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Another shitty National Awards?
Did you see the winner's names? I am still ROFL. Akshay Kumar won for a shitty film. Alia should have got a Special Mention. WTF! If Sonam Kapoor can get a special mention for playing a National Hero then why Priyanka didn't get for Mary Kom. These awards are confusing as hell with baffling selection criteria. By this Sonam probably has become the worst actress to win a National Award, though she was good in Neerja.Krish | Talk 07:47, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Why do you always say such horrible things about other actresses? Please don't. Everyone has their strengths. Appreciate it when someone other than your favourite actress delivers a good performance instead of spreading negativity all the time. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:54, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- I am questioning the idea of awarding an actress who played a National Hero. And by the way Priyanka is the only one who has been consistently snubbed from these awards Barfi, Mary Kom, Bajirao Mastani and now Ventilator. tell me another name. Vidya for Kahaani maybe who else?Krish | Talk 08:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Someone or the other is always snubbed. Doesn't mean we need to go on with tasteless rants. I HATE it when one performer is pitted against another, and I cannot stand people who do it. So next time if you have to criticize other actresses, or go on one of your ugly rants, please find someone who appreciates such talk, because I really don't. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:02, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- I didn't say she was undeserving for Neerja. I said it as a joke. Why would I be pissed for Best Actress or Special Mention? Priyanka wasn't even in the run. I am happy that her film won three awards. It's just the selection criteria is confusing. And, don't you think Alia should have got a Special mention atleast?Krish | Talk 08:12, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sometimes I hate the concept of one's success being achieved at another's expense. Because most films that don't win awards are ignored in favour of those that win. But I'd prefer a system where anything like "BFI's Top-100" is there in place of awards like "The Best Film Ever". Kailash29792 (talk) 08:19, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yes me too. But the main problem is the selection criteria in India. A supporting role gets considered for Best Actress (Priyanka in BM) so tell me how a 30 minute long performance can compete with Kangana's 2 hour role? Plus, there are numerous dumb rules which makes this frustrating.Krish | Talk 08:21, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Exactly, Kailash. People who genuinely love good movies will never waste their time spreading hate over pointless issues or warring about which actress is better than the other. If Alia didn't win an award, how in this world does that affect me? What affects me is when she gives a good performance, like she did in Udta Punjab. And I'm sure she'll continue to give good performances in the future, as will Sonam, and the other actresses. So why should I waste my time screaming over her or anyone else not winning an award? It's so pointless. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:26, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Krimuk, I am not spreading hate. Read before accusing me of hating on Sonam. I said this as a joke that she might be the least talented actress to win a National Award. I didn't say that Sonam's win was a joke. I said that about Akshay's win, which is obvious considering his performance in Airlift was far better and what about Manoj Bhajpai and Kailash was not even shading me. He was also questioning the selection criteria.Krish | Talk 08:30, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- But your additional text is right. It shouldn't affect me if someone looses an award. Still it makes you wonder. And, yes, a NFA does not make Alia's performance or Priyanka's film any less great.Krish | Talk 08:33, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Really? Read your edit summary. Ugh! What do you get by saying such horrible stuff? Anyway, my saying all this won't affect you one bit as you will continue to say such stuff within minutes, so I humbly request you to not post demeaning stuff about actors or actresses on my page anymore. I can't stand such negativity. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Oops! my bad. I wrote that without thinking anything. I got to stop worrying about awards, especially Indian. Maybe I should stop working on awards lists. I never gave importance to these awards earlier but after working on several awards lists something changed in me. You are right I need to stop.Krish | Talk 08:42, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Akki won the right award, but for the wrong film. Airlift looked far better than Rustom but maybe the periodic setting and courtroom drama theme appealed to the jury (kind of like classic hollywood style). Really pleased to see Zaira win for Dangal. Glad to see Joker getting the honours it deserves. It really should have been Udta Punjab but I feel the government interfered there but that's just me. Surprised with Dharma Durai's inclusion. Could have chosen Andipatti (beautiful song) but that's alright.
— Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 09:06, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, Akshay was fabulous in Airlift, but I haven't seen Rustom. And I believe you are right about the Government intervention on Udta Punjab. However, Neerja and Pink were both very well-deserved wins. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 09:32, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- You need to read this. You can see what content and good performance is according to the head of the jury of NFAs. She was literally panned for this film.Krish | Talk 11:05, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- I haven't seen Sarabjit, so I don't know how Aishwarya was in it. But sadly it seems they were going for nationalist films. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 06:25, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, that seems to be answer to everything these days. NumerounovedantTalk 08:02, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- I haven't seen Sarabjit, so I don't know how Aishwarya was in it. But sadly it seems they were going for nationalist films. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 06:25, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
- You need to read this. You can see what content and good performance is according to the head of the jury of NFAs. She was literally panned for this film.Krish | Talk 11:05, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, Akshay was fabulous in Airlift, but I haven't seen Rustom. And I believe you are right about the Government intervention on Udta Punjab. However, Neerja and Pink were both very well-deserved wins. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 09:32, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Akki won the right award, but for the wrong film. Airlift looked far better than Rustom but maybe the periodic setting and courtroom drama theme appealed to the jury (kind of like classic hollywood style). Really pleased to see Zaira win for Dangal. Glad to see Joker getting the honours it deserves. It really should have been Udta Punjab but I feel the government interfered there but that's just me. Surprised with Dharma Durai's inclusion. Could have chosen Andipatti (beautiful song) but that's alright.
