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Shup

He has extended the olive branch to me, and I do accept - but under condition. The fear I have of withdrawing a RfC is that the user repeats such behavior in the future. He has personally insulted me several times... and heavy contributing editor or not, that is completely unacceptable. If you see in my edits, there are times I may disagree wholeheartedlly with a user/editor - but never will I lower myself to make the kind of insults that user Shup does. If you can guarantee that this user will learn from this and not repeat this behavior, I will kindly withdraw (if this is the case, how do I do this? delete the input?). I agree that Shup has a lot of useful, intelligent contributions, and I value his intelligence and input. But he cannot (ever) stand on a pedestal to the world... wouldn't you agree? :) Rarelibra 14:09, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I deleted the RfC. Shup seems to be receptive. Let's hope we can curtail any further personal attacks and work together. When he is correct and has reference, I am very willing to back him up. Rarelibra 16:24, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, he's on quite a roll. I have to say this - he doesn't seem to want to be given the chance to edit and, instead, chooses to continue to make personal attacks. I deleted some of the offensive comments on his talk page, but I will not be 'on patrol' to protect him. If he continues, he will build a big enough case for a quick RfC. Heavy contributor or not, no one appreciates someone with that much attitude. Rarelibra 18:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Turkish cuisine stubs

Hi, I see you added the Turkish cuisine stub label to baklava and burek. Though I'm sure one could write a book-length treatise on either of these subjects, it seems to me that the current state of the articles is much further along than "stubs". The baklava article, in particular, has good source references. Of course, it would be great to have your contributions towards improving and extending these articles. --Macrakis 18:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:

Merhaba for the notice i don't like that license, not sure if we can only use it on one article or otherwise stated thanks. Nareklm 20:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Turkish cuisine stub

Hi - a stub template or category which you created has been nominated for deletion or renaming at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion. The stub type, which was not proposed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, does not meet the standard requirements for a stub type, either through being incorrectly named, ambiguously scoped, or through failure to meet standards relating to the current stub hierarchy or likely size, as explained at Wikipedia:Stub. Please feel free to make any comments at WP:SFD regarding this stub type, and in future, please consider proposing new stub types first! Grutness...wha? 02:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Treaty lausane

The information has the citation; where is the misinfo that you say?--OttomanReference 08:41, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

a stub is...

Read what a stub is before going on a stab-template spree.

Astar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.103.147.55 (talk) 14:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

The current (miserable) situation of Istanbul

Mustafa, the only image with a "controversial copyright" was istanbul_from_above.jpg (the image on top which showed the Sultanahmet Mosque, Haghia Sophia, etc. and was scanned from a poster). The other images are from my friends at WowTurkey.Com and have no copyright problems.

Here's my suggestion: Substitute the istanbul_from_above.jpg with an image of Maiden's Tower (etc.) while restoring the rest (taking into account the "letter editings" (the typed material) which have been added since the beginning of the "conflict".)

Currently, Istanbul looks horrible and I'm sure potential tourists who look at it will change their minds and opt for another destination.

This is a "national interest case" which should not be left into the hands of possessive/obsessive editors who think they "own" Istanbul (and don't let anyone else add/edit something), or editors belonging to Turkey's "friendly nations" (the usual suspects) who took the opportunity to add gecekondu images, etc.

Regards. DragutBarbarossa 02:10, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Reply

) Dunku olay neydi oyle? Resmen butun yemek sayfalarina saldirdi adam.. Valla delirmemek içten degil. Sana da kolay gelsin! Baristarim 12:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

=Çiçek Izgara

I see that the article for this restaurant, to which you contributed, is nominated for deletion. The article says it is a famous restaurant, and "Çiçek Izgara" gets over 2000 Google hits, but they are not in English so most of us cannot tell if they are reliable sources (like a newspaper, magazine, or television program). Please take a look and if you can find 3 or so references in such reliable sources, which have some detailed coverage of the restaurant, add them to the article and mention the fact at the AFD, or it looks like the article will get deleted for lack of sources to prove it is notaboe. Thanks. Inkpaduta 15:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Repeated stub-tagging

