User talk:Krimuk2.0/Archive 29
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Tabloid style
Hi, it is regarding this and similar edits by this user. I find them tabloid-y. Also see this one, a lot has been added lately. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oh yea, very much so. I recently undid some of their tabloid-style writing on Emraan Hashmi's page. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 11:24, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Possibly a sock? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:02, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Another article [1], this looks like a POV from a user mostly working in a particular area (Telugu films). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Another concern in the above edit by that user was arrangement. Isn't the 1976 Tamil movie be mentioned first? This user moved the whole Telugu related section to the top. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:11, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Teamwork Barnstar | |
| For having become a consistent and helpful contributor to the WP:Top 25 Report. igordebraga ≠ 05:34, 28 January 2024 (UTC) |
Dual roles
In film cast sections, actors playing multiple roles should not be listed as
- Ranbir Kapoor in a dual role as
- Rannvijay Singh
- Aziz Haque
right? Simply *Actor as character and character is right? But this is a pan-Indian problem that I'm not able to permanently erase, as evident here.
Kailash29792 (talk) 10:16, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Prabhas
Would be nice if you could take a look at this article. Apart from this particular set of edits, I believe the article needs some copyedit/cleanup. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:51, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
March 2024 GAN backlog drive
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(t · c) buidhe 02:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Andrew Garfield reverts
- An editor can remove any message from their talk page. Removal of messages such as this simply mean that the editor has seen and read then. Lard Almighty (talk) 21:04, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- When I had done this previously I had admins breathing down my neck threatening to ban me for doing the same, unless that was an admin abusing power I'm not sure. But that is what I have known regarding removing messages, especially ones of that height. Spooderman6920 (talk) 13:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- As noted on your talk page, the warning was completely inappropriate. It was perfectly reasonable to remove it. Lard Almighty (talk) 13:51, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- When I had done this previously I had admins breathing down my neck threatening to ban me for doing the same, unless that was an admin abusing power I'm not sure. But that is what I have known regarding removing messages, especially ones of that height. Spooderman6920 (talk) 13:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- An editor can remove any message from their talk page. Removal of messages such as this simply mean that the editor has seen and read then. Lard Almighty (talk) 21:04, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Where is Kate? for deletion
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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 11:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Requesting some article expansion help
Greetings @Krimuk2.0
Hi, I am User:Bookku, On Wikipedia I engage in, finding information and knowledge gap areas in Wikipedia and promoting expansion of related drafts and articles. Came across your user profile (from recent article history Deepika Padukone) .
Requesting your visit to My Choice (2015 film) (still a draft in my userspace) and help expand the topic areas if you find topic interesting. Wish you very happy Wikipedia editing.
Thanks and warm regards
Bookku (talk) 09:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Crew (film)
I had a look at Crew (film) in connection with your request for page protection. If it were semi-protected, it would have prevented the addition of the plot summary, which appears to be a good addition, so I did not protect it. I wondered if the plot summary was a copyvio but Earwig does not flag it up as one. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Cwmhiraeth, the issue is IPs lowering the budget again and again, as well as spamming IMDB links of "casting department" in the production section. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 11:32, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Sunny Deol Signature
Why did you remove it from his page? Parminder Sarwara (talk) 01:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
The above article belongs to FA-class hence the "Citation needed" tag that I was compelled to add today would not be a good addition to the page. As a prominent contributor to the article and the individual responsible for its attainment of FA status, I kindly request that you address the issue at your earliest convenience. Additionally, I believe the adjustments I made to the captions are satisfactory. Should you wish to revert them, I suggest we engage in discussion on the talk page beforehand. I eagerly await your response. Regards MSincccc (talk) 11:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- "compelled to add" for what, exactly? Also, please understand that per WP:BRD and WP:STATUSQUO the article should remain in its stable version until a consensus is reached. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 11:46, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Krimuk2.0 Well I was only trying to help. I honestly don't understand why do you want to keep on mentioning "Larson" in the image captions when its clear that we are referring to only her for two reasons:1)The article is her biography and 2) Its an image in which is featured alone. Had it been a group photograph, I would have agreed with you. Regards and good luck with your future endeavours, MSincccc (talk) 12:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Because beginning a caption with "at" reads poorly. I'm not questioning your intentions here, please don't misunderstand. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:11, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- I also assume good faith. By the way, one user whom I know very well and with whom I have collaborated had nominated Aishwarya Rai Bachchan's article for GA. Nobody has still taken it up for review. I thought that you could help given you are familiar with articles related to the Hindi film industry. I don't know a thing about that being focused on European (mostly British) articles. Regards MSincccc (talk) 12:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I've been one of the most regular contributors on Rai Bachchan's page, and am familiar with Keivan's work on it. But I guess my reviewing it would be a conflict of interest, given my own work on it. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Krimuk2.0 I know you will not be reviewing the article but would you mind me reviewing it? Regards MSincccc (talk) 12:23, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Why would I mind? Please go ahead. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- But it’s a pretty long article. I know nothing about Indian films and whoever this person is. Just that Keivan has made major contributions to it recently. Regards MSincccc (talk) 12:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm gonna act like a WikiJaguar and add my own comment. Nobody doubts Krimuk2.0's qualifications to review an article, but given his extensive involvement with the page in question he simply cannot serve as the reviewer. I could not do it either if I were not the nominator. That being said, if this is a topic or person that you're not familiar with, then I would suggest you leave the review to a user who might be more qualified in terms of knowledge about Indian cinema/actors. That way he/she could point out the flaws and issues more easily. I don't know, maybe some uninvolved editor at WP:ICTF could be asked to carry the review. At the end of the day, I just want the review to be fair and transparent so that no one would question the article's status in the future. Keivan.fTalk 01:38, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'd say either Shshshsh or FrB.TG would be the best ones to review it, if they have some time. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 06:20, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm gonna act like a WikiJaguar and add my own comment. Nobody doubts Krimuk2.0's qualifications to review an article, but given his extensive involvement with the page in question he simply cannot serve as the reviewer. I could not do it either if I were not the nominator. That being said, if this is a topic or person that you're not familiar with, then I would suggest you leave the review to a user who might be more qualified in terms of knowledge about Indian cinema/actors. That way he/she could point out the flaws and issues more easily. I don't know, maybe some uninvolved editor at WP:ICTF could be asked to carry the review. At the end of the day, I just want the review to be fair and transparent so that no one would question the article's status in the future. Keivan.fTalk 01:38, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- But it’s a pretty long article. I know nothing about Indian films and whoever this person is. Just that Keivan has made major contributions to it recently. Regards MSincccc (talk) 12:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Why would I mind? Please go ahead. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Krimuk2.0 I know you will not be reviewing the article but would you mind me reviewing it? Regards MSincccc (talk) 12:23, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I've been one of the most regular contributors on Rai Bachchan's page, and am familiar with Keivan's work on it. But I guess my reviewing it would be a conflict of interest, given my own work on it. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- I also assume good faith. By the way, one user whom I know very well and with whom I have collaborated had nominated Aishwarya Rai Bachchan's article for GA. Nobody has still taken it up for review. I thought that you could help given you are familiar with articles related to the Hindi film industry. I don't know a thing about that being focused on European (mostly British) articles. Regards MSincccc (talk) 12:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Because beginning a caption with "at" reads poorly. I'm not questioning your intentions here, please don't misunderstand. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 12:11, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Krimuk2.0 Well I was only trying to help. I honestly don't understand why do you want to keep on mentioning "Larson" in the image captions when its clear that we are referring to only her for two reasons:1)The article is her biography and 2) Its an image in which is featured alone. Had it been a group photograph, I would have agreed with you. Regards and good luck with your future endeavours, MSincccc (talk) 12:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Have a look
Have a look at these edits. Substantial removal of content. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:44, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Dwayne Johnson
Please discuss the section heading change at Talk:Dwayne_Johnson#Section_heading. Ravensfire (talk) 13:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Italics
Hi. You raised a good point here and I cannot really argue with that, but I'm sort of stuck between following the manual of style and the examples set by a featured article such as Shah Rukh Khan. In Khan's article for example, the name of the Order of Arts and the Letters is italicized in French, while Padma Shri is not. Should we just remove the italics in both his and Rai Bachchan's articles or should we apply the manual of style strictly? Just asking for an opinion. Keivan.fTalk 14:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) That was a fairly recent edit, it was done here, with an edit summary pointing to MOS:FOREIGNITALIC. Does that apply to awards? I'm not sure, as well how would that apply to Indian awards. MOS:FOREIGN isn't 100% clear either. It's mentioned that a proper name shouldn't be italicized, unless it would be for another reason, with the example given being the title of a book or play. Might be worth a question on the MOS talk page. Ravensfire (talk) 15:52, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Ravensfire: Thanks for bringing that up. I think their edit actually does follow the manual of style (depending on how you