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Use this sections to discuss all elements of our wiki assignment for Psychology of Internet Behaviour. JoeyFox91 (talk) 10:45, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The link from Zoe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xlucky_charmx/Evelyn_Ellerman Remember, wiki convention is to leave a little note with each edit explaining what you've changed, this makes edits easier to track. The space to do this is just below the editing workspace. It also allows you to note if it's a major or minor edit. --Tomswainson (talk) 10:56, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm here guys. --Hyleasia (talk) 10:58, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm here as well. --xlucky_charmx (talk) 22:16, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This might help everyone! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Program_talk:University_of_Hull/Psychology_of_Internet_Behaviour_(Spring_2013)#Just_some_tips --Tomswainson (talk) 19:17, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Off topic I just wanted to say alternative arrangements have been made for my presentation as I have extensions put in. But I will be doing some editing over the next couple of days. Could I get the presentation slides that you have done at some point though? --FrankMcCann (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:21, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good, thanks Tom. --Hyleasia (talk)
Okay I have added a little bit to the page, don't get excited, its only a sentence but i think its ok. I referenced it properly, i think, so i just thought i would let ya know. Hyleasia (talk) 14:14, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. :-). I think we are going to meet up tomorrow just to go through the presentation, so we will give you a copy of them once everything is sorted. --xlucky_charmx (talk) 20:40, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Meeting
Meeting about the presentation tomorrow (Sunday) at 2pm in IT2. Thank you --JoeyFox91 (talk) 21:01, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could we make it about 4ish, because i'm going out with my family for Mother's Day. --xlucky_charmx (talk) 21:06, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay...4pm in IT2 --JoeyFox91 (talk) 21:08, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thank you. :-) --xlucky_charmx (talk) 21:09, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As I've mentioned alternate arrangements have been made for me. But I'll contact one of you for slides after. Thanks! :) FrankMcCann (talk) 21:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No problem Francis, We will send the slides over to you via e-mail --JoeyFox91 (talk) 13:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, all sounds good and will meet you guys at 4. :)Hyleasia (talk) 14:44, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notes
I have brought back this section due to accidental deletion. Sorry about that guys --JoeyFox91 (talk) 17:11, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Next steps

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I don't think there is enough content for it be a stand alone article so I think we should do a redirect link for the name and look for another article to make this article a subsection. What do you think? --Tomswainson (talk) 13:11, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unsure Tom because I don't understand how it all works JoeyFox91 (talk) 17:15, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Joey, do you need help with something? I think what Tom is saying is that he thinks there isn't enough content to have an article all for itself. That maybe a redirect should be put up instead. The redirect would point to a section in an existing article, where you would put your intended topic information. --Geniac (talk) 02:07, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I think I understand the concept. So we basically find another article relevant to the woman we are reseaching, and add our section to that article instead? If so that would help a lot in terms of marks for engagement -- JoeyFox91 (talk) 16:39, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Would this be acceptable with regards to 'notability'? Or would this subsection be labelled as for educational purposes itself? FrankMcCann (talk) 17:56, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well now we have found a lot of resources on Evelyn Ellerman (^^Links above^^), we may have enough content if we pool what we have together and put it on the article page as linked eariler --JoeyFox91 (talk) 17:59, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
From past experience in my other assessment, notability is mainly applied to new articles and their deletion, adding to another article is less strict but the content must be verifiable Frank --Tomswainson (talk) 18:29, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If she is a separate page then fair enough (I think there’s enough literature to be honest) but if we decide a link back is the plan, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athabasca_University#Distance_education is where I think the information and link needs to go. But I take it from recent edits were staying with the separate page. FrankMcCann (talk) 10:04, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think we have enough information to make a page, rather than a re-direct or whatever. However, don't we need to release it in order for people to interact with it? If so we need to do that now! --JoeyFox91 (talk) 18:42, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think we need to make it public, but at least we have the article.  :-). --xlucky_charmx (talk) 16:11, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Releasing an article to the public

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It's okay to be confused about Wikipedia; it can often be a confusing place. It sounds like you're concerned about the notability of Evelyn Ellerman. A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of multiple published secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
Currently, it is hard to tell how she meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. See Wikipedia:Notability (academics), which says, "Having published does not, in itself, make an academic notable, no matter how many publications there are. Notability depends on the impact the work has had on the field of study." What impact has she had? Has she won any prestigious awards? Is she the head of any scholarly society?
I thought your engagement marks would be covered by "Interacting with other Wikipedians", which all of you have definitely done. To submit the draft for review and possible creation, click the "Submit the page!" link in the big white box at the top of your draft. --Geniac (talk) 02:53, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I have found some links that might be useful.

http://cmns.athabascau.ca/flashintro/

http://www.google.co.uk/#q=dr.+evelyn+ellerman&hl=en&ei=XCA6UdCQL6uP7Abz8YFQ&sqi=2&start=10&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=b49df528c3b216e2&biw=1056&bih=759

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:uM2w-HtAt70J:asiapacific.anu.edu.au/pambu/docs/08MarHonolulu.pdf+dr.+evelyn+ellerman&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShBUpYHFENjmYDL7IX-WRgzXpzHYTg1rLZLjgeqKEPPQtl_uL5q56lJgF50ivIuH4hbBYGJvyrMZQTU4fAICkRRgsTgLjmmbWe7zcBMUK5sIwBWcPZnjbuAADkvHB2Aeep7AP9Y&sig=AHIEtbS4z_Q3rgvFPD58we9sghL-gKl-uA

http://ah.brookes.ac.uk/conference/presentation/charles_granston_richards_and_the_east_african_literature_bureau/

http://www.voicemagazine.org/search/searchdisplay.php?ART=5288

http://www.augsa.com/index.php/news/1-articles/396-e-lab-now-open-for-new-learning.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlaRY5bJ2AA --xlucky_charmx (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:43, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=6fjz9xiTkq0C&oi=fnd&pg=PA61&dq=Evelyn+Ellerman&ots=JlPxZ6ULoM&sig=fHCHmi9_0LTcCt3cJI6EQlJ-cWA&redir_esc=y%23v=onepage&q=Evelyn%20Ellerman&f=false FrankMcCann (talk) 10:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://cmns.athabascau.ca/faculty/eellerman/ FrankMcCann (talk) 10:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.open-au.com/inside.php?attr=97&type=news FrankMcCann (talk) 10:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.facetofacemedia.ca/page.php?sectionID=3&pageID=51FrankMcCann (talk) 10:28, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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