User talk:Jeffhba

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April 2015

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Mississippi Heat has been reverted.
Your edit here to Mississippi Heat was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+Mississippi+Heat+BURGHAUSEN+2014) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. If the external link you inserted or changed was to a media file (e.g. a sound or video file) on an external server, then note that linking to such files may be subject to Wikipedia's copyright policy, as well as other parts of our external links guideline. If the information you linked to is indeed in violation of copyright, then such information should not be linked to. Please consider using our upload facility to upload a suitable media file, or consider linking to the original.
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That's a fine thought...the trouble is, your additions are so massive and completely transformative of the article that it's hard for me to separate the legitimately acceptable edits from the ones that run counter to Wikipedia editing guidelines. If you were making more incremental changes, I might be able to be a bit more surgical, but this approach usually means that, more or less, we have to wipe it and start again. Remember, this is an encyclopedia, not Lacocque's personal website, and the article's tone and content need to reflect that. We are not an advertising organ for the band, and we cannot use material drawn verbatim, or near-verbatim, from band websites. Chubbles (talk) 16:20, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay. I am making some more careful excisions right now, and will try and leave the article in an acceptable state, pared down but with some of your edits included. Chubbles (talk) 16:32, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

It's not that it's inappropriate for you to include more about Lacocque; it's the way that you've done so. We can't accept a very thinly veiled plagiarism as an encyclopedia article; it's not just a content issue, it's a legal issue for the website. You can write more about Lacocque, but it must be uniquely in your own words, and I would suggest keying your additions to citations from third-party sources so that it's clear multiple sources actually have been consulted. Please review WP:RS if you need a refresher as to what counts as reliable third-party sourcing. Chubbles (talk) 16:42, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

OK, but you've retained a direct quotation from Lacocque as well. You'll need to provide a reference to the specific interview you're quoting, or this will have to be removed - we need to be able to trace the source of the quotation for copyright compliance. Chubbles (talk) 16:54, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

So, this is a good time to introduce you to the concept of WP:BRD, which some editors use as a guideline for how they will interact with people on the site. In this case, you have made a series of bold changes (WP:BOLD) to an article that needed work. I, a second editor, notice that some of the adjustments went too far in changing the article from its previous version, in ways that aren't necessarily to its benefit, and have reverted those changes. I then went to the talk page to explain what I did - that is, discuss. If you respond by undoing my edits again, we end up in a WP:EDITWAR, which is disruptive to the whole process of editing. I'm going to restore the older, provisionally acceptable version, by reverting you once more, and ask you to discuss changes before undoing my edit once again. You can revert my edits again, if you want; nothing requires that you listen to me, of course. But if we both continue undoing each others' edits over and over, we risk being banned by an administrator for violating WP:3RR. Please join me at Talk:Mississippi Heat to talk further. Chubbles (talk) 17:25, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Could we please work together to make sure we can add more information without losing what I've added? I have no problem with being as accurate and as thoughtful as possible, but I'd like to make sure we're building on this process rather than reverting constantly.

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Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 18:14, 9 April 2015 (UTC)