- Oops! my bad. I wrote that without thinking anything. I got to stop worrying about awards, especially Indian. Maybe I should stop working on awards lists. I never gave importance to these awards earlier but after working on several awards lists something changed in me. You are right I need to stop.Krish | Talk 08:42, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Really? Read your edit summary. Ugh! What do you get by saying such horrible stuff? Anyway, my saying all this won't affect you one bit as you will continue to say such stuff within minutes, so I humbly request you to not post demeaning stuff about actors or actresses on my page anymore. I can't stand such negativity. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- But your additional text is right. It shouldn't affect me if someone looses an award. Still it makes you wonder. And, yes, a NFA does not make Alia's performance or Priyanka's film any less great.Krish | Talk 08:33, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Krimuk, I am not spreading hate. Read before accusing me of hating on Sonam. I said this as a joke that she might be the least talented actress to win a National Award. I didn't say that Sonam's win was a joke. I said that about Akshay's win, which is obvious considering his performance in Airlift was far better and what about Manoj Bhajpai and Kailash was not even shading me. He was also questioning the selection criteria.Krish | Talk 08:30, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Exactly, Kailash. People who genuinely love good movies will never waste their time spreading hate over pointless issues or warring about which actress is better than the other. If Alia didn't win an award, how in this world does that affect me? What affects me is when she gives a good performance, like she did in Udta Punjab. And I'm sure she'll continue to give good performances in the future, as will Sonam, and the other actresses. So why should I waste my time screaming over her or anyone else not winning an award? It's so pointless. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:26, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yes me too. But the main problem is the selection criteria in India. A supporting role gets considered for Best Actress (Priyanka in BM) so tell me how a 30 minute long performance can compete with Kangana's 2 hour role? Plus, there are numerous dumb rules which makes this frustrating.Krish | Talk 08:21, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sometimes I hate the concept of one's success being achieved at another's expense. Because most films that don't win awards are ignored in favour of those that win. But I'd prefer a system where anything like "BFI's Top-100" is there in place of awards like "The Best Film Ever". Kailash29792 (talk) 08:19, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- I didn't say she was undeserving for Neerja. I said it as a joke. Why would I be pissed for Best Actress or Special Mention? Priyanka wasn't even in the run. I am happy that her film won three awards. It's just the selection criteria is confusing. And, don't you think Alia should have got a Special mention atleast?Krish | Talk 08:12, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Someone or the other is always snubbed. Doesn't mean we need to go on with tasteless rants. I HATE it when one performer is pitted against another, and I cannot stand people who do it. So next time if you have to criticize other actresses, or go on one of your ugly rants, please find someone who appreciates such talk, because I really don't. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:02, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- I am questioning the idea of awarding an actress who played a National Hero. And by the way Priyanka is the only one who has been consistently snubbed from these awards Barfi, Mary Kom, Bajirao Mastani and now Ventilator. tell me another name. Vidya for Kahaani maybe who else?Krish | Talk 08:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Well you should watch Sarbjit because this film requires a talented viewer. My friend was watching it on his computer and I was writing an assignment and screaming is all I could hear. And, I had already told you that you should make your enemies watch Rustom because it's the best revenge you can have. LOL.Krish | Talk 04:28, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
40s films
Here are some must watch 40s films.
- 1940 — Fantasia, Foreign Correspondent, My Favorite Wife, Pinocchio and The Thief of Bagdad
- 1941 — Ball of Fire (A wonderful comedy with a lot of ROFL moments), Blood and Sand, Citizen Kane (A Must, must-see!), Dumbo, Honky Tonk, How Green Was My Valley, The Lady Eve, The Maltese Falcon (The stuff dreams are made of), Penny Serenade (One of Cary Grant's best performances, truly), The Reluctant Dragon, Sullivan's Travels, Suspicion and Ziegfeld Girl
- 1942 — Bambi, Cat People, For Me and My Gal (Gene Kelly's first film), The Glass Key, Mrs. Miniver, Once Upon a Honeymoon, The Palm Beach Story, The Pride of the Yankees, Saludos Amigos, The Talk of the Town and Yankee Doodle Dandy
- 1943 — For Whom the Bell Tolls, Jane Eyre, Lassie Come Home, The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, Sanshiro Sugata (Kurosawa's debut) and Shadow of a Doubt (My God, you have to see this Hitchcock masterpiece)
- 1944 — Arsenic and Old Lace (Another one of Cary Grant's funniest), Cover Girl (Lovely looking Rita Hayworth), Laura (Lovely looking Gene Tierney), Meet Me in St. Louis (Really gay i.e. happy and colourful film), The Scarlet Claw and The Woman in the Window (Dark stuff from Fritz Lang)
- 1945 — Anchors Aweigh (Particularly the Tom and Jerry sequence), And Then There Were None, The Bells of St. Mary's, Brief Encounter, The Lost Weekend, The Picture of Dorian Gray, Scarlet Street (Twice as dark from Fritz Lang), Spellbound and Ziegfeld Follies
- 1946 — The Best Years of Our Lives, The Big Sleep, Gilda (The best of all Hayworth films! So lovely!!), Great Expectations, The Killers (Ava Gardner is a goddess), My Darling Clementine and The Stranger
- 1947 — The Bachelor and the Bobby-Soxer (Another one of Cary Grant's funniest), The Bishop's Wife (Grant and Niven in the same film), Dark Passage (Bogart and Bacall's best film together), The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (You might find Bhoothnath being somewhat similar to it), The Lady from Shanghai, Miracle on 34th Street (Only next to Frank Capra's Christmas masterpiece), Monsieur Verdoux, Out of the Past, The Paradine Case and Possessed
- 1948 — Chandralekha, Drunken Angel (First Kurosawa film with Toshiro Mifune), A Foreign Affair, Hamlet, Key Largo, Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House (Another one of Cary Grant's funniest. Doc recommends this), The Naked City, The Red Shoes, Sorry, Wrong Number and The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (A must-see if you like Humphrey Bogart)
- 1949 — Adam's Rib, Andaz, I Was a Male War Bride (Cary Grant cross-dressing) and White Heat (A true James Cagney film)
Hope you enjoy them. 
— Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 07:35, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
60s films
Aah, the swinging 60s. So much films to choose from. I'll provide you with, as Maggie Smith would say, "The creme de la creme".
- 1960 — Inherit the Wind (particularly for its message on religion), Jis Desh Mein Ganga Behti Hai (Its a Raj Kapoor film, with an added bonus of a lovely looking Padmini. Then again, she always was lovely), The Magnificent Seven (particularly its cinematography and BGM), Mannadhi Mannan (MGR dancing! He hardly dances), Peeping Tom (Michael Powell's best film, period) and Spartacus (For Kirk Douglas' performance and Kubrick's technical work)
- 1961 — The Children's Hour (One of the first LGBT films), The Guns of Navarrone (Gregory Peck's best), Judgement at Nuremberg (Multi-starrer with some good soul-searching), Kappalottiya Thamizhan, One Hundred and One Dalmatians (Cruella De Vil, Cruella De Vil), One, Two, Three (ROFL film from Wilder), Palum Pazhamum, The Parent Trap, Pasamalar and Pava Mannippu (Two must-see Sivaji Ganesan films. Great songs too), Pocketful of Miracles (Singh Is Kinng got part of its concept from this Frank Capra film), The Steamroller and the Violin (Andrei Tarkovsky's student masterpiece) and Yojimbo (Inspiration for Clint Eastwood-Sergio Leone's Dollars Trilogy)
- 1962 — Cape Fear (Inspiration for Darr), Days of Wine and Roses, Dr. No (Sean Connery first James Bond film. I can't believe you haven't seen Connery's Bond in action), Ivan's Childhood (Tarkovsky's debut feature film), The Manchurian Candidate (Remember Bucky Barnes being brainwashed and a direct reference to the film in Civil War? This film is where it all comes from), Lolita (James Mason and Sue Lyon are terrific in this Kubrick masterpiece), The Miracle Worker (Anne Bancroft and Patty Duke (Respect to both) are in top form!!! SLB used this as his basis for Black), Nenjil Or Aalayam, Sanjuro (Follow-up to Yojimbo) and That Touch of Mink (Grant and Day are wonderful)
- 1963 — Charade (Grant in his last blockbuster film), Cleopatra (Elizabeth Taylor in all her glory), From Russia with Love (You should see this Bond film first), The Great Escape (Brilliant film!), Irma la Douce (MacLaine and Lemmon are funny!), It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (Dhamaal copied it almost frame-by-frame, while Bhagam Bhag copied its climax), Lilies of the Field (Sidney Poitier is so good in this. Then again, he always was) and This Sporting Life (You'll like it if you take to kitchen-sink films)
- 1964 — Becket (O'Toole and Richard Burton in the same film), Dr. Strangelove (Peter Sellers in triple roles! Do answer to the Coca-Cola company please), Fail Safe, A Fistful of Dollars (If only they apologised to the mule!), Goldfinger, A Hard Day's Night (The Beatles. Nothing more to say), Kadhalikka Neramillai, Kai Koduttha Dheivam (Comical stand-up film. Songs are great here), Karnan (Sivaji Ganesan in top form. Lovely songs too), Marnie, Navarathri (Playing at night, Sleeping during the day. This is my world!), The Pawnbroker (Steiger should have won that Oscar), Poompuhar, Puthiya Paravai (A whodunit), Sangam (Do I need to really say?), Server Sundaram, Seven Days in May, A Shot in the Dark, Topkapi and What a Way to Go! (Funny MacLaine)
- 1965 — Aayirathil Oruvan, Doctor Zhivago, Enga Veettu Pillai (The film that catapulted MGR to politics), For a Few Dollars More, The Hill (Don't muck it up), How to Murder Your Wife (Have to see this. Lemmon and Terry Thomas, especially the latter will make you cry with laughter), Ship of Fools, The Slender Thread (A thrilling effort from Poitier and Bancroft), The Spy Who Came in from the Cold (For Burton), Thiruvilaiyadal (Possibly the most treasured possession of Tamil cinema after Chandralekha) and Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines
- 1966 — Anbe Vaa, Arabesque (For the lovely Sophia Loren), Au Hasard Balthazar, The Fortune Cookie, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (YOU MUST SEE THIS! :-)), How to Steal a Million, Khartoum, Persona (One of Bergman's best for a reason which you will see in the film) and Saraswati Sabatham
- 1967 — Asterix the Gaul, Bama Vijayam, Cool Hand Luke, In Cold Blood, Iru Malargal, The Jungle Book (Nothing can beat this version. Phil Harris in top form with a scat-singing Louis Prima to boot!), Kandan Karunai, The Taming of the Shrew (For Liz and Dick), Thiruvarutchelvar and To Sir, with Love (Now this is a real 60s film. You have to watch this!)
