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Again, welcome! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 15:56, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]


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Wikipedia and copyright[edit]

Control copyright icon Hello Hvant, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to Second Report on the State of the World's Animal Genetic Resources has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

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Your edits[edit]

Hi! Thanks for creating Transboundary breed (I've moved it to that title as it is not a proper name, so doesn't need a capital "B" for breed). I see that you've tried to add some links to it. Unfortunately, you've tried to add them inside existing weblinks. That just won't work – it doesn't wikilink to the internal page, and it messes up the display of the weblink. So I'm afraid I've undone those edits. Please don't let that discourage you from making more contributions. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:04, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem: The State of the World's Animal Genetic Resources for Food and Agriculture[edit]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as The State of the World's Animal Genetic Resources for Food and Agriculture, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images from either web sites or printed works. This article appears to contain work copied from http://dad.fao.org/cgi-bin/getblob.cgi?sid=-1,50006167 https://cgspace.cgiar.org/bitstream/handle/10568/3141/WP_26.pdf?sequence=1 http://www.fao.org/docrep/meeting/026/me546e.pdf and possibly elsewhere, and therefore to constitute a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policies. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators are liable to be blocked from editing.

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Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:34, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you have already had a warning from Diannaa about this, and I'm perturbed to see that this page was created well after that warning. The first document listed above carries a clear statement that "Reproduction of material in this information product for resale or other commercial purposes is prohibited without written permission of the copyright holders" and also a copyright claim, "© FAO 2001". Just to be completely clear:
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  • if you do, you risk the suspension of your editing privileges.
If you think there may be other articles where you have copied directly from your sources, please list them here, on this page, so that they can be cleaned up. That would be very helpful. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:34, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Justlettersandnumbers (talk thank you for your concern. I will work on re-wording some of these "copyrighted" sentences. It was definitely not my intention to do anything of the sort. Perhaps the content in some cases is just too specific to be changed to a great extent. I will work on this issue asap. Please reconsider flagging this page as copyrighted material. Otherwise, I am happy to ask the FAO copyright department to write an email expressing their permission for publishing this page. Hvant (talk) 10:49, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, the content is never too specific to be rewritten in your own words (that's a claim we often hear, but it's never – to date – proved to be true). I've left a link to place for a rewrite, and the place for FAO management to read about donating materials (if they want to), at Talk:The State of the World's Animal Genetic Resources for Food and Agriculture. If you think there may be other articles where you have copied directly from your sources, please list them here, on this page, so that they can be cleaned up. That would be very helpful. Thank you, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:30, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest[edit]

Information icon Hello, Hvant. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

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Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you. --Animalparty! (talk) 01:55, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

hello, thank you for your message. I will definitely post my work affiliation with the FAO of the UN, as soon as I figure out how to do it! Please stop deletiing my pages that I have worked very hard on! :( Hvant (talk) 22:33, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I did not delete any of your pages, but you may prevent future deletions by submitting articles as drafts first, where they can be reviewed for suitability and copyright infringement before going "live". In short, you should not be using Wikipedia as free web-hosting to promote ("increase awareness of") initiatives of the FAO, no matter how important or noteworthy you may think they are. (Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion). Articles of any type should primarily be sourced from secondary sources, per policy. Many of your articles could easily be mistaken for content on official FAO websites, e.g. Second Report on the State of the World's Animal Genetic Resources and Food and Agriculture Policy Decision Analysis and Animal Genetic Resources for Food and Agriculture. Suitable subjects from articles should have significant, third party coverage in multiple sources. Articles about FAO subjects should not be primarily sourced by FAO documents, as they are primary sources, possibly biased, and may result in bloated, overly detailed coverage of subjects of interest to only a very small number of readers. Please see related guidelines and policies on Notability, spam, and What Wikipedia is not. --Animalparty! (talk) 23:00, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of The Funding Strategy for the Global Plan of Action for Animal Genetic Resources[edit]

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A tag has been placed on The Funding Strategy for the Global Plan of Action for Animal Genetic Resources requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://www.fao.org/ag/againfo/programmes/en/genetics/first_call.html. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Thanks Justlettersandnumbers but I worked very hard on that article, and while yes it does have the project titles copied, everything else has been written by FAO staff members and myself who would like this information to be accessible to wikipedia users. The projects themselves are very specific, and so are the guidelines regarding the funding strategy. Thus, it is impossible to create brand new material. I thought the point of wikipedia was to share knowledge to benefit everyone, and that this knowledge is verified by direct sources- hence it being an encyclopedia. I can think of no one better to write pages about FAO and UN projects than FAO employees themselves. So please explain to me how I can successfully publish this information that we would like others to benefit from? It can not be as simple as re-writing it, as I am sure you will find some form of copyright and just delete it again. :( losing hope here. Kind regards, Hvant (talk) 22:43, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hvant, the only reason I didn't immediately ask for you to be indefinitely blocked from editing when I saw that you had written yet another page with massive copying from the source (not just project titles as you suggest) is that I know that you're trying to help here. I'm going to make some comments or suggestions. They may sound a bit harsh, but they're intended to help you get started as a productive editor.
  • Everything you write in Wikipedia must be in your own words; I've told you this before, and so has Diannaa. Please understand that you may not copy chunks of text from copyright publications, and that if you do so repeatedly it is really extremely unlikely that you will be allowed to continue editing.
  • The replacement article you have written at Talk:The State of the World's Animal Genetic Resources for Food and Agriculture/Temp cannot be used, as it contains copyright violations of this page (at least) – see the results of this tool
  • You have a WP:conflict of interest in relation to the FAO and all it does. Neither you nor anyone else at the FAO should be trying to promote/ publicise/ divulge its projects and activities here
  • That doesn't mean that those activities are not valuable (as it happens, they are a particular interest of mine and very close to my heart – I've cited FAO publications many, many hundreds of times here); it just means that you and your colleagues there are absolutely not the right people to write about them (you can think of no one better to write pages about the FAO than its employees; Wikipedia can – more or less – think of no-one worse – please read WP:N)
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I'm going to leave you an invitation below; please consider accepting it. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:50, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation[edit]

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Hello! Hvant, you are invited to join other new editors and friendly hosts in the Teahouse. It's a good place to meet people, ask questions and learn more about Wikipedia. Please give it a try! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:50, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


A wild thought[edit]

Since I'm here (on your page) and you are there (at the FAO), a wild thought crossed my mind: would you like to find out if there is any vestige of a chance that photos such as this could be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons? They'd have to be under a licence such as CC-BY-SA 4.0 that allows commercial use, so quite different from the way they are currently licenced. I don't imagine there's any possibility this could be done, but it would make a huge difference to this project if it could (it's extremely difficult to find free photos of rare breeds, and many of our articles are without illustration for that reason). It would (1) reflect well on the FAO (2) be extremely helpful and (3) help to spread knowledge of, and interest in, rare livestock breeds. It'd be a lot of work, too. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:06, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi talk I like this wild thought. I actually looked into this option while I was there, and unfortunately, FAO's copyright policy is very stringent, and they did not seem very willing to change their entire copyright policy just for wikipedia. Their email is copyright@fao.org I believe. I will mention your idea to my supervisor though, as it is nice to hear that wikipedia is interested in collaborating. I agree it would reflect well on FAO and your other 2 points of course. Hvant (talk) 18:56, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Talk:The State of the World's Animal Genetic Resources for Food and Agriculture/Temp[edit]

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CCI Notice[edit]

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