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SiobhanHansa's criticism

Hi Jayne. I just saw the virtual volunteering article you created and wanted to gently point you towards our conflict of interest guideline. I realize you are an expert in the subject and I'd hate for Wikipedia to lose that expertise so please be assured I'm not asking you to stop editing. But it's important for our articles to remain neutral. Since you relied so much on your own work, I'm concerned that not all significant views were represented. Also the article did seem to have a bit of a promotional tone to it - especially in terms of mentioning organizations you have been involved with and in some bits seeming to be written as though they were there to encourage readers to volunteer. It's important when editing on a subject you are so close to to guard against that kind of bias. Please also note that we specifically ask editors not to list their own websites in external links sections of articles - instead gain consensus for inclusion from independent editors on the article's talk page before adding it. If you have any questions about this please feel free to leave me a note at the bottom of my talk page. Happy editing! -- SiobhanHansa 13:22, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Jayne - You replied just fine. I didn't use email because the primary method of communication on Wikipedia is via talk pages - not email. Unless it is necessary for a conversation to be private it is generally considered better for it to open and transparent so other members of the community are not shut out should they wish to join in. Hence talk pages which are open and visible to everyone.

On the Virtual Volunteering page - I didn't say I disliked it - I'm very gad we have a page covering it. And I absolutely think Wikipedia is better off than if you not having edited.

In terms of concrete ways to improve I suggested a couple of guidelines to read in my initial message above. They aren't the easiest of documents to go through but they do try to cover some nuance focusing on approach rather simply being hard and fast rules. In a blunter fashion my biggest concern is that the page only seem to look at the subject from the point of view you promote and did not seem to cover other POVs or refer to external sources. I'm sure you have come across other sources of information in your work, some of which you probably disagree with. Nevertheless in terms of concrete steps you can take to write better for Wikipedia, putting forward all significant points of view not just the ones you have come to believe are best (sometimes referred to here as writing for the enemy!) and referring to sources other than your own writings when possible would be the ones that would make the most difference I think.

I hope this explains the issue more clearly. Again, it's really not my intention to put you off writing here. I'm just trying to point you towards some of the norms of this online community and the guidelines we have for all the virtual volunteers here to help us help Wikipedia in its mission, especially in relation to the need for a neutral point of view in articles. If you have any other questions about it or think I've misinterpreted your writing please feel free to respond at my talk page or here. Happy editing - and happy holidays! -- SiobhanHansa 19:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

JAYNE'S REPLY I haven't written any opinions on the Wikipedia virtual volunteering page. And there is nothing I can do about being the primary author of published research and articles regarding online volunteering. Also, I can't create more researchers on this subject. I can only do what I've done -- encourage researchers and practitioners I know who have expertise on the subject, through various online discussion groups and via direct email invitation, to go to the page I've created and edit it/contribute to it. I've been doing this since the day that I launched the page.

JAYNE STILL SEEKING REPLY FROM SIOBHANHANSA It's been more than two years since this page was drafted and user SiobhanHansa put a conflict of interest/neutral point of view warning on this article. More than 20 people have now edited this article, and many of the references are not my own. Surely it's long overdue to remove the Conflict of Interest tag on this article? I've posted this plea on SiobhanHansa's page and the VV talk page. Still no answer. -- Jcravens42 19:06, 10 January 2011 (UTC-8)

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Editing style

A couple of pointers for you. Don't put underscores in wikilinks - use spaces. The way you are posting links right now is incorrect e.g. the ones you just posted in a number of motorcycle-related articles. Don't use unnecessary capital letters for section headings e.g. "See Also" section should be "See also". Take a look at the Manual of Style and ask if you have any questions. --Biker Biker (talk) 07:55, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

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Ah, the arbitrary nature of Wikipedia editors. Soc.org.nonprofit didn't have enough citations and didn't merit being on Wikipedia, but Alt.atheism, Talk.origins and Alt.sex do? My page had more citations than MANY other of the pages that are listed on the Wikipedia List_of_newsgroups. And, of course, now the page will never grow with more contributions - Rosguill ^talk has seen to that! This is why the number of Wikipedia contributors continues to drop. Jcravens42 01:15, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

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I've deleted the above page. It was promotional in tone and was largely sourced to the programme itself, so doubts about notability too as it stands Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:56, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

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