Hello Hyper. Good to see another wikipedian with an interest in charismatic restorationism. I was happily part of a Salt and Light church for a number of years, and became acquainted with Barney Coombs. I am interested to know where you fit in the scheme of things, and how you gleaned your knowledge about Wallis and Lillie (i.e. dates of their baptism in the Holy Ghost).A.J.Chesswas20:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Hyper,
I'm not sure if this is the best way to contact you, but I couldn't think of any other.
I'm also researching ecclesiology for a PhD. I might well know you (I'm going to the Deep Church seminar tomorrow, and guessing that you might be there, too?!) I'd love to be able to chat a bit. I'm looking at the relationship between institutionality and Pneumatology in ecclesiology, so the New Churches, and the PCM generally, come into that. I don't know how to swap email addresses using Wikipedia, but if you do, let me know!
God bless,
Nuncdimittis —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuncdimittis (talk • contribs) 14:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have more specifically spoken my objections to the Roger T Forster article. This article needs a substantial rewrite before the "POV" tag is removed. The subject of the article does seem noteworthy, but the article does need a substantial rewrite V. Joe (talk) 14:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have substantially rewritten the article, but please consider (if your sources have it) adding details about his birth, family (if any), RAF service and other details. Even... is he a layperson or is a member of the clergy? What notable works of apology or other academic articles has he written. (Maybe he has also published about an obscure hobby?) Where was he born? etc V. Joe (talk) 19:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is a substantial improvement...It could still use biographically notes, which is the purpose of categorizing... to let experts look at the subject V. Joe (talk) 20:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1. Pentecostalism started around the beginning of the 20th century. Its defining feature is a belief in the baptism of the Holy Spirit "with signs following", or more specifically the gift of tongues as a sign that was expected and required.
2. The Charismatic Movement started in the 1960s outside the historic Pentecostal denominations. Typically adherents believed in a specific experience of baptism in the Holy Spirit, but not neccessarily with the gift of tongues as a sign that was required. For many, the charismatic movement took place within the historic churches, in a move known as Charismatic Renewal. Others left and formed new churches or groupings, such as the British New Church Movement.
3. Although Charismatic renewal proved acceptable within mainline denominations in teh UK, it was always more suspect in the USA. When John Wimber and others taught of the gifts and manifestations of the Holy Spirit without the classic terminology and without a specific experience of baptism of the Holy Spirit, this proved more acceptable, and the Vineyard movement grew and influenced others in a Third Wave from the 1980s, which is also known as neo-charismatic.
I am using the definitions given in the New International Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements[1] xvii-xviii.
1. I agree
2. I would suggest that the Charismatic Movement is defined by people staying within the historic denominations after beginning to use spiritual gifts. Those who leave the historic denominations also leave the Charismatic Movement (capitals) although they continue to be "charismatics". This is quite confusing, I know.
3. Neocharismatics are all those who use spiritual gifts but have no connection with previous denominations.
I think your source could be consistent with both explanations, however what it does not make clear is that the Charismatic Movement is usually defined as a particular historical movement associated with the historic denominations from 1960 onwards. The "third wave" description that Wagner offers has not been taken up so readily by scholars, and having once used it, I have avoided it. It stems, I believe, from the need for non-Pentecostal Americans to distance themselves culturally from Pentecostals, due to the perceived cultural problems produced by televangelism, healing evangelists and the health and wealth gospel. Those outside the US do not have the same cultural problem, and so are not so bothered. I am happy to distinguish between neopentecostals (another term meaning neocharismatics + charismatics!) on the basis of whether they stayed within historic denominations, or not. To this end, the Jesus Army is charismatic, neo-Pentecostal, neo-charismatic but not part of the Charismatic Movement...
The emergence of the term "neocharismatic" has been associated with the need to describe a wide range of charismatic post-denominational groups that could not be held in other terms.
OK. Definitions have obviously moved on. An older edition gives alternative definitions of Charismatic Movement as being either restricted to "within historic denominations", or "both within and without but non-pentecostal". But it doesn't mention neocharismatics. Personally, I'm not sure how helpful those definition of either Charismatic Movement or neocharismatic are, given that the charismatics appearing in the 1960s, whether in or out of historic denominations, had so much in common. (Do you use the term "Charismatic Renewal" at all? That was the usage in the 1960s onwards to distinguish the Charismatic Movement within the historic denominations.) The bigger distinction to my mind is the appearance in the 1980s of a movement typified by Vineyard churches that attempted to bridge the gap between pentecostal/charismatic terminology and historic phraseology by avoiding mention of baptism in the Holy Spirit as a definite second experience. But I must bow to the scholars. John Campbell (talk) 10:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The past few months turned the Todd Bentley article ragged with edits. I just read your re-write, and while I know nothing of the validity/cites used - the language is such an incredible improvement that I wanted to stop by and thank you for your effort. EBY (talk) 01:31, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I understand what your trying to do, but instead of you just saying it wouldn't it be better for us to cite example where christian leaders have said that this is icompatible with christian living. For example, Dutch Sheets released a statement which addresses many of these concerns. I will try to find others reactions to this and the controversy that resulted from leaders commisioning and "apostalically aligning" themselves with Bentley and the fallout its caused. Give me sometime and I'll come up with something or if you have a better idea put it in. I just didn't like having just a blanket statement like that with no support.Ltwin (talk) 21:53, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
However, after reading your message again, I don't see how it could get anymore obvious. Do you think the article as it stands right now is not clear enough on the circumstances surrounding the separation? To me it seems clear, but I wrote it so it may not be as understandable to other people.Ltwin (talk) 21:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure where you got the impression that "related books" refers only to the history of the Vineyard movement. I would either create a subsection referring readers to the historical publications, or leave it as is now (a general reference book section) for all books which come from within the Vineyard movement and define the values of the Vineyard movement. This is most beneficial to the Wiki reader who wants to know what Vineyard actually believes beyond a Statement of Faith.
As for "famous" clergy, I don't think that you can break this down to the number of non-Vineyard media references to an individual. Again, this is a general category which should point readers to people within or near the Vineyard who can help define what the Vineyard is. Dave Schmelzer is not a regionally-known individual (I myself am from a region far away from his). I am closely connected to several on the AVC board who are all friends of Dave. His values help define the next generation of the Vineyard. He is well-read both inside and outside the Vineyard movement. In my opinion, as with the related books section, a reader like myself would be most benefitted by being directed to as many of the significant individuals who have an impact on the historic, present, and future shaping of the Vineyard movement. There are several others I intend to add such as Charles Park, who spoke at the last National Conference, and Jeff Heidkamp, current editor of Cutting Edge magazine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stage4chemist (talk • contribs) 05:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You've been doing some excellent work on various charismatic/pentecostal articles in the last few months. Many thanks. If you happen to be looking for another challenge, then take a peek at Christian revival. It is seriously poor, and I don't know where to begin! (If you want to reply/discuss, then do so here in your talk-page; I've just put it on my watch-list). Best wishes. Feline Hymnic (talk) 23:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the encouragement. I've pruned a few of the more obvious errors on the page, it is quite a monster. The sort of overview required to get it right is huge. The trouble with finding a framework for this is it has too many dimensions; people differ on their view of the definition; it happened over a long period; it happened all over the world. My area is a little different, so I don't have many resources on the history of revival. My research is on the British New Church Movement, and the last forty years. When I need to explain something historically, then I go back further. So I've had to refer to the innate "revivalism" of my area, but not gone into historical detail. We need a few books to give us a clue on how to organise the material. Hyper3 (talk) 12:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Feline - I like what you're doing. Using the time framework makes sense, and if it is necessary, different geographical regions can be mentioned within that. Now the paragraph called "history..." needs redistributing into chronological order. I've realised that there is very little on the 20th century, which I might be able to help with: Azusa Street, Latter Rain, Toronto etc Hyper3 (talk) 00:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. There were some details I wanted to fix, so I did some tentative re-structuring while I was there. I realised that the "History" section was still anomalous, so had intended to come back to it later. But I see that another editor has also noticed and has himself addressed this (good!). Happy New Year. Feline Hymnic (talk) 12:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
While I agree with your edits to the page, I think you may have been too hasty with the changes, especially since, in your edit summary, you mentioned that there wasn't an answer to the discussion. You gave less than two days for discussion...over a holiday no less. Appropriate time for discussion tends to be one week, minimum, for any page because it gives a variety of people a chance to discuss (not just those who watch the page like a hawk and don't do anything else in their day-to-day lives like celebrating the New Year with their families). Considering how few people edit this particular article, a period of two weeks may have been more appropriate.
I will also mention that you need to condense your discussion topics. They may be about different things, but it appears that the first topic is an old discussion because there are three discussions below it. The only way to tell it isn't old is by carefully reading the entire thing, including the date. You can easily say something like "I would like to discuss these topics: A, B, C, D" and then go in depth below that line, all within the same section on the talk page. It keeps discussion moving (I actually thought those were old, dead topics until I saw your most recent edit) and it keeps the page far less cluttered.
A matter of style, don't you think? I prefer to talk about specific things under different headings, for clarity's sake. Hyper3 (talk) 23:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The last thing I will say is to just be bold. If you don't think something should be there or if you think something should change, change it. You don't have to discuss every addition or removal you make, even if it's large. Unless it might be extremely controversial or someone reverts an edit of yours, leave discussion at bay. Only the final two of your discussions really need discussing and those could both, easily, be condensed to one topic. --13222:23, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think being bold is appropriate in the first instance, until a difference of opinion arises. Then talking makes most sense. I think we'll agree on that. Sometimes I prefer to flag up a big edit before I do it, as it helps dialogue if anyone with an opinion wants to comment. Hyper3 (talk) 23:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello there. I removed the "tocleft" template from Dunbar's number because I couldn't see any reason for its usage, and it was making the article look oddly non-standard, for no obvious reason.
