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Slike[edit]

Cestitke na izvrsnim slikama na stranici Zagreba. Konacno (ono prije je bila u najvecem dijelu katastrofa)!

Hi there. I saw you uploaded great number of pictures of Zagreb to Wikimedia Commons. That's very nice of you, but there's a problem. On the page where you uploaded the images, there's a big warning saying: "If you do not provide suitable license information, your file will have to be deleted without further notice. Thanks for your understanding." And none of your pictures has any license information. That means that in a few days time, somebody will search through your pictures, find out none of them has any licence info and delete them. That's the way things work on Wikimedia Commons. So, what you have to do now is: contact people who made this photos and ask them whether they agree to publish their photos under some free licence like public domain, GFDL or CC. If they agree, you have to quote the permission, and put one of copyright tags on it. You can see an example here: a picture taken by my friend and uploaded by me. If you cannot reach the author, or even do not know who the author is, you will have to remove the pictures (or someone will remove them for you and you'll turn out to be a bad guy). Pictures like this one are totally unacceptable for Wikimedia Commons as the picture clearly states it is copyrighted, and copyrighted material just can't be uploaded to Commons.
So, it would be realy nice if you provided licensing information for the pictures you uploaded. If you cannot provide licensing info, then I suggest you remove the pictures from the articles as it will look real bad when they get deleted, and are still included in articles... :-\ Sorry for the bad news, but I thought it'd be better if I warn you so you know why the pictures were deleted when they get deleted... --Dijxtra 15:25, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What to do[edit]

Thak you for the heads up. I didn t think it s that serious. :-(

Can you please tell me how to do this licensing? I can t find it anywhere.

What type of license do I use? Some pictures are taken from friends,some are from unknown sources,some from photocotests.

I spent to much time on this just to be deleted. Can you do something from your side? Anything?

Please help!