- 1968 — 2001: A Space Odyssey (Didn't like it at first. It grows on you deeply and spiritually as you see it again and again. Truly the definitive Kubrick masterpiece), Asterix and Cleopatra (Too funny, especially Cleopatra's bathing sequence), Bullitt (Cool Steve McQueen. Watch The Getaway before this though. Its even cooler), Coogan's Bluff (Eastwood is such a romantic in this one), Ethir Neechal, No Way to Treat a Lady, The Odd Couple (Lemmon and Matthau are too good!), Padosan, The Party (Peter Sellers as an Indian!), The Producers and Thillana Mohanambal
- 1969 — Anne of the Thousand Days, A Boy Named Charlie Brown, Cactus Flower (David Dhawan ridiculed this really good Matthau-Bergman-Goldie Hawn film with Maine Pyar Kyun Kiya), Easy Rider (Jack Nicholson's breakthrough film and another definitive 60s film), Kes, Take the Money and Run (Remember the scene where Riteish Deshmukh showing a soap pistol to Sanjay Mishra? Copied from this Woody Allen film. Allen's breakthrough film too)
Hope you enjoy them. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 08:37, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Ssven for all that effort. I really appreciate it. :)) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 15:52, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi, my article recently achieved GA status, however I keep working on it and get in touch with other editors to make sure everything is good. As English is my second language my main concern is grammar, language accuracy etc rather than the content. If you could have a read through and correct any mistakes you spot that would very much appreciated. ArturSik (talk) 18:47, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Hi. I'll try to give it a read later this week. Alternately, do try out the Wikipedia: Guild of Copy Editors. They are pretty awesome. Good luck! :) --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:08, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks:) I'm looking forward to it. ArturSik (talk) 19:55, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- hi, I'm just writing to let you know that all issues with the article have been sorted so you don't need to worry about ;) ArturSik (talk) 16:48, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks:) I'm looking forward to it. ArturSik (talk) 19:55, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Copy-edit
Hey Krimuk, could you possibly give the plot section here a quick copy-edit? It was a really difficult part to write, and could use a fresh pair of eyes as I don't see a point in looking for deficiencies in one's own work. Thanks either way. NumerounovedantTalk 17:15, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- I've been meaning to watch this film! Can I do it after I've seen the movie? I don't want the plot to be spoiled. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 17:38, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oh sure, in fact I just watched it on Netflix. (On an additional note, It's a really good thing that we finally have such a platform in India, considering that many worthy films rarely see daylight here.) Let me know how you feel about it. NumerounovedantTalk 18:00, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, it's on Netflix already? Perfect! I'll ping you once I've seen it. :)--Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:12, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oh sure, in fact I just watched it on Netflix. (On an additional note, It's a really good thing that we finally have such a platform in India, considering that many worthy films rarely see daylight here.) Let me know how you feel about it. NumerounovedantTalk 18:00, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Advice for writing an actress biography.
