plan to work with the community on this. Please give both a read, and leave any comments or suggestions you have on the talkpage, on my talkpage, or in my inbox - okeyeswikimedia.org.

It's awesome to finally get to start work on this! :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 02:07, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Page Triage newsletter

Hey guys!

Thanks to all of you who have commented on the New Page Triage talkpage. If you haven't had a chance yet, check it out; we're discussing some pretty interesting ideas, both from the Foundation and the community, and moving towards implementing quite a few of them :).

In addition, on Tuesday 13th March, we're holding an office hours session in #wikimedia-office on IRC at 19:00 UTC (11am Pacific time). If you can make it, please do; we'll have a lot of stuff to show you and talk about, including (hopefully) a timetable of when we're planning to do what. If you can't come, for whatever reason, let me know on my talkpage and I'm happy to send you the logs so you can get an idea of what happened :). Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:46, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Triage newsletter

Hey all!

Thanks to everyone who attended our first office hours session; the logs can be found here, if you missed it, and we should be holding a second one on Thursday, 22 March 2012 at 18:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. I hope to see you all there :).

In the meantime, I have greatly expanded the details available at Wikipedia:New Page Triage: there's a lot more info about precisely what we're planning. If you have ideas, and they aren't listed there, bring them up and I'll pass them on to the developers for consideration in the second sprint. And if you know anyone who might be interested in contributing, send them there too!

Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:19, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

help triage some feedback

Hey guys.

I appreciate this isn't quite what you signed up for, but I figured as people who are already pretty good at evaluating whether material is useful or not useful through Special:NewPages, you might be interested :). Over the last few months we've been developing the new Article Feedback Tool, which features a free text box. it is imperative that we work out in advance what proportion of feedback is useful or not so we can adjust the design accordingly and not overwhelm you with nonsense.

This is being done through the Feedback Evaluation System (FES), a tool that lets editors run through a stream of comments, selecting their value and viability, so we know what type of design should be promoted or avoided. We're about to start a new round of evaluations, beginning with an office hours session tomorrow at 18:00 UTC. If you'd like to help preemptively kill poor feedback, come along to #wikimedia-office and we'll show you how to use the tool. If you can't make it, send me an email at okeyeswikimedia.org or drop a note on my talkpage, and I'm happy to give you a quick walkthrough in a one-on-one session :).

All the best, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:32, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Talkback

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Talkback

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I have replied 2:31PM EST WheresTristan (talk) 18:32, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted

I invite you to the yearly Berlin hackathon. It's 1-3 June and registration is now open. If you need financial assistance or help with visa or hotel, just mention it in the registration form.

This is the premier event for the MediaWiki and Wikimedia technical community. We'll be hacking, designing, and socialising, primarily talking about ResourceLoader and Gadgets (extending functionality with JavaScript), the switch to Lua for templates, Wikidata, and Wikimedia Labs.

Our goals for the event are to bring 100-150 people together, including lots of people who have not attended such events before. User scripts, gadgets, API use, Toolserver, Wikimedia Labs, mobile, structured data, templates -- if you are into any of these things, we want you to come!

I also thought you might want to know about other upcoming events where you can learn more about MediaWiki customization and development, how to best use the web API for bots, and various upcoming features and changes. We'd love to have power users, bot maintainers and writers, and template makers at these events so we can all learn from each other and chat about what needs doing.

Check out the the developers' days preceding Wikimania in July in Washington, DC and our other events.

Best wishes! - Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation's Volunteer Development Coordinator. Please reply on my talk page, here or at mediawiki.org. Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator 15:11, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A big NPT update

Hey! Big update on what the developers have been working on, and what is coming up:

coding

Fixes for the "moved pages do not show up in Special:NewPages" and "pages created from redirects do not show up in Special:NewPages" bugs have been completed and signed off on. Unfortunately we won't be able to integrate them into the existing version, but they will be worked into the Page Triage interface.
Coding has been completed on three elements; the API for displaying metadata about the article in the "list view", the ability to keep the "patrol" button visible if you edit an article before patrolling it, and the automatic removal of deleted pages from the queue. All three are awaiting testing but otherwise complete.