The usage information for the template specifically says "It should only be used in cases where the TOC gets in the way of other content or is detrimental to the layout of the page; it should not simply be used for aesthetics since it tampers with the standard appearance of articles." The same goes for "tocright". --McGeddon (talk) 19:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hyper3 - It seems to me that we both (and, I hope, the community as a whole) seek one thing: to accurately define the Vineyard movement (specifically in this Wikipedia article). Clearly our definitions of what is "accurate" diverge a bit, but I think that we can come to some agreement. Although I am new at participating in the encyclopedia, I have been following it and specifically pages such as that for AVC for quite some time. Yes, I am intimately involved in the Vineyard movement, and am good friends with several US national leaders. My knowledge of emerging leaders and figures in the movement is clearly at the forefront compared to yours. Yet, I would imagine you would appreciate this insight, particularly since I am specifically choosing verifiable sources (authors, conference speakers, AVC magazine editors). Certainly it would be helpful for others in the Vineyard to corroborate, although this discussion seems to be primarily between the two of us. I cannot stress enough that this encyclopedia is an important venue to define some of the integral values of the Vineyard when compared to other Christian and non-Christian denominations, e.g. social justice as well as evangelism, environmental care as well as physical healing, etc. Furthermore, I would add that while this article is technically representative of the worldwide AVC, much of the information is particular to AVCUSA, of which I am well informed. Fame in an international sense may not be relevant here. For example, I would accept keynote speakers at the AVCUSA national conference as "famous" within the Vineyard, and individuals whom outsiders should look to when investigating what the Vineyard is and what it believes. I thank you for prompting me to think more about my contributions, but I believe that our perspectives are quite different. Remember that while academic integrity is highly valued here, Wikipedia is not an academic journal. I would not be caught dead citing an entry here for a national conference or journal paper on my research. It is a venue for all of us to expand our knowledge as it evolves. And the Vineyard is evolving; new leaders and figures are emerging and should be contributed to Wikipedia as a way for readers to better understand what Vineyard is today (as well as what is was, as you are quite passionate about). --Stage4chemist (talk) 16:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Don't know what happened to the edit summary. I wrote one. Basically the reference didn't say that he was influenced by Wigglesworth. Am I missing something here? I can as easily find an article talking about his healing claims and write "in the tradition of Jesus Christ or Benny Hinn or ....... Ltwin (talk) 20:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The comparison is all over the internet - but I need to find a better quote that makes the actual connection... I've found him saying he wants the anointing of Smith Wigglesworth, but no reference to violent healing. I need something better than a blog of course. So still looking. Its an important point to locate him, as Wigglesworth is no doubt the reason he was hitting people. Without that, people will think he made it up. He does it "in faith" to be like the healers who have gone before him. But a current reference would be better. Hyper3 (talk) 22:44, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What do you know about Pentecostalism? I see you work alot with the Charismatic movement articles and was just wondering if you had any knowledge of Pentecostal beliefs and history. If you do, would you mind helping out with the Pentecostal article? Thanks. Ltwin (talk) 05:18, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hyper 3, while "Joel's Army" is clearly an important topic to touch with Todd Bentley - a discussion of it doesn't belong in a paragraph on Todd's appearance. Nor does an in-depth discussion of what "Joel's Army" is belong in a BIO:LP of a single preacher. However - in hunting for a way to link it back to Bentley for people who ARE interested in what the movement is about, I noticed that "Joel's Army" doesn't have a very good description anywhere. The phrase redirects to Latter Rain movement in Wikpedia, but nowhere in that article does the topic actually explained. If you have the cites and information, that would be a valuable addition to the Latter Rain article - especially in linking to it from topics like Bentley. EBY (talk) 04:52, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Bentley has multiple tattoo's, parts of his body are covered in ink. It is neither neutral nor balanced to call out one tattoo based on a single, biased, cite and discuss it in length in regards to a possible radical association. Especially an association that is covered elsewhere in the article. . This is an Encyclopedia - not a bully pulpit. A Biography of a Living Person has specific requirements and concerns. EBY (talk) 15:57, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the work on merging in the criticisms section, works much better than as a seperat pice that will draw attacks/support from others. --Nate148111:00, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a christian so I'm not attacking, if you read the articles of those people, they list scandals and/or controversies. It's an incomplete list but belongs with the other if an article is going to be done about it. I personally wouldn't like to see the page at all, we all sin. But so that it is, if you would look at the articles and events of those listed, they would apply. Don't assume. 63.131.4.149 (talk) 10:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Your edits must be properly sourced, or they will be removed. The page is about evangelists, not Christians in general. Hyper3 (talk) 16:28, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Work to build the new Crossrail station at Tottenham Court Road begins on 15 May; rebuilding work will cost over £1 billion and the new ticket hall will be six times the size of the existing one
The replacement of all trains on the Piccadilly line by 2014 is announced
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The Thames boat services are to be made easier with for example, more integration, a new ferry service from London Bridge to Canary Wharf, extending Tower Pier and acceptence of Oyster Pay as you go.
The London Overground's Stratford platforms will open later this month
Taxi fares in London increase by 3.4%
A bird photo competition, with partnership between tfl and RSPB, is launched
March 2009
£9.2 billion is to be used to deliver many transport improvements in the tube, Crossrail, DLR, East London Line and Cycle Hire
A £4.2 million programme is launched to help promote sustainable travel in the London Borough of Richmond
Southern Gas Networks has been prosecuted for breaking rules on street works
Various service changes will occur from late April until December to facilitate upgrade work on London Overground
Two weeks were left for Community Cycling Fund for London to apply for grants help promote cycling
Major work on A406 to facilitate gas works for three months
New artwork for tube map cover
Consultation begins on London Permit Scheme
A map is launched showing Coach Parking in central London
A bridge on Dalston Lane will be replaced in late May to help with the running of the East London Line Extension
A spring campaign is launched to warn drivers to watch out for motorcyclists
From December, Circle Line services will extend to Hammersmith
£1 million used to help set up car club package for residents as essentially a car-for-hire service within five minutes walk over next two years. Cars will have designated spots where they can be used on a pay-as-you-go service.
New bus lane in the centre of Mitcham speeds up journeys
The revamped Tower Gateway station reopens early
Blackfriars LU station closes for 2 years for Thameslink Programme upgrades. The National Rail stations remains open.
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Tim O' Toole, Managing Director of the London Underground steps down
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I have reverted your reversal--allow me to explain why. (BTW, the first time I used rollback, since the reversal, in its history, appeared to be an act of vandalism, and that leaves no edit summary.) The removal of fact tags was not, IMO, done correctly, esp. since (as you'll see from the history) this was done without any kind of explanation. Moreover, the reversal still kept the same weasel-words intact. Note also, your restoration of the text moves from unclarified remarks by "some evangelicals" to a note about "Historic Protestant Christianity," whereas the previous version (equally vague, unspecific, weaselish, and unverified) at least had the merit of doing that the other way around, from the more general to the specific, which would make some rhetorical sense.
Rather than reverse again, you could consider (esp. since you seem to have some expertise in the matter) cleaning that entire paragraph up and finding some references. It's in an atrocious state in your or the other version, but the "tagged" version has the benefit of pointing out what state it's in. You've worked on these kinds of articles; please put your expertise at work. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I did do a lot of work on this page, and still its in a sorry state. Really, I'd like to cut out anything that doesn't have good footnotes, but that would be more bold than I am up to right now. I thought the second version was better than the first, and without a comment believed it was a good thing to bring it back - but we are dealing with fractions here. Leaving the issues in works for me too. My question is, do you have some experience with the Emerging church? Would you join in on some work here? I am researching in a near area, but its all so slippery... Some dialogue would help. Hyper3 (talk) 20:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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A bird photo competition, with partnership between tfl and RSPB, is launched
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A £4.2 million programme is launched to help promote sustainable travel in the London Borough of Richmond
Southern Gas Networks has been prosecuted for breaking rules on street works
Various service changes will occur from late April until December to facilitate upgrade work on London Overground
Two weeks were left for Community Cycling Fund for London to apply for grants help promote cycling
Major work on A406 to facilitate gas works for three months
New artwork for tube map cover
Consultation begins on London Permit Scheme
A map is launched showing Coach Parking in central London
A bridge on Dalston Lane will be replaced in late May to help with the running of the East London Line Extension
A spring campaign is launched to warn drivers to watch out for motorcyclists
From December, Circle Line services will extend to Hammersmith
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KellyI believe your edits to Mike Bickle contravene wikipedia policy. Would you read WP:SPS and let me know if you agree? Using Tricia Tillin (for example) as a footnote wouldn't be a good enough source for it to be reliable, because anyone can publish their views and claim to be a source. Also, according to WP:GRAPEVINE it is important not to make defamatory accusations against living persons, and that material must be removed immediately. Calling someone's ministry "cultic in nature" amounts to this. Also, the word "cult" should be used in its scholarly sense whenever possible. A third issue is that we should avoid weasel words WP:AWW. Saying something is "widely considered controversial" amounts to this. I'm sorry that I have to keep removing this material, and hope you will understand. If you were able to refer to the sections I have suggested, I think together we could improve the article. Hyper3 (talk) 23:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Hyper. Allow me to take your talking points, well..."point-by-point", if I may:
- Calling someone's ministry "cultic in nature" amounts to this. Also, the word "cult" should be used in its scholarly sense whenever possible.
If you re-read what I wrote, I didn't conclude that Bickle and his ministries actually are "cultic in nature", I said that there are those (and those with experience in the area of cults) who see his leadership as cultic in nature. In fact, if you do a web search, you will find dozens of results which address what others see as cult-like activity and teaching by Bickle, in Bickle's church and at IHOP-KC. And please...there's no defamatory statements being made here - if he's on the lists of cult-watchers (and he is, believe me), then the information is important and factual and even encyclopedic but definitely not defamatory. I don't see any problem with including that fact in the article whatsoever - in fact, including that information rounds out the article to a more NPOV framework - deliberately *not* including it is what makes the article sanitized and unbalanced.
The issue is not truth, but verifiability, according to wikipedia standards. Of course many people have views, both for and against Bickle. The encyclopaedia project doesn't allow statements in the way you have explained. Every statement should be backed up with a verifiable source. To say that others think Bickle cultic is still potentially defamatory against a living person. I don't see in your answer any reference to the wikipedia rules I directed you to. Your argument is with them, not me.
- Saying something is "widely considered controversial" amounts to this
There's no weasling going on here - the fact is that the Latter Rain theology and movement have been and still are widely controversial amongst mainline churches, some charismatic churches, and amongst Christian theologians. Heck, even the AOG condemned Latter Rain theology in 1949. I think it's a good idea to include Bickle's statement that he's trying to distance himself from Latter Rain, however (and this is a big however), when so much of what he teaches revolves around Joel's Army, personal prophecy, and typological interpretation of Scripture, it's no wonder so many insist that Bickle is Latter Rain based on what he teaches, what he does, and by whom he has been influenced. Look, it's no differant than saying Barack Obama's policies are socialistic in nature - while Obama has never come out and said he's a Socialist and there has been no official declaration that he desires to see the US become a Socialist country, it's hard to deny that the things he has said (Joe the Plumber) and the things he has already done (taking over GM) and the things he would like to do (a nationalized health care system) do not have Socialism written all over them (not to mention the Socialist/Marxist people in his past he says were his mentors). I'm not saying Bickle is Latter Rain, what is being said is that what he says and does and teaches and preaches is *very* Latter Rain in nature. But hey...don't forget that I'm not the only one who's saying it...
again, you need to address the wikipedia standard WP:AWW. I agree that many have disagreed with Latter Rain Theology - if you were able to read my PhD in progress on charismatic churches in the UK you would find that I am also one of them! I can tell you enjoy wikipedia, and it is worth learning that according to wikipedia standards, we can't make statements that are not verifiable in this way.
- Using Tricia Tillin (for example) as a footnote wouldn't be a good enough source for it to be reliable, because anyone can publish their views and claim to be a source.
First of all, Tillin wasn't the only reference I included. Secondly, anyone can and most do publish their views online, in blogs, and in books - if those views are diametrically opposed to a particular viewpoint, that's called a differing or dissenting viewpoint. And don't forget, we're talking theologcial ideologies here. It's not as if theology outside of historical events or archeological discoveries proving certain historical events is an exact science - it's steeped in opinion - differing and otherwise! From what I have seen of many, many other articles in Wikipedia regarding theological, Biblical, sectarian, etc. beliefs and understanding, it is quite common and perfectly acceptible (especially with controversial or fringe beliefs) to also have in that article references to other viewpoints. But I've got to be honest...I am sensing here that because the references I included are not complmentary to Bickle and his ministries that is the reason why you want them removed. So...in light of that - I have to ask if you are in any way affilliated with Bickle and/or any of his ministries (or any of his theologies and associates) which would make you decidedly biased.
I used Tillin as an example. I believe the same criticism applied to the other two footnotes. Again, wikipedia rules are the issue, and I think you should read them more thoroughly. Of course there is a wide range of theological debate, and where you can find an appropriate footnote in a scholarly journal, book or newspaper, then it will no doubt stand. As the rules say "articles should be based upon reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." If you were to find something with this level of accuracy, then it would be hard to remove it.
- I think together we could improve the article.