Hi. Hope you're well. I have been on and off working on the biography article for a Danish actress Birgitte Hjort Sørensen which I'm hoping to get to GA level. This was what it was like before my first edits: [[1]]. She is very early in her career. I wanted to request some advice on how I could improve this article as you have written many similar types of articles. Cowlibob (talk) 20:38, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- Sure. Do you want to email me? It's much easier to talk there. :) --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 06:51, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
Manikarnika and Baahubali
I am confused as hell. Wasn't Ketan Mehta directing this historical drama? But considering the writer is Vijendra Prasad (Baahubali, Eega, Magadheera), I am super excited for this one. It won't be wrong if I said that Kangana has the best roles right now in Bollywood. This is being made in three langauges, just think of the awards she will win. Only she can break Shabana Azmi's NFA record. Don't you think?Krish | Talk 08:39, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- I hope they do justice to a personality as iconic as Rani Lakshmibai. That should be the main aim of the production. Having said that, I dislike Vijendra Prasad's writing with a vengeance, so I hope this time he attempts something that's not brain-dead. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 15:45, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I assume the war scenes in part 2 put you off. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 16:58, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Not just the war scenes. I obviously loved the way the film looked, but the plot was so ridiculously weak, and everything about it was so damn loud, that for all the progress we've made in CG over the years, we don't seem to have come very far when it comes to telling a complex, original story or form characters with half-a-decent arc. That's obviously just my opinion, and the majority of Indian audiences don't care about originality as long as they are entertained. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 17:59, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Baahubali is an unsubtle film. In terms of both visuals and storytelling, this was never grounded save for Prabhas' performances (at least he didn't make weird faces). For me, Baahubali works (both parts). But always, and forever, the film that makes me respect Rajamouli is Eega. The very core thought of a dead man reborn as a fly and torment his enemy was so fun. Maryada Ramanna (link with subs) too was a very good film which seemed really fine except for the melodramatic climax (so loud score). Sadly, it was ruined as Son of Sardaar by including unnecessary heroism and fights. Coming to Krish, the director of Manikarnika, i loved all his Telugu films except Gautamiputra Satakarni which is a historical based on the Satavahana king Satakarni I. Now, make your own assessments. I am waiting with a vengeance too. :) ** Pavan Jandhyala ** 01:47, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- You are right Krimuk, there were some portions in the film which I didn't like. For example the first 20 minutes seemed forced. I felt the makers betrayed Kattappa's character by writing him as a comic relief. Plus, that early portion of Kumar Verma (the actor was terrible; only making weird faces) was a joke. I agree the background score was super loud (I hated it the most) and the score of part 1 was on point. I saw the movie with my friends and we all were laughing on the over-acting by the extras, some of whom were directly staring at the camera and some were laughing during those scenes. We all laughed the hardest during Tammannah's horse riding scene. LOL. However, the performances were really good—Prabhas, Anushka Shetty, Ramya Krishan, Rana Daggubatti and Nassar were all great. Some may think of Sivagami's character to be loud (and weird face making) but I thought her portrayal was good. I really loved the film not because of CGI, or the gorgeous production design and cinematography but for the emotional quotient, which I miss in Bollywood films now-a-days.Krish | Talk 03:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Fair enough. We all have our preferences. :) I believe that Bajirao Mastani set a gold standard for what a commercial Indian historical drama can achieve, in both visual flair and emotional depth. Of course, Mr. Rajamouli has a vision that's unparalleled, and I can only imagine how much of a masterpiece he'll make if given a good script to work with. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 06:28, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Loudness, overacting, skin show and, of course, Grapes is something quite common in contemporary Telugu films (no offense). I suppose it might not be everyone's cup of tea. Try the old films (pre 90s), they are better in many ways. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 07:38, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Grapes? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:50, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah. If you look at the songs, especially duets, you'll most likely see grapes. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 08:00, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- LOL, that's a strange kink. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:19, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- I have to completely agree with Krimuk's comment on Bajirao Mastani. The scenes of Ranveer and Priyanka are the real tearjerker. I am waiting for a contemporary romance drama from SLB, this was in the news but he chose to make Padmavati instead. Coming to Rajamouli, I think he could turn The Immortals of Meluha and Mahabharat into a masterpiece.Krish | Talk 09:12, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- LOL, that's a strange kink. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:19, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah. If you look at the songs, especially duets, you'll most likely see grapes. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 08:00, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Grapes? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:50, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Loudness, overacting, skin show and, of course, Grapes is something quite common in contemporary Telugu films (no offense). I suppose it might not be everyone's cup of tea. Try the old films (pre 90s), they are better in many ways.
- Fair enough. We all have our preferences. :) I believe that Bajirao Mastani set a gold standard for what a commercial Indian historical drama can achieve, in both visual flair and emotional depth. Of course, Mr. Rajamouli has a vision that's unparalleled, and I can only imagine how much of a masterpiece he'll make if given a good script to work with. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 06:28, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- You are right Krimuk, there were some portions in the film which I didn't like. For example the first 20 minutes seemed forced. I felt the makers betrayed Kattappa's character by writing him as a comic relief. Plus, that early portion of Kumar Verma (the actor was terrible; only making weird faces) was a joke. I agree the background score was super loud (I hated it the most) and the score of part 1 was on point. I saw the movie with my friends and we all were laughing on the over-acting by the extras, some of whom were directly staring at the camera and some were laughing during those scenes. We all laughed the hardest during Tammannah's horse riding scene. LOL. However, the performances were really good—Prabhas, Anushka Shetty, Ramya Krishan, Rana Daggubatti and Nassar were all great. Some may think of Sivagami's character to be loud (and weird face making) but I thought her portrayal was good. I really loved the film not because of CGI, or the gorgeous production design and cinematography but for the emotional quotient, which I miss in Bollywood films now-a-days.Krish | Talk 03:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Baahubali is an unsubtle film. In terms of both visuals and storytelling, this was never grounded save for Prabhas' performances (at least he didn't make weird faces). For me, Baahubali works (both parts). But always, and forever, the film that makes me respect Rajamouli is Eega. The very core thought of a dead man reborn as a fly and torment his enemy was so fun. Maryada Ramanna (link with subs) too was a very good film which seemed really fine except for the melodramatic climax (so loud score). Sadly, it was ruined as Son of Sardaar by including unnecessary heroism and fights. Coming to Krish, the director of Manikarnika, i loved all his Telugu films except Gautamiputra Satakarni which is a historical based on the Satavahana king Satakarni I. Now, make your own assessments. I am waiting with a vengeance too. :) ** Pavan Jandhyala ** 01:47, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Not just the war scenes. I obviously loved the way the film looked, but the plot was so ridiculously weak, and everything about it was so damn loud, that for all the progress we've made in CG over the years, we don't seem to have come very far when it comes to telling a complex, original story or form characters with half-a-decent arc. That's obviously just my opinion, and the majority of Indian audiences don't care about originality as long as they are entertained. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 17:59, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I assume the war scenes in part 2 put you off. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 16:58, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
A little demo perhaps? Here's an item song from Annamayya. Look from 02:26 onwards. Even in a devotional film. I was like "My word!" No grapes in "Manohari" thankfully. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 09:24, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Another one from 00:17 to 01:19. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 09:32, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- OMG, these are so fucking hilarious! I laughed like a maniac. Hahahaha!! Krimuk2.0 (talk) 15:26, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- I know right? These are just a few samples of the innumerable songs with Grapes in them. You might wonder how they got past the CBFC at the time. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 16:21, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- The CBFC are okay with crass innuendoes and hyper-sexualised women, but not with the depiction of natural sexual activities. Obviously. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 17:12, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Ssven2: That is fairly simple, Srini. Our CBFC, filmmakers, actors are all regressive people. At least, that is what the world believes. Once in Baradwaj Rangan's wordpress, someone weirdly named Dhanda Soru (meaning waste fellow in Tamil; seriously that was the name) made a comment "Malayalam is the cool, suave cousin you strive to be. Kannada is the cousin you keep hearing nice things about, but very rarely get to see. And Telugu is the cousin who’s essentially the clown of the family. Glimpses of potential, but is almost always looking for ways to try and drill their way through rock-bottom." Rangan replied "LOL. Might be the comment of the year so far". What can you say about that other than shaking heads in agreement. Our language, literature, poetry, culture, dressing, food, and even our deities (trust me this happened before me so many times) are ridiculed by South Indians leave North. I am not surprised that Telugu people are honoured nationwide and globally by referring them to as gultes and gultis. A film like Baahubali had to make Telugu popular, but now its a "regional" film. We are outcasts i say. :( ** Pavan Jandhyala ** 07:00, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Now lets look at a small demo. Please read this review of 1: Nenokkadine by a Tamil film fan/critic (reviewpuram looks like a blog with good following). See the perception of the reviewer about the Telugu audience. This is just one of the innumerable samples you can find on Google. Leave Chennai of Tamil Nadu, just go to the IT parks of the ever-friendly Bangalore of Karnataka and introduce yourself as a Telugu guy. You will understand. ** Pavan Jandhyala ** 07:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- The CBFC are okay with crass innuendoes and hyper-sexualised women, but not with the depiction of natural sexual activities. Obviously. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 17:12, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- I know right? These are just a few samples of the innumerable songs with Grapes in them. You might wonder how they got past the CBFC at the time.
- OMG, these are so fucking hilarious! I laughed like a maniac. Hahahaha!! Krimuk2.0 (talk) 15:26, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
BTW, did you watch the dubbed version? — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 09:15, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, I saw the dubbed Hindi version, which had a song called "Aa Aa Re Raja... Veeron Ke Veer Aa..." :P Krimuk2.0 (talk) 09:22, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- LOL. No wonder you gave it a low rating. You should have seen the original (Telugu or Tamil, with subs). You would have definitely liked it better. Dubbing artists often overact and exaggerate. You should look at the Telugu films aired on Zee Cinema and Sony Max. Much worse. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 09:31, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- I've come across those while flicking channels, and they all seem to be those over-the-top, loud, and crass action flicks, which I can't stand. But honestly, I genuinely didn't like much about B2 other than the lovely visuals. Well, that and how gorgeous both Prabhas and Anushka Shetty are. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 14:29, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Aren't they? Generally, I wasn't really excited to know about #WKKB though anyhow as I knew because of sandharpa suzhal, namma kannuku vera vazhi illa (meaning "circumstances led him to do it"). But I am amazed and proud that an Indian film is competing alongside Hollywood films and has been in the top 10 in the US for two weeks! (A rare feat). Generally, I love mythological tales as they give us a lot of moral lessons and virtues to learn from (I still read ACK books). — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 15:11, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Krimuk here! I mean most of the south Indian "Masala films" are over-the-top and loud. I have noticed this too. Apart from Kabali, Brindavanam, I, Enthiran, Baahubali and a film with Shriya Saran (don't know the name;she plays the sister of a don and the hero had to fall for other don's sister or something like that), I haven't seen any other film. They don't excite me at all. Once, I saw bits and pieces of Arya or Arya 2 on TV and after that I wanted to punch myself and it was so horrible that it forced me to change the channel, the dumb concept/treatment made me sick. I don't understand how a panned film like 1: Nenokkadine can have an 8.6 rating on IMDB but this is case with most of south Indian films. They have high ratings on IMDB despite panned reception. I think it has something to do with emotions and "good destroying evil".Krish | Talk 18:04, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Krish!: Tamil cinema is more than that now. Try and watch some of Vijay Sethupathi's films from 2012 onwards and you'll know. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 07:15, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, he is right. Try Vijay Sethupathi's Pizza, Naanum Rowdydthaan, Pannaiarum Padminium, Aandavan Kattalai, Sethupathi and Iraivi. Though slightly contrived Nadavula Konjam Patthum Kannom and Orange Mittai can be given a shot for their uniqueness. Other notable good Tamil films recently are Aaranya Kaandam, Jigarthanda, Dhruvangal Pathinaaru, Joker, Cuckoo, Visaranai, Indru Netru Naalai to name a few. Malayalam has even more to see like Angamaly Diaries, Bangalore Days, Premam, Charlie, Jomonte Suviseshangal, Puthiya Nirnayam, Oppam, Maheshinte Prathikaaram (i reviewed this GAN), Rakshadhikari Baiju Oppu, Oru Mexican Aparatha etc. Kannada too has good films like U-Turn, Rangitaranga, Lucia, Godhi Banna Sadharana Mykattu, Mr. & Mrs. Ramachari, Thithi, Kendasampige and others.