All other elements are either undergoing research, or about to have development started. I appreciate this sounds like we've not got through much work, and truthfully we're a bit disappointed with it as well; we thought we'd be going at a faster pace :(. Unfortunately there seems to be some 24-72 hour bug sweeping the San Francisco office at the moment, and at one time or another we've had several devs out of it. It's kind of messed with workflow.

Stuff to look at

We've got a pair of new mockups to comment on that deal with the filtering mechanism; this is a slightly updated mockup of the list view, and this is what the filtering tab is going to look like. All thoughts, comments and suggestions welcome on the NPT talkpage :). I'd also like to thank the people who came to our last two office hours sessions; the logs will be shortly available here.

I've also just heard that the first functional prototype for enwiki will be deployed mid-April! Really, really stoked to see this happening :). We're finding out if we can stick something up a bit sooner on prototype.wiki or something.

I appreciate there may be questions or suggestions where I've said "I'll find out and get back to you" and then, uh. not ;p. I sincerely apologise for that: things have been a bit hectic at this end over the last few weeks. But if you've got anything I've missed, drop me a line and I'll deal with it! Further questions or issues to the usual address. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 17:04, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Unicode fixes per request at the English Wikipedia

Thanks for your reply. Wish u will always guide us like that. The unicode fixes done by you on the Assmamese wikipedia, was not helpful for us (most probably you too noticed that, because I have seen those page again reverted back to earlier position). We have both the character "ত" and "ৎ", and every ত is not ৎ as your bot did.

Yes the | → । will damage the wiki pages if it can't run properly, the Ucodebot was different from that side, as I observed. I think it will be better to run the bot by us if it possible. And in every pages it is not necessary to run the bot. Regards. Bishnu Saikia ^Talk 10:54, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, your bot is not working. Please stop that. We will have to find an another way to handle these kind of problems. Bishnu Saikia ^Talk 19:09, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A job for Hazard-Bot?

I have a job for a bot. Perhaps I should create and run the bot myself, but I'm too lazy/stupid. Anyway, I found your bot in some page that lists all bots.

Simply, WikiProject History of photography will soon (unless anybody objects) be merged within WikiProject Photography. Many of the talk-page templates for the former should become templates for the latter; the rest should become templates for the (as yet non-existent) "Photographic work" task force of the latter. The process shouldn't produce duplicate templates.

I've written this in gaffe-packed/helpful/excruciating detail in "Pseudocode for the bot" on the relevant talk page. If you could please take a look at that, and write your comments there ("You must be joking", "How much would you pay me?", etc), I'd be very grateful. -- Hoary (talk) 13:17, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Substing Template:Infobox Indian jurisdiction (again)

I see that people have complained about Hazard-Bot substing Infobox Indian jurisdiction in the past, and it seems that there's still some out there, I've just come across Mathura. This really isn't acceptable - these are high-profile articles, to give two examples Darjeeling gets 30k hits/month and Mathura is a city the size of Chicago - and substing the infobox pretty much makes it impossible for ordinary Wikipedians to update/improve the infobox. As such, Hazard-Bot may be regarded as a vandal-bot, which I'm sure is not your intention. Recall WP:BOTAPPROVAL - "The bot operator is responsible for reviewing the edits and repairing any mistakes caused by the bot."
So in case the previous requests weren't obvious enough - it's your responsibility to undo the damage done by Hazard-Bot. Please go back through all the edits where the bot substed {{Infobox Indian jurisdiction}} and undo the changes. 19 November 2011‎ seems to be when most of them happened. FlagSteward (talk) 00:46, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've reverted those that weren't already done. Thanks for reminding me about the template. Hazard-SJ ㋡ 02:35, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hazard-Bot and WikiProject Chicago

I reverted this edit by your (apparent) bot. [Apparent, because it is not setting the b edit flag bit.]