I hope that together we can improve the article. However, if your idea of improving the article is making it completely favorable to Bickle and removing anything factual that might be seen as unfavorable to him or IHOP-KC, working together is not something I'm interested in. Thanks for the discussion - I look forward to your replies. SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 01:06, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My idea of improving the article involves keeping the guidelines involved. There are so many disagreements and opinions in religion based articles that the only way to conduct a productive dialogue about such encyclopaedia entries is to respect the protocol. Where this happens, I think there is a genuine contribution. I'm not sure your last comment (or previous implications of bias) are good examples of WP:AGF... It is important to assume that others who contribute are attempting to do the right thing. Its best not to insinuate bias, or make derogatory comments about other wikipedia users. I'm sure you would want the same. In fact, you have removed much that was unfavourable to Bickle, some of which should probably be restored to regain the npov... Hyper3 (talk) 09:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, there was no implication of bias in my last comments to you - I asked you specifically if you were afilliated with Bickle, IHOP, or any of his affiliates in the interest of Wikipedia policy regarding conflict of interest (and, BTW, these are questions you still have not answered). But...moving on - the recent changes to the Mike Bickle article are, IMO, quite good and show a decent rounding out and balance to the article. Thanks for taking the time to do them - I think the edits have solved this mini-dispute quite well. BTW - I am still quite interested in your answers to my questions. I hope you will take the time to answer them. Thanks - SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 17:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to get your input as the the capitalzation of pentecostals and charismatics, especially as they are used the the article Charismatic Movement. I would lean to capitalizing Pentecostals and not charismatics. What is your judgment? R/T-รัก-ไทย (talk) 04:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wrexham & Shropshire has become the first train operating company to sell Oyster cards to passengers before they arrive in London.
Art on the on the Underground, London Underground's art programme, has won an international award for culture on public transport systems.
Transport for London have announced a five month improvement scheme for the A316 Richmond Circus road junction, with increased accessability for cyclists and pedestrians.
The Mayor of London, Boris Johnson has tested London's first air-conditioned tube train.
New superhero artwork has been added to Charing Cross and Embankment tube stations.
Due to the ongoing tube strike, and the lack of Chiltern services, over 70,000 football supporters were without transport after the World Cup qualifier at Wembley Stadium.
Union RMT announced a 48 hour tube strike, which began at 18:59 on Tuesday 9 June.
The new Three Mills Lock has opened in Bromley-by-Bow.
Transport for London has announced that six bus manufacturers have qualified to bid for the contract to design and build the new bus for London.
To aid overseas travellers, London Underground has upgraded all touch screen ticket machines to 17 different languages.
May 2009
TFL launches search for new, free London morning newspaper to replace The Metro which ends its contract on March 2010.
Victoria Coach Station has become the first organisation in the London transport sector to achieve the Government's Customer Service Excellence (CSE) standard award.
The construction of Crossrail has begun at Canary Wharf station.
The Mayor of London has started a cycle revolution; all are welcome to join the events hosted to reduce impact on the environment.
New pedestrian crossings at Marble Arch, have allowed a "more mobile service" around the station.
Crime is down by 8% on the tube since last year.
Work to build the new Crossrail station at Tottenham Court Road begins on 15 May; rebuilding work will cost over £1 billion and the new ticket hall will be six times the size of the existing one
The replacement of all trains on the Piccadilly line by 2014 is announced
A flyover bridge at Canning Town is due to be put in place in late May as part of the DLR extension along the former North London Line from Canning Town to Stratford
April 2009
The Thames boat services are to be made easier with for example, more integration, a new ferry service from London Bridge to Canary Wharf, extending Tower Pier and acceptance of Oyster Pay as you go.
The London Overground's Stratford platforms will open later this month
Taxi fares in London increase by 3.4%
A bird photo competition, with partnership between tfl and RSPB, is launched
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It has certainly been a fantastic month for featured articles, with no less than three articles being promoted in June, Albert Bridge, London, Battersea Bridge and Great Northern, Piccadilly and Brompton Railway. We would like to thank all the editors who worked so hard to get these articles where they are now. Richmond Bridge, London, which was promoted in May, was featured on the main page on 17 June. Chelsea Bridge has been nominated for featured status- I invite you to review or comment on the article here.
Concluding the news on featured articles, the List of London Underground stations article went through another featured list review. Fortunately, the list was able to keep its featured status.
The project gained two new members in June, Cɧrɩs and Trainzamania, bringing our total membership up to 71. We'll soon make it to 100!
As usual all suggestions to improving the metropolitan are welcome so if you have one we would be happy to hear from you.
This is my first time editing the newsletter, so I hope everything's alright. I've added a bit more colour to the assessment section so that GA and FA/FL stand out more. Any further improvements are welcome, so please comment on what could be done better. Suggestions for alterations to the layout of the newsletter will be appreciated.
I would like to thank all the members of the WikiProject who helped create this issue and all those who have contributed to the articles which have made featured status in the past month.
...that Chelsea Bridge was little used at night when it first opened, because of its owners' policy of only turning the lighting on if Queen Victoria was spending the night in London?
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48 hour strike disrupts main line services from Liverpool Street
The Victoria Underground station upgrade has received planning approval from the Secretary of State for Transport
East Thames Buses to be sold by TfL to London General Transport Services Limited
The First 2009 Stock train starts carrying passengers in service on the Victoria line
Visitors to Piccadilly Circus will be able to see Tube service updates on the Coca-Cola advertising board
Boris Johnson unveils the first of the new London Overground trains
June 2009
Wrexham & Shropshire has become the first train operating company to sell Oyster cards to passengers before they arrive in London.
Art on the on the Underground, London Underground's art programme, has won an international award for culture on public transport systems.
Transport for London have announced a five month improvement scheme for the A316 Richmond Circus road junction, with increased accessability for cyclists and pedestrians.
The Mayor of London, Boris Johnson has tested London's first air-conditioned tube train.
New superhero artwork has been added to Charing Cross and Embankment tube stations.
Due to the ongoing tube strike, and the lack of Chiltern services, over 70,000 football supporters were without transport after the World Cup qualifier at Wembley Stadium.
Union RMT announced a 48 hour tube strike, which began at 18:59 on Tuesday 9 June.
The new Three Mills Lock has opened in Bromley-by-Bow.
Transport for London has announced that six bus manufacturers have qualified to bid for the contract to design and build the new bus for London.
To aid overseas travellers, London Underground has upgraded all touch screen ticket machines to 17 different languages.
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After the surge of new articles in June, July has been a quieter month with just one new featured article, Chelsea Bridge (well done again Iridescent), and one new good article, Charles Pearson. We therefore, currently have 10 Featured Articles, 1 Featured List and 10 Good Articles in the Project. Unfortunately, one former Good Article, Docklands Light Railway has been demoted to B-class. We have 110 B-class articles and it would nice to see some of those improved and taken through the Good Article review process - so come on guys, get those books out and get fact checking.
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...that Chelsea Bridge was little used at night when it first opened, because of its owners' policy of only turning the lighting on if Queen Victoria was spending the night in London?
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Your behavior at that article definitely does consitute edit warring. Please review the policy. Note that you have violated the three revert rule WP:3RR, and you can be blocked for that. Born Gay (talk) 22:50, 29 August 2009 (UTC) Having looked at the policy again, I am taking back the 3RR accusation, but your behavior at that article is clearly unacceptable edit warring. Your changes are not constructive and are not supported by the sources used. Born Gay (talk) 23:03, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rather, the reverse is true. I am responding to your critique, by trying to improve the article, and you are reverting me out of hand.Hyper3 (talk) 23:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is edit warring if you make the change repeatedly without discussing it on the talk page. That's what the policy is meant to prevent. I reverted your edits because they misused sources and introduced original research. Born Gay (talk) 23:10, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the thanks. Your edit was exactly what I was waiting for to make the touchy section work. I intentionally left it that way, hoping someone other than myself would pitch in because I didn't feel like getting into a debate or edit war to explain the obvious. I'm also glad you caught the "parallel" part: same direction but not the same thing. The first time I heard the "It's the same thing" comment was 20 years ago, and honestly, it still amazes me how easily some (white, gay) people equate any race-related oppression with being gay. I imagine it shows how ignorant some minorities themselves can be on civil rights. For example, 5 years ago when I was living in Canada, on live TV a fairly well-known gay researcher from Québec equated marriage rights discrimination to Apartheid! At worst, it shows how cognitively lax anyone can be. Let's hope for more cooperate and productive edits like yours and mine. --CJ Withers (talk) 03:25, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In the case of the article on conversion therapy, it looks like both "sides" have their own agendas and cannot see clearly enough to let the facts speak for themselves. So, I won't be working on the conversion therapy article not only because it's out-of-control but also because I am not "dedicated to fairness", with "fairness" meaning making sure two "sides" feel content or derserve justice. Instead, I work towards representing facts as neutrally as possible. Thanks for your heads-up and I hope to be doing some more cooperative editing with you on articles in which the only higher authority is the non-righteous truth. --CJ Withers (talk) 17:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please be kind enough to use my user name, not some version thereof. Thank you. :-)
Also, please re-read what I wrote. It seemed you either read something into my reply or underestimated the mess and perpetual time-bomb that Conversion therapy, the article, is. Here is my reply again but in one sentence: I will not embark on a pseudo-article, which in reality is a finger-pointing debate that no amount of neutral intervention can change for now. This includes the homophobia article, regardless of any stance. Remember, the point of an article is to describe, not (equally) represent all views. If you choose, try perusing this latter article and you'll see what I mean. Feel free to suggest other articles that can indeed profit and bloom from a neutralization. --CJ Withers (talk) 21:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Introduction of pink Oyster validators may mean cheaper fares for people avoiding Zone 1 if they touch in Midway through their journey, at some key interchanges.
TfL will launch Countdown, a new sevice which shows when and where the next bus is for mobile and internet users.
August
More bendy buses removed
Upminster tube depot celebrates 50 years
New cameras to ease traffic
New Travel Support card launched for people with certain disabilities
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General
After the surge of new articles in June, July has been a quieter month with just one new featured article, Chelsea Bridge (well done again Iridescent), and one new good article, Charles Pearson. We therefore, currently have 10 Featured Articles, 1 Featured List and 10 Good Articles although two of thse are under reassessment. Unfortunately, one former Good Article, Docklands Light Railway was demoted to B-class in July and in early August this was followed by Jean Charles de Menezes. We have 90 B-class articles and it would nice to see some of those improved as suggested before.
However, overall assessment of articles appears to have dropped with 43% of articles now unasssessed for quality. Also, 35% of articles have no assessment or importance rating at all. This is quite an increase whereas it was only 1/4 at the start of the year.
On the Portal, the only active areas seem to be the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems to be infrequently updated with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter!
As usual all suggestions to improving the Metropolitan are welcome so if you have one we would be happy to hear from you.
A major move request was done by MRSC, who has recently returned, at Talk:London Paddington station#Requested move. The move involves the format of names of many London stations. Please see the discussion.
Mattdickinson brought up an interesting point on correcting Live departure boards
...that Chelsea Bridge was little used at night when it first opened, because of its owners' policy of only turning the lighting on if Queen Victoria was spending the night in London?
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Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Born Gay (talk) 20:42, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You appear to be trying to open a mediation case over conversion therapy. Doing this without informing me of it directly is inappropriate, and so is presenting the issue in a biased way. What you have done with that page, stating for instance that, "Conversion therapy suffers from many npov problems; however one editor reverts everything to do with a minority view, and is not attempting to find consensus. When something similar happens to him, he calls it vandalism", I do not find acceptable. Born Gay (talk) 00:04, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that there are issues between us. So we need outside help. I'm not really sure how to get it, as there seems some reluctance to get involved. But I'm trying. Hyper3 (talk) 08:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you wish to get outside help, then state the issues in a neutral way on the mediation page instead of trying to turn it into an attack page against me. Stop vandalizing the article, as you did here [2]. Stop using edit summaries to make sarcastic personal attacks against me ("We need to reach consensus on the talk page first, as Born Gay has taught us all from wikipedia policy"). Regarding your readdition of several sources to the bibliography [3], I removed those sources because none of them are used to source any statements in the article. Born Gay (talk) 08:43, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
[1] Add your side to the mediation page, if you wish. [2] What I call editing, you call vandalism. That's why we need help. [3] I presume you no longer believe that consensus needs reaching on the talk page in a disputed edit, as that is the way you are behaving. I will act accordingly, as before encountering you, I believed that to be the way forward... Be Bold! [4] Fine, I agree. You have made your case. Hyper3 (talk) 10:40, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't attempt to place your "side" in a section dealing with your views on the matter. You instead presented it as though it were somehow a neutral description of the disagreement. Please don't do that. It won't help you make your case to any mediator, and I don't appreciate it. I have always said that consensus needs establishing on talk; you've persistently made inappropriate edits without attempting to reach consensus, which is why I've felt free to revert them. Born Gay (talk) 20:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I comment on your talk page because I am now finding it very difficult to comment on the conversion therapy talk page.
