User talk:Juice3kh

May 2022[edit]

Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:27, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The sources literally states what I wrote. Can you not read? Juice3kh (talk) 23:06, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're not going to be here for a long time if you're gonna speak like that. Kindly read WP:NPA and WP:POV. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:31, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I literally just wrote what is known as a historical fact? It is literally wrote all the sources state!!!

1) Arshin Adib-Moghaddam (2017), Psycho-nationalism, Cambridge University Press, p. 40, ISBN 9781108423076, Shah Ismail pursued a relentless campaign of forced conversion of the majority Sunni population in Iran to (Twelver) Shia Islam...

2) Islam: Art and Architecture, Könemann, 2004, p. 501, ISBN 9783833111785, Shah persecuted the philosophers, mystics, and Sufis who had been promoted by his grandfather, and unleashed fanatical campaigns of forcible conversion on Sunnis, Jews, Christians and other religious minorities

3) Melissa L. Rossi (2008), What Every American Should Know about the Middle East, Penguin, ISBN 9780452289598, Forced conversion in the Safavid Empire made Persia for the first time dominantly Shia and left a lasting mark: Persia, now Iran, has been dominantly Shia ever since, and for centuries the only country to have a ruling Shia majority. Juice3kh (talk) 23:37, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Still, going from 'Safavid forced conversion of Iran' to 'Shia Islam to Safavid conversion of Iran' is not neutral. It seems you still haven't read WP:NPOV. If you think you're in the right, then make a move request. Also, writing multiple !!! is not gonna make your argument stronger. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:39, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is neutral when it is literally what the sources states: Arshin Adib-Moghaddam (2017), Psycho-nationalism, Cambridge University Press, p. 40, ISBN 9781108423076, Shah Ismail pursued a relentless campaign of forced conversion of the majority Sunni population in Iran to (Twelver) Shia Islam...

Juice3kh (talk) 23:48, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also at least change the title back to its original title "Safavid conversion of Iran to Shia Islam"

NOT "Safavid conversion of Iran"

This is extremely deceitful. Juice3kh (talk) 00:00, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ops, that one was a mistake, thought I moved it to 'Safavid conversion of Iran to Shia Islam'. I can't even move it back any longer. I will notify an admin. --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:07, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Now can we go back to the initial discussion. You said the title I changed it too was biased, when clearly, I just wrote what all the sources exactly say.

If anything it seems you are the biased one? Juice3kh (talk) 01:15, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Next time you make a comment on me I will take you on a trip to WP:ANI. Read WP:ASPERSIONS. As I said, make a move request if you're so confident. --HistoryofIran (talk) 10:13, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wow look how threatening you are being. You are the one who started making comments first. All I did was change the name to what the sources said. Please can you tell me what was biased about that?

By the looks of it, it seems like you are an extreme Iranian nationalist trying to hide history. Juice3kh (talk) 14:10, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BTW It is funny how you can accuse me of adding 'personal analysis' and being 'biased', but when I accuse you of the same, you cry wolf and play sheep?

Ironic right? Juice3kh (talk) 14:13, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

More WP:NPA and WP:ASPERSIONS. I wasn't threatening, here we have a rules, which you currently keep breaking. I never accused you of being 'biased', and the 'personal analysis' comment is just a possible scenario mentioned by the template I used on your talk page. It seems like you want to do everything but make a move request. Even better, if you think I'm being disruptive, why don't you report me instead? --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:19, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 2022[edit]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 105.106.76.126 (talk) 21:19, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 2022[edit]

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Akbariyya, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:55, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ANI notice[edit]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. HistoryofIran (talk) 15:32, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Abu Hafs Siraj al-Din al-Ghaznawi (August 6)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Abu Hafs Siraj al-Din al-Ghaznawi and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Theroadislong (talk) 15:33, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Juice3kh! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 15:33, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 2022[edit]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action.

You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

Cullen328 (talk) 16:09, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please state what other 'problems with my behavior'. You cannot just block me with 'vague' claims. I was told I was blocked due to legal threats being made and that I had to take that back. I had no idea that was a thing, hence took back the comments immediately. I did what was needed, however now you have completely changed the bar? How is this fair?? Juice3kh (talk) 21:08, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am complying with all policies. There has only been one other issue with anyone, ironically it was by @historyofiran otherwise I have been a good member of Wikipedia.

Regarding your point about the legal point being removed, I have CLEARLY stated I have taken it back. Instead of being defensive why can you not be cooperative and encourage a healthy culture on Wikipedia to a new editor, by maybe helping such person in what is needed to be done to remove the unblock rather then putting them down, being overly harsh to said new member and changing the goalpost?

If you would like me to remove the comment, I would have been more than happy to, but please just be clear and consistent. I was told specifically my block was due to 'making legal threats or taking legal action.' Nothing else was mentioned. Hence by deleting the comment I have completely complied with the policies and guidelines. Now please can you comply with the policies and guidelines as stated by you,by unblocking me as I have done what was asked of me.

@Cullen328 Juice3kh (talk) 22:11, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To claim that I am disingenuous and accused me of being part of an agenda shows YOU are the one doing the bullying not me! I took back the commented like asked, I then specifically deleted the comment like asked but you still have not unblocked me!!! I have done EVERYTHING asked off me to be unblocked but you still do not do so? You are the ones being a bully not me!!!

@Deepfriedokra Juice3kh (talk) 13:23, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Juice3kh (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I did not know legal theats means your account gets locked. In that case I take the threat back Juice3kh (talk) 16:48, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

The legal threats are just part of the problem with your behavior. And if you create sockpuppet accounts as you've threatened, they will be blocked. Acroterion (talk) 18:12, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Please state what other 'problems with my behavior'. You cannot just block me with 'vague' claims. I was told I was blocked due to legal threats being made and that I had to take that back. I had no idea that was a thing, hence took back the comments immediately. I did what was needed, however now you have completely changed the bar? How is this fair??

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Juice3kh (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Your reason here Juice3kh (talk) 5:09 pm, Today (UTC−4) Please state what other 'problems with my behavior'. You cannot just block me with 'vague' claims. I was told I was blocked due to legal threats being made and that I had to take that back. I had no idea that was a thing, hence took back the comments immediately. I did what was needed, however now you have completely changed the goalposts? How is this fair??

Decline reason:

The legal threat is only part of the problem-- the part that broke the camel's back. It is part of the overall pattern, just from a quick scan of this page, of bullying. The personal attacks are another part of the bullying.. You've also made unsourced edits. That needs to be addressed. I mean, really. This is a bit disingenuous, these problems are all spelt out on this talk page. And at the ANI tgread. My overall assessment is that you serve some agenda or another. You are NOTCOMPATIBLE with this project and I would think NOTHERE to build the encyclopedia. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:58, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You must comply with all policies and guidelines. The legal threat has not been removed or struck out. Threatening to create a new account to evade scrutiny is unacceptable. Your generally argumentative and accusatory pattern of interacting with other editors is problematic. Cullen328 (talk) 21:14, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

PS-- What Cullen said.

-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:01, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To claim that I am disingenuous and accused me of being part of an agenda shows YOU are the one doing the bullying not me! I took back the commented like asked, I then specifically deleted the comment like asked but you still have not unblocked me!!! I have done EVERYTHING asked off me to be unblocked but you still do not do so? You are the ones being a bully not me!!! Juice3kh (talk) 13:23, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Abu Hafs Siraj al-Din al-Ghaznawi[edit]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 16:02, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Abu Hafs Siraj al-Din al-Ghaznawi[edit]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:45, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]