I don't see how Veterans Memorial Coliseum (Portland) might be of interest to Chicago's wikiproject. A further look through bot's editing history turns up some other questionable taggings: Talk:Everett, Washington, Talk:Everett massacre, Talk:Conscription in Australia, Talk:Communist Party of Australia, Talk:Columbine Mine massacre, etc., etc. Are you sure the bot is working as intended? —EncMstr (talk) 21:41, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That (the revert) should be okay. It is tagging based on categories, and it recursed a subcategory of the Chicago category with AWB. I have stopped it, thanks for the notification. Hazard-SJ ㋡ 21:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your bot also added the Chicago project template to the talk page for Rosemary Byrne, I suspect she probably never visited the city in her life. It also improperly used the minor changes flag. PatGallacher (talk) 00:06, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I've been reverting some of the edits (some are okay), but isn't it a supposed to be marked as a minor edit? Hazard-SJ ㋡

I just carefully reviewed WP:MINOR, something I have not done for a few years. The situation with a bot adding a WikiProject to a talk page seems more likely to be considered minor than not. However, it doesn't strictly fall in either group of example edits. I personally expect that to be minor edit since most editors won't care. (Unless the tagging is inappropriate.) —EncMstr (talk) 01:01, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the verification. Hazard-SJ ㋡ 01:09, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just letting you know that there was a similar issue with Skyscraper Museum which is in NY not Chicago. Automated tagging of articles based on broad categories can be problematic. I previously used DodoBot for similar tagging, and had no issues, but only used very specific categories and no subcats. --ELEKHH^T 11:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notification. DodoBot is inactive, and has a more advanced system than Hazard-Bot. Hazard-SJ ㋡ 03:13, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hazard-Bot

Hmm, the Hazard-Bot seems to have screwed up all of the Template:X1 et al. pages. Axl ¤ [Talk] 19:45, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notification. It's only in testing, and not officially approved, but I'll update the text it adds and let it apply them. Maybe I should get it approved as an occasional task, especially since only Addbot has done it recently, a good while back, and it isn't often needed for cleaning? I'll consider it. Hazard-SJ ㋡ 01:47, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New Pages update

Hey Hazard-SJ/Archive 4 :). A quick update on how things are going with the New Page Triage/New Pages Feed project. As the enwiki page notes, the project is divided into two chunks: the "list view" (essentially an updated version of Special:NewPages) and the "article view", a view you'll be presented with when you open up individual articles that contains a toolbar with lots of options to interact with the page - patrolling it, adding maintenance tags, nominating it for deletion, so on.

On the list view front, we're pretty much done! We tried deploying it to enwiki, in line with our Engagement Strategy on Wednesday, but ran into bugs and had to reschedule - the same happened on Thursday :(. We've queued a new deployment for Monday PST, and hopefully that one will go better. If it does, the software will be ready to play around with and test by the following week! :).

On the article view front, the developers are doing some fantastic work designing the toolbar, which we're calling the "curation bar"; you can see a mockup here. A stripped-down version of this should be ready to deploy fairly soon after the list view is; I'm afraid I don't have precise dates yet. When I have more info, or can unleash everyone to test the list view, I'll let you know :). As always, any questions to the talkpage for the project or mine. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaning sandbox

Hi Hazard-SJ. I noticed that your bot (User:Hazard-Bot) cleans the sandbox on MediaWiki.org (mw:Project:Sandbox). Perhaps you could do that on the Dutch Wikipedia as well for the page nl:Wikipedia:Snelcursus/Probeer maar...? The clean version is this one (from 16 January 2012). You may request a bot flag on nl:Wikipedia:Aanmelding botgebruikers‎ and of course you can refer to this question if you wish. Thanks in advance for your help! Kind regards, Trijnstel_talk 16:46, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Trijnstel. I have made a request there. Hazard-SJ ✈ 22:40, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Triage prototype released

Hey Hazard-SJ! We've finally finished the NPT prototype and deployed it on enwiki. We'll be holding an office hours session on the 16th at 21:00 in #wikimedia-office to show it off, get feedback and plot future developments - hope to see you there! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 03:31, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mail?

Hello, Selene Scott here. I had a note on my talk page that had your name on it. It said 'you've got mail, check your email'. I checked my regular email account that is linked to this site and all that was there was a couple things from Y!answers and spam. I'm new so I am still slightly vacant, but I can't figure out what else it means since we don't have 'email' on here. "Selene Scott (talk) 23:53, 16 May 2012 (UTC)"[reply]

Well, I guess we do have email on here as I see a link to yours on the top of the page :] I'll figure this out yet!"Selene Scott (talk) 23:55, 16 May 2012 (UTC)"[reply]