Would you please stop adding quotations from NARTH to the lead, as you did here [4]? The quotation is stupid and completely pointless. Obviously if NARTH is "advocating secular forms of conversion therapy" then they would believe that "providing psychological care to those distressed by unwanted homosexual attractions" is appropriate. The quotation is not "notable" (which concerns what topics may have articles created about them, see WP:NOTE) and nor would it be relevant if it was.
Regarding your "Yes" vote to including Aesthetic Realism in the history section - have you thought about this at all carefully? Aesthetic Realism is not "clearly relevant" because sources that deal with the history of conversion therapy don't mention it. It might have a very limited degree of relevance, but even that is not "clear." Declaring that sources may be "weak" because they do not mention it is a poor reason for adding material that violates due weight.
Regarding criticism of ex-gay treatment, you say that there should be criticism of "ex-gay SOCE". To be clear about it, what there should be is criticism of ex-gay conversion therapy, because that's what the article is about, not SOCE. Your not liking Haldeman as a source just is not relevant; it's an important and influential source that must be there. If he deals with sex scandals, then some brief information about that must be there. Yarhouse is not appropriate material for the article.
Please do not use article talk pages for attacks on editors or aggressive failure to AGF / personal attacks / similar unproductive verbiage. I have removed two inappropriate posts by you now, and suggest before you post a third, you read WP:BATTLE and consider carefully whether your post will be read as trying to improve an article, or trying to pick a fight with another editor. If you have any questions, please post them here and I will be happy to help you. KillerChihuahua?!?Advice23:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You'll have to help me here. We are all trying to follow the conversation, and I want others to see my response to BornGay. Why is it vandalism to post on the talk page? You should show me the wikipedia policy. Merely writing in CAPITAL LETTERS does not make policy. I do believe there are guidelines on that, I think they call it shouting. I can hear you perfectly well!! Hyper3 (talk)
Generally, caps means a policy shortcut. AGF = WP:AGF.
Your post[5] was titled "Replies to born Gay" and as such, belongs on his talk page. If it is to all editors regarding the article, it would be appropriate on the talk page and I would not have removed it. You accuse him of "trying to control what I add or not" which, translated, simply means there is a content dispute which you have made personal. You accused him of control a second time, with "You have no right to control the definition of the page in a strict way of your own making. Wikipedia is about the wisdom of crowds, not experts who split hairs. Edit on scholarpedia" - you have not only attacked him again, you have exposed your own misunderstanding of our policies and spoken in a somewhat rude way about insistence on good sourcing - something which I assure you is policy. KillerChihuahua?!?Advice23:35, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've noticed that you have spoken to him rather robustly at times, so I think you know what I'm dealing with. So help me do it right. (As it happens, I'm in favour of wikipedia policies even though it may not always favour my views.) In this instance, I think the article is about a minority viewpoint, and so should reflect the minority viewpoint appropriately. With due weight and appropriately verified, properly sourced and all, I understand. However, everything that might explain what the minority viewpoint gets rejected with a variety of wiki-alphabet soup. This is all predicated upon the thought that the article is about certain meanings of conversion therapy and not others. The reparative therapy page has been merged with this one, yet references to reparative therapy are not considered relevant to conversion therapy. I don't want to take out stuff, (well, some) just provide appropriate weight. I've tried to get help from noticeboards, tried to get mediation, but got nowhere. This is a fun hobby to me, and the difficulty has made it more interesting, but I'm wondering how anyone sorts out something like this, or whether it really is possible to dominate a page with clever editing, as some commentators have suggested. And its likely that I'm wrong and don't understand how to play the game; but it would be great to work out one way or another! Hyper3 (talk) 23:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Heh... "rather robustly"... nice euphemism, much appreciated.
Howsomever, a warning about policy is not the same as accusations of "control" attempts, you see the difference? Regarding reparative therapy, was there a merge discussion? Even if not, if the articles were merged then it should be included. What about a move to "Reparative and Conversion theraphies" leaving redirects all over the place? I'm tossing this out, mind you, if the idea has merit it must be discussed on the talk page.
Hyper3, with all respect, the article's not about a minority (pro-conversion therapy) viewpoint. It's about a particular controversial practice, and it needs to reflect the mainstream view on that practice. The NARTH quotation, in my view, does not add anything helpful or necessary to explain their viewpoint, because the description of NARTH that was already there covers the same territory. Supporting conversion therapy and advocating treatment of people distressed by unwanted homosexual attractions are the same thing, and there's no reason to state the same thing twice over, in slightly different ways. I've never said that references to reparative therapy aren't relevant to the conversion therapy article; actually, I agree that they are. Reparative therapy is sometimes regarded as a distinct form of conversion therapy, so there may be a case for turning the redirect page it currently is into a distinct article again; however, that would be low on my list of priorities. The current title of Conversion therapy is appropriate. Born Gay (talk) 00:11, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You say its not, I say it is, blah. You should answer my question: what would that page be called? If we were creating a page on the minority viewpoint that SOCE works? You won't, I know because the only answer is "conversion therapy."Hyper3 (talk) 00:15, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Guys... I think I see the crux of the disagreement, and its primarily semantics. The article is about Conversion therapy, BG is correct. And the method's usefulness, to be very loose with my verbiage, is... fringe, or disputed at best, Hyper is right about that. Surely there are grounds for discussing how to improve the article without getting into fights? It sounds to me like BG is talking about a table, and Hyper's talking about what a table is used for, or made of - they are both appropriate to an article on a table, yes? KillerChihuahua?!?Advice00:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to ask Hyper3 to stop adding the Jones/Yarhouse study. Its own authors say that it's not about conversion therapy, and that its relevance to conversion therapy is small at most. The material you want to add would have to be rewritten to even begin to be acceptable, and even in a rewritten form it would still be WP:UNDUE. Also, please do not violate WP:POINT with edit summaries. Born Gay (talk) 01:10, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
But it is SOCE, and so it is really. Your unfounded strict interpretations have not been accepted on the talk page as consensus, so why do you persevere with them? Hyper3 (talk) 01:13, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter if it is about SOCE. SOCE is not the subject of the article. I'm doing the best I can to uphold the content policies on an extremely difficult article, and have explained the reasons for my positions as clearly as I can. Born Gay (talk) 01:15, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Your two recent edit summaries on conversion therapy have been inappropriate. Please stop doing that. It creates unnecessary aggravation, and isn't acceptable in terms of policy. Born Gay (talk) 01:19, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
clearly not; your appropriate response is to apologize for offending him.
On the other hand, BG, could you pick your battles? Lets concentrate on the content and try to ignore the minutia, which has little relevance and merely adds noise to the larger dispute(s). KillerChihuahua?!?Advice01:38, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, props from me for an attempt at humor, however BG's complaint/request makes it clear he finds it inappropriate. As he is the offended party, I suggest you apologize. You're not admitting ill motive; merely saying you're sorry he was aggravated by your attempt at humor. KillerChihuahua?!?Advice01:46, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hyper3, I am replying here to your comments on talk:conversion therapy. I would not normally do this, but again I'm finding it necessary because the comments I tried to place on the talk page did not get through. You say that, "There needs to be a place for material that falls outside the scope of the article if it is defined narrowly"; my view is that the Conversion therapy article is only about conversion therapy, and that for the purposes of Wikipedia, conversion therapy is whatever reliable sources say it is. The article needs to be kept strictly on topic, regardless of whether information about other change methods exists elsewhere on Wikipedia or not. Putting information about those other methods into Sexual orientation change efforts would be premature and a serious mistake when SOCE is not yet the standard term, and may never become standard. "SOCE" so far is really only about the APA's views in one report. We need to be discussing other issues as well, such as the quotation from NARTH in the lead; my position is still that it is not necessary and should be removed. If you believe the quotation is necessary, could you please explain why? Do you intend to continue readding the quotation, if I remove it again? BG 22:38, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I think it is very important to equally present NARTH's view on everything, but I personally think we should first go after some low hanging fruit. The APA is already super liberal, and very much against CT, but the problem is BG took the liberal APA position and moved it even more to the left, so that even direct quotes from the APA seem to contradict what the article says. It is much easier to argue the inclusion of mainstream medical position than the inclusion of NARTH, especially if we have help from the Medial Cabinet. Don't get me wrong, I totally agree that both should be presented equally, but at least the article should accurately represent the APA, and we should get more support if we take that approach. I mean, self-determination is a big thing that the article doesn't even convey and is a place where the APA and NARTH agree upon. Also, there is no point in trying to talk reason into BG. He is only trying to put across his own point of view and does not care about logic. The verdict is still out on Mish, but from working with him/her it seems s/he will actually back down if s/he doesn't have a logical argument, where lacking a logical argument never seems to stop BG. Joshuajohanson (talk) 23:42, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Joshuajohanson, you write, "Also, there is no point in trying to talk reason into BG. He is only trying to put across his own point of view and does not care about logic." Funny you should say that, because I have exactly the same impression about you. I've noticed that you apppear to think it's not necessary to justify your positions with reasons, and that when you do give reasons, they tend to be wrong or irrelevant. Giving responses like, "It's good content", in response to an explanation that something violates WP:SYNTH, for example, is totally ridiculous. If someone points out that something is synth, it's up to you to show that it isn't synth, not to wave the problem aside. What were you trying to say, Joshua - that the fact that something is "good content" shows that it isn't synth, or that it doesn't really matter that it is synth and that content policy can just be ignored? BGtalk01:40, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
JJ - actually its not really in NARTH that I'm so interested, but being able to express CT within the term of all parties. Being able to say "unwanted same-sex attraction" somewhere in the lead would help! I think your strategy of presenting APA material on self-determination is a good one. Hyper3 (talk) 09:14, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In the above difference link, you accuse a fellow editor volunteer of ownership and obstructionism, and suggest that they be prevented from contributing to an issue. That is not on. Please adjust your comments to focus solely on the content with neither direct nor indirect sniping at anyone else. Anyone who reads the talkpage already knows that you and BG are having a dispute - please restrict it to the mediation page. - 2/0 (cont.) 17:13, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for being more direct. I do actually think all of those things are correct, and hope, to prove so. If I can't I will apologise. Sometimes the WP:DUCK test is appropriate. Hyper3 (talk) 17:58, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Considering how long it usually takes to reason with Born Gay, I am surprised at how quickly he admitted to sock puppetry and how quickly he got banned. I had begun to suspect sock puppetry when he was so sure about the actions of other users, especially given his unique brand of logic. Good job at tracking it down and being bold enough to make the accusation. I think we can all breathe a sigh of relief and start working on improving wikipedia. Thanks! Joshuajohanson (talk) 21:34, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good work resolving this matter. I should have noticed him when he started editing. We'll all be more skeptical next time a new editors shows interest in that article. Will Bebacktalk21:58, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
New report shows Countdown could be solution to pedestrian confusion at traffic lights
Route P13 has been revised to improve reliability for passengers
September
Introduction of pink Oyster validators may mean cheaper fares for people avoiding Zone 1 if they touch in Midway through their journey, at some key interchanges.
TfL will launch Countdown, a new sevice which shows when and where the next bus is for mobile and internet users.