- I have seen all these films and am sure you guys too would find them lovely. Please stay away from Telugu cinema. You are progressive audience and we make regressive cinema. If not for a fool like me, their articles too would have been regressive enough. But worry not, i am undoubtedly the last exponent. ** Pavan Jandhyala ** 07:47, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Don't say that, Pavan. Pelli Choopulu, Gentleman (2016 film), Eega, Manam, Naa Bangaaru Talli and Kanche are some of the Telugu films that are worth a watch. You guys can even give Janatha Garage a go. Bro, if Telugu cinema is just those crappy, loud dubbed versions you see on Sony Max and Zee Cinema, think again and see the above-mentioned films (in their original version). Leaving Telugu, even Tamil films like Dhanush's Padikkadavan (not that good a film anyway except for its comedy) s dubbed as Dangerous Khiladi! LOL. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 09:26, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- LMAO Pavan! Krimuk2.0 (talk) 13:40, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- A Tamil film that I enjoyed tremendously is Vishwaroopam. It's one of the best thrillers ever produced in India. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 15:31, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Actors who seek to be more of entertainers than artists will eventually fade away from popularity. I'm sure actors like Vijay and any "mass hero" will eventually become like Michael Keaton's character in Birdman. Their "mass-entertainer" films too will face the same fate. --Kailash29792 (talk) 16:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Kailash29792: Give all of the current flock 10-12 years tops. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 16:14, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Actors who seek to be more of entertainers than artists will eventually fade away from popularity. I'm sure actors like Vijay and any "mass hero" will eventually become like Michael Keaton's character in Birdman. Their "mass-entertainer" films too will face the same fate. --Kailash29792 (talk) 16:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Don't say that, Pavan. Pelli Choopulu, Gentleman (2016 film), Eega, Manam, Naa Bangaaru Talli and Kanche are some of the Telugu films that are worth a watch. You guys can even give Janatha Garage a go. Bro, if Telugu cinema is just those crappy, loud dubbed versions you see on Sony Max and Zee Cinema, think again and see the above-mentioned films (in their original version). Leaving Telugu, even Tamil films like Dhanush's Padikkadavan (not that good a film anyway except for its comedy) s dubbed as Dangerous Khiladi! LOL.
- @Krish!: Tamil cinema is more than that now. Try and watch some of Vijay Sethupathi's films from 2012 onwards and you'll know.
- I have to agree with Krimuk here! I mean most of the south Indian "Masala films" are over-the-top and loud. I have noticed this too. Apart from Kabali, Brindavanam, I, Enthiran, Baahubali and a film with Shriya Saran (don't know the name;she plays the sister of a don and the hero had to fall for other don's sister or something like that), I haven't seen any other film. They don't excite me at all. Once, I saw bits and pieces of Arya or Arya 2 on TV and after that I wanted to punch myself and it was so horrible that it forced me to change the channel, the dumb concept/treatment made me sick. I don't understand how a panned film like 1: Nenokkadine can have an 8.6 rating on IMDB but this is case with most of south Indian films. They have high ratings on IMDB despite panned reception. I think it has something to do with emotions and "good destroying evil".Krish | Talk 18:04, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Aren't they? Generally, I wasn't really excited to know about #WKKB though anyhow as I knew because of sandharpa suzhal, namma kannuku vera vazhi illa (meaning "circumstances led him to do it"). But I am amazed and proud that an Indian film is competing alongside Hollywood films and has been in the top 10 in the US for two weeks! (A rare feat). Generally, I love mythological tales as they give us a lot of moral lessons and virtues to learn from (I still read ACK books).
- I've come across those while flicking channels, and they all seem to be those over-the-top, loud, and crass action flicks, which I can't stand. But honestly, I genuinely didn't like much about B2 other than the lovely visuals. Well, that and how gorgeous both Prabhas and Anushka Shetty are. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 14:29, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- LOL. No wonder you gave it a low rating. You should have seen the original (Telugu or Tamil, with subs). You would have definitely liked it better. Dubbing artists often overact and exaggerate. You should look at the Telugu films aired on Zee Cinema and Sony Max. Much worse.