interpret it), but I'm starting to think that the guidelines are a little bit vague. Like what if the name is prevalent enough in English? I guess Padma Shri and the other Indian honours are relatively common terms in Indian English. Another option would be mentioning the French honour (Order of Arts and the Letters) by its English name; after all the other French honour is described as "Legion of Honour" in the case of Shah Rukh Khan and Amitabh Bachchan, so I don't understand why the same cannot be done for this one. If I don't get enough input here then I'll consider a discussion on the MOS talk page. Keivan.fTalk 16:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Legion of Honour is an interesting one as it seems it is generally referred to by the English text - the article is at Legion of Honour (at least here), not at the french text. Even for Ordre des Arts et des Lettres, there's a redirect for Order of Arts and Letters and there are multiple articles that use the English text - Meryl_Streep, Bruce Willis, [2] for more. Inconsistency at it's finest! Yay! The Indian awards don't seem to have a translated-to-english that's normally used - nothing in the article lead or a redirect. I did a search in the MOS talk archives, [3] was interesting. Having said that, Ordre des Arts et des Lettres has it in italics in the article itself, Padma Shri is not. So should we be consistent with the format in the article? Every time I look into something, it seems like I can switch sides. Sorry, not helpful, I know. Ravensfire (talk) 17:44, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think whatever we choose, we should be consistent across articles. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:58, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Krimuk2.0: I hope you don't mind us descending on your talk page :)
- @Ravensfire: My solution would be to use the English name for the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres in both Khan and Rai Bachchan's articles. That eliminates the MOS:FOREIGNITALIC issue and makes it consistent with "Legion of Honour". I'd also say there is no need to keep "Padma Shri" italicised since the phrase is prevalent in Indian English and I don't see italics being used for it in any of the other articles. If you agree on this, I'll make the necessary changes. Keivan.fTalk 19:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Concur with the hope for forbearance!
- Keivan.f - that sounds like a good approach to me. Krimuk2.0, okay with you? Ravensfire (talk) 19:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think whatever we choose, we should be consistent across articles. :) Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:58, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Legion of Honour is an interesting one as it seems it is generally referred to by the English text - the article is at Legion of Honour (at least here), not at the french text. Even for Ordre des Arts et des Lettres, there's a redirect for Order of Arts and Letters and there are multiple articles that use the English text - Meryl_Streep, Bruce Willis, [2] for more. Inconsistency at it's finest! Yay! The Indian awards don't seem to have a translated-to-english that's normally used - nothing in the article lead or a redirect. I did a search in the MOS talk archives, [3] was interesting. Having said that, Ordre des Arts et des Lettres has it in italics in the article itself, Padma Shri is not. So should we be consistent with the format in the article? Every time I look into something, it seems like I can switch sides. Sorry, not helpful, I know. Ravensfire (talk) 17:44, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Ravensfire: Thanks for bringing that up. I think their edit actually does follow the manual of style (depending on how you interpret it), but I'm starting to think that the guidelines are a little bit vague. Like what if the name is prevalent enough in English? I guess Padma Shri and the other Indian honours are relatively common terms in Indian English. Another option would be mentioning the French honour (Order of Arts and the Letters) by its English name; after all the other French honour is described as "Legion of Honour" in the case of Shah Rukh Khan and Amitabh Bachchan, so I don't understand why the same cannot be done for this one. If I don't get enough input here then I'll consider a discussion on the MOS talk page. Keivan.fTalk 16:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Solution
Hi Krimuk2.0. Regarding the redirects; I searched each of these terms up before creating a redirect out of them and I would not have gone ahead if I were not getting online results. I honestly don't have the stamina to fight over trivial stuff and I'm sure you have other important things to handle. As I've said before I have no strong feelings about this. Just send me a list of the redirects you think are problematic and I'll ask one of the admins to delete them. That will spare me the stress of handling multiple discussions at the same time. I hope you are not harboring any ill feelings because of this; because as a person who is surrounded by women who have not taken up their husbands' surnames, being "misogyny" would be the last thing I'd want my work to be associated with :) All the best. Keivan.fTalk 19:50, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- No ill feelings at all and no attack on you or your edits in any way. The "misogyny" comment was also not directed towards you, but towards the general assumption amongst very many Indians (including our journalists) who think that a woman's name should automatically change after her marriage, which I find infuriating. As far as I can see, the ones I've nominated for now are the only ones that exist. I'm sorry for the troubles. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:53, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not at all; I'm the one who should be apologizing for creating the headache in the first place. I totally understand and I can assure you that this is not something that happens only in India. My aim has always been to follow the sources, and well, the sources are not always accurate or morally correct. Your argument has been convincing, and I wouldn't mind the redirects getting deleted with the sole exception of Rani Mukerji because she herself has embraced the alternative name at least once. Best of luck in your endeavors. Cheers. Keivan.fTalk 20:04, 26 May 2024 (UTC)