TfL's Lost Property Office celebrates 75 years
London's taxi drivers take a large group of seriously ill children on a trip of a lifetime to Disneyland Paris
Strike threat lifted as RMT leadership accepts Victoria line working patterns
New edition of 'Poems on the Underground' hits bookstores
New Travel Information Centre opens at Euston
'No reason' for Victoria line strike, says London Underground
Transport for London tightens guidelines for licensing taxi and private hire drivers in London
TfL calls on PPP Arbiter to set a fair price for Tube Lines contract
Ian Brown, the Managing Director of Transport for London's (TfL) London Rail directorate and Chairman of Docklands Light Railway received an award for making 'an outstanding personal contribution to the rail industry'
Free Guided Walks across the Capital on 26-27 September 2009
Urgent utility works in Victoria for next eight weeks
Central London roads close as weekend of cycling comes to London
Work progressing on Hanger Lane bridges
Ten rail stations to be managed by Transport for London
TfL campaign urges drivers to 'give motorcyclists a second thought' and cut road deaths
Saddle up for Cycle Fridays this week and you may end up on the winners' podium at the Tour of Britain
Mike Brown named as new Managing Director of London Underground
London Underground staff turn the Tube green, purple and pink
Giant eye warns drug drivers to stay away from the wheel
TfL agrees £1bn loan for Crossrail from European Investment Bank
Introduction of pink Oyster route validators at selected stations
Better bus information on the way
Writer Sarah Butler discovers Underground literary talent
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September has seen an increase in the number of articles as well as October. There was only the promotion Timeline of the London Underground to featured list status so congratulations to those involved. October so far has been eventful in other areas except for the assessment side.
On an assessment at the start of October the overall assessment showed that (and still is at the time of writing) there are 41% of articles have no assessment or importance rating at all.This seems to be getting worse compatred to to the start of the year when this figure was only at 25%.
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Tyw7 has contributed well to this edition with the addition of a gallery section which may be present in future editions as well as updating the transport news. Thank you for this.
DavidCane has also done some reorganising of the whole project after little response on the status on various pages from 2 months ago. This has helped in some ways and thanks to him.
...that Belsize Park station is one of the only eight stations in London to have a deep level bomb shelter beneath it?
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Hyper3, you are approaching 3RR on New Religious Movements. Please engage the talk page where discussion about the phrase "in religious studies" has already been taking place. If there is a policy relevant to it's inclusion, which I am not aware of, please bring it up there. Regards.PelleSmith (talk) 20:44, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It clearly is not an agreed upon change since other editors don't agree with providing any context. If you don't want to revert yourself there is another appropriate forum for this matter.PelleSmith (talk) 21:04, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BRD suggests dealing with each editor, one at a time, to create consensus. If you are saying you don't agree, then I will of course revert and look forward to your response on the talk page. Hyper3 (talk)
None of the editors reverting you, including myself, agree to add this context to the lead. I've argued repeatedly that it is actually confusing and counterproductive. When you started edit warring there was a thread already going about this change. I'm not sure how this is within the WP:BRD essay's suggested mode of behavior. Bold, revert, discuss ... not bold, revert, bold again, revert, bold again ...PelleSmith (talk) 21:27, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You directed me to a different field, which I agreed... but now you have confirmed that this wasn't an agreement. So discuss. Hyper3 (talk) 21:32, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on New religious movement. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. tedder (talk) 22:09, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I made my case for my changes in my edit summaries. I am waiting for you to make a case anywhere, either in edit summaries or on the talk page. --Dr.enh (talk) 02:02, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
New report shows Countdown could be solution to pedestrian confusion at traffic lights
Route P13 has been revised to improve reliability for passengers
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There has been a general increase in articles. However again there is not much to report other than the Baker Street and Waterloo Railway a candidate for promotion to Good Article whilst British Airways was promoted. September has seen an increase in the number of articles as well as October. October so far has been eventful in other areas except for the assessment side during the start but it has been relatively quiet also in November.
On an assessment at the start of October the overall assessment showed that there were 41% of articles that had no assessment of quality or importance rating at all. This seems to be getting worse compatred to to the start of the year when this figure was only at 25%.
On the Portal, the most active areas seem to be the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems to be infrequently updated with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter! Did you know is now being improved.
As usual all suggestions to improving the Metropolitan are welcome so if you have one we would be happy to hear from you.
Tyw7 has contributed well to the previous edition with the addition of a gallery section which may be present in future editions as well as updating the transport news. Thank you for this. Any suggestions welcome for also updating of images.
Huge thank you to DavidCane for helping to reorganising of the whole project after little response on the status on various pages from a few months ago.
...that Belsize Park station is one of the only eight stations in London to have a deep level bomb shelter beneath it?
…that Mile End tube station is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?
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Your reverted eight of my edits with the edit summary, "restore unexplained removal of large amounts of text: please explain on talk page." Every one of those edits had an sufficient and clear edit summary. In addition, the edits were also discussed at [6]. Your assertion of "unexplained" is uncivil, as it implies I am editing in bad faith. In fact, you are the one who did not provided a relevant explanation for your reversion WP:REVERT. --Dr.enh (talk) 03:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ING direct will sponsor free travel on the Underground at New Year's Eve
Maida Vale tube station received the National Rail Heritage Award due to its modernisation
November
Blackwall Tunnel temporarily closed because a vehicle caught fire
A new ticket hall is installed at Kings Cross St Pancras station giving a 30 per cent increase in capacity with more entrances and escalators as well as lifts installed giving most of the remaining lines at this station step-free access for disabled passengers. The exception to this is the Northern Line with works still occurring until mid 2010.
New bridges installed at Limehouse station to provide easier interchange between DLR and National Rail services
A new campaign is launched warning Londoners of unbooked minicabs.
South Croydon railway station is to cut its power from the National Grid and instead have its CCTV and lighting powered by solar panels to be installed. This is part of an effort to go green and have a big cut in carbon emissions
The Docklands Light Railway celebrates 10 years of its Lewisham extension
Oyster Pay As You Go now accepted on Thames Clipper services
Oyster Pay As You Go to be accepted on all National Rail services in London from 2 January 2010
The TfL Lost Property Office has donated a lot of new toys to the Salvation Army to help disadvantaged children in south London
During the festive period, London Overground will be operating extra services on Saturdays to help Christmas shoppers
Bendy buses to be removed from route 38 to be replaced by double-decker buses
New traffic light timings in Camden Town on trial, giving green light to those within speed limit and red light to speeders
Coca-cola to sponsor LU busking over Christmas period
new Surface Transport and Traffic Operations Centre opened by Duke of York
Brixton Hill gyratory removed
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Baker Street and Waterloo Railway was promoted to good article. Well done to DavidCane. This now also on as a candidate for featured article. Otherwise this month has been again fairly quiet. The portal went through a candidacy for featured portal with not much luck. The areas of the portal are becoming more active with the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems has started to be updated again but with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter. Did you know is being improved.
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I am sorry for the previous editions for being late as well as this one due to being busy
Thank you to Sunil060902 for the gallery update
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Rotherhithe Tunnel to close from Sunday to Thursday nights for the next three weeks for installation of pedestrian signage, power cables and additional pollution monitoring equipment.
December 2009
Oyster Pay-as-you-go introduced across all London stations in early January
Wrightbus to build the routemaster-based new London bus design
RMT accepts London Underground's staff payment deal
Closure of Fareham Street means bus diversions. This is so that there can be construction works on the Crossrail interchange at Tottenham Court Road station.
Arbiter finds that costs of Tube Lines upgrade closer to London Underground ltd estimate than theirs.
Leigible London scheme introduced to make information more available for pedestrians. This is first being used in the borough of Richmond upon Thames
When the London cycle hire scheme is launched, the first half hour will be free
Over £3 million to be spent on improving loca transport in Merton borough and other funding allocated to ther boroughs across London for transport improvements
Borough High Street to be northbopund only untril July due to major utility and gas works
Redevelopment of Tottenham Court Road to begin in early 2010
Permits for roadworks to be introduced on January 11th 2010
ING direct sponsor free travel on the Underground at New Year's Eve
Maida Vale tube station received the National Rail Heritage Award due to its modernisation
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Baker Street and Waterloo Railway is now a candidate for featured article. Otherwise this and the last last couple of months have again been fairly quiet. The portal went through a candidacy for featured portal with not much luck. The areas of the portal are becoming more active with the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems has started to be updated again but with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter. Did you know is being improved.
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Hello and Happy New Year from me and generally the London Transport project.
Thank you to Sunil060902 for the December gallery update
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Discussion arose over the addition or removal of succession boxes showing the present London Underground lines and their histories as well as former services. Another discussion arose on boxes showing stations layouts
Separate issues arose over the population of aboandoned London Undeground projects categories and categories on single station platforms
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Motorcycling is to get safer with the creation of the London Motorcycle Policy Unit, a division of the Metropolitan Police that is a new dedicated team of motorcycle safety experts working to reduce motorcycle casualties across the Capital.
Major improvement works set for the New Cross area
Smart Travel Sutton scheme sees a 75% increase in cycling and sustainable transport usage in the brough of Sutton
Taxi fares to increase by 2.3 per cent to meet higher running costs
New Pegasus crossings intalled over A3 between Wimbledon Common and Richmond Park
Bounds Green has gained Grade II Listed status from English Heritage
January 2010
A new walking route from Covent Garden to Holborn is completed, with a public space at Great Queen Street at its centre
RMT strike planned
London Undeground celebrate's the Royal Society's 350th Anniverseary with a set of poems
DLR Bank platforms reopen in February following upgrade works
Investment Programme Advisory Group set up
Bus routes 10 and 33 will become 24 hour services
Life stories are introduced on the Jubilee Line
Average speed cameras to be trialled on the A13
Safety, lighting and communication improvement works are to begin february to bring Blackwall Tunnel to 21st century standards
Twelve Outer London boroughs are selected to become cycling havens
Grants are given to community groups to boost cycling
New posters on the Underground network help to promote face equality to help tackle stereotypes on children with disfigurements
East London Line extension nearly complete
Rotherhithe Tunnel to close from Sunday to Thursday nights for the next three weeks for installation of pedestrian signage, power cables and additional pollution monitoring equipment.
Oyster Pay-as-you-go introduced across all London stations in early January
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London General articulated Citaro passing Trafalgar Square on route 453.
Arriva London articulated Citaro turning in Shaftesbury Avenue, on now double-deck route 38.
Three Transdev London buses lined up, decorated for the Kingston park and ride.
A Northern Line train leaving the tunnel just north of Hendon Central station.
A Greyhound UK coach, usually running between London, Southampton and Portsmouth, seen in Cowes on the Isle of Wight on a promotional visit.
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Hello and Happy New Year from me and generally the London Transport project.
Thank you to Arriva436 for the February gallery update
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Upminster Bridge tube station was promoted to good article status in early February. Well done to all those involved. This is apparently the first tube station to be accepted as a Good Article.
All articles have been assessed of their quality with only some of the articles' importance to the project yet to be determined. Well done on the assessment.
Discussion arose over the addition or removal of succession boxes showing the present London Underground lines and their histories as well as former services. Another discussion arose on boxes showing stations layouts
Separate issues arose over the population of aboandoned London Undeground projects categories and categories on single station platforms
New guidelines have been proposed for railway accidents. Please see WP:RAILCRASH.
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Transport Select Committee confirms the London Underground's Public-Private Partnership has not been delivering value for money.
£9.2 billion approved towards the completion of several of the major transport projects in London: East London Line extension, Jubilee Line upgrade, London Cycle Hire scheme, two Cycle Superhighways and 50 per cent boost to capacity of busiest DLR route.
London Bus Awards 2010 celebrated
Scooter safety urged for drivers to join the ScooterSafe initiative advised as well as warnings for teenagers on the changes of Daylight Savings
Frameworks set up to speed up delivery of electric vehicles in London by TfL
TfL's Travel Information Centre celebrated its 70th anniversary with the opening of a new centre at King's Cross St Pancras station
£11.5 miilion to be used in six boroughs for improvements in the run up to the Olympic games
Sutton High Street closed for 10 weeks for gas maintenance
A £6 million facelift of Woolwich town centre is completed.
