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Your submission at Articles for creation: John Maxwell Bailey (April 12)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by KylieTastic were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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KylieTastic (talk) 17:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi KylieTastic, After a lot of editing I want to say thanks for your initial feedback. I've now added more links to this page (Notability / sources: frequently-cited academic papers, Emilio Picasso's Wikipedia page which names John Bailey first in list of his colleagues at CERN (potential blue link here!) If you do pull this one out of the queue and re-review, that would be great - but whoever that falls to, it's now a much better page. So your feedback here is appreciated! JFBB12345 (talk) 17:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, JFBB12345! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! KylieTastic (talk) 17:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have just seen that this is a place where I can ask for help. I have submitted a biographical entry for John Maxwell Bailey who was an important member of the team working at CERN on Muon storage rings from 1964 onwards. In this article following initial refusal on the valid grounds that I had not included published scientific articles, I have now referenced (with links) a number of the most significant papers coming out of this research for whom JM Bailey was the main author (his name appearing either first, or following Francis Farley who was the leader of the large team cited as 'et al' which can be seen by viewing the papers on the links submitted). There has recently been renewed coverage of Muon research in the press so publishing this biographical page which summarizes all the early work by the leading expert on Moun storage rings will be very timely. Despite the evidence in all these papers / links, the biography has just been returned again as having insufficient evidence. Is this insufficient evidence of the academic work, or of something else such as JM Bailey's place of birth (Australia) or something else? His attendance at the University of Sidney and at The Queen's College, Oxford can be substantiated by the alumni offices of the academic institutions concerned, but this is not something that can be put as a link into a Wikipedia article. Please can you advise how to provide whatever information is required? Is it personal information which I can supply to you directly such as an email from the universities confirming his attendance there? Your help is much appreciated as I believe this will be a significant addition to Wikipedia (strong links to three other scientists featured on Wikipedia: VA Bailey, Francis Farley and Emilio Picasso). Thank you! JFBB12345 (talk) 09:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Wikipedia, Refer page on John Maxwell Bailey and your feedback on initial draft. I have now added extensive links to the personal and professional information for this page. Notability - Long list of academic papers from the large team at CERN on Muon (g-2) particle accelerator experiments for which he is the first named author following the group leader, Frances Farley, who also has a Wikipedia page. Of particular relevance, you can see that the Wikipedia page on his colleague Emilio Picasso mentions John Bailey by name *first* in the list of his colleagues at CERN (second paragraph of 'Career'), meaning that a live blue link here would be very appropriate. I hope that all these additions and comments now satisfy your criteria for publication. (NB I've avoided including links to archives eg newspaper articles which are only available to subscribers, so that all links are to publicly available sources). Thank you for your help. JFBB12345 (talk) 06:23, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: John Maxwell Bailey (April 14)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Johannes Maximilian were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:John Maxwell Bailey and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 08:56, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: John Maxwell Bailey (April 20)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ldm1954 was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs to

meet any of the eight academic-specific criteria
or cite multiple reliable, secondary sources independent of the subject, which cover the subject in some depth

Make sure your draft meets one of the criteria above before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If the subject does not meet any of the criteria, it is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please look at the pages for other academics and rewrite:

Use the proper style for references
Provide information on his awards (critical)
All claims must have sources (not links) to verify
Remove material that is narrative --that he read detective novels is not relevant here
Change the "notable papers" to five Selected papers
Get help at the Teahouse

The current version will continue to be rejected if you don't make it more standard. You have to prove his notability.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:John Maxwell Bailey and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Ldm1954 (talk) 00:36, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]