I guess it'll be easier to explain in Croatian. Dakle, prvo mi kazi od kud si nabavio te slike? Jer, ako si ih samo poskidao s weba, to nece ici. Naime na Wikipediji jako paze na autorska prava, da ih ne bi ko tuzio na sudu. Tako da se ne moze samo tako stavit sliku neku. Ako si neku od fotki napravio ti il netko kog znas, onda se to da rijesit. Ako si skidao sa sajta od turisticke zajednice, e onda treba vidjet sta pise na njihovom sajtu, dal je sve pod kopirajtom. Zato je najjednostavnije da mi kazes gdje si nabavio slike pa da vidimo sto cemo s tim... BTW, kad pises neki komentar na talk page, jako dobro bi bilo da se potpises. To napravis tako da samo napises 4 tilde: ~~~~. Kad kliknes dolje na "Save page", to ce se pretvoriti u ovo: Dijxtra 22:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A,jooooj. Puno ih je. Neke su sa foto natjecanja (HRphotocontest.com i Index.hr),neke su od prijatelja.
Ti meni reci što da radim sa onima od prijatelja i od ljudi sa contesta. Za ove druge ću vidjeti kako stoje sa copyrightom. Mate Balota 17:37, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
E, za one koje su od prijatelja, pitaj ih jel mozes objavit fotke na netu, kad ti kazu da mozes, onda na svaku fotku stavi nesto tipa "Picture taken by Ime Prezime, permission to publish granted." i onda jos dodaj tag koji oznacava pod kojom licencom je fotka objavljena. Sad, kako odabrati licencu pod kojom ces objaviti sliku je duga prica, no ja preporucam Creative Commons Licence (ja svoje slike i slike svojih prijatelja objavljujem pod tom licencom, licenca zahtjeva od onoga tko koristi tu sliku da napise ko je napravio sliku) ili jednostavno Public Domain (sto znaci da bilo tko moze radit sa slikom sta oce). Ako odaberes Public Domain, uz informacije o slici samo dodaj {{PD-self}}, a ako odlucis objaviti u CC licenci, dodaj npr. {{cc-by-sa-2.5}} (cc licenci ima vise vrsta). Evo, ovdje je primjer kako bi trebale izgledati informacije o dobro objavljenoj slici: fotka koju je napravio moj frend.
E, kad rijesimo stvari sa slikama od frendova, onda idemo na problem contesta (malo po malo, stvari sa licenciranjem su dosta komplicirane i mukotrpne, al skuzit ces na kraju).
Jos jedna stvar. Kad odgovaras, uvuci malo tekst. To ces postici tako da stavis dvotocke na pocetak reda (ispred tvog teksta sam dodao ":: ", tako da ti je sad tekst lijepo uvucen, vidis?) --Dijxtra 18:12, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Thanks! Pod public sam stavio sve one slike koje sam skupio sa "žnj" siteova, bez ikakvih ograničenja (slike HOTO Towera su uzete sa službenog sitea, koji se u međuvremenu ugasio). Ostale slike sam označio sa CC copyrightom. Sad mi još treba sredit contest slike.
Hmmmmmmm... gle. Mislim, ja ti necu pravit probleme, ja se ne bavim sa brisanjem slika koje imaju problema sa copyrightom, no stvar je u tome sto ne mozes jednostavno skinut sliku s nekog sajta i proglasit je za public domain. To tak nejde. Naime, recimo, pogledaj http://www.iskon.hr/. Na dnu fino pise "(c) 2000-2005 Iskon Internet Sva prava pridržana." I sta stvar sa http://www.index.hr/. I tako na vecini sajtova. Sad ti trebas otic na svaki sajt sa kojeg si skinuo slike i poslat mail webmasteru i pitat ga jel mozes objavit te slike u Public Domain. Na sta ce ti on rec da ne budes lud i da naravno da nece :-) Dakle, pouka je: fotke koje si skinuo sa nekog web sajta tesko da mogu biti public domain ili bilo koja licenca prihvatljiva na Wikimedia Commons i trebao bi ih obrisati. Mozes ostaviti slike samo od ljudi koji su ti dozvolili da slike stavis tamo. Mislim, na primjer, na ovu sliku si napisao da si dobio dozvolu od turisticne zajednice da objavis sliku. Ako je to zbilja istina, zasto se onda na fotki vidi oznaka Copyrighta? :-) Vjeruj mi, puno jednostavnije je pricekat proljece, uzet fotoaparat i uslikat sam istu takvu sliku nego se zajebavat sa copyrightom, slat mailove i molit. Ja cekam da dodje proljece i da prestane bit ovako shugavo vrijeme pa cu napravit par fotki Zagreba...
To su:Sve slike Cibone, Tomislavov trg, Sava u sumrak, Sveučilišna knjižnica i ona zračna slika Plesa. Ta zračna je sa Planepictures.com
Sa kojeg contesta su to slike? Ima li taj contest neki site? --Dijxtra 13:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Pa,dobro kako da ja njima onda dokažem da imam dopuštenje, čak i ako ga dobijem? Neću valjda citirati njihove mailove.
Hoces :-) Vidi Image:Flag_of_Zagreb.gif. Mail sa dozvolom se nalazi ovdje: [1]
I onako sve mogu izmislit! Jooooj kolika frka oko par običnih slika!
Je, slazem se. No, nije problem u Wikipediji nego u glupim amerikancima. Kao sto znas i vidis na televiziji, tamo ce te za svaki kurac tuzit. I onda se Wikipedija zeli zastit. Recimo neki moron napravi jako lijepu fotku (nije rijetka pojava). I onda ti tu sliku stavis na Wikipediju bez dozvole. Onda to on skuzi i zato jer je moron, on tuzi Wikipediju i Wikipedija mu mora platit para za krsenje autorskih prava. I upravo zbog takvih idiota koji bi mogli tuzit Wikipediju je toliko komplicirano to oko slika... Kuzis?
Tučem se oko slike glupog trga, a Mona Lisu može svatko koristiti! :-(
Ajd, ajd, nemoj se zivicirat. Ako ces se previse zivcirat, neces daleko dogurat na Wikipediji. Kratko si tu pa nisi imao prilike vidjet kakvih tu sve budala ima. Ako se nazivciras na svaku glupost na Wikipediji, vrlo brzo ces zavrsit u Vrapcu ;-)
Slike su sa Hrphotocontest.com i Index.hr Mate Balota 19:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Mda, na dnu pise "© 2003-2005 HRphotocontest | Cjelokupni sadržaj HRphotocontesta podliježe autorskom pravu. Zabranjeno je korištenje sadržaja bez pismene dozvole od strane HRphotocontesta.". Tak da jebiga, ako netko s contesta vidi da si ti to stavio na Commonse, moglo bi bit sranja. Zato su ja sad njima napisat mail, rec da su im fotke jako dobre i da jel ih mozemo mi koristiti na Wikipediji. Mozda nam dopuste. Javim ti kako je proslo. --Dijxtra 20:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Thanks! Btw. pisao sam Zg tourist boardu i dali su mi dopuštenje! :-) P.S. Vidim da ideš u FER. Ja sam maturant u ETŠ Split! ;-) Selim u Zg na ljeto. No, vjerojatno neću u FER, nego u FSB --> zrakoplovstvo. Lud sam za avionima! :-) Mate Balota 11:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jos o slikama[edit]

Daklem, javio mi se vlasnik HRphotocontesta i rekao da je spreman suradjivati sa Wikipedijom i da ce nam dati autorska prava na slike. Hajde, ako ti ne bi bio problem, mi popishi ovdje sve slike sa HRpca koje si stavio na Commonse, moze? Pa cu ja s njim dogovoriti detalje.