Vision outlined on new trains and a better system for the London Underground
A new map is launched showing coach parking close to major landmarks
A taxi rank in Cranbourne Street is to be moved to Haymarket to curb touting
Mayor and TfL: Arbiter's directions show PPP is 'not delivering for Londoners and taxpayers'
Transport for London has awarded the morning free newspaper contract to Metro
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Upminster Bridge tube station was promoted to good article status in early February. Well done to all those involved. This is apparently the first tube station to be accepted as a Good Article. Also, High Speed 1 retained its GA status.
All articles have been assessed of their quality with only some of the articles' importance to the project yet to be determined. Well done on the assessment.
Discussion arose over the addition or removal of succession boxes showing the present London Underground lines and their histories as well as former services. Another discussion arose on boxes showing stations layouts. This has reslted in many of thwe succession boxes being removed from articles.
Separate issues arose over the population of aboandoned London Undeground projects categories and categories on single station platforms
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Major discussions arose over the notability of many London bus routes, which resulted in some routes being kept and some being deleted. Please leave your comments at WT:LT#London bus route articles and WT:BUS.
that at 44 tons, the locomotives of the Central London Railway's first underground trains were so heavy that they shook buildings as they passed 60 feet below and were scrapped after three years?
...that bus company London Country North East lost over £5 million in less than two years of existence before it was split up in 1989?
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The North London Line fully reopens are completion of upgrade work
May
London Underground and the Royal Society for the protection of Birds (RSPB) team up to launch wildlife competition to encourage people to use the Underground for nature spotting.
Barclays to sponsor London Cycle Hire scheme
LED traffic light installations across London to begin this August
The final consultation of the scrappage of the western extension of the Congestion Charge begins
TfL and the Mayor are encouraging Londoners to sign up to the London Cycle Challenge this June
Tfl wins a prestigious award from the Royal Institute of Brital Architects for the East London Transit
The first of five hydrogen buses in London is currently unmdergoing testing in Bedfordshire
Weekend service introduced on the East London Line
Blackwall tunnel southbound to close for five weekends in the year for vital upgrade work
A series of artworks are commission for the Jubillee Line as part of Art on the Underground, the first of which is shown at City Hall until 10 June. Also, for twelve months a digital moving image installation is installed at Canary Wharf tube station.
Tube Lines becomes a subsidary of Transport for London after the aquisition of its shares
April
Marshalled taxi ranks at O2 on Thursday to Sunday nights when there is an event
More busking licenses available for tube stations
East London Line reopens with new stations at Dalston Junction, Hoxton, Haggerston and Shoreditch High Street
Tour of Britain cycle race to return in September
Talks on 14 and 15 May to discuss improvements to Blackwall Tunnel to be held at the O2
London Underground has been awarded the Carbon Trust Standard in recognition towards its work to wards carbon efficiency
Oxford Circus to become exit and interchange only weekday mornings to give time to replace some of its escalators
Junction improvement means changes to bus services in Herne Hill
EDF Energy awarded power upgrade for sub-surface lines
Tube Lines and shareholders, Ferrovial and Bechtel, must demonstrate plans are robust and prove Tube Lines is creditworthy, as challenged by the Mayor and TfL
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Sincere apologies for not doing an issue last month. Thi was due to being very busy but when i had the next available time it landed in the middle if the month. Therefore i decided that i would try and get this back to its original roots of being at the start of the month and so waited a couple of weeks. Again i am sorry for the wait.
I have also had to give less detail on some reports as the Article Alert Bot is currently down.
New guidelines have been proposed for railway accidents. Please see WP:RAILCRASH.
Major discussions arose over the notability of many London bus routes, which resulted in some routes being kept and some being deleted. Please leave your comments at WT:LT#London bus route articles and WT:BUS. This has essentially ground to a halt.
Another discussion as well as straw poll has been on whther the frequency of trains per hour should be added. It appeared there was no consensus.
New usage data has been given by TfL for the London Underground for 2009
Finally a minor issue arose on the colour of London Overground.
Did you know...
that at 44 tons, the locomotives of the Central London Railway's first underground trains were so heavy that they shook buildings as they passed 60 feet below and were scrapped after three years?
...that bus company London Country North East lost over £5 million in less than two years of existence before it was split up in 1989?
...that Belsize Park station is one of the only eight stations in London to have a deep level bomb shelter beneath it?
…that Mile End tube station is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?
... that at 44 tons, the locomotives of the Central London Railway`s first underground trains were so heavy that they shook buildings as they passed 60 feet below and were scrapped after three years?
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New safety measures announced for safety with cyclists around lorries
New cable car system announced in the Thames Gateway area
Southfields stations becomes step-free
Fewer delays in cars being held up by traffic lights
June
Bus crime lowest in six years
Early closure of Northern Line cancelled
Exhibition at Aldwych until July 9th
More air-conditioned Underground and Overground trains on their way
New electric vehicles with special livery to distinguish them join the taxis
Hammersmith & City and Circle to close between 24th July and 15th August for upgrade work as well as works to do with Paddington station and Crossrail
Rotherhithe tunnel to be southbound during weekend closures
New Digital Countdowns to be trialled telling people how long they have to cross the road
Deaths and serious injuries on roads half that of a decade ago in London
Improvements such as maps, signs and timetables as well as flags showing "River Buses" for commuter boats and "River Tours" for tourists to be introduced
Motorcycles to trial using bus lanes
First docking station for cycling scheme installed on the Capital's streets
Information from TfL to be used for commercial gain freely
TfL is not to occupy the Shard
Bank, Charing Cross, Earl's Court, Green Park, Holborn, Hyde Park Corner, Knightsbridge, Liverpool Street, Moorgate and Victoria are to reduce energy usage for the 10:10 campaign
£700 million set for Victoria Underground to be redeveloped as contract is awarded
A new police task force has been set up to deal with stolen or damaged bicycles
New Chief Executive Officer for Tube Lines
A new set of poems are on display on London Underground trains
The southern roundabout at Elephant& Castle will be removed by October and converted into a signalised junction
The North London Line fully reopens are completion of upgrade work
The portal went through a candidacy for featured portal with not much luck. The areas of the portal are becoming more active with the the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems has started to be updated again but with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter. Did you know is being improved. The portal has had a new selected biography section added to bring it up to standard. Please vote at Portal:London Transport/Vote.
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I have also had to give less detail on some reports as the Article Alert Bot is currently down.
New guidelines have been proposed for railway accidents. Please see WP:RAILCRASH.
Major discussions arose over the notability of many London bus routes, which resulted in some routes being kept and some being deleted. Please leave your comments at WT:LT#London bus route articles and WT:BUS. This has essentially ground to a halt.
Another discussion as well as straw poll has been on whther the frequency of trains per hour should be added. It appeared there was no consensus.
New usage data has been given by TfL for the London Underground for 2009
A small discussion talk places regarding which project banners should be placed on London Underground navboxes.
Did you know...
that at 44 tons, the locomotives of the Central London Railway's first underground trains were so heavy that they shook buildings as they passed 60 feet below and were scrapped after three years?
...that bus company London Country North East lost over £5 million in less than two years of existence before it was split up in 1989?
...that Belsize Park station is one of the only eight stations in London to have a deep level bomb shelter beneath it?
…that Mile End tube station is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?
... that at 44 tons, the locomotives of the Central London Railway`s first underground trains were so heavy that they shook buildings as they passed 60 feet below and were scrapped after three years?
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A £300 million contract is let for the upgrade of Bond Street station
The first of 191 air-conditioned S Stock trains enters passenger service
July
Transport for London launches Barclays Cycle Hire bicycle sharing scheme
New safety measures announced for safety with cyclists around lorries
New cable car system announced in the Thames Gateway area
Southfields stations becomes step-free
Fewer delays in cars being held up by traffic lights
June
Bus crime lowest in six years
Early closure of Northern Line cancelled
Exhibition at Aldwych until July 9th
More air-conditioned Underground and Overground trains on their way
New electric vehicles with special livery to distinguish them join the taxis
Hammersmith & City and Circle to close between 24th July and 15th August for upgrade work as well as works to do with Paddington station and Crossrail
Rotherhithe tunnel to be southbound during weekend closures
New Digital Countdowns to be trialled telling people how long they have to cross the road
Deaths and serious injuries on roads half that of a decade ago in London
Improvements such as maps, signs and timetables as well as flags showing "River Buses" for commuter boats and "River Tours" for tourists to be introduced
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Portal
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Discussions within the project included participation in the project, the usefulness of Category:Transport architecture in London, unopened stations in London, reorganising the District Line's RDT, a brief celebration of four years of the project and some of the articles have been selected for Wikipedia 0.8 release.
In other project related discussions included the unopened stations, identifying train vehicles and a request for taking photos of the Compass Centre
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Discussions within the project included promotion of the portal, changing colours and some of the articles have been selected for Wikipedia 0.8 release.
In other project related discussions included new railway maps, dates for Hackney Central station, a lorry crash at Oxshott station, categories for individual branch lines, various RDT discussions, Romford to Upminster Branch Line, Poplar DLR depot and a request for taking photos of the Compass Centre
Many, many apologies for skipping another month but i had to leave it due to unexpected personal reasons (not Wikipedia related). Anyway, here is the December edition.
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Discussions within the project included promotion of the portal, changing colours, outside praise of the project, some of the articles have been selected for Wikipedia 0.8 release and a query on the London General Omnibus Company.
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Portal
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Discussions within the project included lack of interest in the portal, station passenger usage over the years, a possible splitting of the A1 road article and a brief GA nomination of the Metropolitan line.
Other project related discussions included photo requests on various companies' headquarters across London including airlines, category and naming discussions on the River Lea\Lee, platform operations, merger of a category on former London and South Western Railway stations, Copyright at Tattenham Corner station, mystery of Gordon Hill, officiality at St Pancras, 2009-2010 usage data and when to implement it, Crossrail and Thameslink classes and the merger of Euston stations
Many, many apologies for not having a February edition. I ran into computer troubles and whilst i was editing around that time, i did not have time to do the newsletter until mid or late February. Hope that can be forgiven. Here is the March edition.
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Discussions within the project included redirection of WP:TFL, Good article nominations of the London Underground and Frank Pick, renomination of the portal as a featured portal, project colour schemes, splitting of London Underground stations and abandoned London Underground proposals
Other project related discussions included naming conventions on classes of trains, S-rail blunders, railway gauge discussions, banners, capitalisation of lines, St Pancras station naming and water navigation categories.
Passenger numbers double for East London line one year on.
More bins on London Underground
Huge increase in lost property on TFL network
Crime dropped by 7% on London Underground and Docklands Light Railway and 4% on London Buses
Initial results of removal of Congestion Charge Western extension shows little impact on traffic and air quality
Daniel Buren to create new permanent artwork at Tottenham Court Road Tube station
May
Polish poetry introduced on London Underground
Pedestrian Countdown brings benefits to London
Electric vehicle scheme "Source London" switched on
Bus route 488 extended to Dalston
New bus design now given testing
TfL urban realm designer scoops the Alan Cherry Award for Placemaking
More trams in evening between Wimbledon and New Addington
Over 1300 drivers arrested on unbooked minicabs over last year
Increased train frequencies in many London Overground lines
London Cycle Challenge back for 2011
Contract awarded to Birse Metro to complete London Overground's orbital railway
Cyclists concerns have been included in Blackfriars junction plan
A consultation is launched on exemptions to taxi and private hire vehicle age limits
Twenty five community grants have been offered to improve community cycling projects across London
Figures show large improvements in road safety for past 10 years
Transport for London (TfL), Cubic and the Association of Train Operating Companies partnership awarded Excellence in Technology and Innovation at the London Transport Awards for bringing Oyster onto the National Rail network in London.