The "email" we have here is the Special:EmailUser feature (see here). I sent you an email using it, and the subject should be shown as "Wikipedia e-mail". However, if it wasn't received, it's no big deal (maybe a lag in the servers?). I was merely commenting on your request (you hadn't responded, but I realized you have two adopters currently), progress (you seem to be going well in your adoption) and asking you if you were enjoying Wikipedia so far. Hazard-SJ ✈ 00:03, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am enjoying it very much. I agree the 'school' that my mentor set up is awesome! I feel confident that I am learning things in an order that I'm ready for. Alas, we have not gotten to the little things yet such as email. I followed the link you put and I do have everything enabled in my preferences and verified my email address, but still I don't see. Thank you for offering to adopt me. Happy editing!"Selene Scott (talk) 00:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC)"[reply]

Glad to hear you're enjoying it. In addition, you're welcome. There are many things that you won't go through in detail with your mentor during your "class", but you'll learn as you continue to progress. However, there will always be people around who are willing to assist. Hazard-SJ ✈ 01:56, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Try going to My preferences at the top and then scroll to the bottom of the page. You should see something that says email options. Make sure your email is correct and you have Enable e-mail from other users and send me copies of e-mails I send to other users. Ryan Vesey Review me! 01:59, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

BAGBot: Your bot request Hazard-Bot 10

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Thank You

Thanks for the reply to Yoshi Vandalism on ClueBot's talk page. Oct13 (talk) 06:10, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Hazard-SJ ✈ 01:40, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Triage/New Pages Feed

Hey all :). A notification that the prototype for the New Pages Feed is now live on enwiki! We had to briefly take it down after an unfortunate bug started showing up, but it's now live and we will continue developing it on-site.

The page can be found at Special:NewPagesFeed. Please, please, please test it and tell us what you think! Note that as a prototype it will inevitably have bugs - if you find one not already mentioned at the talkpage, bring it up and I'm happy to carry it through to the devs. The same is true of any additions you can think of to the software, or any questions you might have - let me know and I'll respond.

Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:15, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bot edits mingled with user edits!

Many edits by Hazard-Bot are logged to its own account. But on 2012-05-25, about 500 apparent bot edits (often two per second) have been logged to your user account. Some obvious human edits are follow (precede in time), but then possible bot edits again on 2012-05-05. (They could be human edits, if you have a way of batching and working offline, but I don't think any editors operate in that way.) Bot and human activity should be kept separate. Maybe bots can be made to check userid before engaging, to prevent mingling. :) -A876 (talk) 05:21, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your concern. The edits from my account were not made by my bot, so no bug to worry about. The were all automated/semi-automated edits, made while I was online (that should explain why there are at least two big gaps in the edits), so I could review changes. Furthermore, my bot has no such task :) Hazard-SJ ✈ 02:18, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hazard-Bot – Thanks

Hello!

I've just seen that Hazard-Bot started to tag articles of the WP:Hungary sports and games task force. I don't know how you came to know my wish – I guess you just checked the request board –, but I want to say a big thanks for it! I also would like to ask if can I expect your bot to tag articles in the future, day by day?

Another thing I realized is that the bot sometimes forgot to add the "sports=yes" parameter. I tried to figure out the reasons, but could not. For example the Hungarian golf and cycling federations did not get the sports parameter, while the rugby union did. Same happened with the 2005 Kick Boxing World Championship (no sports) while for example a very similar event, the 2010 Boxing European Championship got tagged. Is there a particular reason for this?!

Thanks again for tagging!

Regards, Thehoboclown (talk) 15:01, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. You're welcome, and yes, I did see your request. The code has a problem that will require fixing before the task can be done peacefully (unless I fall back to my other option, which will not add the parameter at all. As for daily tagging, that would not be possible. Hazard-SJ ✈ 01:24, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Hazard-SJ. You have new messages at I dream of horses's talk page.
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Thanks!

For helping me out.I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 01:32, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Hazard-SJ ✈ 01:34, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:19810115 Daniel Travanti in Hill Street Station episode of Hill Street Blues.png

This image is under non-free review, although, true, it is not used in one main article. I wonder if the bot must stop tagging it as orphaned. --George Ho (talk) 04:18, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I added this to the image ignore list, so that file should be ignored on the next run(s). Hazard-SJ ✈ 00:19, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it from the ignore list, and decided to skip all files with {{Non-free review}}. Hazard-SJ ✈ 00:26, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]