Druga stvar, pogledao sam malo calanak o mamutici koji si napisao. OK clanak, samo fali jedna stvar: kategorije. Kad napises novi clanak, moras ga staviti u neku kategoriju da bi ga ljudi mogli pronaci. Kako znati u koje kategorije staviti clanak? Pa, pogledas malo slicne clanke. Recimo Dražen Petrović Basketball Hall. I onda skuzis da bi clanak Mamut trebao ici u kategorije Category:Zagreb i Category:Buildings and structures in Croatia. Kako staviti clanak u kategoriju? Tako da na kraj clanka stavis ovo:

[[Category:Zagreb]]
[[Category:Buildings and structures in Croatia]]

Ajd sad to napravi za domacu zadacu ;-) BTW, sretno sa prijemnim... --Dijxtra 09:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Skužih! Hvala! Što bi ja bez tebe,ha,ha! :-) Sa Hrphotocontesta je samo Cibona_1.jpg! Sa Indexa su:Cibona_2.jpg, Sava_1.jpg, Tomislavov_2.jpg i NSB_1.jpg. P.S. Hvala na željama za prijamni. ;-) Mate Balota 21:04, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zagreb tablica[edit]

Imam problem sa implementiranjem tablice u tekst. Tekst nikako da mi "upadne" između nje i "Contents" tablice. Molim pomoć! Ako ju itko može pravilno ubaciti u članak (a i malo urediti i dodati pokoju informaciju), bio bih mi jako zahvalan! ;) Mate Balota 21:14, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Evo tablice:

General Information
State Capital: Zagreb
Vehicle Registration: ZG
Area code: 01
Homepage: [2]
Coat of Arms
Map: Zagreb in Croatia
Map of Croatia (Zagreb)
Politics
Mayor and governor Milan Bandic (SDP)
Governing Party SDP
Population
Population: 973.667 (2005)
1.200.000 metro area
Population density: 1.521/km²
Geography
Area: 640 km²
Location: 45°48' - 45°49' n. Br.
15°57' - 15°58' ö. L.
Dimensions: North-South: 14.8 km
East-West: 27.1 km
Highest Point: 1030 m
(Sljeme)
Lowest Point: 120 m
Map: Zagreb and its Districts
Districts of Zagreb
Hm, ovime neces nista postic, tvoj talk page citam vjerovatno samo ja. Pitaj na talk pageu od clanka o Zagrebu: [3]. BTW, kopirao si tablicu od nekud ili si napravio svoju? Jer, na Wikipediji imamo obicaj kopirat tablice jedni od drugih, tako da izgledaju isto, to je zgodno za enciklopidiju, da tablice izgledaju isto... --Dijxtra 14:56, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Da, kopirao sam bečku tablicu. Sad ću stavit ovo u Zagreb ;-) Mate Balota 21:14, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zagreb Airport Gallery[edit]

Hello Mate Balota. I see that you reverted my edits in the Zagreb Airport Gallery. I deemed the pictures to be irrelevant because both RJ and CA do not have scheduled flights to ZAG. If I remember correctly, the reason the CA 747 was in ZAG was because there was a Chinese delegation that arrived. I think that putting those two pictures gives the impression that both airlines have scheduled flights to ZAG. Why did you put them back? Elektrik Blue 82 01:51, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it s just nice to see some widebodys on the Pleso apron, that s all. You won t get a wrong impression beacuse of the airlines list above! I noted the nature of these flights. Please leave them be. ;-) Mate Balota 13:58, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure the RJ is owned by a Saudi prince? If I remember correctly, their planes are painted in the SV livery. Hence, I changed the notation from Saudi to Jordanian. Elektrik Blue 82 16:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me. ;) Mate Balota 17:07, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name of the Homeland war[edit]

You might want to join the discussion here: [4]. I'm sorry for disturbance if you are not interested the discussion. --Dijxtra 12:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, nova riva....[edit]

Kako moš stavit ovu novu sliku na Split... Ma uopće ne prikazuje grad u pravom mediteranskom svitlu. Mislin neću je micat jer je ispravna, ali, gadi mi se gledat ono, pari hibrid klizališta i autoceste! Kad bi maka bia bi ti zahvalan. Propa je grad od vlaja na vlasti... DIREKTOR 15:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

>>>> Ajme meni....pa ne razmišljaju svi kao ti! Nekima (kao meni) se sviđa nova Riva...i želio ti to ili ne, ona je jedno od najvažnijih mijesta u gradu. Članak Wikipedije bez Rive nema smisla, a ta fotka ju prikazuje baš onavom kakva je. Mate Balota 12:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC) ;)[reply]


Ma dobro, je ispravna, pa je neću micat, al eto... Ka da ni dosta šta je moran gledat svaki drugi dan... ;) DIREKTOR 13:07, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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File permission problem with File:Pleso 5.jpg[edit]

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