Docklands Light Railway 3-car upgrade complete
Consultation on the Northern Line extension to Battersea begins
More major car companies sign up to offer discounts to customers affected by the Low Eimission Zone next year
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I took your suggestion of adding a footnote to the mercy ministries article, thanks :)
I'm having problems, I added the URL etc but it's not showing up how I thought it would. It's under the Locations section. You seem to know how to add footnotes (from your previous edits) so I was wondering if you would please fix mine?!
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Discussions within the project were the fact that the London Transport was promoted to featured portal status and tagging Tillingbourne Bus Company as part of the project
Other project related discussions included naming convention of trains, railway accidents, previous rail employment is now found online, railway usage and the opening of Canary Wharf station.
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Discussions within the project were errors in TV dramas, The A1 road going through a Good article review, the Signpost Interview, out-of-station interchanges and categorisation of stations.
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Mayor drives first New Bus for London off production line
London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games mascots join last leg of month-long Games themed walking relay
Northbound Blackwall Tunnel safety improvements completed more than a year early
October
Revamped service information boards make journeys easier for customers to plan
Transport for London leads the way with new Quantity Surveying apprenticeships
Dial-a-Ride offers new NVQ in Customer Service
Tube Lines sets green standard as double winner
More services on TfL's London Overground from December
New Tube Poems remember war dead and reflect on quest for peace
London Underground bridge between Ravenscourt Park and Hammersmith wins Small Civil Engineering Project category at the British Construction Industry Awards for its replacement in one weekend
Tramlink rewarded for helping restore Croydon
Oyster pay as you go to be extended to national rail stations between Liverpool Street and Hertford East
Transport for London acquires Tube Lines' bonds
Victoria Tube station escalator work completed three months early
Real-time bus information now available anytime and anywhere
Greenwich Pier gets roof and lighting in time for London 2012 Games
Final Jubilee line upgrade cost vindicates decision to end PPP says TfL
Half a million London employees now signed up for 2012 travel advice, TfL tells Assembly and borough leaders
Mayor secures Emirates Airline as private sponsor for pioneering new Thames crossing
Two thirds of bendy buses converted and major savings being made
150 million year old stone for new Green Park Tube station
London Overground upgrade named project of the year at Rail Awards
Guide dogs to be allowed to use moving escalators for the first time ever
250 London schools take part in London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic torch walking relay
September
Following a meeting at Acas today London Underground (LU) has received confirmation from the trade unions that they will be recommending acceptance of LU's four-year pay settlement
Safer Travel at Night: TfL warns of dangers of unbooked minicabs as new students arrive in London
Almost eighty per cent of passengers in favour of proposed changes. Removal of weekday Kensington (Olympia) service will allow five additional trains on Wimbledon branch during morning peak. New timetable will be introduced in December 2011.
Green wall for Edgware Road Tube station to trap harmful pollution
Operators urged to take action now to meet tougher London Low Emission Zone standards to improve air quality, or risk fines
Chart toppers Rizzle Kicks team up with TfL to help reduce teenage road casualties in London
New Docklands Light Railway extension an instant hit with passengers
New London 2012 Games travel 'hotspot' info to help businesses plan ahead and avoid transport disruption
Tour of Britain, the UK's biggest professional cycle race, returns to the Capital
Mayor confirms fares increase for 2012 to support unprecedented £12bn investment in London's transport network
LU reaches agreement with drivers' unions over Olympics and Paralympics working arrangements
Latest figures confirm trend of long-term improvements in Tube performance
New bus routes to serve Stratford and surrounding area
New online postcode data released by Transport for London (TfL) at the inaugural 2012 Freight Forum meeting will help firms plan and manage deliveries during Games-time
2011 Great River Race occurs
Mayor announces Olympic Park electric charging network, creating air quality legacy
North Acton station wins Underground in bloom gardening competition.
Businesses urged to plan for paralympics too.
Mayor of London and Transport for London act to save 812 PlusBus route
Transformation of Green Park station nears completion
Transport for London secures further improvements to coach parking
No more bendy buses on route 73
New Oyster system to help customers pay the correct fare
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Other project related discussions included train and station identification, use of symbols in infoboxes, RDT symbols, airport railway stations.
Members
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All drivers are urged to switch off their engines when parked, loading or waiting at the roadside
More reliable Tube carries record-breaking numbers
Mayor hails new measures in 2012 to deliver cleaner air for London
December
Hammersmith Flyover closed due to structural defect found
Edgware Road signal improvements delivered early, paving way for longer, accessible, air-con trains
Mayor announces trial to cut harmful pollution at industrial and construction sites across London
Interim operator for Putney to Blackfriars River Bus service
TfL has today announced details of a strategic review of traffic movements through the Kings Cross area
Motorcycles to be allowed permanent access to bus lanes
Around 85 of London's 700 bus routes will be changed in some way during the 2012 Games
TfL ramps up safety efforts on London Tramlink
Major crackdown on dangerous pedicabs in central London
Emirates Air Line lands on iconic Tube map as first tower completed
Mayor heralds the arrival of the new bus for London
More local transport improvements for London Boroughs announced by Mayor
Mayor and DfT announce £10 million to cut pollution from Capital's bus fleet
Mayor hails successful bid to make more London Overground stations step free
Vibrant London life captured in Yayoi Kusama's new artwork for the Pocket Tube Map
Additional peak trains for the 200,000 Wimbledon branch passengers each day will bring fewer delays and extra capacity
Overall Transport for London (TfL) fares to rise by 5.6 per cent in 2012
Lewis Hamilton toasts free travel on London transport to welcome in the New Year
Out-of-hours deliveries during London 2012 Games are viable, trials show
Real time digital bus information proves a hit with Londoners
As part of Transport for London's (TfL) commitment to the mental and physical health of its 27,000 employees, the organisation has signed the Time to Change Pledge
November
Dial-a-Ride vehicles trialling biodiesel
Business welcomes Games transport 'hot spot' information to ensure London is 'open for business' in 2012
Green wall unveiled at Edware Road station
TfL saves £250 million by purchasing two maintenace companies working on DLR
Routes 29 and N29 converted to bendy bus
Woolwich Ferry returns to normal
Lighting replacement work on Tower Bridge to LED lighting
Northern Line platforms reopen at Tottenham Court Road
Continued trend of Tube reliabilty as passenger numbers grow
Routes 12 and 436 convert from Bendy bus to double decker
Central line trains overhauled for the 2012 Games and beyond
Bus stop arrangements change around Victoria to make way for improvement works
Crime on London's transport network falls again
Statford bus station reopens
New Acts of Kindness artwork now on Tube seats and trains
London charges ahead with wireless electric vehicle technology
Mayor and TfL set out action to make London's streets safer for cyclists
TfL calls for taxi demo to be cancelled
London Transport Veterans to take part in the annual Remembrance Sunday parade
Plans for improvement to Bank station go on public display
Mayor drives first New Bus for London off production line
London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games mascots join last leg of month-long Games themed walking relay
Northbound Blackwall Tunnel safety improvements completed more than a year early
October
Revamped service information boards make journeys easier for customers to plan
Transport for London leads the way with new Quantity Surveying apprenticeships
Dial-a-Ride offers new NVQ in Customer Service
Tube Lines sets green standard as double winner
More services on TfL's London Overground from December
New Tube Poems remember war dead and reflect on quest for peace
London Underground bridge between Ravenscourt Park and Hammersmith wins Small Civil Engineering Project category at the British Construction Industry Awards for its replacement in one weekend
Tramlink rewarded for helping restore Croydon
Oyster pay as you go to be extended to national rail stations between Liverpool Street and Hertford East
Transport for London acquires Tube Lines' bonds
Victoria Tube station escalator work completed three months early
Real-time bus information now available anytime and anywhere
Greenwich Pier gets roof and lighting in time for London 2012 Games
Final Jubilee line upgrade cost vindicates decision to end PPP says TfL
Half a million London employees now signed up for 2012 travel advice, TfL tells Assembly and borough leaders
Mayor secures Emirates Airline as private sponsor for pioneering new Thames crossing
Two thirds of bendy buses converted and major savings being made
150 million year old stone for new Green Park Tube station
London Overground upgrade named project of the year at Rail Awards
Guide dogs to be allowed to use moving escalators for the first time ever
250 London schools take part in London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic torch walking relay
September
Following a meeting at Acas today London Underground (LU) has received confirmation from the trade unions that they will be recommending acceptance of LU's four-year pay settlement
Safer Travel at Night: TfL warns of dangers of unbooked minicabs as new students arrive in London
Almost eighty per cent of passengers in favour of proposed changes. Removal of weekday Kensington (Olympia) service will allow five additional trains on Wimbledon branch during morning peak. New timetable will be introduced in December 2011.
Green wall for Edgware Road Tube station to trap harmful pollution
Operators urged to take action now to meet tougher London Low Emission Zone standards to improve air quality, or risk fines
Chart toppers Rizzle Kicks team up with TfL to help reduce teenage road casualties in London
New Docklands Light Railway extension an instant hit with passengers
New London 2012 Games travel 'hotspot' info to help businesses plan ahead and avoid transport disruption
Tour of Britain, the UK's biggest professional cycle race, returns to the Capital
Mayor confirms fares increase for 2012 to support unprecedented £12bn investment in London's transport network
LU reaches agreement with drivers' unions over Olympics and Paralympics working arrangements
Latest figures confirm trend of long-term improvements in Tube performance
New bus routes to serve Stratford and surrounding area
New online postcode data released by Transport for London (TfL) at the inaugural 2012 Freight Forum meeting will help firms plan and manage deliveries during Games-time
2011 Great River Race occurs
Mayor announces Olympic Park electric charging network, creating air quality legacy
North Acton station wins Underground in bloom gardening competition.
Businesses urged to plan for paralympics too.
Mayor of London and Transport for London act to save 812 PlusBus route
Transformation of Green Park station nears completion
Transport for London secures further improvements to coach parking
No more bendy buses on route 73
New Oyster system to help customers pay the correct fare
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Hi, If you're adding something to an established list such as Long-distance footpaths in the United Kingdom, please comply to the established pattern: in this case give end points, but don't give much more detail. In this instance I decided to create the stub article for the path, so split out the excessive detail you'd added to the list (probably too close a paraphrase of the LDWA entry, really, but I let that slide) into the new stub. And I modified the entry in the list so it conforms with the rest of the list. Again, if adding a red-linked path to that list, please provide a reference to an external source (either of those I've used as refs in the article would do), to verify its existence. Thanks. PamD16:44, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Great housekeeping PamD. I get it. Thanks for creating the stub, a better way to handle the detail. Was going to be my next move... Hyper3 (talk) 18:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Your invitation to participate in a Wikimedia-approved survey in online behavior.
Hello, my name is Michael Tsikerdekis[7][8], currently involved as a student in full time academic research at Masaryk University. I am writing to you to kindly invite you to participate in an online survey about interface and online collaboration on Wikipedia. The survey has been reviewed and approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Research Committee.
I am contacting you because you were randomly selected from a list of active editors. The survey should take about 7 to 10 minutes to complete, and it is very straightforward.
Wikipedia is an open project by nature. Let’s create new knowledge for everyone! :-)
PS: The results from the research will become available online for everyone and will be published in an open access journal.
