User talk:Ironman1104

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	Some good copyedits there. I enjoyed your trims of Corbyn and Smith. Keep up the good work. John (talk) 21:58, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Very kind. Some people don't write well! Ironman1104 (talk) 08:42, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Lord Polak

The FT article (ref 1) has a lot more juicy info that could be added to the article. Afraid I don't have time right now to DIY. SmartSE (talk) 11:55, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

(I think it is paywalled, but registering lets you access a few articles for free). SmartSE (talk) 11:56, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Right Honourable

Please stop your incorrect removal of Right Honourable. See The Right Honourable#United Kingdom for referenced details. DuncanHill (talk) 17:30, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Please stop rv-ing it. Check the title of the relevant individual in the House of Lords. PCs are Rt Hon. others are not. Ironman1104 17:17, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Multiple editors have raised this issue with you. You need to stop. DuncanHill (talk) 17:20, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Er. no they haven't. Who are these multiples?

While writing, what is your explanation for the formal titles of the relevant individuals being given on HL website without Rt Hon prefix. It may be that archaic usage once attached the title to some peers, but it is not modern usage. If you can improve on the HL as a source, feel free. Similarly, if you can provide a source for any of your candidates for this prefix, go ahead. But you cannot. Ironman1104 17:23, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Who? Two editors in the thread right above this one for a start! DuncanHill (talk) 17:28, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

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One might note that given every article has 'Rt Hon.' and it is the accepted style for life peers, that you might be in the wrong instead of literally everyone else. Please desist: you are also breaking 3RR now. · | (talk - contributions) 10:49, 4 October 2019 (UTC)}

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What is your problem with historical fact? DM was in fact born male. No? Ironman1104 15:18, 8 April 2023 (UTC) Ironman1104 15:18, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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Why do you say I’m edit warring? And what’s your issue with fear of facts? Ironman1104 15:20, 8 April 2023 (UTC) Ironman1104 15:20, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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Logged warning

Ironman1104, considering your recent poor behaviour at Dylan Mulvaney, as well as past behaviour in similar articles, I'm formally warning you that, if you continue with these types of edits within the gender and sexuality contentious topic, you will be sanctioned. Isabelle Belato ^🏳‍🌈 20:53, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Why do you think it is appropriate for an encyclopedia to make up pretend facts? You know that Dylan M was born male and that sex is unchanging. You do not make something so by wishing it so. You’re just pretending. I’m not in the least bothered about your threatened sanctions. They will not make untruths true. And you know I’m right, but lack the courage, or the scientific nous, or both, to admit the truth. Stop pretending. It’s pathetic. Kind regards. Ironman1104 21:09, 10 April 2023 (UTC) Ironman1104 21:09, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunate. Isabelle Belato ^🏳‍🌈 21:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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Please treat this as an appeal.

The purpose of an encyclopaedia is not to promulgate matters which are unsupported by evidence and which are scientifically wrong.

My principal editorial remark that Dylan M was “born male” and (not in an article itself) that his pretence that he is a woman (or a 26 year old “girl”) is the product of dysmorphia, are both unarguably factually accurate.

Your “ban” does not follow any further alleged transgressions on my part, but is the product of personal pique when I called out your pretence. It was grossly improper for you to adjudge a “ban” when my comment directly addressed your personal error of science and fact. Ironman1104 21:49, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Your reply to my warning, in addition to the linked diffs, shows that your editing pattern pushes a specific WP:POV that goes against how reliable sources deal with the subject, as well as how the community sees the issue. That you want to dig in further makes me unwilling to undo the topic ban at this moment. If you want, you can open a thread at WP:AE. Isabelle Belato ^🏳‍🌈 22:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

“Unwilling to undo …?”

my complaint was, and it is, that you are an inappropriate person to determine anything against me since you have reacted out of personal pique and not by reference to any further editing by me. I have not breached your “warning” I have called out your impropriety in continuing to act when you are the subject of personal criticism for your lack of understanding of science. Please get a grip with, and engage with, my appeal rather than fudging it.

My point was that you have taken personal offence, and have not reacted to editing by me. You seem rather out of your depth, which is another reason for it being improper for you to take action “against” me. Ironman1104 17:14, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

As I've pointed out in my message above, as well as the topic ban message, the issue are your edits to pages and discussions related to gender and sexuality. Since your reply to my warning showed you'd continue pushing that specific POV, which has been disruptive in those pages, I though a topic ban was warranted. I don't see why you think I took personal offence to your response. Isabelle Belato ^{🏴‍☠️} 19:22, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Ironman, please explain the latter of these statements, in light of the former. Both were made after Isabelle Belato's formal warning to you:

• Why do you think it is appropriate for an encyclopedia to make up pretend facts? You know that Dylan M was born male and that sex is unchanging. You do not make something so by wishing it so. You’re just pretending. I’m not in the least bothered about your threatened sanctions. They will not make untruths true.… Stop pretending. It’s pathetic.
• you have reacted out of personal pique and not by reference to any further editing by me

It is abundantly clear that your ban was after a further breach of MOS:GENDERID after you were warned; the fact that it took place in discussion on your user talk page does not excuse your flagrant disregard for Wikipedia policies. Accordingly, this administrator endorses the ban and is satisfied Isabelle Belato acted out of consideration of your conduct and not from any grudge or bias they have toward you. Further, your conduct here and at User talk:Beccaynr enters the realm of personal attacks—conduct that could result in a block without taking the contentious topics restrictions into consideration.

Your edits to topic areas outside of the scope of gender-related disputes and associated people has been good—honestly, that is probably the saving grace that got you topic banned instead of blocked from editing the entire site. However, users subject to topic bans typically get no leeway and can get blocked for any edit that violates the ban. Additionally, if your conduct towards other editors continues down this adversarial path, it is possible that the community will no longer see your contributions as a net positive.

I humbly suggest that it is in your best interest to find other topics, edit constructively there, and steer clear of this entire issue for some time. With six months of solid contributions and no further issues, this administrator could even support lifting your ban at that time. Now, though, you have to prove to the community that you are willing and able to edit cooperatively. —C.Fred (talk) 01:13, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Who are you? I’ve explained my view. Try applying your “professional level of English” (what?) to grappling with it. Ironman1104 03:49, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

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