Claiming "absence of consensus" is hardly an excuse for repeatedly adding inappropriate stub tags, or indeed for repeated reversion in general. Several editors have asked you to stop: what attempts have you made to establish said consensus with them? If you really must revert, to do so with a comment-free "undo" is just adding fuel to the fire, as it's often seen as (more) discourteous (than a revert with an actual stated reason). I'm not suggesting it's wrong per se to add the template during the discussion; I'm saying that you've added to articles on which it is clearly and egregiously inappropriate: that is wrong, and is not "normal". On the whole you'd do better to wait until there's 60 articles that any reasonable person would agree are a) stubs, and b) primarily on Turkish cuisine; or else to argue that the template be kept ("upmerged") without the category until such time as that's the case. Alai 16:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Mrb

Sana da mrb.

Kızılsungur 17:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Auto hide

Thanks.Ugur Olgun 18:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Reply

) Most probably User:GreekWarrior... I still leave the welcome messages though. lol Baristarim 22:21, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Hayır, ben GreekWarrior değilim!--Noli turbare circulos meos 22:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Her Kim isen; Kuklamısın değilmisin göreceğiz.Must^TC 22:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

OttomanReference

Bu arkadaşın Atatürk'ü 1916-1917 yılları için Ermeni Soykırımı'ndan sorumlu hale getirmesi, Abdülhamid II'ye fena halde kafayı takmış olması ve İstanbul'u mahvetmek için elinden geleni yapmasından ötürü ben açıkçası pek de Türkiye dostu olmayan bir diaspora Ermenisi olduğunu düşünüyorum (yanlış anlamayın, benim en yakın arkadaşım bir Ermeni ile evli, Mıgırdıç ve Varjan adında iki yakın Ermeni dostum da var).

Bu adam resmen "Ottoman" rumuzuyla kendini Türk kılığına sokup Türkiye ile ilgili her konuyu dinamitlemeyi kendisine görev edinmiş, özellikle Ermeniler ile ilgili konuları.

Yani bir Truva Atı. DragutBarbarossa 18:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Harassment#Wikistalking

Whatever your reasons for doing it, cease and desist.--Noli turbare circulos meos 19:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

For what it's worth, all you're doing here under a misleading (= blatant lie; how will you answer to that on the Day of Judgment?!) edit summary is reinstating anon blanking of a paragraph and half a sentence? The remaining half a sentence doesn't make sense! It's becoming pretty obvious what you're doing (blind reverts).--Noli turbare circulos meos 19:31, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Mustafa Kemal.

Please, these are realities of the time. Command of XVI Corps was on Ataturk which was responsible from Bitlis and Mush. He fought against the enemy. If you do not believe citations, check the valilik web pages of these districts. They tell in detail how Mustafa Kemal captures these cities back. Guys, this is not Armenian propaganda. This is about war. If you censure the facts, how you gonna explain the realities? --OttomanReference 00:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Check the discussion at the talk page of User talk:DragutBarbarossa I'm trying to negotiate with this guy. He opened a war against me. He does not even read the articles. Think this way; if Ataturk did not fight with the Armenian Millitia; then who was he fighting against? The Van Resistance proves that there was an Armenian military activity. Ataturk was defending the front against an organized army. --OttomanReference 00:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Kalamar

Mustafa, please take a look at Wikipedia's policy on disambiguation pages. Disambiguation pages should give only the basic information necessary for the user to determine which page to consult in case of confusion. As a general rule, non-English words which are not used in English (not even in historical contexts) should not appear in disambiguation pages at all, but that rule is sometimes ignored (see Calamari), so I left the basic information on the Kalamar page. --Macrakis 18:48, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

WPTR small not working

Hi, I saw that you made mods to WPTR to handle small. Don't know whether you know this already, but I tried it out, without success, here. --Free smyrnan 19:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)