UPDATE: This is the second and final notification for participating in this study. Your help is essential for having concrete results and knowledge that we all can share. I would like to thank you for your time and as always for any questions, comments or ideas do not hesitate to contact me. PS: As a thank you for your efforts and participation in Wikipedia Research you will receive a Research Participation Barnstar after the end of the study. --Michael Tsikerdekis (talk) 19:38, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
TfL-funded police officers continue to reduce Blackwall Tunnel delays for drivers
Mayor of London helps 71 schools get pupils cycling
Mayor announces innovative bus technology set to deliver cleaner air across London
Olympic Taxi fare increase rejected by TfL
TfL reveals design for transformed Euston Circus junction
January
Tube performance on track for a successful Games
Major campaign launched to help people 'Get Ahead of the Games' and keep London and the UK moving in 2012
DLR launches a new three-car route and enhanced timetable to meet Games-time demand
Changes to travel around Paddington Station due to Crossrail works
Avoiding congestion made easier with new Transport for London live traffic news
London Overground passenger satisfaction soars following investment in capacity, trains and stations
Mayor welcomes green light for scheme to charge companies for disruptive roadworks
Mayor welcomes 200th greener, cleaner hybrid bus to London's fleet
New docking station for cycle hire in the heart of Westminster gets planning permission
Pedestrian Countdown technology to be rolled out across London from summer 2012
One in five people bought cycle equipment as a result of Barclays Cycle Hire
New cleaning contract of bus stations and stands to reduce CO2 emissions and cleaner air
Hammersmith flyover reopens to cars and light traffic as repairs continue
Free London 2012 support package for freight operators and their customers
Cycle safety improvements proposed around Bow
All drivers are urged to switch off their engines when parked, loading or waiting at the roadside
More reliable Tube carries record-breaking numbers
Mayor hails new measures in 2012 to deliver cleaner air for London
December
Hammersmith Flyover closed due to structural defect found
Edgware Road signal improvements delivered early, paving way for longer, accessible, air-con trains
Mayor announces trial to cut harmful pollution at industrial and construction sites across London
Interim operator for Putney to Blackfriars River Bus service
TfL has today announced details of a strategic review of traffic movements through the Kings Cross area
Motorcycles to be allowed permanent access to bus lanes
Around 85 of London's 700 bus routes will be changed in some way during the 2012 Games
TfL ramps up safety efforts on London Tramlink
Major crackdown on dangerous pedicabs in central London
Emirates Air Line lands on iconic Tube map as first tower completed
Mayor heralds the arrival of the new bus for London
More local transport improvements for London Boroughs announced by Mayor
Mayor and DfT announce £10 million to cut pollution from Capital's bus fleet
Mayor hails successful bid to make more London Overground stations step free
Vibrant London life captured in Yayoi Kusama's new artwork for the Pocket Tube Map
Additional peak trains for the 200,000 Wimbledon branch passengers each day will bring fewer delays and extra capacity
Overall Transport for London (TfL) fares to rise by 5.6 per cent in 2012
Lewis Hamilton toasts free travel on London transport to welcome in the New Year
Out-of-hours deliveries during London 2012 Games are viable, trials show
Real time digital bus information proves a hit with Londoners
As part of Transport for London's (TfL) commitment to the mental and physical health of its 27,000 employees, the organisation has signed the Time to Change Pledge
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I just hope this year round I can make the newsletters roughly within the first week of every month. If you ever feel you want to have a try, please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page.
London's utility bosses agree action plan for less disruptive roadworks
Tube set to post most reliable performance figures for a decade
Spiderweb reduces theft on London transport by 14 per cent
February
Contractors shortlisted to save tens of millions of pounds through new joint highway works
Read it and bin it, newspapers can cause Tube delays
Crime continues to fall on London's bus network
First passengers jump aboard the new bus for London
Mayor brings London's rail industry together to get set for the London 2012 Games
Freight operators and their customers urged to prepare for London 2012 Games with launch of new campaign
Crystal Palace improvement work to begin
New online process announced for London Service Permits
Mayor steps up HGV safety campaign to benefit cyclists and pedestrians
New card to make travel easier for people with hidden disabilities
Art on the Underground launches Canary Wharf Screen at Tube station
Cycling grants to help communities ride to the 2012 Games
Blackfriars Underground station reopens to cater for influx of passengers
Work begins to cool the platforms at two major central London stations
War on fare dodgers increases as penalty charges go up this weekend
Less than one month to go until Barclays Cycle Hire goes east
Changes to travel around Paddington Station due to Crossrail works
Incident response on the Tube to be boosted under 'Blue Light' trial
London Tramlink upgrade continues
TfL confirms priority junctions for cycle safety review
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Baker Street and Waterloo Railway is on track to be Today's Featured Article on the Main Page on 10th March, the 106th anniversary of the line's opening
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Within the project, discussions included how two project articles appeared on TFA in quick succession and an RfC on inclusion of particular viewpoint on future lengthening of certain trainsets on British Rail Class 458
Within other related projects, a relevant discussion included was on canal bridges
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Emergency gas works cause temporary diversion of route 50
From Tuesday 8 May some long term, but temporary, changes will be made to local traffic arrangements in the North Woolwich area to enable Crossrail works to take place, some lasting 18 months
April
TfL's High Court injunction prevents Addison Lee from instructing its drivers to use bus lanes
Shortlisted bidders for the Bank Station Capacity Upgrade project announced
Londoners urged to plan ahead for Games-time travel as full and final Tube and rail 'hotspot' data released
Private hire vehicle drivers could be liable to personal criminal prosecution if they break traffic regulations, including by driving in bus lanes
New strengthening cables installed within Hammersmith Flyover
New entrance to West Croydon station provides better access for all
All the world's poets on the Tube
Major resurfacing works to take place along Victoria Embankment across Easter Bank Holiday weekend
Temporary changes to bus services during London 2012 Games test event in Woolwich.
Capital's rogue limousines targeted
Out-of-hours deliveries to be encouraged during London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games
MUMS-to-be travelling by Tube can get a baby on board badge so passengers know they may need to sit down
Within the project, discussions included how two project articles appeared on TFA in quick succession, a RfC on inclusion of particular viewpoint on future lengthening of certain trainsets on British Rail Class 458 and assessment of London Underground's electric locomotives
Within other related projects, a relevant discussion included was on canal bridges and speeds of trains and rail routes
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First stations named for London Underground WiFi launch
May
Transport for London welcomes RMT acceptance of Olympics recognition proposals
Crime on London's transport network at eight year low
London 2012 Games first: TfL officials to provide live travel advice to businesses on Twitter
London Underground showcases proposals to boost Bank's capacity
TfL launches London 2012 Games 'Temporary Road Changes' planning tool and urges road users to plan ahead
Daily weekday River Bus services to treble between Putney and Blackfriars
Staff recognised at Dial-a-Ride Awards 2012
Medically trained BTP officers deployed on the Tube
New Oyster online accounts help customers keep track of their travel
Olympic legends compete to be the fastest to cross London
Tracey Emin unveils personal version of the Tube Map
Wembley Central becomes the 65th step-free Tube station
Vital investment and reliability programme result in record year of Tube performance
Emirates Air Line flying high as all 34 cabins undergo rigorous safety testing
Hammersmith Flyover to fully reopen to traffic on 30 May
TfL issues travel advice to enable London to celebrate The Queen's Diamond Jubilee
Buses diversions in Bromley town centre for Diamond Jubilee celebrations
Transport for London (TfL) and Network Rail are encouraging those travelling during Games-time to make short journeys on foot as Living Streets' Walk to Work Week launches
Who is Community? - a new artwork by Bob and Roberta Smith and Tim Newton running from 15 May 2012 through 2013 on display at Stratford station
Transport for London (TfL), the Association of Train Operating Companies (ATOC) and Cubic Transportation Systems have picked up top honours at the 2012 International Transport Forum for their joint work on introducing Oyster onto the National Rail network in London
Emergency gas works cause temporary diversion of route 50
From Tuesday 8 May some long term, but temporary, changes will be made to local traffic arrangements in the North Woolwich area to enable Crossrail works to take place, some lasting 18 months
Within the project, discussions included how two project articles appeared on TFA in quick succession, a RfC on inclusion of particular viewpoint on future lengthening of certain trainsets on British Rail Class 458 and assessment of London Underground's electric locomotives
Within other related projects, relevant discussions included were on the expansion and promotion of Herne Hill railway station, the existence of the Sutton Loop, Midland Main Line vs Gret Central Main Line and WikiProject London in Signpost
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Within the project, discussions included how two project articles appeared on TFA in quick succession, a RfC on inclusion of particular viewpoint on future lengthening of certain trainsets on British Rail Class 458,assessment of London Underground's electric locomotives and the Hammersmith & City line navbox
Within other related projects, relevant discussions included were on major railway stations in Britain, a new London train wiki and the notability of railway magazines
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Within the project, discussions included the Hammersmith & City line navbox, the deletion of Template:London Underground Tube Stations & Rolling Stock and links to London Underground usage data figures not working
Within other related projects, relevant discussions included were on the Olympics, notability of railway magzines, various railway templates, waterways become active routes on Google Maps, bus station categories and notability of a bus type and a bus builder.
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Within the project, discussions included links to London Underground usage data figures not working, Herne Hill station appearing on the main page and Docklands Light Railway usage now being available
Within other related projects, relevant discussions included were on the Olympics, notability of railway magzines, various railway templates, waterways become active routes on Google Maps, bus station categories and notability of a bus type and a bus builder.
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Hyper, where do you suggest a sentence or two that gives the "other side" on the emerging church is put? If you check the talk page of the article you will see that there have been numerous attempts to put in a "criticism" section, but it has been removed using the argument that Wikipedia doesn't like criticism sections but prefers to weave all such comments into the body of the article. I am happy to see this sentence inserted elsewhere, but where? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Journalist492 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Within the project, discussions included assessments after another year, date vandalism with the London Underground 1973 stock, deletions of Template:Infobox TfL Line and Template:Access icon and the featured article review of the London congestion charge
Within other related projects, relevant discussions included were on InterCity 125, Template:Access icon, unidentified station photo locations in London, LMS Hughes Crab, waterways and railways maps and photo requests of head offices.
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Within the project, discussions included the featured article review of the London congestion charge, edits to London Buses route 24, date of publication of a 1938 LU stock emergency equipment diagram, Metropolitan Railway being TFA to mark the 150th anniversary of the tube and bus routes in station articles.
Within other related projects, relevant discussions included unidentified station photo locations in London, linking to train station, bus routes in station articles, template font problems, railway route boxes, primary road destinations in infoboxes and River Lee move discussions.
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Within the project, discussions included the Metropolitan Railway being TFA to mark the 150th anniversary of the tube, bus routes in station articles, comparing American pseudo facts with the London Underground, renaming Uxbridge Road station and identifying stations in photographs.
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About our dispute at Slutwalk, I honestly do respect what you're trying to do. Women have a tough time even in more enlightened countries, and movements that give them some purpose and direction are definitely a good thing. But I sincerely believe that the information given in the lead was inaccurate. I'm saying this in the hope that we can work out a compromise, and the first step would be some dialog, either here or on the article talk page. I can prove that rallies happened in the US, Canada, and India. But I can't prove that rallies didn't happen in other countries. Anyway, let me hear from you, so we can communicate in a more significant way than revert edit summaries. PraetorianFury (talk) 16:28, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey again, could you weigh in on this issue being discussed on my talk page? I feel my reversion was hasty, but that there are also separate concerns for original research, weight, fringe viewpoints, and reliable sources, subtle POV pushing with See also links. After my kneejerk reaction to the original edit I'm worried that I'm too concerned with being right to comment on this objectively. So I'd greatly appreciate if you could lend your perspective. PraetorianFury (talk) 18:26, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spiritual warfare (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. IRWolfie- (talk) 10:20, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the 50th edition. I can only apologise this is so late as a lot of work came up but it is still no excuse so again I will apologise. Inside includes everything since the last edition as usual. Enjoy. Simply south......fighting ovens for just 7 years23:00, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I will also happily accept requests for the gallery (if not, images will be selected from archives elsewhere). Again I will also remind people that if they ever want to try doing a future month's issue, feel free to with your own style etc or even just stick to the current format. Don't hesitate to contact me for the resources of things to include in this newsletter. Otherwise, enjoy! Simply south......cooking letters for just 7 years01:03, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please feel free to suggest any changes or add any requests such as images for the gallery. If you also want to have a try for the new year's edition or any future editions, please do not hesitate to ask. Simply south......cooking letters for just 7 years21:39, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Hyper3, I am reviving the Charismatic Christianity WikiProject and noticed you were active in the past so I am inviting you to come back and help me get it going again. Callsignpink (talk) 21:29, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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