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Meri Pyaari Pari
Have you seen the film? It is so sad that the film didn't turn out the way everyone expected. And, its failure is the biggest setback for her, even bigger than her decision to decline Piku and taking two year break for a dumb make-over, which had nothing to do with her films.Krish | Talk 08:50, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- Haven't heard anything good about it, so I gave it a miss. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 14:10, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
My fourth attempt at a film accolades list for FLC, Krimuk. I have nominated the list here. Feel free to leave comments. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 09:34, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. Good luck! :) --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:15, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
J-Law TFAR
See Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Jennifer Lawrence for the nomination. Leaving a procedural notice since you've been a major contributor to the page. Feel free to edit the blurb if you think it could be better (as long as it doesn't exceed 1,200 characters). Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:27, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
My sixth attempt at a film accolades list for FLC, Krimuk. I have nominated the list here. Feel free to leave comments. I am hoping you would since you like the film. — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 08:18, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Jennifer Lawrence filmography
You reverted my edit giving as reason "best this way". I strongly challenge this opinion. First of all, The Poker House is not a 2009 film, but a 2008 film, as not just external sources like IMDb, but the very Wiki page for the film shows. So that's a mistake plain and simple. Second, Like Crazy had a obsolete link that needs fixing. Third, narration for documentaries are not film roles. They need their own category as they usually do on Wikipedia where major filmographies are concerned. Fourth, The Devil You Know and House at the End of the Street have been released years after being filmed, so if it's correct to order them with their release date, it's also useful to put them in context chronologically at least through a note. Fifth, the current release order is not correct, as looking at the release dates from each page will show you. Lastly, the note for Oscar nominations and wins might not be strictly necessary, but I think it's "best that way". Therefore I'm reverting all back, please respect the work I've put on this and the improvements it brings. Thank you. Kumagoro-42 23:33, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
This is my fourth attempt at a featured list. Feel free to leave comments if any. :) Pavanjandhyala (talk) 18:37, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Jennifer Lawrence scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Jennifer Lawrence article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 15 August 2017. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 15, 2017. Thanks! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:36, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Krimuk, I'm happy to see you're editing this TFAR blurb, it was way too short. It's still at 915 characters, about 100 short, so I might add something unless you want to. - Dank (push to talk) 15:18, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
- Btw ... I added Catherine Zeta-Jones to WP:TFAP a while back, it's coming up on her birthday in September. I don't anticipate the same problems as before, but we'll see. - Dank (push to talk) 15:22, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Dank. It's good to be back, though I haven't been editing much. Please go ahead and add to the Lawrence blurb, maybe a line or two about her off-screen work. Also, thanks for adding Zeta-Jones. Hopefully, it works out this time. :) --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:05, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the edit. I get that the consensus on Hunger Games isn't quite "award-winning", but "lucrative" doesn't have the right connotations ... could you pick another word? - Dank (push to talk) 12:04, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- Changed to "top-grossing". That better? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:17, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- Perfect. - Dank (push to talk) 18:19, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- Changed to "top-grossing". That better? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:17, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the edit. I get that the consensus on Hunger Games isn't quite "award-winning", but "lucrative" doesn't have the right connotations ... could you pick another word? - Dank (push to talk) 12:04, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Dank. It's good to be back, though I haven't been editing much. Please go ahead and add to the Lawrence blurb, maybe a line or two about her off-screen work. Also, thanks for adding Zeta-Jones. Hopefully, it works out this time. :) --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:05, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for Jennifer Lawrence who "set a few records at the Oscars"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:38, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
JC/FAC
Hi Krimuk2.0. An edit like this does not generate a ping at my end. I think you need to add a fresh sig for that. In any case, I've now completed my run through for quotes. --John (talk) 22:54, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks! --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:10, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
@John: Just a gentle reminder about the FAC. :) --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:00, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Amy Adams FAC
Strictly, this nomination was out of process as Jessica Chastain hadn't been promoted when you nominated. Given that the latter was ready for promotion, it's not a big deal but in future, to avoid any problems, if you ping one of the coordinators (me or Ian Rose), we can give you permission to nominate another article if you are only waiting for final bits-and-pieces on an open FAC. Thanks, Sarastro1 (talk) 19:50, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Noted. Thank you. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 05:09, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Catherine Zeta-Jones
I just chanced across this page at FAC. Assuming you are the same person as User:Krimuk90, you may want to read this edit I placed there Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:39, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, thank you. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:57, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the article, TFA today, and thanks to SchroCat and others who shaped it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, Gerda. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 07:20, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Congrats on the TFA!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:25, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you! :) --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:41, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Vilambit badhai (Belated congratulations) TFA ke liye, yaar! — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 13:20, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
- Bohot dhanyawad, Ssven jee. 🙏 --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 14:26, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you!
For expanding Amy Adams' article. She is the best person in the world and my most favourite actress of all time. She deserved this kind of article for her body of work and you did it. I didn't know you had expanded it until now. Thanks again!Krish | Talk 17:41, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
- Aww, that's sweet. Thanks. :) --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 17:43, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
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